Conference rdvax::grateful

	for years and years and years, I've enjoyed freeform movement 
	in connection with music ;-) ...but I have never liked the kind
	of GeneKelly dancing because I don't have the skill to just let
	go and enjoy.  That's what I'm really interested in when I'm
	moving - letting go and letting the music take my body with it.

	If I go to a wedding or one of those kinds of events where there's
	dancing, I may be among the first on the floor uninhibitably
	flailing around.  But as soon as there's a slow dance where 
	everyone couples up or an organized linedance where you have to
	do certain steps - I'm outta there.  Too structured.

	the Dead's music is not the only kind that I feel the need to
	move to when I hear it, but it definately is the kind I feel
	most "at home" with.  What came first - the atmosphere where
	everyone was dancing any which way they chose, and I joined in?
	or the music spoke to my soul and rose me outta my seat and I
	couldn't help myself but move to it?!?  I danced at concerts
	before I ever saw the Dead, so I don't think it was because I
	felt more at ease at a Dead show.  But it does feel fun to have
	everyone around you moving too.

	I'm in search of the Space music that felt so "in tune" with my
	body.  With all the different styles that they played, all the fun
	music to dance to, it was the point in a song/jam where they changed
	the beat or whatever it was that sent it off into the spacy, floaty
	dimension that felt the best to me.  There is nothing like experiencing
	it live either.  I can sway around my livingroom, but it's not the
	same.  I need to find a Space band.  It's almost like food or water
	or oxygen to me - I don't need it as often - but I do need it.

	Debess

	you missed Note 56.0  ;-)  ;-)
	
	i love to dance. if there's music playing, i'm moving!!
	i could NEVER understand how anyone (especially people at a Dead
	sho) could hear the music and NOT dance.
	
	dance is as old a music itself and has had a place in many, if
	not all, cultures. in some, it's as much a part of their religion
	as it is a part of their social scene. Native Americans use
	dance as part of sacred ceremonies as well as a social event. In
	some cultures dance and music (drum beat) are used to invoke
	altered states of consciousness.
	
	"See that girl, barefootin' along,
        Whistlin' and singin', she's a carryin' on.
        There's laughing in her eyes, dancing in her feet,
        She's a neon-light diamond, she can live on the street."

    I used to hate to dance.  Now I love it.  Something to do
    with releasing inhibitions.

    A friend of mine goes to a thing called "Dance Fridays".  
    It's free-form improvisational stuff.  I can get more info
    if anyone's interested.

    I can actually do a decent swing dance, or I used to anyway.
    I'm out of practice.  Swing dancing can be a real blast and
    a good way to meet people.

    Dancing is what it's all about.  

    Tom

    
    In my high school days, I would go to Dead/Max Creek/Talking Heads 
    shows and boogie my ass off.  My friends and I were definitely humidity
    rats....the faster the music, the more rapid the dance, the more you
    sweat, the better the time!! :-)
    
    Now I stand more in place and "bop".

	Deadheads have a reputation for being dancers - and not always
	a welcome one either.  I've seen, in discussions about Dylan
	shows and very recently in reference to a David Grisman bash,
	some angry accusations about Deadheads or deadhead-wannabe's
	"bothering" people that want to sit and listen and watch the
	musicians that they are paying to see.

	accusations can go back and forth - dancing shows that you are
	truly enjoying the music...no, listening attentively shows that
	you are.  

	not being a musician, I imagine they must enjoy seeing that their 
	music is moving people to respond in dance...no?

	guess it depends on the type of music and the type of place and
	the type of crowd.  Most times, no matter what type of music or
	what type of place or who else is there - if the music makes me
	want to move, I do. ;-)

	When I saw Dylan in Worcester in December, I was aware of the 
	people around me choosing to sit through the show.  I decided to 
	dance in the aisle at the side, rather than at my seat.  Electric 
	rock'n'roll is meant to be danced to, imho.  (Didn't want to bum 
	the people in back of me, though.)

	Debess

    
    .."dancin, dancin, dancin in the streets!"
    
