Conference rdvax::grateful

So, you're staying here, not moving to Md. ?

    wow I rilly called it didn't I Fog....
    
    sounds like a good gig to me....in 6 months you can teach Charlie-o to
    do your job and you can sit around and watch Phil/Oprah/Montel/Sally
    and and lets not forget you can final get back to watch your soaps too
    
    forcast...the Fog should be rolling out in a few weeks
    
    Chris

    gonna miss ya, bud....not being hooked to the net, let's try and keep
    in touch...
    
    rfb

Sounds cool Fog.  What type of job you be doing?  I could get into that 
type of commute.  Actually I'll be doing it for at least one day
a week, but I'm still trying to get slip up and running and it doesn't
seem to be going for me.  Sigh....

rfb, DEC is on the net, so you should be able to reach him.  But then
again, I seem to remember you not being to sure of your status here for
the foreseeable future...  Sigh...

Best of luck man
PeterT

Good luck Fog!!

Looks like PC development from home could be the wave of the future!  
turns out my system at home is better than they have available for me at Coors, 
so I'll be spending most of my time working from home too, at least
initially  - whata deal!


glennnnn

    Congratulations and best of luck!!
    
    I've noticed that your commuting range has been limited by the Woody's
    range and it was only a matter of time before it hit zero.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    congrats Mikey!  i'll have to swing by "the office" soon...  been way
    too long.. :^)
    
    				da ve

    
    Congratulations Fog'osis!!!
    
    You're gonna be missed here....but it's good you ain't goin too
    far!
    
    Were still gonna hafta catch some late season skiing at Kmart.
    
    Hell, with your talent to ski on surfaces other than snow...we could 
    go now!!!! ;-)
    
    Best of luck!

I won't be doing PC development. I'm with KO, I still think these things 
are just toys.  :-)  I'll be doing unix stuff mostly, network management 
crap like I do now. I'll be on the road in the region at least once a week, 
so no, Jamie, I can't quite yet turn my wagoneer into yet another very large 
yard gnome on blocks.  :-)

    
    Wow......congrats Fog!!!  I'll miss you much in this notesfile!!
    
    Hogan

	congrats!!!
	
	I shall forever digress in your honor.
	
	;-)
	

    Congratulations Fog!!  Working from home sounds great!
    
    :), danielle

wow Best of luck Fog. You'll be sorely missed 'round these parts. Enjoy 
yourself.

jeff

    Fog,
    
    You'll be missed!  Good luck!!!!!
    
    Fredda                           

    Good luck to you Fog!  I hereby declare the 'digressions in honor of
    Fog' to be forever more (can I do that?) 
    
    carol

    you just did !

best of luck mon!  
another long-time grateful dude goes.

    
    
    
    Good Luck Fog,
      Sounds like a grate setup.  More time with Charlie.  real happy
    for you.  
    
    	Congrats
    

    Fog
    
    Best of luck and success in your new ventures.  Thanks for the Dead
    tapes which are impossible to get over here.  They are recycled
    regularly on my car deck.
    
    Best Wishes
    
    Dermot

Congratulations Fog! 
	It sounds like a pretty good move. I hope it all works out as well as
it sounds. Where you get to stay in the same house, then I'm sure I'll see 
you around. BUt, if you're going to be on the road a lot, I have a wild idea you
might substitute something else for the Wagoneer in the not too distant future.
It's amazing the difference between 17 and 34 MPG.


	Geoff

Sheesh, you'd think they'd cut a short timer some slack. I gotta fly to DC 
tommorow. Yuck.

Btb, this morning I got offered a 25% raise to stay. Sometimes it just
simply amazes me how stupid management can be. "duhh lets not give the guy
a raise for three years, then after he gives his notice and comits to a job
at another company, see what we can do to keep ourselves from having to do
his job after he leaves". 

fog_who_really_likes_DEC_except_for_this_one_pet_peeve_and_who_gave_his_boss_
plenty_of_warning_about_this!

    typical digital mentality.....pisses one off, don't it??

    Fog:
    
    What ever your decision - Good luck. If you do decide to leave you'll
    be sorely missed in this notes file. Regardless of where you end up it
    sounds like you'll be staying put as far as your home is concerned so
    there is good chance we may see you at Slipknot and local (BG, Centrum,
    Prov Civiv Center) Dead shows. Maybe with enough notice we can even get
    you to a DEChead lunch.
    
    Good luck.
    
    Jack
    

Hey Fog, 

Congrats and best of luck.  re:  the wage thing - I understand but before
very recently wages were frozen; they aren't anymore (from what I've been
told).  But like I said - I understand.....

>    Prov Civiv Center) Dead shows. Maybe with enough notice we can even get

Keep dreamin' Jack - the dead will have to put an all disco 1976 reminisce
LP out and drive away the hordes before they'll fit into a little place like
that. :)   

bob

>>    Prov Civiv Center) Dead shows. Maybe with enough notice we can even get

>Keep dreamin' Jack - the dead will have to put an all disco 1976 reminisce
>LP out and drive away the hordes before they'll fit into a little place like
>that. :)   

huh?  does the providence civic center really hold that much less people than
the boston garden?  i remember it being on the same order of magnitude, but
i've only been there once, and that was 3 years ago.

