Conference rdvax::grateful

    
              Strawberries is having a good sale this week. I picked
           up Bob Marley's box set for $32.99 yesterday, which beats
           even Noteworthy by at least $5. All their box sets are at
           least 20% off, and all cd's are on sale. Think I might stop
           back by today seeing I'll have more time to browse around.
    
                                                        ^dave
    

    re: .0
    
    You just missed REI's sale by a week or so as well. 
    

	SALE ALERT SALE ALERT!!!

	Warning Wil Robinson .. sale, sale!!!

	GOOD NOTE!  I like it!!  ;^)


	Lisa_shopper_extrodenaire

the EMS 20% off everything sale just ended last Sunday.  It had been going on
for more than a week I think.

I suggest you check out a place in Manchester, NH (if that's not too far from
you) called All Outdoors.

They have really good  stuff and amazingly they cary a lot of brands that you
don't see at the other outdoor stores (EMS, REI, Wilderness House).

But here's the best part:
  In addition to the usual NH benefit of no sales tax, All Outdoors will give
  a 10% discount to anyone who is a member of any of a variety of environmental
  or outdoor organizations, e.g. AMC, Sierra Club, Nature Conservency, etc.
  All you've got to do is ask about the discount when you check out and
  show your membership card.

Directions to All Outdoors:
Take 3 (Everett Turnpike) north to Queen City Bridge exit.
Take a right off the exit ramp then another immediate right to cross the bridge.
At first major cross street (Elm St., there's a light), take a left (north).
Follow Elm for less than a mile and watch for All Outdoors on your right.

      Craig

RE: All Outdoors 10% discount for Nature Conservency membership

	Damn, I wish I'd known that last week.  I spent a fair bit at All
Outdoors and didn't know they gave a discount.  Hmm, a 10% discount on that
purchase would have covered the minimum annual dues ($15) for the Nature
Conservency.

Mark

    North Face has a factory outlet in Lincoln. Patagonia has one
    in North Conway. Lotsa of seconds cheap(er). :-)

Service Merchandise has a 6.5' x 6.5' x (I think) 50" 2-person dome tent with
the 2 flexible fibreglass rods that make it easy to hoist, on sale for $29.99. 
I'll be buying one.  They also have a 4-lb (is this a lot?) sleeping bag for
$24.99.  Sale ends jan. 18.

I just realized that the person I was about to thank no longer works here, but
I'll say it anyway - Bob Bailey donated his old 1-person tent to me for the
V3.0 camping trip, and it has provided me with non-drip shelter for 5 or 6
camping trips.  Now that I'm upgrading to something better I feel thanks are
appropriate.

adam

    
    Adam, do you know what brand the tent is?
    
    

Wow, that was the quickest reply to a note I've ever seen!

Anyway, I'm not sure of the exact name (I'll find out tonight), but I think it
has "Camper" in it, the first of 2 words I believe.

adam

    Army Surplus here in Colo Spgs has a sh*tload of army style wool pants
    that are grate for xc-skiing.  There are 2 different thicknesses.
    
    rfb

    re: $25, 4lb sleeping bag
    
    Given the price, I'd say it's a summer-type car camping bag.

Y'mean the kind with pictures of Holly Hobby or New Kids on the Block?  :-)

re:            <<< Note 331.12 by MRNGDU::YETTO "the future is here" >>>
>                       -< Adam, get a Jetson bag!!  :-) >-

And a Smurf bag for you? :-)

It is a mild-rated bag (35-50 deg).  The one I had used for a while (until I
burned a hole through it :-() was also mild rated, yet it was never too cold in
there.  I never camped on Mt. Washington with it, though. :-)

adam

>I never camped on Mt. Washington with it, though. :-)

of course not; that requires describing one's beer with 17 adjectives ;^)

/r

I was Smurfette for Halloween once (freshman year).  Luckily no one in this
file, not even Jamie, knew me then.  :-)

Info on the tent for sale:

6.5' x 6.5' x 48" square dome tent.  Sweep-out door with screen door. 
Urethane-coated nylon taffeta is water-resistant.  Fiberglass shock-corded
poles. Rain fly and carry bag.  Sleeps 2 adults.  Mfr = Timber Top.