    I LOVE to dance wildly! Patty and I dance "together" at Shakedown gigs
    and in the past at dead shows, but she has often told me there's a
    "time" when I'm "gone"...when I'm one with the music, time, space and
    myself. I care not for what's around me then, and she knows it. She
    just waits for me to "come back" after the jam. I'm a little more
    subdude when at other kinds of gigs, but if the music  hits me just
    right, I go to la la land quite easily. I've had many peopel come up to
    me on the street that I don't know and say "Hey, i saw U dancin in
    Vegas," or "at the last Shakedown gig" or "yer the one with the smile
    painted on yer face when you dance". Once, when Little Feat first
    came back, the whole group of roadies were out laughin and watchin me 
    flail about like a mental institution escapee...I didn't even know it, 
    people told me afterwards. SOmetimes, and I don't prefer it this way, I
    find myself without Patty at a Shakedown gig and find myself dancin
    with a bunch of my guy friends....something many peopel wouldn't admit
    to if they were/are not deadheads cause of the "gay" stigma attached to
    it...screw 'em. I've had some GRATEFREAKINTIMES dancin with Glenn
    Ingalls, Divide Dave and Tom Lawlor at Shakedown gigs. 
    I sometimes at these kinds of gigs also dance by "myself", even though
    I'm standing next to 50 people..again, ,lost in the beat.
    The boyz in Shakedown street can attest to this. 
    There have been times at Tumbledown where I'm standing in the middle 
    of the room, flailing, (maybe i don't dance, maybe flailing is a better 
    term??) to a tape and when done, open my eyes and see some of my 
    non-deadhead friends looking at me rather wierd...but they know
    me....I've heard one say to a head friend "look out, he's out here now" 
    and my head friend responds "U should see him at shows.." And at 
    shows like dave matthews, I like to "Step back" and watch Patty dance. 
    She can get into it as well as I can when the "muse" hits her, believe 
    me. and I love seeing her "get lost" to the beat. 
    
    Jay, I've read some of yer old notes in the Native American notes file
    and know U relate to the drum beat and rythem. I can shake it to a drum
    circle as well as I can to a song, too....lost in the beat. But it's
    not really lost. It's more "out there where U should be". 
    
    I also like watching people dance, and catching their eye and giving
    each other that "all knowing" look..even peopel I don't know, cause
    there's this "understanding" that we all get...if yer lost in the beat. 
    
    Now, what I don't like, and I hesitate to even mention something
    negative in such a GRATE, positive note (THANKS TIM!!!) but those
    little girls that just can't dance or trwill without a cig in there
    hand. Patty wears alot of thoses hippie dresses that turn into torches
    when a flame touches them, so she's quite aware of that too. I like
    getting just close enough to the cig to burn me slightly, then yelling
    "OUCH!,  &^#$@!!" and looking at the twriller. She usually apologizes
    and puts out the butt, at least till the next song. and those guys that
    can't dance without a beer in their hand. They don't respond so nicely
    when I bump them and their beer goes all over them and me. but we are,
    for the most part, all deadheads and they usually just go and buy another
    beer.   
    
    can u tell i like to dance!!!!!
    
    
    "....and everybody's dancin!!..."
    
    
    
    rfb

	what Deane said about energy and aging...I never gave a thought
	to no more Grateful Dead.  But I -did- think, when I was at shows
	sometimes, that I could easily imagine myself dancing to the Dead 
	as I got old.  It made me smile to think of it.

	They had a way of pacing shows so that you had a chance to
	"catch your breath".  The rhythm of some of the songs allowed for 
	slow swaying, which fit quite well, and is quite a bit easier to do
	than an all out boogie.  I loved to look around to see people around
	me dancing to different beats or rhythms, but they all fit together
	because the Dead themselves were doing that as well.  It all fit.
	No matter how fast or how slow, it all fit...

	Debess
	

    I stopped myself from putting anything in about dancers vs non-dancers
    as this is a positive note and didn't want to de-rail it. at "non dead
    shows" I've been threatened more times than I care to think of.
    I try to respect their wishes, but some one said ya can't please
    everyone, so ya gotta please yerself. 
    rfb_dancin fool

>    I'm a little more
>    subdude when at other kinds of gigs
	^-----grate play on words, intentional or not ;-)

    glad ya caught that, debess....one of my favorite misspelled play on
    words....
    
    
    rfb_who loves to write but hates to spell

Yeah, I typically get a hostile reaction once in every four or five
Slipknot gigs.  Usually either a foul mix of alcohol and testosterone,
or simple territorialism - I'm dancing wildly and some clown walks up
and stands right next to me, and gets pissed off because I keep bumping
into him.  Hey, man, if you don't like it, stand somewhere else - or at
least DANCE!    I sometimes complicate it because I often dance rather
wildly, with my eyes closed...but I've gotten better at that.  There
have also been the occasional instances of some guy getting pissed off
because his girlfriend is grinning at me and I smiled back on the last
spin 'round - kind of a combination of the testosterone toxicity and
territorialism things...

