Conference rdvax::grateful

    
    
    Well,  here's one:
    
    I'd like to hear them do more Who since they pulled out Baba O'Riley...
    
    The one I'd particularly be interested in is: Eminence Front...  Magic
    Bus would be cool too.
    
    Of course I'd also love to hear them start to cover Slipknot originals 
    :^)
    
    Tree

    
        i always wanted to hear jerry sing cripple creek. 
    
                                                     ^dave
    

 How about Bobby singing Like a Virgin?






 Jum

    Since they cover some stones - how about "Sympathy for the Devil".
    
    some others...
    A Day in the Life - beatles
    Cleaning Windows - Van Morrison
    Vince singing old blues standards
    
    :-)
    Scott g

Hows about David Burne covering The Other One...

How bout the Dead covering Take Me To the River, or Psycho Killer.

I bet the dead could *crank* on I Zimbra!!! (another by the Talking Heads)
Just picture Mickey on the drumz!   Of course, Phil would have to sing too ;-)

Ken

			

			"This Land is Your Land"  (someone has suggested this
						   already, it would be great)

		or

			"Octopuses Garden"


		or

			"Wild Mountain Honey"  

    
    I want the Garcia band to cover No Woman No Cry.
    
    

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (?)

(just got the White Album last night - inspiring)...

tim

that's it Phyllis!  Reggae!   I'd love to hear Get Up Stand Up, or
Exodus, or *any* more reggae by either band.

Ken

    Bob Marley was so great, wasn't he?

Octopus was covered in a soundcheck in the last few months...

>>Octopus was covered in a soundcheck in the last few months...

	you are kidding, aren't you?
	
	I'd really be phsyched if they 
	played that....such a positive
	song!!! 

    Beatles would be cool,
    So would some reggae (Three Little Birds)
    
    Interesting note to the David Byrne lovers, does anyone remember the
    Baba O'Riley>Tommorrow Never Knows encore from the Buffalo show this year. 
    Bob ended the song by repeating  "Same as it ever was" multiple times
    in a very Talking Headesque tone.
    
    Jeff

Yeah, Marley was incredible.  

My brother lent me a couple of videos that I really like a lot.
One is the Life of Bob Marley, the other a concert on the left coast.
Very interesting history.  I didn't realize he was in an early 60's
band with Peter Tosh with some other guy, with the matching suits
and all that.

What a creative genious.  The emotion in his music is just majic.

Ken

    
    Yeah, I picked up on that "same as it ever was" right away...
    they also did it Giant's Stadium I think?  So was it Bobby 
    that was singing that?  I say it was but not quite sure....
    
    MJ

    They did the "same as it ever was" in DC, too, and we could see Vince
    singing it on the TV screens. The whole tune would be an excellent
    cover for him but I really wanna hear a Tubes cover:-)

    In Buffalo, when we heard :Same as it ever was" The screens cut to a
    shot of Bobby singing it.  Maybe they all were.  The reason why it
    stuck out in my mind was that it was a good shot of just Bobby singing
    in the mike with the music fading out.  Maybe we'll never know for
    sure, but it would be a great cover.
    
    Jeff
    

    >> Of course I'd also love to hear them start to cover Slipknot originals 
    
    Yeah, me too ... I think "In the Pines" would be a grate Phil tune ...
    
    ... Bobbb
    

Fog, how could we forget the tune we always say we want the Dead to cover...

Sunny Day (you know, the theme from Sesame Street!)

re-1

	You guys crack me up,

	PBS dead covers aye?

	"come on a zoom zoom zooma zoom!"

	Heh heh, Dino - this time we are serious!  :-)

	You have to admit, Sunny Day has a Fun bass line!!

Pink Floyd's "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun!"

or "Astronomy Domine" ... or "Careful With That Axe Eugene" (Bob could
do the screaming at the end)

- Dave Ummagumma fan

 I always thought "Get Together" by the Youngbloods would be a good song for
the Dead to cover.





