Conference rdvax::grateful

Why do I keep getting the feeling that this is gonna be
one of the most anti-climactic events of the year?

When is it, anyway?  (can you tell I'm excited? ;-)

tim

    >> When is it, anyway?  (can you tell I'm excited? ;-)
    
    this weekend...

I think it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  I have one friend who tried to get
me to go with him, but I already had plans. (Of course, I also considered
chucking those and going anyway, but reason prevailed, or was it the
lure of the $135 tickets? ;-)  We'll be in Westchester this weekend, so
I don't know if well see any traffic tieups, hope not!  My wife still remembers
getting stuck on the Thruway with her folks for the original.  Just innocent
tourists caught in the melee of peace, love, and understanding!  My oldest
brother went, but he says he was way out in the boonies and didn't see/hear
much.

PeterT

    it's being touted as "two more days of peace and music", so I think
    it's only Sat and Sun....good thing the dead bagged it, or it would
    prob. be 2 days of peace and music and 4 more days of trying to get 
    the hell outa new york!(aka traffic jams)
    
    rfb

>    it's being touted as "two more days of peace and music", so I think
>    it's only Sat and Sun....

i think it was extended from 2 to 3 days, but i'm not sure (i'm not going)

>good thing the dead bagged it, or it would
>    prob. be 2 days of peace and music and 4 more days of trying to get 
>    the hell outa new york!(aka traffic jams)

oh, and i suppose a quarter of a million people aren't going to cause any
kind of minor traffic tie-ups, dead or no dead...

. . . r i c H

    what i meant rich is that a couple a hundred thousand deadheads added
    to the 1/4 mill would only compound things...clear??
    
    rfb

 It is now 3 days, the third day, Friday, will feature artists
that only recently signed on to perform.  I wonder
if this includes Weir/Wasserman/Hot Tuna?

Steve

   Oh yeah, and according to the official Woodstock-94 internet site:
	
"BIG WOODSTOCK RUMOR: Grateful Dead's Bob Weir, Roger McGuinn, Richard
Thompson, Rob Wasserman AND MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER will be joining The
Band on stage for their set. Tentative name......The New Waltz."

I wouldn't mind going to Woodstock.  I like a lot of the bands there and from
what I was told the price doesn't seem to be all that bad at a mere 4 bucks a 
band (includes camping)...and just how much did you all shell out for one band 
in the Boston Garden :)  

I can't manage all the time off and logistical hassles of going (I'd want to be
there now).

It does go from some time Friday afternoon til early Saturday morning...then
12-2am on Sat and finishes up with a 12 to 12 on Sunday.

bob
ps.  No Johnny Cash....

Yeah, I would like to be going too, but would have liked to see them
arrange the bands more closely to the style of music they play -- that way you
can go far far away for bands (like Metallica and Nine inch Nails in my case),
and try to get closer for bands like the Band and the Allmans...

for example - It's kinda weird that they have the Nevilles in between Metallica
and Nine inch Nails 


glennnn

    if i had my way.....
    
    I'd a liked to have gone to the cancelled woodstock, the one with all
    orig. woodstock bands performing..or the hippiefest that is also this
    weekend somewhere close to the orig gig....480 new york state patrol
    somehow scares the sh*t outa me! 
    
    rfb

    >> I'd a liked to have gone to the cancelled woodstock, the one with
    >> all orig. woodstock bands performing..or the hippiefest that is also 
    
    me too...:(

    I guess it takes a librarian to point out that the Nevilles HAVE to 
    be put between Metallica and Nine inch Nails 
    
    alphabetically speaking
    carol
    

>    I guess it takes a librarian to point out that the Nevilles HAVE to 
>    be put between Metallica and Nine inch Nails 


Ah-ha!  
The list is three different alphabetic lists!  
You librarians are so observant ;^)
    
Glennnn

> how bad were the traffic tie-ups 25 years ago?  

The NY State Thruway was closed man....  :-)  Probably not all 500 or so
miles though.

