Conference rdvax::grateful

    
    
        I'll be there if school don't interfere with my plans. I booked
        the weekend at the StarDust. I've stayed there in the past and
        I like it.. it's on the same end of the strip as the brewery.
    
        I hope to get another lightning show during drums and space.
        That always seems to happen at the Vegas showz I've been to.
        ..and those mountains behind the stage.. It's too cool..
    
        Any guesses/rumors on the opening act for Summer tour? Wish it
        was Traffic again!
    
        Where's this mexican place that's been mentioned in here before?
    
       
        Cath

    rfb is the mexican_place guy... i'm the Brazilian_place guy (and we'll
    all end up at the Cow!)
    
    ...mikey

    
    
    I guess that makes me the other_west_shows_guy. Won't be goin' to 
    Lost Wages (wishin' I could tho), but will DEFINATELY be at all three
    in Oakland....Sunday is the Mardi Gras show!!!!!
    
    Hey rfb - I saw one of those walkers w/wheels that had a custom
    dancing bear paint job - need one old mon? ;-)
                         
    Kip
    

    I'll pass on the walker, Kip. Got mahself a motorized whellchair that
    does whellies!
    
    The Mexican Food Place is in the settlement of Green Valley, Kath. As you
    leave the strip and head towards the Silver Bowl you go thru Green
    Valley. There's a fine Jewish deli in the same area that's grate for
    breakfast (we usually take someting from there to the shows to eat
    afterwards) and Enzo's Pizza has been good in past years (but not as
    good 2 years ago). That's why we usually stop in Green Valley before
    heading back to the strip, cause there's good food places everywhere
    and as we all know the casino food SUCKS!
    
    Our crowd so far is Me and Patty, Hoot Gibson and Divide Dave, Glenn
    Ingalls most likely and last nite I invited Mike Bourdess's friend
    Petemoss (Dan) to go with us. May be a few more straglers sign up but
    alot of my friends prefer to drive...don't ask me why....
    
    I only remember one show where the lighting danced above the Bowl (it's
    mentenioned in Skeleton Key under "dead controlling the weather" or
    something.) I DO remember a torential downpour one show (opened with
    Cold rain and snow! )and a thunderstorm off in the distance after the 
    first day first year as well as a FULL!! moon that came up over the 
    parking lot after the last day first year...40,000 heads all howling at 
    the moon in the Nevada desert!!!
    
    we'll havta make plans to hook up as the time approaches...I wore
    dechead t's one year every day hoping someone would yell at me that I
    knew...met several Calif. ex-decheads (TFSO) but no eastcoast-heads.
    rfb

    Well count me as part of the tag team...i'll be hookin' up with friends 
    in Albupalque and headin' west...
    

    
    Any updates on the dates for Vegas. I don't see any May dates on
    the rumored summer schedule now ..?
    
    Cath

    Still a rumour...but tis next on da list...com'on 7's or 11's...
    
    Dugo_who's_lookin_forward_to_rollin_and_a_tumblin'

    so far, Vegas has always happened on the rumored dates, as I think it
    will this time (damn hotel told us $30 first nite and $60 the next two
    because "some weird group called the grateful dead is playin that
    weekend") that is unless jerry gets stung by a jelly fish again....
    
    rfb_ who will spend  more money in the parking lot than gambling

     RE 447.9
     > will this time (damn hotel told us $30 first nite and 
     >  $60 the next two)
    
     I was under the impression that the weekday rate was always 1/2
     the weekend rate even when the dead were not in town. 
      
     
    Cath

    don't know cath...just repeating what my wife was told over the
    phone..we will be checking the excalibur etc out again to see if
    there's a jack up thru them for the weekend or not....
    
    rfb

    There was for the Boulder Station but (I believe) only $10/nite... That
    is the SOP for Vega$, by the way... the weekends are when they see the
    most action so that's when the rates are the highest.
    
    ...mike
    

    ANybody check the Hotline lately? Any word fer shure on the La$ Vega$
    dates?
    