I didn't start until I was almost 38 years old - I'm 41 now, and I feel
younger than when I started.  My very first dance partner was my
daughter Jessie, now 15, when I took her to a Dead show in Boston -
9/23/93, I think.  We had a blast.

I usually don't mind the audience or the occasional snickers from the
clueless (imho).  I'm amused by the half-hour-before-last-call guys
that show up on the dance floor trying to pick up the women I've
dancing with all evening...they're invariably plastered, and the women,
like me, have been dancing all night and really rather sober,
comparatively.  It's comical to watch.  

I've had a few episodes of people, usually no-necked, no-foreheaded
guys in plaid shirts and "Cat" baseball caps, call me a faggot or
such...I usually just laugh - if they new my recent bad luck with
women, they probably would too! ;-).  I do recall, a couple years ago,
we were dancing at a Slipknot gig at Bowlers in Worcester and some
drunk was pissed off about everything - he was howling at the band and
the dancers and such.  He got one look at me, yelled something
existential (:-)), and being in a somewhat giddy and precocious mood, I
blew him a kiss.

It took three of his friends to hold him back as he tried to crawl over
the table to get at me...boy was he mad...but they convinced him to
just leave instead. ;-)

Luckily, I've never had anything really blow up - but there have been
many times when I've had to deal with drunk guys posturing as if they'd
kick my ass.  It amazes me how readily they back down when their bluff
is called...just look at them like, "Grow the f&ck up"  Lately I've
been working on the effect that the energy of  dancing has on my
attitude, to try to reduce the incidence of confrontation.  It really
screws up the mood for me, and I must have some culpability in it or it
wouldn't happen so often.  I'm still working on that...

Incidentally, one of my very favorite evenings of dancing was at Geoff
and Robyn's wedding reception!  What fun!  A huge open dance floor,
Slipknot playing all night and a great partner to dance with (Geoff's
sister - Jen?).  That was great fun!

More on the positive side soon...

tim

>blew him a kiss.

I'd pay money to see that!  hahahaha!

	ahhh, dancing in bars with drunken guys around...

	well, here's another perspective on that.  I'm there to dance.
	Guntis is there to drink (until he gets loose enough to dance ;)
	some guys are on the dancefloor to dance, some to pick up women,
	some to do both.

	it's kinda weird for me to realize that a guy I don't know is
	trying to dance with me.  And, it really is pretty obvious (I think)
	if it's a dance-dance or a pick-up-dance.  I don't know how to react.  
	I'm not there to pick up/be picked up...maybe this guy really is just 
	being friendly...but I don't want him to get the wrong idea.  It's
	awkward.  

	When you're dancing like you're dancing with noone else, it's
	kinda easy to twirl around and slip away...so, I continue to dance, 
	and try to pretend that I don't know that this person next to me 
	thinks he's dancing with me, or I twirl around and try to find 
	someone I know to dance with.  Weirdness.

	Sometimes, no matter how I react, the guy is just too out of it
	to get the hint.  Sometimes even when Guntis is right next to me
	glaring at him ;-)

	Debess	

    re: last couple...
    
    that's why I love Shakedown Street....none of that macho shit and pick
    up shit....99.9% there are true deadheads. Last time I bumped some guy
    and his whole beer went flyin, all over me, him and about 3 other
    people. He wasn't happy, but all he did was walk away...I'm pretty damn
    intimadating!!! (ya, right!!) 
    
    Now Tim is another story..damn
    troublemakeer that he is!!  %^) 
    
    Guys have tried often to pick Patty up
    at Shake gigs, but we are at everyone locally so they now associate us
    as being one...and they were usually way to f*cjked up to be trying to
    pick ANYONE up, so Patty usually just laughs. I've had some chicks do
    the same to me and they were much more obvious than the guys trying to
    pick Patty up (Hello, can You see me standing here?? says Patty) 
    
    I do rememebr a huge black guy that
    asked me to move (he sitting, me flailing) out of front of him several
    times at Black Uhuru, and I did, but kept forgetting and would
    naturally move back into that "space". He finally gave up.....
    