> NYC may be far away, but how many people going to Wood$tock will be 
> crossing the tappan-zee?  more than just a few, i'd imagine.

Yeah, I'd say more than a few, definitely more than a few, will be crossing
that bridge in the opposite direction.

Woodstock and vicinity is approximately 100 miles Nouth of NYC.
Tim is heading South to NJ, and I'd imagine that most woodstock II
goers would be heading north towards the concert grounds.  Even so,
I'd doubt traffic would be backed up for 100 miles! 

I wouldn't worry about it Tim... 

/Ken

>Woodstock and vicinity is approximately 100 miles Nouth of NYC.
>Tim is heading South to NJ, and I'd imagine that most woodstock II
>goers would be heading north towards the concert grounds.  Even so,
>I'd doubt traffic would be backed up for 100 miles! 

but is Bethel east or west of the Hudson River?  if it's west (which would be
my guess), then a large number of people heading to the show will be crossing
the Hudson River in the same direction as someone heading from Boston to NJ

. . . r i c H

> but is Bethel east or west of the Hudson River?  if it's west (which would be
> my guess), then a large number of people heading to the show will be crossing
> the Hudson River in the same direction as someone heading from Boston to NJ

The one is Bethel is the one that got cancelled.  The one that is happening
this weekend is actually in Woodstock(I thinks, or real nearby).  Either
way, both are west of the Hudson, and, yes, anyone coming up that way 
will be going over the Tappan Zee, in the same direction that Tim is
heading.  We'll be in the Westchester area, but don't have to cross
over the bridge ourselves.  Time will tell.

PeterT

    Woodstock will be held in Saugerties, NY...I have no idea where it is
    in relation to Bethel (where the original one was)

    I think Saugerties and Woodstock, which are in the same vicinity, are
    about 60 miles from Bethel

Interesting TV piece on the old/new Woodstocks last night on Ch. 5.
Had Louden Wainwrite (sp?) singing in his usual sarcastic sorta-early-Dylanish
talking blues style a tune about it... one funny lyric went something like,

"and if you folks sitting at home took some bad iced tea or somethin',
don't worry, cause Wavey Gravey'll talk ya down right over the Internet!"

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

See JC, there are reason's to watch TV! :-)


Josh

	Are we taking bets ?  ;-)

	/Ken

    I thought they were busing them in ?

    Isn't Saugerties far enough north that most NE traffic would stay on
    84W instead of dipping south to do the Tappan Zee/287 thing?
    
    - Dave (yes, I am planning on driving westbound over the Tappan Zee
      tomorrow morning)

>    Isn't Saugerties far enough north that most NE traffic would stay on
>    84W instead of dipping south to do the Tappan Zee/287 thing?

Yeah, most traffic from New England would head 84W and cross over ???
I always head south on 684 to my brothers from there, so I'm not
sure.  Bear Mountain Bridge??  (much smaller than Tappen Zee).  Farther
north, they're likely to hit Albany and then swing a little southwest.
But from Connecticut, Long Island, NYC area, the Tappen Zee is the 
most likely bet.  

PeterT

re:<<< Note 86.45 by QUARRY::petert "rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty" >>>

>Yeah, most traffic from New England would head 84W and cross over ???

Newburgh-Beacon bridge (what I call it - I don't think it has an "official"
name).

>But from Connecticut, Long Island, NYC area, the Tappen Zee is the 
>most likely bet.  

Yes, I would agree.

If you are going from Boston->NJ area, I'd take 84->684 South->Saw Mill River
Parkway->George Washington Bridge.  You'd be guaranteed to not hit any
Woodstock traffic since they'd all be crossing the Hudson River further north
(ie. Tappan Zee).

Keep in mind that a large amount of Woodstock traffic will be from the "I can
afford Woodstock tickets" NYC/CT/LI area.

adam

    thanks for all the inputs everyone. Does Woodstock officially start
    tomorrow? I'm hoping to be crossing the Tappan Zee bridge around 8AM
    tomorrow. Maybe people won;t be out on the road at that point.