Jum

re          <<< Note 298.25 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Fare thee well now" >>>



> I always thought "Get Together" by the Youngbloods would be a good song for
>the Dead to cover.

YES.

- DC

"This Land is Your Land" was suggested by yours truely.  I think this is a
perfect song for the dead to cover as it sort of goes with the "dead"
scene.

This Land is Your Land was written as an answer to the song God Bless America.
GBA was the "military prudist" american song while TLIYL is the true american
song...

	as i rode that ribbon highway
	i saw above me
	the endless skyway
	i saw below me
	that golden valley
	this land was made for you and me.

    re .-1
    
    Yabbut, the rest of the verses (wish I could remember them, there's a
    lot) make the first sound very cynical.  Guthrie basically lists
    America's ills, and there were a lot during the dustbowl/depression
    days.  I remember one started "as I was standing in line at the welfare
    office" or something similar.
    
    Chuck Berry's "Living in the USA" is like that too.
    
    Reading through the two cover song notes, I vote for more new
    originals.  What's the cover/original ratio?  For Deadbase owners,
    what's the ratio on Sunday afternoons when Jerry was a light
    heavyweight and stood on the left side?
    
    Jamie

	off the subject almost completely ;-)...

	I really really rilly wish we could change our national
	anthem to somethin' else...I just HATE all the war imagery
	in it...when I was watching the Olympics and someone
	from the US was standing up on the winner's platform
	with tears streaming down his/her face and mouthing the
	words..."...the bombs bursting in air..."...yechhh....

	Debess

>    originals.  What's the cover/original ratio?  For Deadbase owners, 
    
Up to 1989, The dead have played 413 different tunes, 147 can be attributed to
at least one band member, or Robert Hunter, John Barlow, or McGannahan
Skjellyfetti. So, the actual ratio is 1 original for every 2.80952381 covers. 

Also, that doesn't count any traditionals which the dead have really made 
uniquely there own, like CR&S, Dark Hollow, On the Road again, Peggy-o etc...

Of course, this data is meaningless, since the sampling is from Deadbase IV
which, as we all know, is _way_ obsolete.  :-)

>    what's the ratio on Sunday afternoons when Jerry was a light 
>    heavyweightand stood on the left side? 

That info is in Deadbase III, not IV or V...  (really)

    Debess, that's not really off the subject.  "This Land Is My Land" has
    been suggested a number of times as an alternative to "The Star
    Spangled Banner", and I couldn't agree more.  I think it's a fine song
    for a national anthem - one we can sing, and one we can be proud of.
    I think Arlo would get a kick out of it too...
    
    Anybody seen "Bound For Glory" on tape anywhere?  I've been looking
    around to rent it, but to no avail.
    
    tim
    

    My vote goes to "America The Beautiful."  "The Star Spangled Banner" is
    a lousy song, with its tune lifted straight from another song.
    
    re .30
    
    Thanks!  That's nearly 3:1!!
    
    Jamie

 Does anybody remember the 86 World Series (though we would rather not) game
 at Fenway when Smokey Robinson did a combination of the Star Speckled Bannaner
 and America the Beutiful?  I've heard it a few times since then and it still
 sends shivers up me spine...


 I agree ATB should be the National Anthem..or the Enrico Pollozzo's rendition
 of the SSB :-)





Jum

I think it should be "Imagine".

And you thought I was a pessimistic realist.

Fog_the_utopianistic_optomist.

Didn't "This Land Is Your Land" originally have a verse, very rarely
included anymore, that was basically a rejection of capitalism and
a call for socialism?

I think that's an underlying idea of the song, anyway.

-dc

    I kind of like the Star Spangled Banner, but for personal reasons,
    rather than the imagery invoked by the song.  Those reasons shall
    remain obscure ;-)  But remember, it was the US that was being 
    attacked at that point, and the central image is that we survived
    the assault.  Now whether we can survive the current assault on 
    our liberties remains to be seen.  I'm not too sure I feel 
    "America the Beautiful" applies anymore, after what has been done
    to the land.  Of course there still are some beautiful areas out
    there, but we certainly don't all live in harmony with the land.
    This Land is Your Land, maybe.  
    