    I almost lost some teeth at a Tom pety show several years ago...and
    I've seen Divide Dave harass security at a Little Feat show after being
    asked to not dance in the walkway (dave danced madly behind him,
    following said security dude as he walked away, we all thought he was
    gonna be another statistic)
    
    I go outa my way to *NOT* attend local events were I know dancin would
    be frowned upon.
    
    BUT I DO LOVE TO DANCE!!!!!!
    
    rfb_summers here and the time is right

      >I've seen Divide Dave harass security at a Little Feat show after
    being asked to not dance in the walkway (dave danced madly behind
    him,following said security dude as he walked away, we all thought he
    was gonna be another statistic)
    
    Who me, I would almost never do anything like that!!
    
    The guy was a real pain, walking around with a big frown on his face
    trying to look like a bad ass, and doing it. I just told him to lighten
    up and have a good time, I mean he's at a Little Feat show and being
    paid for it. ANd all I was doing was a little jig..... 
    
     Also I was not hurting anyone, even myself..
    
      . .
       ,
    \_____/
    Divide Dave who had a good time at the Feat show....

	(hey DiviDave - how was your bike trip?!?)

	thinking about security people - I'll have to say that it was
	always smile-producing to see one of them get carried away with the
	joyosity and end up dancing along with us to the Dead...

	Debess

    it aslo helps to keep people away from you when U dance like a mad man,
    kinda like talking to yerself on the bus....people are just naturally
    more inclined to stay away!!  %^)
    
    a crazed look in yer eyes and a sh*teatin grin on yer face helps too...
    of course this also helps to attract certain types.....%^)
    
    I remember once in Phoenix at Desert Sky when I needed "a little help
    form my friends" IE; needed to be carried out to fresh air...a cop kept
    asking if we (I) needed any help, which we respectfuly declined (I kept
    laughing at him) then my ears caught the opening notes of China
    Cat...and miraCLUElessly, I was healed!!! as i danced away, Patty said
    she looked at the cop and he just shook his head....the power of music and
    the healing of dance!!!!
    
    
    rfb

    
    god, I could write in this note all day (come to think of it, I have!!)
    
    I can remember being packed in like sardines at the back of Sam Boyd
    Silver Bowl in Vegas, *EVERYONE!* was up and dancin, shoulder to
    shoulder, face to face, smile to smile! The smell of hot,sweaty bodies
    mixed with sage and petchuly never smelled so good to me in my life! 
    When "strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hand" came
    around I turned to those behind me, screamed the lyrics and grabbed as
    many hands as I could. Scared the sh*t outa some peopel at first until
    they realized I was mostly harmless, then their whole attitude towards
    our group changed to embrace us into their groups (we are pretty weird
    sometimes)...sometimes without a
    single word being spoken...at the end of that day some woman who had
    been behind us for two days came up to me, smiled, never said a word,
    hugged me and walked away, again, she never said anything. 
    
    rfb_just as long as *I* am there

    I'm going home now and slap on a tape.....gotta do some living room 
    dancin after reading and writing here all day.....
    
    OH! I FORGOT! TODAY IS PATTY'S BIRTHDAY! wish there was someplace to do
    some dancin tonite...
    rfb

    
    >OH! I FORGOT! TODAY IS PATTY'S BIRTHDAY! wish there was someplace
    >to do some dancin tonite...
    
    rfb....There's got to be plety o' places for dancing around 
    the house I'm sure!  Just sit back and let the testosterone 
    be the guide. ;-)
    
    Happy B'day to Patty.
                        

    
    Hey rfb,
      Tell Patty hippy birthday from the Nelson's
    
    	Love

	i was at a jethro tull concert one time and anderson actually
	asked people to 'sit down and enjoy the show'.  :-/
	
	s'alright tho, he didn't do a dance-type show n e way ;-)
	
	took my buddy to his first dead show 10/3/94. we had floor seats,
	row 19?? but, it was soooo crowded i talked him into leaving the
	floor for the second set and cruise around. we cruised around
	during box of rain and ended up behind the stage, up in the
	balcony for shakedown street. plenty of dancin room! steve seemed
	a little reluctant at first, but was soon dancin up a storm. to
	him, dancin was a couples thing. he'd never thought of dancin by
	yourself, just for the sake of dancing. after shakedown, we
	danced our wasy around the balconey, including across the back
	where it's open to the stage. it was real crowded (it always is
	there) and he asked 'how we gonna get through there?' and i said
	'we're gonna dance our way through!!"  ;-)