    I was just reading in the paper they are letting ticket holders onto
    the grounds today.
    
    they also found someones stash of POT ! they got drug smellin' dogs up
    there ! YIKES !
    
    Chris

    Yes, Woodstock starts tomorrow morning...
    
    >> hey got drug smellin' dogs up there ! YIKES!
    
    Really?  That's weird...
    
    I was watching CNN this morning.  This is the deal:  You park in the
    designated parking area (whatever one is on your pass), wait in a line
    to go through a metal detector (looks like a metal doorway), then you
    have to empty the contents of your bags for inspection, and then wait
    in line for the shuttle bus.  (sigh)....At first I thought that there
    was no way that many people could get checked....but if they have a lot
    of staffing at the parking areas, maybe....
    
    :), danielle

Gee, sounds just like the last time...;-) ;-)

tim

    And guess what?  I'm going to Woodstock now!
    
    	A very nice friend of mine sent me mail and offered me a free
    ticket (since I'm always broke :) because his friend wants to play golf
    this weekend instead.  :-)  :-)
    
    	When Woodstock 94 was first forming, I wasn't planning on going at
    all.  But now that they have a better line-up, it doesn't look as bad
    after all...especially if I don't have to pay $135 to go....
    
    trip report when I get back......
                                     

I liked the Mr. Mallard cartoon in the Globe yesterday:

Old hippie to twenty something at Woodstock II:

When I was your age, I had walk five mile through snow to buy drugs.

possible traffic advice:

contrary to what i usually do (which is stay as far from nyc as possible when
heading to nj), instead head south sooner and go straight towards nyc,
crossing the hudson as far south as you can.  that will probably keep you
away from woodstock traffic more than the tappan-zee would.

- rich

	All this talk about how to avoid the traffic sounds like a scheme for
 racing in unussual wind. Go for a port star and sail low, then just before the 
starbord layline tack over, being careful not to overstand. I guess you'd have 
to be there.

Geoff who_wouldn't_go_to_Woodstock_now_because_I'm_excited_about_a_race_tomorrow

>    	So its was 25 years ago....where were you when you heard about 
    
>    			WOODSTOCK....

i was probably in the hospital, and i don't think i was paying attention to it,
and my parents just wouldn't let me go...

- rich-born-25-years-ago-today

    Happy Woodstock, Greedstock Birthday Rich !!!
    
    (someone in Music called it Greedstock, I think that sums it up)
    
    I was 9 the first time around...I guess I was a bit of a weird kid, I
    wanted to go with my brothers...they didn't go either, but I wanted all
    of us to go...

         My understanding is that the Dead played a "less than stellar" set
    at the original Woodstock.  Anyone care to offer a somewhat late review
    of their performance?  What did the setlist look like?
    
         To answer the original question, even though I was of prime age
    to attend (17 or there abouts), I must have been a nerdy kid because I
    didn't even know that it was going on until I read about it in the
    newspapers, WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING.
    
    Russ
    
    - who has an original Woodstock ('69) Poster on his office wall
                                               

There's a tape around, I forget what's on it except for Dark Star.
The things I remember about interviews I've heard (Jerry) is that the
band was dosing heavily, it was raining and the wind was howling, 
with lightening and all kinds of electricity happening.  THere were
a couple of inches of water on the stage itself, and the band thought
they'd all be electrocuted via their instruments.  Must made for a tight
set. NOT! ;-)


For a WS chuckle, dial 617-236-1973 ext 114.  

/Ken

    yeah thats what I remember read/hearing...bad weather...Bobby kept
    getting zapped....but Jerry made the movie and the LP :')
    
    Chris
    
    BTW, how many of you have been ask why you are not there ? I think Im
    gonna go home and hide out for the weekend and then tell everyone I
    went, I saw, so what ?
    