    ...michael t. "Anxious_to_be_(re)Born_In_The_Desert"Head
    

    hey hey rfb... tell us about yer new $3K computer system... what does
    that amount of dolleration get today? (as opposed to tomorrow, or last
    week... 8*)
    
    ...michael t. "back after four wonderful days with the spousal unit
    and the proud owner of a 'skeleton and roses'(tm) MOUSEPAD! (gift from
    the aforementioned wifely-visitor)"Head

    486DX2-66 MHZ, 16 MB RAM, 256KB SRAM cache, VL-bus motherboard, 1.44 MB
    Floppy, 850MB IDE hard drive, VL-bus controller, 14" SVGA tube, VL bus
    1MB SVGA card, keyboard, 2 serial 1 parallel 1 game port(s), MS-DOS 6.22,
    MS Windows 3.11, mouse, 14.4 fax/modem, soundblaster with MS-Office
    (this alone was $600!), Epson 800+ printer. AND A HOLE IN MY POCKET
    FROM WHICH VEGAS MONIES WAS COMIN!!!!!
    
    rfb
    

    Looks like it should last for a week or two...
    I'm looking to replace a old 386sx-16 which we've had for about four
    yrs. I'll prolly wait for another three to six months (at least until I
    get back to ABQ) and get a pentium-based someting.
    
    re: AND A HOLE IN MY POCKET FROM WHICH VEGAS MONIES WAS COMIN!!!!!
    
    I can relate... the weekend with Marty up here set us back almost $2K
    (but a LOT of that was in goodies like books and CD's... we went on a
    feeding frenzy at Rockit Records!)
    
    ...michael t. "broke but smiling"Head     

    While you are in Vegas for the showz, be sure to drop in at the Hard
    Rock Hotel and Casino on Paradise Road.  We just got back from a
    week-end stay there and it is way cool.  
    
    It is just like the HRCafe decor, but it is a hoot to gamble while
    Springsteen or Dylan or Petty is blasting overhead.  Be sure to look
    for the Grateful Dead references.  They are not that easy to spot, but
    as we made one last pass thru the casino on our way out we finally
    found them.
    
    See you at the shows....
    
    -jer

    
    I rec'd my mail order over the weekend.  Still no word of the 'special
    guest'.  
    
    Can't wait.
    
    Sloan

    Does that mean you have your tix in your hot little hand???? If so it's
    time to call TicketShafter in ABQ again..
    ...,ike

    we MO'd for a full boat (w/reg mail) and a single (W/no REG MAIL)...
    the single, I am told (is in someone elses name) IS IN!!!!! Talk about
    fast!!!!!
    
    rfb

    
    Re: 447.19 Does that mean you have your tix in your hot little hand????
    
    I have the tickets Mike. Ticket master should be soon!
    
    Sloan

    AWRITE! I'll call them tonite...

    Talked to La$ Vega$ ticketshafter. While he would not come out and say
    so, he intimated that DEadtix would go on sale Saturday at 11:00 A.M.
    PST.
    
    La$ Vega$ TicketShafter: 1-702-474-4000

    
    Thanks mon....get yer speed dialer ready! 
    
    Kip
    

    O.K. boyz and girlz, this is the *straight stuff*
    hot off the Hotine.
    
    Tix for Vega$ go on sale Sat. Apr. 8 (location unspecified)
    Do not call TicketShafter in Vega$ until then as they got more and more
    surly as Saturday progressed... (but I bet they carry the tickets as
    there is no other big outlet in Vega$)
    
    ...michael t. "Talked to about seven TM (tm) people Saturday"Head

    
    
    
    Michael T waiting_for_Vegas_deadhead knows of what he writes.
    Ticketbastards told me on Sunday that tix for the shows go on
    sale on the 8th.
    
    Kip patiently_waiting_for_the_opportunity_to_deadersize_with_rfb
    
    

    Finally got tix. TicketShafter in Albuquerque carried them after all.
    They said there were still plenty (as of Sat. P.M.). So, You should be
    able to pick them up at your favorite TM(tm). If you have such a thing.
    If there can BE such a thing.
    
    ...Michael T. "Hope they play "DEAL" again in Vega$"Head
    

    
    
    Yeeeeeeeow! Got tix on Saturday morn from Ticketshafter in Vegas.
    Intersting Michael, they told me that they were close to being
    sold out, and that was at noon!.
    
    anyway, just happy to be goin to the Friday and Saturday shows!
    2pm will be an interesting start time. Rumored opener, Dave
    Matthews Band, rocks!
    
    using an America Worst package deal for flight an hotel. Not too
    bad a price, but the ONLY flight back to SF I could get was a
    Sunday AM departure....bummer!
    