Apparently they can do mail order, but I don't have the full flyer with me so I
don't know details.  Are you interested in one, Phyllis?  I can get you one and
give it to you at Albany (assuming we all get tickets :-)).

adam

ps. the $25 sleeping bag is a Coleman (temp rating 35-50) and has 4 lbs. of
Insul-200 fill.

    Is there a picture? This sounds like one of those tents with the
    reeeeely small rain fly. If so, you'll get wet. :-) Don't forget 
    to seam seal it either.

re   <<< Note 331.16 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "The revolution wil not be televised" >>>

>ps. the $25 sleeping bag is a Coleman (temp rating 35-50) and has 4 lbs. of
>Insul-200 fill.


Sounds like the sleeping bags deb and i have.  They are Coleman "Trapper"
sleeping bags: flannel inside, nice and puffy, great for car camping; not
suitable for backpacking.  Our zip together for an added bonus! :-)

    
    Thanks for the offer, Adam, but I would need to see the tent first
    before I bought one.  I was mostly curious cause the price is so low.
    Too bad they don't have a picture, there's not a Service Merchandise
    store around here.
    
    

    If it's anythin like the cheap-o Camp Trails tent I once had, don't buy
    it unless you plan on camping only on sunny windless days.  The rainfly
    was more for show than fending off rain, and the coated nylon repelled
    water for the time it took it to soak through its thickness.  BTW, it
    sounds exactly the same.
    
    I don't think you can get a reasonable tent for under $100-150.  Eureka
    makes about the least expensive good tent that I know of.
    
    Just one minor rainstorm in a leaky tent will convince you that you
    didn't get a bargain.
    
    Jamie

    
    > I don't think you can get a reasonable tent for under $100-150
    
    I don't think so either, but for $30 it was worth asking about.  You
    never know!
    
    

Anderson Little is going out of business and is liquidating there huge 
inventory of suits at 75% off.

I picked up a real nice Worcestered wool suit for $79 in Auburn just in time
for my first onsite customer visit last weekend... 

The rain fly was pretty small (it only covered the very top of the dome).  I
guess I'll pass for now.  Although, I've been doing these dechead trips for a
while now with an old tent with no rain fly.  When it rains, the inside of the
tent gets damp, but it doesn't drip.  It's only until you touch it that the
rain comes through.  Surface tension, I guess.

adam

re   <<< Note 331.23 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "The revolution wil not be televised" >>>

>The rain fly was pretty small (it only covered the very top of the dome).  I
>guess I'll pass for now.  Although, I've been doing these dechead trips for a
>while now with an old tent with no rain fly.  When it rains, the inside of the
>tent gets damp, but it doesn't drip.  It's only until you touch it that the
>rain comes through.  Surface tension, I guess.

easy solution mon.  go out and buy yourself a 10' x 10' tarp and either
drape it over the tent or tie it some trees.  cost of a tarp this size
is about $14.00

re: Note 331.23 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL 
    
>The rain fly was pretty small (it only covered the very top of the dome).  
    
    Yep. That's the one I thought it was. You pretty much get what you pay
    for when you buy a tent. Like Jamie mentioned, Eureka! tents probably
    have the best price/performance ratio.

    
    Adam, 
    
    I have the cheepy $25 tent and a tarp (like JC suggests) and
    it worked just fine last year...  rain and all!  In fact, it 
    has rained just about everytime I've used it and with the
    tarp it works out fine.  It's a very tiny tent though and I
    just barely fit lengthwise - and most of you know that that
    isn't very long!!! 
    
    MJ

re:                    <<< Note 331.26 by ISLNDS::CONNORS_M >>>
    
>    tarp it works out fine.  It's a very tiny tent though and I
>    just barely fit lengthwise - and most of you know that that
>    isn't very long!!! 