    :')

  On Letterman one night Jerry and Bob were on, Jerry said that someone
 decided to change the ground, then broke broke in and sais he was getting zapped
 every time he touched his guitar. The conversation led to that there
 were spark shooting across the stage and sh!t like that.


 Shawn

    gee wonder if the dosin' had anything to do with it ?
    
    @:^*
    
    

    I was 14 years old and wanted to go real bad - but - my aunt took me on
    vacation with her for 3 weeks in Israel.  I remember reading about it
    in the Int'l Herald Tribune and seeing some truly wonderful pictures of
    people on the lawn hanging out having a great time!
    
    My brother bought the album for me when it came out and I don't think
    it left the record player for a very long time.
    
    BTW- was in Macy's yesterday.  "Official" t-shirts are $18 bucks,
    dungaree jackets $140.
    
    My friend has an illegal pay-per-view hookup - maybe I'll go over and
    watch some - but then with two stages going at the same time, which
    band are they going to show?
    
    
    Fredda

St. Stephen > Mama Tried, Dark Star > High Time, Lovelight

    
    Perhaps not a stellar setlist, but maybe stealth.
    
    Looks pretty good to me.

dogs, security, etc at Woodstock '94. I heard it referred to as 
Woodstockade and WoodStalag 19

This may have been mentioned before (maybe by me, anyone see where my mind 
went) but there was a cartoon a few weeks ago of Woodstock '94 with a stage 
announcer warning of bad antacid circulating the show

    bad antacid!!!!!!! HA!!!! the more i hear about this, the less
    impressed I am..
    
    The show that was cancelled at the orig site is on again and 
    now A FREE SHOW!!!

       
    > The show that was cancelled at the orig site is on again and
    > now A FREE SHOW!!!
    
	NOW WE'RE TALKIN!!!
    	

>    The show that was cancelled at the orig site is on again and 
>    now A FREE SHOW!!!

is this just a rumor, or do you know this for sure?

- rich

    read it in out local nazi rag today, rich, so I'm assuming it's true,
    also said that the performers had already been paid half, so most will
    do the show....
    rfb

 So did anyone see Woodstock?  I watched about 20 hours of
it on a friends pay per view.

Allman Brothers were outstanding as usual.  Hot Tuna sat in with
The Band.  Weir/Wasserman did a duet followed by the Band joining
in.
Joe Cocker opened on Saturday with a lot of energy. Santana did a
tribute to Hendrix as did Porno For Pyros.  Lots of naked people.

I taped on audio, the sets of Cocker, The Band, Weir/Wasserman, Allmans,
Santana, Spin Doctors, Dylan, Traffic and I can't remember what else.
Anyone is welcome to it.

Steve

	I watched the "news" coverage on eMptyTV,
	I listened to some of it on PPV (video scrambled),
	I watched some of Sunday at my sister's house (my nephew video
	taped the entire show). 
	
	Most of what I saw was great (some of it was bogus, like the
	Rollins Band ;-)
	
	I wish I had the PPV at home. I would've watched a lot more of
	it. How much was PPV, anyway?
	
	I' definitely gonna borrow my nephew's tapes to watch selected
	acts (like the Band) and Santana's Hendrix tribute set, where
	they brought on Hendrix's daughter.
	
	Jay

> I watched some of Sunday at my sister's house (my nephew video
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

hmmmm, you don't have a neice named audio, do you??   ;-)

Letterman had Calvert DeForest (you know, Larry Bud...)  live at the
show.  Calvert said "And take it from me.  The brown acid is STILL bad!!"

NBC out of New York City (roundabouts where I was this weekend) had
Al Rocha, the weatherman (who lives near my brother, apparently, for
what that's worth ;-) live from Woodstock '94.  Definitely for 
hype value.  However, at one point he did come up with this somewhat
confusing note, which may or may not have some consequence.  
Al reported that Rob Wasserman of the Grateful Dead had slipped in
the mud and broken his arm, and this might have some consequence for
the upcoming tour.  Now, Wasswerman and Weir were one of the acts
but we all know Wasserman has no real connection with the Dead otherwise.
But if he got the names wrong, instead of the affiliation.....