- rich

    JGB plays the Providence Civic Center

I dunno, seems small to me :)

I really don't know capacity though.  Maybe it's the way it's laid out;
more intimate that I got a false reading on the size of the place.

bob

Providence Civic Center is probably similar to the Centrum in seating
capacity.  Somewhere around 15,000 or so.  The Boston Garden seats
somewhere around 18,500 for basketball, so figure closer to 20K for 
a concert.

Fog, good to hear they want you to stay and are willing to chip in 
more money, BUT that sounds like something they should have done 
a while back.  The proper window for that is after you have the other
offer, but before you've officially accepted.  From what you say, 
it sounds like you did present them the opportunity to do that.  
Unless the 25% raise (!!!) is significantly more than what you'd make
at the new job, I'd say screw em!  There are other factors in mind
I'm sure, but no doubt you'll decide what's best for you.  Change 
can be good.
Don't know if I ever mentioned this, but at SIS, when Dan and Charlie
were playing a bit together, you donated one of Charlies matchbox
cars to Dan (as you supposedly had lots of them).  Just wanted to let
you know that Dan REALLY likes that car.  It's now one of a set of 
cars that he takes to bed with him at night ;-)  Boy, it can be
a bit strange waking up in bed at night to find this little boy
climbing into bed with you, WITH his handful of cars!  Thanks!

Later,
PeterT

Take Care Fog.

Enjoy and have fun on the new Yob!!!!

:-)



- jeff

    Re:Providence Civic Center. I agree with PeterT, its about the same
    size as the Centrum. Last time the Dead played there (87???) there were
    the usual fans without tickets who kind of hung out in front and
    generally around this venue. From the point of view of the Providence
    Police Dept this was not a cool thing to do and there was a lot of
    arrests, fights etc. Consequently, it will be a long time I think
    before the boyz play there again.
    
    However, if we get a new mayor, the current one is a convicted criminal
    things may change as the local merchants realize the $$$$ involved adn
    would like to get in on this kind of cash flow.
    
    As for a funky and smaller venue, consider the old Leroy Theater in
    Pawtucket (I saw JGB there back in 76/77 time frame) This place "seats"
    about 4000. Seats is a loose term here as many of them are broken and
    you need to check where the springs are located before plopping
    yourself down in one as this could be a painful experience.
    
    Even older perhaps is the old Rhode Island Auditorium. I saw my first
    concert ever (the Beach Boys) there in 1965. This place is like the
    garden without the upper balcony. It was an ice hockey rink and home of
    the Rhode Island Reds (now the Providence Bruins). Instead of glass
    around the rink, they had chicken wire. Further they let fans (of
    drinking age) drink beer (paper cups only) in the stands. I rember
    watching a player from the opposing team being checked into the boards
    and then having a fan throw beer in the guys face through the chicken
    wire. There were some truly amazing brawls during these hockey games as
    well. 
    
    This venue was also famous for the fact that there were seats which
    could be "rained-out" because the roof leaked so badly.  Gives a whole
    new meaning to customer service desk request.
    
    The boyz played here in 1971 although I did not attend this show (I saw
    them the next night in Cortland, New York (with about 2500 other
    deadheads) For reference, I still have the ticket stub for this show -
    cost $3.00 general admission.) Lest I digress to far, this venue is now
    a condo/tennis complex.
    
    Jack
    
    

    Ah yes, I remember the R.I. Auditorium very well.  Jack is right about
    the chicken wire; you could actually grab and hold onto opposing team
    players' jerseys.  They didn't like that too much.  As I recall, Hendrix
    played the Auditorium.
    
    In the Providence Civic Center, the balcony isn't stacked over the
    lower arena like at the Garden; the upper seats continue to fan back.
    I think this adds to making it seem smaller for some reason.  The new
    Boston Garden is supposed to be more along this line as well.
    
    /rick

Well, another 24 hours then I'm gone.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to let you all know that YOU'VE GOT 
IT ALL WRONG!!!!

The Universe is not lumpy. Its Bubbly.

TRUE FACT! Latest 3D models of the visible universe show that galactic 
clusters are arranged as though they fill the space between bubbles. That's 
it folks, we're all rilly just nothing more than interstellar soap scum. 

Goombye...

    
    May this be the best 24 hours of your Dec life!1
    
    Good luck in anything you do in the future.
    
    
    Divide Dave

    
    
    Hey now Fogman,
    
    Haven't got to meet you yet (even tho we both worked in WFO) but I
    have enjoyed your ramblings(Lost in Space was/is my Fav) and will miss
    your anecdotes. Good luck in the future in all that you do ...
    
    
    Peace,
    Toby
    

    so long Fog...I'll try and keep in touch, if for nothing else to beg
    for tapes....come see us again sometime...
    
    rfb

Take care, Fog.  We'll miss you.

tim

Fog's rolling out. Take care and enjoy yourself!

    Take it easy, Fog!

    :-)

    
    - jeff

    Best of Luck, Fog
    
    Wes

	Good luck, Fog.

    
    you know, looking back through some of these replies, i think it's 
    strangely fitting that fog's good-bye note digressed into a discussion
    of various venues in Rhode Island and then digressed back again to the 
    original topic...  :^)
    
    					da ve

    I miss Fog

Shoot,  Can't find the note - but this is a "related one" so here goes.
So long Rachel.  Enjoy you next full time job!  I know some full time
mom's and I think I'd rather work at DEC :) :) :)

Hey to Fog for me....
bob

	not that it makes *any* difference, but it was in ...
	

	
	the digression note (in honor of fog ;-)