    RFB, here come the Californians!
    
    Kip
    

    
    
    So what's my best bet for getting Vegas tickets? Ticketf*$#er in
    Vegas? Pointer to the number? Kip?
    
    
    Steve-O
    

    You might try the local TM(tm) number in your area... we got ours from
    the Albuquerque number. If you can't get them locally the La$ Vega$
    TM(tm) number is 1-702-474-4000
    ...mike_who_has_tix_(and room res)_for_all_three_shows_and_who_will_be_
    tooling_around_Vega$_in_a_BRAND_NEW_red_convertibsl_with_a_hot_blonde_in_
    tow(And I don't care if you tell my wife... it IS my wife!)

re: America Worst

Worst is wright!  


- jeff_got_screwed_by_Thomas_Cook_and_had_
  to_take_Zoomerica_Wayovercrowdedest_to_
  and_from_Vegas_last_week... :-(

    
    Well, actually the package we got from America West wasn't all
    that bad. They've got a Spring special going where we got
    round trip air from Oakland + 3 nights at the Luxor for $274.00
    per person, including special 3D glasses for viewing rfb dancin
    his off off!
    
    We tried Southwest but all the friends fly free seats were
    gone.
    
    Hell, I'm just happy to be going!
    
    Kip
    

    wow... where can i get come of them fancy glasses?
    
    ...michael t. "Spots before my eyes"Head

    I can see the word has spread about my dancin.....
    just stay OUTA MAH WAY!!!!
    
    
    rfb

>    I can see the word has spread about my dancin.....
>    just stay OUTA MAH WAY!!!!

...I know the feeling...;-)

Extracted from the file, so far we are covering the town:
Add yourself to the list, anybody I missed...

...michael t. deadHead

	Boulder Junction: Mike D. and Marty and convertible (still nameless)
	StarDust: Cath Sloan
	Treasure Island: Sloan (same-same? How U gonna be at two places?)
	    (I'd rather be at Stardust out of old memories... 8*))
    	Rio Suites: kgb, dougie and etc.
	Luxor: Kip Q.
	rfb and the lovely Patty and crew, where U staying?

    

                       ********************************
                       * DEChead Las Vegas Hotel List *
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	Boulder Junction: Mike D. and Marty and convertible (still nameless)
	StarDust: Cath Sloan
	Treasure Island: Sloan (same-same? How U gonna be at two places?)
	    (I'd rather be at Stardust out of old memories... 8*))
    	Rio Suites: kgb, dougie and etc.
	Luxor: Kip Q.
	Excalibur: Adam, Dave, and Patty	
	rfb and the lovely Patty and crew, where U staying?

    rfb & Patty, Hoot & Divide Dave, Petemoss & Dennis the Dentist @ the
    Nevada Palace on Boulder Highway...other friends say they are stayin in
    the parking lot of the NP. 
    
    rfb

    I hope dennis the dentist is bringing along the tools of his trade
    %^o

    
    
    
    
     Hey there -
      Cindy and I are at Treasure Island now. There was a better 
      package rate going there rather than stardust.  I'll be playing craps 
      everywhere though.  Could we try to plan a get together afta the
      Saturday show?
      
     Cath           
    
      Boulder Junction: Mike D. and Marty and convertible (still nameless)
            
            Treasure Island: Cathy Sloan and Cindo
            Rio Suites: kgb, dougie and etc.
            Luxor: Kip Q.
            Excalibur: Adam, Dave, and Patty
            rfb and the lovely Patty and crew, where U staying?
     

    beings as how we are FLYIN, I don't think Dennis the Dentist will bring
    his, errr drills, ya that's it, drills....

    I would strongly suggest the Mexican Food Place in Green VAlley as our 
    Sat nite get together place if I could remember the name!, 
    that or Enzo's Pizza in Green Valley..Enzo's and the MEx food place are
    across the street (Green Valley Road???) from each other. They are
    close to the Silver Bowl and could be hit before heading back to the
    Strip...
    
    rfb

    I thought the plan (such as we have the ability and skill to produce)
    8*)
    is to meea at the S.B. and watch rfb dance through his 3-D glasses...
    er, are WE supposed to wear the glasses and watch rfb dance?
    er...will the glasses be dancin'?
    