This one claims it's 6.5 feet square.  I'd say you can probably squeeze inside
there. :-)  I'm not sure I'd want to set up a tarp everytime I pitched the tent
(you remember what we went through on the dechead trip to
that-town-I-can't-remember-the-name-of in Western MA?).

Thanks for the info everyone.

adam

re   <<< Note 331.27 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "The revolution wil not be televised" >>>

>I'm not sure I'd want to set up a tarp everytime I pitched the tent


you can choose the quick and easy method of just laying the tarp on top (over)
your tent making sure the front of your tent is well covered.  this is
pretty quick and easy, unless you're dealing with a hefty wind!

    
          all cd's are 25-30% off this week at lechmere's.
    
                                              ^dave

    i'm there...thanks daaavvvveee

    :-) I hope they have my copy of TFTV.
    
    

re     <<< Note 331.31 by CIVIC::ROBERTS "a blinding flash o'the obvious" >>>

>    :-) I hope they have my copy of TFTV.
 
	I've looked at lechmere's for this and have never found it.
	Let us know if ya find it.

	(Rockit has it, but, I didn't buy it)   
    

    From the 1/20/93 San Francisco Chronicle (reprinted w/out permission)
    
    Nestled in the genteel Dominican College area of San Rafael, complete
    with a huge pool and cabana, Jerry Garcia's home is a far cry from the
    "Brokedown Palace" immortalized in the Grateful Dead song.
    
    It's full of light and amenities, including a four-person elevator with
    chandelier. But since September the house has sat waiting for a buyer
    who can afford $1.4 million to live in the footsteps of the legendary
    musician. It's almost empty, but not quite--among the the boxes waiting
    for transit are seven guitars and four banjos all lined up in their
    cases.
    
    And the place is full of Garcia memories, willingly recounted by
    listing agents Esther Skolnik and Carla Himy. (Skolnik is the agent who
    tripped and took a plunge into the pool when she was showing the house
    recently.)
    
    Upstairs, in the sunny living room with crown molding, the guitarist
    sometimes played music; next door, in the banquet-sized dining room, he
    spent hours working on his computer-generated artwork that's so hot
    these days.
    
    And, outside, he invited his musical cohort to enjoy the refurbished
    pool (the second largest in Marin County, says Skolnik--"not quite
    Olympic size") and the tree-canopied back yard, with refreshment coming
    from the full kitchen in the cabana. If the guests didn't like the pool
    water, they could always hop in the large hydromassage tub.
    
    The living quarters include three bedrooms, five full baths and two
    half-baths, but it's tempting to count an immense closet as a fourth
    bedroom. (The whole house is full of walk-in storage areas.) It feels
    as if something's missing as you walk from the master bedroom onto a
    deck, and you soon realize it's because there's no hot tub in sight.
    But no need to fret--the master bath comes equipped with Jacuzzi and
    skylight.
    
    Garcia has since moved on, but his San Rafael backyard is ringed by
    four rental cottages that come with the property. If you're the lucky
    buyer, you could probably find out from one of the longtime tenants how
    it was having Jerry Garcia as a landlord.
    
    For more information: Carla Himy or Esther Skolnik, Frank Howard Allen,
    San Rafael (415) 456-1016

    lets chip in and buy it ! I vote yes :')

    i'd love to contribute, but somehow i think we'd have a hard time
    coming up with 1.4 million...
    
    maybe BEFORE so many of us got laid off...  :^/
    
    					da ve

All ya need is 14 people w/ 100g each.  Put up 10% (10g) and finiance the rest
(90g) and we'll be livin' in style in Jerry's old house.  Wonder where he is
going to live now?

    well if Jerry needs a place to crash he could rent one of the guest
    houses from us....hummmm lets see he could give us backstage passes...
    
    Chris

>    listing agents Esther Skolnik and Carla Himy. (Skolnik is the agent who
>    tripped and took a plunge into the pool when she was showing the house
>    recently.)