Haven't seen the official news yet, so I'll take it with a grain of 
salt.

PeterT

      the PPV was around $50 for the entire weekend, and if
you signed up on Sunday, $30 for the day.

Overall, I thought the show was pretty good.  There were some low
points like Rollins Band, Nine Inch Nails, Green Day and Porno for
Pyros.  I'm just not into that thrashing/punk stuff.  Most of these
bands seemed talented with the exception of Nine Inch Nails. They showed
up for their set covered in mud, smashed all their instruments and 
hardly played anything recognizable as music.

Green Day, a punk band from England (or thereabouts) taunted the wet,
mud covered crowed which responded by launching mud clods at the band.
The guitarist/singer had to put his guitar down because he had mud stuck
between the strings.  Fans jumped on stage and on the band.  It got 
pretty ugly.  These same fans had booed WOMAD (world organization of
music and dance?) when their precussion set went overtime.  Peter Gabriel
and guy from Green Day told them to cool it.  That was the low point in
Woodstock.

>hmmmm, you don't have a neice named audio, do you??   ;-)

	Yeah!! I do! How'd you know!??
	
	She wants to know if you'd introduce her to your brother
	apparently (the one who lives near Al Rocha ;-)
	

>low points like Rollins Band, Nine Inch Nails, Green Day and Porno for
>Pyros.
	
	Yep, you hit most of the low points ;-)
	Although, when I watched the "replay" of Green Day it was pretty
	funny. And I didn't think they were too bad. Not as bad as Porno
	for Pyros.
	
	Amazing Woodstock fact: over 700 broken ankles!
	
	;-)

     I heard that as early as Saturday afternoon 3 people
had already died. :(

I decided I hated the singer for Green Day because of his
uncool attitude to the crowd.  But as the mud onslaught
became more intense he never once look like he would
stop playing.  He kept on jammming even as mud hit him in the 
head.  He gained my respect.  Then when he tossed mud back
at the crowed with a smile I think that showed he finally 
understood what Mudstock was all about. Getting dirty?

    so well so ummmm I know Dylan showed up  - I heard he did sing
     -  let's go ahead and call it singing - what tunes did he do -
    if they were indentifiable?
    
    c

>     I heard that as early as Saturday afternoon 3 people
> had already died. :(

One woman fell off a bicycle on Rte 9 in New York (which is by no means a 
bicycle friendly road) and was hit by a truck.

One guy had diabetes and died from cardiac arrest.

The last I heard about was a ruptured spleen, which was said to be
a pre-existing condition (yeah but don't they treat these things??)

Nothing directly related to the festivities, other than that the woman
was biking to Woodstock, and the other two were there when they died,
and may have died similarly had they not been there.

PeterT

I have a set list at home (courtesy of a Dylan freak friend of mine).

I must say his singing was probably the best I've ever heard from him.  He
really seemed to be putting a real effort into getting the tunes out with good
quality, unlike, for instance, Letterman's 10th Anniversary special :-)

from memory:

just like a woman
watchtower
rainy day woman #9 and #35 (correct title?)
masters of war
highway 61
it ain't me babe

he did about 6-7 more tunes.  can't remember the titles.

adam

                     <<< Note 417.55 by WESERV::ROBERTS >>>

   > so well so ummmm I know Dylan showed up  - I heard he did sing
   > -  let's go ahead and call it singing - what tunes did he do -
   > if they were indentifiable?
    
   I wish I could remember, %^) my buddy and I were on our second
bottle of mead with a case of homebrew already down.  I think he did
Baby Blue, they rest is a nasal sounding blurr.  
I remember Dylan laid down some nice, neat jams on his Strat.  The 
band was tight, I was impressed, but song titles I don't know. letcha 
know later from the tapes.
Steve  

    
    a NASAL sounding blurrrr  ??
    
    I think NOT!  
    