    ...michael t. confused

    *I* won't need no stinkin glassses!!!!

    
    
    RE: Dentist....should be a real gas! :-)
    
    I'm up for meeting after the Sat show, but since I'll be gone from
    this place tomorrow, could someone email the plan of action to
    my buddy Jivin' Joe ( hawkinsj@dnt.dialog.com ) and we'll be there!
    
    Rumor has it that the SB has already roped off a section in dead center
    for rfb to demonstrate his whirling prowess.......
    
    NE1 know what the temps will be like during the shows? Can you purchase
    beer inside? Is security tough? Will Wavy Gravy make an appearance?
    
    Let there be......
    
    Kip
    

    Temps prolly high 90's/low 100's/low 110's (be prepared for HOT desert
    conditions)
    
    The stadium crew routinely hoses down the crowd; nobody minds
    
    Beer... I dunno, don't drink the stuff (at least not in the desert)
    
    They have ice-water vendors in the stands, an aid station (where they
    treat more for heat prostration than even bad acid), lots of people
    bring squirt bottles
    
    ...michael t. hotHead

    RE: Beer... I dunno, don't drink the stuff (at least not in the desert)
    
            WWWWWHHHHHAAAATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!?????!!!!!!??????
    
    there wil be NO beer inside, but plenty of beer vendors outside in the
    Parking lot and there will be TONS in the cooler(s) in our van, too. 
    (and some inside me, too)
    
    i don't expect the temps to be over 100 in MAy
    
    rfb

    Please allow me to introduce myself... (oops, wrong Notesfile!)
    
    Please allow me to EXPLAIN myself...
    
    You see, I have gout. If I drink too much beer, (which usually means
    more than about two) my left foot swells up, becomes VERY painful, and
    I cannot walk. Since, especially in the desert, I cannot go thru the
    day only drinking TWO beers, (more like seven or twenty), therefore
    I simply do not drink even ONE beer.
    
    While it makes me kinda put out to watch all my friends quaff and
    quench and get merrier and merrier, at least I'm a WONDERFUL Designated
    Driver.  Ya gotta look really hard to find the bright side sometimes...
    
    ...michael t. medical(not necessarily psycho)Head
                                                         

    I have gout too....a bowl of dark (bing?) cherries, fresh or canned,
    takes care of it. That's why the European royal families always had 
    cherries around. Give it  a try sometime, Mikey, when yer foot is
    hurting again.
    
    a day without beer or a hug is a sad day indeed....
    
    
    rfb

    a day without beer or a hug is a sad day indeed....
    
    yeah... and i have't had either since the Hot Blonde (tm) left town...
    
    Oh well... I get to see her May 10...
    
    ...mikey whose doing wonderful 100 % today 
    (all 100% of my direct customers got bit by bad code... that I wrote!)

    
    Anyone have a number for a ticket agency in Vegas. I have a friend
    that needs a 5/20 Saturday ticket. Suppose he'll have to pay 
    the big bucks for the ticket now .. but he's willing.
    
    Thanks,              
    Cathy

    TM(tm) number is posted somewhere in this Note, maybe .25 or so...
    
    from memory and probably wrong it is (702)474-4000
    
    They are in the La$ Vega$ directory assistance.
    
    ...mike (who has tyx for all three shows) but no spares...
    

    I hear the RADS and ELECTRIC TUNA are at the alladdinnn during the dead
    shows...like 10:30pm...

    
       re: RADS and ELECTRIC TUNA
    
         cool!!!! and the blackjack tables at the alladin have been
         good to me in the past.....color me there!
                                                            ^dave

    
    Not much longer. Can't wait.  Sounds like the parking lot is a
    happening place. What will i be looking for if I want to catch
    up in the lot with rfb&co?
    