That's what she get's for partying on the job ;^)  The question is did the 
potential buyers join in?

    
     I'd just like to have one of those guitars he left behind :-)
    or banjo...
    
    Sean

    >tripped and took a plunge into the pool when she was showing the house
    Nothing unusual about taking a plunge in a pool after tripping!
    
    

    
        the midseason ski-sale starts today at ski-markets (all 8 loco's).
      
                                                           ^dave
    
                                                            

re            <<< Note 331.41 by BUSY::IRZA "dance out of the rain" >>>
                             -<  this just in...  >-

>            the midseason ski-sale starts today at ski-markets (all 8 loco's).
     
what is the magnitude of this sale?  10%? 25%?  50%?    
                                                            

    
     not sure.... if your in the market for any ski equipment or
    accessories i'd call them first. i just heard the tail end of 
    the ad on the radio at lunch. 
                                                    ^dave

    
    
       ski market sale is 20-56% off.
    
                             ^dave

    
    
       EMS is having their semi-annual 3 day 20% off everything in the
     store sale next weekend, march 5th, 6th, 7th! (30% off yellow tagged
     items). 
                                                   ^dave

    Great! I need about 50 pairs of wool socks for my trip. :-)

    DAMART is havin a hell of as sale now. double force long underwear tops
    and bottoms ( what they climb Mt Everest in and ski the S pole in)
    regularly 45$ each are now 9 BUCKS each! You don't get to choose the
    colors, and the catalog says slightly irregular (we have orderd
    irregulars before and can't see any diff) I ordered new ones Friday....
    
    
    rfb

    
    
       hey rfb,
    
          does sound like a helluva sale! do u have a number to call
       for damart mail order/sales catalog request?
    
                                                   thanx...^dave

    yes, ^dave, I'll try and grab it at lunch,,
    rfb

Anyone know when EMS is having its annual sale at it's headquarters? 
Typically, they sell discontinued items for fire sale prices. One year I 
got country boots for $3.00, a 150' 7 mm new perlon climbing rope for $30 
and a whole mess of other stuff. Its a sale worht checking out.

    re: EMS
    
    20% off everything? Hmmm...maybe I'll pick up the whole set of
    AT section maps. I was planning on doing without them.

    Arrgh...unfortunately the EMS' around here don't have all 10
    sections. Between the two, I'm still missing GA & ME. Might
    as well skip it. I'll just bum other people's maps. :-)

    
       Ger,
    
         i'll check the one in north attleboro and let ya know what they
       have by the end of the week as far as AT maps. i have three large
       AT maps of shanandoah, maps no. 8, 9, and 10 i think, and the
       companion AT book, are you all set with these? i won't be using 
       them this year as i'm saving my vaca time for an alaskan expidition
       next year.
    
                                                             ^dave

Ger here's a hint that'll save you some bux...


Instead of buying all those expensive AMC maps...


		...just follow the White Blazes.

							:-0   

Fog_who_is_feeling_three_iota's_better.

    That's my original plan, skip it. They're not needed. Plan B is to bum 
    a peek at other people's maps. The only thing they're good for is spotting 
    possible off-trail campsites (the good ones are listed in the '93
    handbook anyways, though), using the elevation graphs to guage travel 
    time and reading material for the commode. :-)
    
    ger

    here's the da-mart info from the sale catalog
    
    phone # 1-800-258-7300
    mens "grab a deal" 
        double force long  pant - Z48HB
          "     "     "   sleeve shirt - Z47HB
    womens "garb a deal"
        same - Z50HB
        same -- Z49HB
    
    These are regularly $42.95  EACH!  advertised as nearly
    perfect, no color choice for $8.95 EACH!!!!! can't beat this for winter
    time stuff for skiing or you nuts that winter camp. 
    If you order ask fora  catalog too, there's some real savings in this
    sale catalog.
    rfb

    BTW, I've heard of some problems people are having with da-mart
    shrinking. you CANNOT wash in hot water and YOU CANNOT DRY AT ALL!!
    I usually hang mine in the wind for a few days rather than washing after
    normal use, after a long ski weekend or hunting I do wash them %^)
    rfb

    
         fwiw, EMS N. Attleboro does have all volumes of the AT guide,
    though they only have one vol. 10, GA and NC, left in stock. 
    