    :-)  :-)  :-)
    

       perhaps I've chosen the wrong word to describe
Bob Dylan's unique singing style.  I'll retract the use
of the word nasal and simply replace it with "unique" ;')

adam is right on though about Dylan's effort.  He really
seemed to be trying to enunciate the lyrics; very intelligible.
Not being a Dylan expert, I thought his set last night was the
best live Dylan I've heard yet.  The MTV-generation crowd there
seemed to appreciate his performance.  The V-jays responded after
his set something like "I guess Dylan just showed this crowd why 
he's considered the one of the best/the king/the main-man" or 
something like that. I do agree.

Steve

    
    Steve!  you do know I was joking, right?   
    
    

                     <<< Note 417.61 by WESERV::ROBERTS >>>

    
   > Steve!  you do know I was joking, right?    
   Right!

    I watched more MTV this weekend than I have in my entire life! to see
    the woodstock clips of course, most all the videos I muted. The last
    thing I saw/heard Sunday nite was the wrap-up..when Tabatha
    whats-her-name said "I'm following the Red Hot Chili Peppers, forget
    the Grateful Dead, I'm following the peppers!" Have at it Tabatha!

           IMO-Tabitha Soren is a putz

    After the first song Dylan WAS understandable - and he was great
    
    lite of the moon
    just like a woman
    watchtower
    freight train
    don't think twice
    masters of war!!!!!!
    it's all over now
    god knows
    i shall be released
    highway 61
    everyone must get stoned
    it ain't me babe
    
    he started at 8:00 and ended at 9:20 - i listened on the scrambled
    station!!
    

Adam had:

> rainy day woman #9 and #35 (correct title?)
for which Dorothy wrote:

> everyone must get stoned

But of course the REAL title is 

Rainy Day Women #12 and 35

So you were only off by 3 Adam (plus a pluralization, I thinks)

PeterT

    ]re.64
    
    they were/are all putzeseses...
    rfb

    Dylan's first song was Jokerman...
    
    Saw him the previous Thursday at Big Birch Ski Mtn (hill) in Patterson,
    NY - maybe 1500 people there.  His performance was the best I've ever
    seen him do - maybe topped by the Woodstock performance.  I, also,
    listened to the scrambled TV picture.
    
    Fredda

    I really like Dylan's performance. I've been defending him for what
    seems like years over in another notesfile. If anyone has a good
    quality tape of his set, please send me mail and I'll send you a 
    list of possible trades.

    =========================================
    Top Ten Things Overheard At Woodstock '94
    =========================================
    
    10.  "It's cool how David Crosby can sing with a mouthful of pop-tarts"
    
     9.  "Hey, you 300,000 kids get out of my yard!"
    
     8.  "Check out Al Sharpton's tie dyed jogging suit"
    
     7.  "There's somehting familiar about that old naked guy covered in
         oatmeal -- oh my God, it's Wilford Brimley!"
    
     6.  "Looks like Letterman's hair is having a bad trip"
    
     5.  "It's a three day festival of peace, love and ... Hey, which one
         of you mud covered bastards stole my bank card?"
    
     4.  "Aren't you the guy who took a leak on my tent back in '69?"
    
     3.  "Run for your lives -- Rush Limbaugh's in the mosh pit!"
    
     2.  "This must be bad acid!  I could've sworn you said Lisa Marie
         Presley married Michael Jackson!"
    
     1.  "This place is crawlin' with mud dorks"
    
    

     I just listened to the Dylan set on the way in today...
Don't think Twice, Masters of War and It's all over now
all 3 were acoustic, including mandolin and some steel guitar.

The VJ said during I Shall Be Released, flags from all over
the world and country started popping up from the crowd, very moving;
when the acoustic ended the "Mosh Pit" reappeared and 
that "Generation X is into Dylan!"

Steve

    
    so cool!  The old boy still has it!  mesmerizing performance
    was another phrase I heard also.  must have been really something
    to rivet all those people at that point in the weekend.  *sighh* 
    
    

    My neighboor went to Mudstock.  His first hand acount...