    CSloan
    

    look for the guy lying face down...that will be Divide Dave..
    
    actually, hooking up in the parking lot is near impossible. let's do
    the dinner thing if we can. I'm still trying to find out the name of
    both the deli and mex rest in Green Valley *OR* call us up at The
    Nevada Palace and ask for Barnes... I'll try and call my sister in 
    Henderson tonite for the names of the restaraunts. 
    
    rfb

    
    
    My wife is going to Vegas next week and I'M NOT!!!!!
    
    What's up with that?
    
    
    
    Steve~O

    re rfb in .56
    
    you realize now, of course, that since you've said it is impossible to
    hook up in the lot, that you will all be parked in adjacent spaces
    quite by accident... :^)
    
    					da ve

    that would be cool....actually we haven't parked in the lot proper
    since the first year...we park along a frontage road that's on the
    desert side of the Silver Bowl...saw a cool roadrunner there two years
    ago...he was checkin out the bathroom activity %^)
    
    rfb

       re: .57
    
        Well Steve, tell her if she wants to hook up with any dead heads
        to give treasure island a call 18-21 and ask for sloan/downy room.
    
        Too bad you're not going too!
    
        re. hooking up in the lot
    
        I just wondered if I'd be looking for a Van with Colorado plates
        or what vehicle you guys are trucking in with -- Just by chance
        I might catch a glimpse of ya ... but for sure I'll try to stop
        by the back of the stadium to catch ya dancing and find the mexican
        place in Green Valley after the show.
    
        Sloan
     
    

                    COUNTDOWN TO ECSTASY!!!!
    
    Throw those t's and shorts in the knap-sack! stash all yer goodies!
    bring plenty of quarters! don't forget the spray bottle! or the
    tickets! or the sunscreen! or money, and more money and don't forget
    to bring some MONEY!! and you might need even more money!!!!!!!
    
    supposed to hear tonite about the name of the mex food place and Deli
    place in Green Valley
    
    
    rfb

    
       i'm also outta here thursday nite....should hit vegas sometime
     after midnite left coast time. hey rfb, make sure you warm those
     slots up before i get there 8^)
    
                                                        ^dave

    
              DC will be at Treasure Island too. He rec'd the trip
              for his birthday.
    
                    Treasure Island: Cathy Sloan and Cindo
              -->>>                  Dave Clark (DC) and Lydia
                    Rio Suites: kgb, dougie and etc.
                    Luxor: Kip Q.
                    Excalibur: Adam, Dave, and Patty
                    Nevada Palace: rfb and the lovely Patty and crew
    
         

    didn't get to meet DC and Lydia in Phx last year...hope to this
    time-a-round...
    
    rfb

    just popped in to say i'll be at the west side gate...
    
    DugO Ypoung called, he has tix for Sat. Nite two I believe...
    i can transport from ABQ to LA$ VEGA$ ...
    csall call DugO at (505)898-2513
    if he sells the tix he can call me...
    he is doing pretty well out hrere, a big jump it is too...
    
    ...mike
    (replying here or sending me mail is iffy but i probably will sign on
    tomorrow before we drive out)
    

    ok...the coyote cafe 43XX Sunset blvd. is the mexican food place we
    will be at each nite in GreenValley...that's as close of an address as
    I could come up with....call BARNES at the Nevada Palace mornings
    (not TOO early!) for further hook up directions....I'll print out what
    people have put in here and try to do a little calling too.
    
    TO DE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    rfb

    re .58: EXACTLY! I had been trying to get ahold of kgb, douggie,
    craigie-heggie, and co. for three days, leaving phone msgs and etc. To
    no avail. So, driving into the show on Sunday, who pulls up behind us
    in the access lane to the parking lot! 8*)
    
    ...mike
    

    Trip report..
    
    Just got back home after spending two weeks in Seattle, WA.  What a
    place!  Weather was perfect (believe it or not no rain!).  People are
    incredibly nice - even downtown they say hello!  Water, water
    everywhere and oh yeah, da boyz came to town.
    
    Originally I had no plans on going, my friend that I visited wouldn't
    be interested and I don't like going to shows alone, so initially I
    planned to blow them off!
    
    However, while on a tourist boat tooling around Puget Sound the guy
    sitting next to me had a Steal Your Face watch on and I struck up a
    conversation with him.  He convinced me to attend the Thursday show and
    I'm really glad that I did!
    