    
    RE:TRIP
    
    
     The trip was a pretty good, bike in Daytona was a little different
    from what I'm used too. I'm used to going to Sturgis or Re River where
    everhthing is in a couple block area then you take of and ride around
    and see the local country, in Daytona it's spread out all over town so
    we didn't get to see nad do all that we wanted. The start of the week
    was Grate the weather was perfect for riding and the sights at the
    beach were enough to distract yoe. But the weather turned to sh*t in
    the middle of the week one day its 91 next day its 52 next day its 32
    for the highs then the rain starts and it rained for like 4 days so the
    riding was over. so we packed up and headed up to Jacksonville and
    visited family some of whom I havn't seen in 7 years, so that was cool.
     Took Julie down to St. Augustine and went through the old fort and
    part of the old town, but the cold and rain held that back also, we
    also went to the Kennedy space center while down in south Fla. and that
    was a lot of fun..... 
    Back to north Fla., hen the storm broke Julie and I took off and went
    shell hunting, found a bunch of neat shells, even found enught
    conch(spl) shells that we shared some with rfb and patty when we got
    home, found a lot ot star fish and hermit crabs living in some conch
    shells which we threw back in the water, Julie even went so far as to
    return jelly fish(used a stick)....
    
    All in all even with the bad weather and all the driving it was a good
    time. I created more fishing time for by turning Julie on to the joys
    of cat fish, so now I have to do more fishing(oh darn).
    
    
    Divide Dave
    
    P.S. 
    During the strom in FLA. they lost like a hundred feeft off one of the
    fishing piers in Flager Beach, Flager is between St.Augustine and
    Daytona...
    
     

    
    
    Dancing sets my spirit free..
    
    Something about dancing to dead tunes just makes me smile,
    smile, smile !
    
    Also I can relate to the dancing = mating ritual mix up for
    some folks.  I've been asked if I don't like guys before 'cause
    I prefer to dance alone.. 
    
    Thanks for all the reading material here for those who've written
    more ..
    
    Cath
     

>I've been asked if I don't like guys before 'cause
>I prefer to dance alone.. 
    
....and I've been asked if I DO like guys for the same reason.

Go figure.

tim

    well tim, U and SLoan are pretty weird! %^) Kathy...i had a blast
    dancin with you and Lindsey at the slipouta gig last Sept. remember? 
    In fact, I just found some pics that Patty took of that gig that show
    me and Lindsey dancin...
    
    Is that question (are U gay) a common thread from the no-neckers back 
    east in bars? 
    and at Slipknot gigs, etc. aren't the majority of the people there true 
    heads? I just find it odd that in liberal Mass, that question gets
    asked and here in nazi-colorado spgs, heads don't seem to be concerned
    with that.....?????? now I'm sure the chaparones at the Focus on the 
    Family dances ask U that, but they don't play the dead either, i'm sure. 
    
    
    rfb
    
    

>I just found some pics that Patty took of that gig that show me and
>Lindsey dancin...

	i was just lookin at some picts i took at mnelson's house that
	weekend. got 1 of you and patty and fog and dc hangin' out back
	of the nelson's house drinkin beers :-) you're the one with the
	grey hair  ;-)

>Is that question (are U gay) a common thread from the
>no-neckers back east in bars? 

Nah, it's not that common...only a couple or three
times in three years for me...much more common to get
into turf wars (real estate or otherwise).

Slipknot gigs tend to be in crowded, somewhat dingy
bars like the Linwood, with a college-aged crowd that
doesn't know how to hold their liquor very well.  Just
dumb kids on booze, really.

When you comin' back east again?  I missed your visit
in September due to a business trip outta the
country...

tim

	any of you people "spinners"?

	these types of dancers have always intrigued me - like what's
	it all about?  why?  I'll twirl once or twice, but that's it!
	I get too dizzy!

	and what about just plain ol' hall dancers?  like, I know there's
	more room and all out there, but, but...as soon as the music
	started, if I was out in the hall, Watch Out! - make way for me
	to get back into the space where I can FEEl the music coming in
	to my pores...ya know what I mean?

	but I still am interested, if any of you were into this, why?