    PeterT
    

    RE: STar Spangled Banner being a "cover"
    
    I'm pretty sure (could be wrong) that America the Beautiful, the
    music, is copied exactly from the British national anthem.  It seems
    there was a lot of that in Colonial America. Not many great composers
    lived in New England.
    
    Jeff
    
                                                       

    re .-1
    
    Ha!  I had the foresight to look this up and hoped that someone would
    ask so I could parade my knowledge of useless facts.  I don't know
    about AtB, but "The Star Spangled Banner" tune was lifted from a
    then popular song called "To Anacreon in Heaven."  At the Smithsonian
    Museum of American History they display the original flag that flew
    over Fort McHenry (? maybe Sumter) and inspired Francis Scott Key to
    write the poem.  They also play a version of the song as it would have
    sounded ca. 1812, with a much different tempo and phrasing.
    
    Despite all this research, I forgot to find out who started the War of
    1812.  Anyone know?
    
    Jamie

RE:            <<< Note 298.37 by MR4DEC::JHINE "Estimated Prophet" >>>
                              -< More Covers!!!! >-

       
   > I'm pretty sure (could be wrong) that America the Beautiful, the
   > music, is copied exactly from the British national anthem.  It seems
    


   Nope..you may be thinking of "My country tis of thee" which is a musical
   mirror of "God save the Queen".  The lyrics for ATB were written by a woman
   who's name escapes me now (not sure who wrote the music).  The first stanza
   of ATB was written after the author had been to the top of Pikes Peak in
   Colorado and she witnessed the beauty of the mountains and the waves of grain
   in the plains of Eastern Colorado (before Colorado Springs became a large
   town.



 Jum



    
                                                       

    Kate Smith ? or is she the lady that sang it before Philly Flyer hockey
    games in the mid 70s......
    
    Chris

RE: .38
>    Despite all this research, I forgot to find out who started the War of
>    1812.  Anyone know?

	In 1812, Britain had been at war with France for over 20 years 
(discounting a few month lull while the Treaty of Amiens held in 1806).  The
was was consuming much of the resources of both countries, and Britain, which
depended heavily on its navy was short of sailors.  They developed the practice
of stopping American ships on the high seas and conscripting any sailors they
could plausibly claim had once been British.  "Once an Englishman, always an
Englishman."

	Using this as an excuse, and figuring that Britian would be too busy 
with France to do much about it, some congress-critters looked at this as a
chance to grab Canada away from Britain, and declared war.

	The U.S. Navy did pretty well against the Royal Navy, but the land
battles were less sucessfull.  Notably, the British invaded Washington, and
burned the White House.  After two years of this, both sides got tired of it,
and Britain agreed to stop impressing U.S. sailors (their war against Napoleon
was wrapping up), and the U.S. agreed to leave Canada alone.  Both sides claimed
victory.

Mark

    No ... Kate Smith sang "God Bless America", which is not to be confused
    with "My Country Tis of Thee", "America the Beautiful", or "The Star
    Spangled Banner".
    
    Has Jerry ever covered "John Henry" ??  Bet him and Grisman could do a
    real nice job of it ...
    
    				... Bobbb
    

 Kathryn Lee Bates wrote the lyrics to America the Beautiful...





 With proper thanks to a respondant in another conference..




Jum

re:           <<< Note 298.42 by CUPTAY::BAILEY "Season of the Winch" >>>

>    Has Jerry ever covered "John Henry" ??  Bet him and Grisman could do a
>    real nice job of it ...

	Sounds awfully familiar. I'd say yes...

	Ken    

    re:    <<< Note 298.44 by MONTOR::HANNAN "Beyond description..." >>>
   >  re:   <<< Note 298.42 by CUPTAY::BAILEY "Season of the Winch" >>>
    >> Has Jerry ever covered "John Henry" ??  Bet him and Grisman could do
    >> a real nice job of it ...
    