                                                       ^dave              
    

    I just calle New England Backpacker to check on ski rentals. 
    they're not open now, but their hours are 10 AM to 8 PM? (I think).
    
    	And at the end of the tape, "All remaining North Face Polarguard
    sleeping bags are 20% off"
    
    Just a tidbit if your looking for a bag.
    Geoff 

re           <<< Note 331.59 by MILKWY::SAMPSON "Driven by the wind" >>>
                                 -< Cold bags >-

>    Just a tidbit if your looking for a bag.



I forgot to mention that I bought another bag - this time, a 0 degree bag
from EMS for $119.  Deb's gonna use my 20 deg. bag for when we go backpacking
together....

i'm psyched for another cardigain trip next year....

    
    
        five-packs of maxell XLII 90's are on sale at strawberries for
     
    $8.99 for the entire month of march. not bad if that's the quantity
    
    your looking for.
    
                                                    ^dave
                
    

    
       EMS is having their semi-annual (3x a year) 20% entire stock
     
     sale this weekend, aug. 27th-29th (30% off yellow tagged items). 
    
                                                          ^dave

thank you dave!  i need a therma-rest....


btw, those who have 'em:  is the 46" one sufficient?  i know my legs will
hang off it, but, that's not the part that hurts when i sleep on the ground!

>thank you dave!  i need a therma-rest....

>btw, those who have 'em:  is the 46" one sufficient?  i know my legs will
>hang off it, but, that's not the part that hurts when i sleep on the ground!

i have a regular thickness, regular length (i.e. NOT full body length)
thermarest; it was fine except for the one time that i used it in extremely
cold (i.e. about 0 degrees) weather; then i was fine except for the part of
me that was off of the thermarest - my legs were freezing

i would rather have the thin, long length (i.e. fll body length) thermarest;
but i don't want to own two; if you want the regular thickness, regular length
one, i will sell the pad and stuff-sack for 50% of what it costs new

- rich

Thermasrests:
  I've had em all:
      72" x 20" x 1"  ultra-light
      48" x 20" x 1.5" regular
      72" x 20" x 1.5" regular
      56" x 25" x 2"   camp rest

  My opinion is that that short ones are NO GOOD.  They are always un-
  comfortable.  You spend a lot of time trying to improvise a pillow so
  you can start the TR at your shoulders.  That never works too well.
  So absolutely get one that is full-length (that means 72" or more).
  If you're not worried about weight/bulk, might as well go for the really
  big, comfy camp-rest (77" x 25" x 2" or even 2.5").

  If you want to backpack with it, get the full-length regular (72"x20"x1.5").
  That's what I've got now and I think it is the best compromise.  I'd rather
  have one a bit wider, but all the wide ones are also extra thick which makes
  them too big for backpacking use (IMHO).  Also, two of the extra wide
  ones won't fit side by side in some small 2 person backpacking tents.

         Craig

    I'd have to disagree with you Craig.  I have the short one and have
    used the long ones.  Sure they might be a bit more comfortable, but I
    don't think it's worth it.  More weight, more bulk, more cost.
    
    JC, if I were you I'd consider Rich's offer.  The short ones go for
    about $45 and the longs for abiout $60.  So you could either pay $60
    for a long or *around* $25 for a short.
    
    Of course, prices are guesses and the usual "IMHO" disclaimer applies
    
    	Mike :-)

re: -.1's prices

Dunno 'bout those prices, Mike.  I think the full-length TR's cost more
than a Ben...