A free for all.  You could have walked right, unharrased without
a ticket.  Twice, he carried multiple cases of beer into the 
concert grounds.  The field was a "cesspool", smelling like
urine and feces.  He would have killed for dry feet.  You could
come and go from the grounds as you pleased.  Didn't see many bands
but heard most of 'em.  The rain was cold, he had a blast, but was
often (always) cold, wet and miserable.  Aerosmith was his highlight.
Drive home was no big deal.  A lot of people came and left on Sat, 
he figures a lot more than 400,000 people saw the event because of 
the constant flux of people in and out all weekend long.

Steve

What nicknames have you heard for Woodstock '94?

I've heard Woodstockade, Woodstalag 94, Mudstock and my favorite...

Woodstuck

Geoff

            
 >Woodstuck

My neighbor (Jude) had to pay some guy with a backhoe $20
to yank his Saab out of the mud in Lot G, which apparantly 
was a total mud pit.  They had bulldozers there pulling
everybody out.  Concertgoers were forced to park in remote
lots and take a bus into the concert site.  Jude had dry boots,
clothes etc. but was unable to get to his car during the shows
except via bus, 'cause nobody had any cars near the concert.
Jude said there was a 3 hour wait for a bus ride back to your car
as early as Saturday afternoon.

i heard there are lots of lawsuits pending re: woodstock.

ah, just like the '90s!

    Danielle - didn't you say you were going?  if so - do you have a
    trip report for us :-)
    

    Yup, I went :-)....I have the trip report half-written, I'll post it
    tonight or tomorrow morning....
    
    It was quite a weekend ;')....
    
    :), danielle

Good ole upstate New york....


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FYI, I just got back (on Tuesday, August 16) from 6 days of camping near the 
original Woodstock festival site.  It was definitely happening.  Some of the 
performers who played included Country Joe, Arlo Guthrie, Mountain, Canned Heat,
Physcedelic Kitchen (check them out if you can), Melanie, Richie Havens, and Joe
Walsh (The only performer so far to play at both Woodstock '94 and Greedstock). 
The music usually started around noon and lasted until sunrise (which we saw a 
couple of times).  And, of course it was free.  The atmosphere was outstanding, 
with people helping each other, very little police intervention, and a lot of 
kind buddies to meet and talk to.  I wasn't at the original in '69, but I could 
still feel the essence of what that event created.  
 
When we left Tuesday evening to come back to reality in the town of beans, the 
event was still happening.  It looks like it may still be going on throughout 
the weekend of August 20th.  For more detailed info, try calling the Sullivan 
County chamber of commerce (914-794-2211), or the Town of Bethel (914-796-7500).
People were driving their cars up onto the festival site and pitching their 
tents right there.  There is also a very kind camp ground about 1 1/2 miles from
the site that we stayed at.  It is called Woodstock on the Lake Campground 
(original, huh), and the people that run it are very cool.  I believe its number
is 914-583-6210.  

Please return e-mail with any other questions.

Go out and enjoy it.   

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JD
Your Kind Buddy

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    re Woodstock and lawsuits, interestingly enough there were over 80
    lawsuits filed as a result of the original '69 Woodstock (I got this
    bit of trivia from the latest copy of Relix, of all places).  So I
    guess it's not so 90's after all, eh?
    
    re Dylan, just have to say I thought his band was incredible; taste,
    subtlety, dynamics, they made almost every other act seem like a garage
    band by comparison.  Who are these guys?
    
    /rick

    a friend of mines wife got sidetracked on her way to her class reunion
    and ended up at woodstock (missed reunion totally) ..she had a grate 
    time, heard only the south stage performers as that's where she 
    was camped, said people were grate, esp some folks from canada 
    camped close by them. she brought back some interesting newspapers from
    NY detailing everything from Saugerties, Bethel and Freedom Fest, lots
    of pictures, lots of articles including a funny one about hippie crack.