    >  Sounds awfully familiar. I'd say yes...
    >
    > Ken
    
    There's something on either Almost Acoustic or Garcia/Grisman that has
    a line in it someplace about "this is the hammer that killed John
    Henry"  though the particulars escape me now.  Could this be what 
    you're thinking of Ken?  I don't think they've done the traditional
    John Henry though.
    
    PeterT
    

    >> Has Jerry ever covered "John Henry" ??  Bet him and Grisman could do
    
    >There's something on either Almost Acoustic or Garcia/Grisman that has
    > a line in it someplace about "this is the hammer that killed John
    > Henry"

	"this is the hammer..." is from the song "Spike Driver Blues"
	by...  then name escapes me now and I even have an album of
	his.

	There is another traditional song that tells the story of
	John Henry and his contest with the steam driven spike driver.
	I don't know the name exactly ("Ballad of John Henry" ?) or
	even if it has an exact title.

	Bob

	Could be... I know I've heard some Jerry tunes containing
	"John Henry"...

	Ken

    errr, the dead HAVE played the Star Spangled Banner, at Red Rocks on
    kazoos.....don't think they ever attempted it again though. 
    
    rfb

they played a bit of "Your A Grand Old Flag" during one of the shows which was
broadcast on the Grateful Dead Orgy this past winter; I don't remember what
show, but I have it on tape at home (I seem to recall it being in 1972, perhaps
in Texas?)

- rich

Guess what!  the Dead (with a guest) _have_ covered John Henry.

Yep - Dead and Dylan, the Santa Monica studio outtakes.  There's a nice
mandolin on that cover, too.  Bob (the "original" one ;-) : Zimmy) sings.  
They all also do "Oh Boy" (by Buddy Holly/Hardin/whoever-the-heck-wrote-it!)

All this cover-age has got me wonderin'.  I'd be curious to see a graph (crude
ASCII OK) charting time (by year) horizontally, and # of songs in repertoire
(by covers/originals) vertically.  I'd expect a big jump in 1973/74 and flat 
spot in 1975!

Josh

re -.1, Oops, wrong again.  The Dead/Dylan song I was thinking of is
"John Harding" not "John Henry".

:-)  have any more information for us today Josh?  :-)

you son of a silly person you!  (Scott that's an hysterical line!!)

RE: The War of 1812 and who startted it. Why, Bill & Ted of course!


Ted:	"Whoa, whose that?"

Bill:	"Why, that's Napoleon, the short, dead dude from our history review"

Ted:	"Oh Yeah."

Have the Dead ever covered Mr. Tambourine Man before (I don't have
my Deadbase dammit with me)?  Sure would be nice.

- DC

    Dunno, but I have a tape of William Shatner's cover of Mr Tambourine
    Man...
    
    gary

 I used to have  a paper 45 from a Mad Magazine with "its a gas" on it :-)






 Jum

re:      <<< Note 298.56 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "gohangasalamiimalasagnahog" >>>

> I used to have  a paper 45 from a Mad Magazine with "its a gas" on it :-)

I have this on tape!  I taped it from a friend's Soundpage (tm).  Came out
around 1978/79 - I was in 8th grade.

adam

ps. good background music, if you can get past the belches!

 Came out earlier than that...I had it when *I* was in high school (back
when they didn't teach history :-)

    re .-1
    
    Jum, when you were in high school, history was taking place!
    

 :-)

      I think the Dead should play "Dead Flowers"....Phil should sing it...
    
                         :-) daveB
      

    Didn't know where else to put this. Jimmy Buffet's new cd is out and he
    does a cover of Uncle John's Band. Sounds pretty good with some steel
    drums.
    
    Chris

    I forgot he was on Letterman monday (I think) anyone see it ? 
    I also hear he will be on Larry King live this week !
    
    I wanna see Buffett, anyone got a few lawn ticket for me....PLEASE !
    
    Chris