	Debess

    tim-
    we may dance (in keeping with the note thread) our way back east next
    fall sometime. Patty and I liked Westerly Town Beach alot!! But it may
    take me that long to recover from this calif. vacation we just came
    back from...Calif is EXPENSIVE (mostly to eat).
    
    here in COlo, at our Shake gigs, the older crowd seems to be the
    drinkers, the young collage age kids usually have something *better* to
    do...%^) so I guess that puts me in both catagories...
    
    
    rfb

    
    re: spinners....
    
    I find this to be pretty funny as well...  Although I 
    always enjoyed watching them!  :-)
    
    Christine and I tried spinning after a show in Nassau
    I believe - however we were both wrapped in the same
    blanket and yes, we wiped out!  Of course our state of
    mind had a lot to do with it and we just about laughed
    both heads off our 2-headed monster!  ;-)  :-)
    
    I loved dancing at shows - eyes closed wild flailling (sp?)
    type dancing!  I "came to" and opened my eyes once to find
    a guy looking down at me in horror while by arms flailed
    in his face.  I cracked up and told his he should have just
    thrown me a subtle elbow to get me outta his space!  ;-)
    
    Usually at slipknot shows I find dancing to be....  well, 
    kind of difficult.  As noted earlier, its usually so crowded
    and I've got so many "drunky man" (tm) stories it gets old
    real fast.  Some nights are much better than others as far
    as the crowd goes.  I find the Worcester shows to be a bit
    heavy on the "hard to dance in peace" scale.  
    
    I can't wait for SIS!
    
    MJ

    spinners....always liked 'em and Patty and I both loved to watch them
    (Patty took dance lessons and ballet for the first 18 years of her life
    and can relate to "how" they do it)..I couldn't be one, though. During
    mad jams I tend to disorient myself just from shaking my head wildly. %^)
    
    Once, in Denver, we were watching the hall-types during drums/space, this
    madly spinning guy, with his eyes closed, spins down the hallway
    towards us, spins to within an inch or two of my face, stops, opens his
    eyes to reveal crazed pupils, looks directly into my eyes, laughs,
    closes his eyes, and spins away.....Patty and I just looked at each
    other.."how did he even know we were standing here???"
    
    hall-types....i never got that either...we would often cruse the
    hallways during D/S just for a break, and check it out. But never could
    see staying in the hallway all the time...course no bouncers bother U
    there either. What I found funny, is the hallway spinners spin madly
    during a song and then during break become vegatables on the floor,
    barely coherent, non-communicative, etc. We stickerd several with NTTH
    stickers and they were not even aware of it.... space, the final
    frontier,,
    
    rfb
    

	I always tend to dance with my eyes closed.
	Whenever we were lucky enough to get seats really close to the
	stage, I would have to keep reminding myself over and over (and over!)
	to OPEN MY EYES - they're right there in front of you! - take 
	advantage of this!

	Debess

	whenever i took a first-timer to a gahdin show, it was requisite
	to view the spinners. whatta hoot. "how do they do that?" was
	always the question.
	
	one of the nice things about the 'old' gahdin was that upstairs
	the 'hallway' was inside. you could cruise all around the
	upstairs and almost never lose sight of the stage. 'course, that
	may have been the only good thing about the old gahdin  ;-)
	

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>	one of the nice things about the 'old' gahdin was that upstairs
>	the 'hallway' was inside. you could cruise all around the
>	upstairs and almost never lose sight of the stage. 'course, that
>	may have been the only good thing about the old gahdin  ;-)
	
Another "nice" thing about the garden was there was 80 years or so of 
grunge/grime/beer/soda/whatnot on the floor and during a hot (sweaty) 
dead show the floor would liven up a little bit (sorty of a slippery slime)
...made for easy dancing/grooving.

course I always had a pair of sneaks on....
if I was barefoot this would proably be a curse....

re:  rfb and his spinner observation...
I noticed that too!!  The part where you said "they spin and then fall
seemingly unconscious/unaware.

bobo

	bobo,
	
	there were parts of the upstairs that dipped as you came from the
	ends down the straightaways on the sides. these little valleys
	were always slippery. you'd slide down one side and sometimes
	almost cudn't make it up the other side  ;-)

    
    RE: well tim, U and SLoan are pretty weird.
    
    Weird indeed. I like dancing alone with my friends ;^).
    