I got my full-sized one [not a Thermarest(tm)] for ~$70 in December 1991,
and aside from a very slow leak, it works great.  Never been cold or
unconfortable.  It aint light though @ 5-7 lbs. -- I wouldn't want to hike
to far with it.

- jeff

>Dunno 'bout those prices, Mike.  I think the full-length TR's cost more
>than a Ben...

>I got my full-sized one [not a Thermarest(tm)] for ~$70 in December 1991,
>and aside from a very slow leak, it works great.  Never been cold or
>unconfortable.  It aint light though @ 5-7 lbs. -- I wouldn't want to hike
>to far with it.
    
    OK, maybe my prices were off, but that supports my argument more.  I
    know a 3/4 thin one can be had for about $50. (mine was $45 2 yrs. ago) 
    If you're saying it's $100 bucks for a full length, and you wouldn't
    want to hike with one, than its an obvious choice unless you can spare
    the coins and are only going car-camping.
    
    	Mike
    
    FWIW, I've never been uncomfortable on mine, but then again I sleep
    like a log in most circumstances :-)
    

What I don't understand is why people bother going into the wilderness at 
all if they're going to bring "soft" things, like inflatable matresses. 

Heck, for all that extra weight and bulk, you can carry at least an extra
fifth of hard alchohol, sleep like a baby on all the pointy rocks in the
world, then walk off the bruises and bedsores the next day.  :-) 

C'mon folks, rough-it a bit.   :-)

    good point :-) :-)

    re: good point
    
    ya, if he wore a hat it wouldn't show! %^)

re .71

BOWAHAHAHAHHA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ho Ho Hee hee hee!!!!!

8-)

Well, I've decided to go with a quart of southern comfort for each hiking
trip!  seems the most economical, at least immediately!!

:-)

FYI - there a Nakamichi BX-1 cassette player for $100 in note 17201.0 of
	CLASSIFIED_ADS -- i'd probably try to get it if I were back east...

glennnn

re:           <<< Note 331.74 by ROADKL::INGALLS "Lost in Cyberspace" >>>

>FYI - there a Nakamichi BX-1 cassette player for $100 in note 17201.0 of
>	CLASSIFIED_ADS -- i'd probably try to get it if I were back east...

I'm working on it.  The guy's out this week.  I hope I'm early in the queue
(earlier than most of you, because I contacted him last Wednesday!)

adam

standard disclaimers, i have nothing to do w/ or to gain from CompUSA, just
passing along the word...

- rich

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                  New England-area CompUSA stores offering
                  additional discount to Digital employees
 
         CompUSA, a Digital reseller, will offer a special discount to 
   Digital employees at CompUSA's four New England locations Saturday
   and Sunday, Dec. 10 and 11. 
         Employees must present their Digital badge at time of purchase 
   to receive a 5 percent discount on accessories and software.  The 
   discount also applies to several hardware value packages, including 
   Digital's new Starion home computer.
         CompUSA normally sells hardware, software and accessories to
   Digital employees at 12 percent above CompUSA's cost.  The 5 percent
   discount is in addition to this pricing. 
         CompUSA's New England stores are located in Warwick, R.I., and
   in Brighton, Framingham, and Woburn, Mass.  

>         CompUSA normally sells hardware, software and accessories to
>   Digital employees at 12 percent above CompUSA's cost.  The 5 percent
>   discount is in addition to this pricing. 

I just bought a modem from Comp USA last weekend.  I was unaware of the DEC
discount.  Can I go back and get it?

adam

    2 *EXCELLENT* (!) SEATS FOR:
    
    	JEFF BECK and SANTANA
    	Wed. Aug. 16th
    	Wonderland in Toronto
    	Day pass for park incl.
    
    As far as i know , this show is sold out. Stubs for sale @ *BELOW*
    face!!  
    
    $80.00 pr. (Can.)
    
    Send mial if interested to above address.

	oh man. tronto is too far :-( why cudn't they be for grate woods
	;-) I WANNA SEE CARLOS!!!