    Don't have the set list in front of me, however, the Stranger and He's
    Gone was just  smoking.  The only weak moment was Samba In The Rain (which 
    admittedly  I never liked).  Even drumz/space was good.  The stadium only 
    seats 25K  and the show wasn't sold out.  Early start (5:45PM).  The other 
    thing I noticed was that the 2nd set instead of flowing from song to song 
    seemed to be more like a first set of song stop song.  Jerry was in 
    great voice and playing with great intensity. 
    
    Friday was sold out, but I did manage to get a ticket.  Any show that
    opens with Help/Slip/Franklin and starts a 2nd set with Scarlet/Fire
    into Playin'/Uncle John's is pretty good in my book.  Alot less long
    jams but the quality of music was much superior to many shows I've been
    to in the last year or so.
    
    Now I see what the differences are between East and West Coast shows. 
    The crowds here are so much more frenzied.  West Coasters just take it
    in stride and it's not like the Dead play Seattle all the often.  The
    people I met up with said last year's shows were the first in over 20
    years and that the response from the city and band was so positive 
    that da boyz decided to come back.  Every day the shows made the paper
    and the opening show had highlights on the 11PM news!
    
    If any of you get a chance this is a must visit city.  Great views,
    food, locations and loads of things to do.  Can't wait to go back.
    
    Fredda
     

    I TOLD patty we should just keep on goin to Seattle and Portland after
    Vegas! 
    
    rfb

    I like that last note's number......
    
    anyone else hear about the riot in Vegas in the parking lot?? 
    hears what/how I heard....Friday, May 26, in my dr office he hears i
    just came back from the dead (and looked like it too) and says "Oh I
    hear there was a riot?" that was us I say....then I hear from lawlor
    there really was a riot! This is second hand so yell at lawlor if the
    specifics are wrong, but I guess Friday after the show there was some
    local robbing people at knifepoint in the lot, which pissed the cops
    off so they were already tense for Sat. Then after the show sat, some
    local is standing on the raod throwing beerbottles and rocks at the cop
    cars. Cops chase him into the lot, into a drum circle where they beat
    him pretty good. "Kill the cops!" becomes the chant. Cops get scared
    and pepper gas the drum circle....end of riot.....
    
    and i was thinkin and talkin with lawlor about the 80 arrests....that's
    nothin for a weekend, is it?????? Don't the cops do much more damage in
    the east on a weekend???
    
    rfb

    .68  I agree Seattle  is a beautiful I was there for the first time 
    two years ago, the site of Mt. Ranier was spectacular, and no rain
    either, didn't get out much due to work, but visited a Casino
    on a Indian Reservation, and (pardon the pun) got scalped.
    
    I will be back to that area sometime, it must be great to see
    a show there..

re:  Seattle

Gorgeous!  Of course I was out there for a week before I could see the
mountain.  Lot's of microbrews and brewpubs...coffee.  Pretty city what with 
"Lake" Washington and all (I believe that's what it's called...??).

Re: arrests at shows

I remember from Oxford w/ 2 shows and a 100K per day there were less than 60
arrests total.  I also remember the Tampa thing from a year or more ago where
there were problems caused and tear gas was used.

bob

    i have it on pretty good authority from both friends who live there and
    my own experience, that the amount of "rain" Seattle gets is greatly
    exaggerated...  
    
    the locals say they like it that way...  "it keeps californians and
    woosy tourists away"... :^)
    
    one of my favorite cities...  one of the few places outside new england
    i would consider relocating to...
    
    					da ve

    
    Oregon and Washington wildeness absolutely blows my mind into tiny little 
    pieces.
    
    Personally I didn't like the Seattle city scene....seemed like everyone 
    I met out there wanted me to ride the horse...When I told them I didn't
    surf that wave, I was an outcast.  Very bizzare.

I lived in Seattle for 2 years while in grad school (probably should have 
stayed). Great city, lots to do with mountains and lakes near by. Seattle 
gets less rain than Boston annually. It's just grey and drizzly for most of 
the winter where here we get snow and sun (and a few clouds).

jeff

    re Deano...  i hear *that*...  every city has a dark side and heroin
    seems pretty high on too manypeoples agenda there...  not that i'm a
    big fan on Nancy Reagan but "just say NO" was part of my hit parade
    there...
    
    					da ve