    Sloan
    

    
    >Another "nice" thing about the garden was there was 80 years or so of 
    >grunge/grime/beer/soda/whatnot on the floor and during a hot (sweaty) 
    >dead show the floor would liven up a little bit (sorty of a slippery
    >slime)...made for easy dancing/grooving.
    
	Ahhh yes.  The floor of the Boston Garden....I'm sure there's 
    	more rare species there than in the rainforest.

	I LOVED the Garden!  I really did.  I knew that place so well.
	If I got sh*tty seats, I knew where to move to that noone would
	kick me out of.  I knew where the best bathrooms were (no lines).

	and speaking of Dancing - the balconies DANCED at the Garden!
	Sometimes they had their own rhythm that just could not be
	denied - even if you tried to dance to a different beat - you
	were just forced to dance to the balcony's beat.  It was
	scary!  And I loved it!

	Debess

	According to my wife I don't know how to dance...Ha!
	of course she means the wedding type dances etc...

	I think one of the things I really loved most about the shows
	was being able to dance any ole way and still fitting in. 
	I'm sort of Herky-jerky meself  8-)

        I was amazed at one of my 1st shows(New Haven in the 80's) how people
	were actually dancing in the halls... but you're missing the show???
	After that I loved to dance all around the arena dancing & smiling
	Feeling the music moving through/with you. As long as you could
	feel/hear the music it didn't matter if you could see the band.
	god how I miss that feeling.  Thanks Tim for rustling up some
	beautiful memories....  


	Toby 

    
    and speaking of dancing...
    
    as I was leaving yesterday I saw the local redtail hawk couple doin
    their love dance in the sky. The two circled each other,
    as they got closer to each other while doin their spiral, I could see them
    drop their legs and extend their claws as if to grasp each other in
    mid-air. I could hear muted hawk shrieks/crys as they neared each
    other, play fighting and dodging around, and then the larger female would 
    lash out at the male...."not yet, too early. not quite yet..." 
    I sat on the back of my car and watched them until they sored of into the
    distance. 
    
    RE:toby
    Patty *WON'T* dance wedding type dances with me...she says I'm perverted
    and that people don't want to see me doin that kind of stuff on a dance
    floor....
    
    rfb

hey rfb...

if i ever get married again i want you to come
dance at my wedding...  :^)

		da ve

	if unable to dance, you can crawl across it.   ;-)
	

    
    re:hey rfb...
    
    if i ever get married again i want you to come
    dance at my wedding...  :^)
    
                    da ve
    
    OK, as long as it's with yer new wife and  not U..%^)..
    and U buy the beer....
    
    rfb

	deal...  :^)

	though you'll probably have to be veeeeery patient... 
		:^) :^) :^)

			da ve

>        <<< Note 521.11 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY "Squash that bug! (tm)" >>>

>More on the positive side soon...


	well?

tim's not here...

		da ve

i'm not a huge dancer, that is for sure.
but, at deadshows, when the music is hot, i'll
get the legs moving, the head crankin', the arms
flailing, etc... all it takes is the right dose
of everything and i'm dancin' madly.

	re; dancin' madly
	
	i was reminded last week, by carol roberts, that my pers_name in
	mail is "Dancing Madly Backwards". I've used it in mail forever,
	tho I rarely see it cuz i rarely keep copies out outgoing mail.
	It's a song title by a group called Captain Beyond.  :-)
	

    ahhh yes...Captain Beyond...we often used them to go further in the old
    days...way before my DANCE! days
    
    Speaking of DANCE! All U Colorado-local read-onlies, don't forget this 
    Friday..GOOD FRIDAY!, SHAKEDOWN STREET AT LAURA BELLS! Dance yer
    troubles away! sort of a mini birthday-bash for Patty, I say sort of
    cause she doesn't want one and I do!
    
    rfb_ready to dance 

	how i wish i could find Captain Beyond on CD  :-/
	but, i'm always surprised to find someone who's even heard of
	them.   ;-)
	

    If you had a copy of the first Captain Beyond, with the original 3-D
    cover, it would fetch a nice price.  Me, I'm sufficiently breathless
    from all this dancin talk.
    

	i believe my vinyl of the first album has the 3-D picture on it.
	it's not *that* scratched either.

	'course, i did write on the back of the album:
			 "made loud to be played loud!!"
	
	;-)
	

    nothin left to live for..
    suffciently breathless 
    on this street that we live...
    
    
    I guess I could dance to that if i heard it again...%^)
    
    rfb