Conference rdvax::grateful

    subdudes are from Boulder Colo. They opened for Little Feat last year
    in Denver's Fiddlers Green. Albums better than them in concert, but the
    "drummer" was interesting....he played nothing but somekind of big
    Tom-tom looking thing, but it sounded rather like a full drum set???
                                                                        rfb

I haven't bought a lot lately, most recently The Kentucky Headhunter's first
CD, The Last Days of the Fillmore CD, some Marcia Ball...that's about it I think





Jim

    I hit a few yard sales last weekend and bought 9 lps 1 CD
    
    LPs
    
    Dylan - Infidels
    Tom Rush - Tom Rush
    Tom Rush - Greatest hits
    CSNY - Am Dreams
    George Harrison - concert for Bagladish (sp?)
    George Harrison - All things must Past
    Various Art. - In Harmony 2 (Dr John doing Splish Splash, Bruce
    				Springsteen Santa's coming to town)
    Dead - Wake of the Flood (in mint cond.)
    Yardbirds - live from the Marquee club 1964
    
    CD
    
    Randy Newman - (his latest effort, has It Money That Matters)
    
    New stuff from record/CD stores
    
    Paul McCartney - Unplugged (1 CD & 3 LPs)
    
    
    Chris

    John Mayalls new album...er cd
    Blues Travelers new cd
    French,Firth,Kaiser, and Thompson....(Henry Kaiser and Richard
    Thompson)
    Progress Report...James Williams Sextet
    The Cont Meets the Duke....Duke Ellington and Count Basie Orchestras
    Todd Rundgrens newey (wife bought this)
    almost bought a Segal/Scwall reunion cd as well but no $$$$
    
    
    rich

My latest non-Dead CDs...

"Which Dreamed It" by Three Merry Widows.  This is a five member band from St. 
Louis which a buddy of mine manages.  They are outstanding, and play a fairly 
unique style of music the band calls psychadelic folk.  The album can be had 
at Tower Records.  If I had to compare them to anyone, I'd say they're 
somewhere beetween Edie Brickel and R.E.M

Also picked up The London Howlin' Wolf Sessions.  This blues album was recorded 
in 1971 and features legendary blues singer/songwriter Howlin' Wolf backed up 
by Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood, Bill Wyman, and Charlie Watts.  The CD quality 
is as good as any out there and the music is HOT.

Scott

I most recently scored Albert King's "King of the Blues Guitar".

Lots of good stuff on this CD, however, I can't really comment because I have
not listened to it enough (never home these daze).

I have lots and lots on my "to buy" list!

not that new (3 yrs) but Nervous in Suburbia by the Crazy 8's

    I heard the Subdudes the other day on the local radio station.  Neat
    stuff - New Orleans style...the only time in recent memory I've heard a
    tune I liked that included (what sounded like) a tuba.
    
    Recent musical software:
    
    Storms - Nanci Griffith (kinda C&W sounding, but really folk)
    I Will Stand Fast - Fred Small (excellent acoustic folk)
    
    Otherwise, I'm sorta in a doldrums - the folk stuff is nice, but I
    think it's time to check out something rowdier.  These two are both a
    few years old too - so I'm definitely interested in what people have to
    add to this note...
    
    tim
    

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    >
    >Blues Travelers new cd
    
    The new Blues Traveler CD is out???  What is it called?  I liked the
    first one a lot - I can't wait to hear the new one.
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry

    Jerry ...it might be the first one ....it was new for me ...
    
    
    rich

    I picked up from Noteworthy:
    
    Paul McCartney - unplugged
    REM		   - Green
    Smithereens    - 11
    One From The Vaults 
    Carly Simon Live Greatest Hits (for the wife)
    
    I'm really enjoying Paul McCartney's unplugged.  I'm not a PM fan
    (except for Beatles) but I enjoy this.  He doesn't do much solo PM
    works.  He does some other artist covers.  It's a very enjoyable CD!!
    
    OFTV is excellent!!
    
    dave

Ragged Glory, by Neil Young & Crazy Horse ... great grungy guitar ... reminds
me of "Live Rust."

    Recent purchase of Bob Marley and the Wailer(BABYLON BY BUS) live in
    europe STIR IT UP AND EXODUS  must be heard.
    Also NIELS RUGGED GLORY back to the days of feedback distortions...
    

    >Recent purchase of Bob Marley and the Wailer(BABYLON BY BUS) live in
    >europe STIR IT UP AND EXODUS  must be heard.
    
I second that!!!!

I've had Babylon By BUs for a while.  It has to be one of the finer sounding
CDs I have.

Ask my neighbors... they sometimes bang on the wall when Iplay it... so,
i usually take that to mean "turn it up!"

			:-)

I just given one of Frank Zappa's "beat the boots" CDs (1974 Notre Dame).  
What Frank has done is taken 8 bootleg recordings and released them on CDs
without "cleaning up" the recordings at all.  In other words he's bootleging 
bootlegs.  The quality is marginal, but the gitar is amazing. 

	I hear tell that today is the release day of Clapton's
	new recording - "24 Nights"

	Debess

>	I hear tell that today is the release day of Clapton's
>	new recording - "24 Nights"

I heard one cut off this new release on the [gasp] radio the other day, "watch
yourself" ... sounded nice and bluesy.

anyone get it yet?
how much $$ is it going for?

    I've seen it for $29.95.

>    I've seen it for $29.95.

Ah, the price of highly commercial material.  And to think that I paid only
$15.00 for the double dead "one from the vault" and $18.00 for the new JGB...

It'll come down eventually....  anyone know how much music is on it ?

    I called Strawberries last nite for a price and was told 24.95 for the
    CD and 19.95 for the Video (minus two songs that the CD has) no tape
    price was given or LPs if they released LPs for that matter. I thought
    the 24.95 was high but I guess thats the sale price ! Ill be getting
    bot the Video and CD (Claptonfreak that I am).......
    
    Chris

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Track listing for EC's new album, entitled '24 Nights':

Badge
Running On Faith
White Room
Sunshine of Your Love
Watch Yourself
Have You Ever Loved A Woman
Worried Life Blues
Hoodoo Man
Pretending
Bad Love
Old Love
Wondeful Tonight
Bell Bottom Blues
Hard Times
Edge of Darkness

And even better news - there's an accompanying live video!!!! Psyched!!!

alan

    Lechmere has it for about $25, but all rock cds are on sale this week,
    $25 off, so it's about $19.
    
    Scott_waiting_for_the_jazz_and_folk_sale (although I did buy a bunch
    yesterday at the sale price)
    

    This is a live album, correct?
    
    dave

    Live. Recorded over 24 nights (hence, the title) over the course
    of 2 years at, I think the Royal Albert Hall.

    
    In NYC, the CD is $25.99 and the cassette $18.99
    
    I can't wait to pick it up!  
    
    :-)

	Eric Clapton and Friends	-	24 Nights

	I'll start with the packaging, its not so great. The only good 
thing is its in a Jewel box. The art work is different but I would have 
like to seen a real picture of EC and the band(s) for the cover art. 
The booklet is also very sparse for info and pictures (three black and 
white pictures, more reason to buy the video).

	For the normal fan I would guess the list of performers for each 
set of bands is alright but for the obsessed fan (me) its very lacking. 
By that I mean I would have also like to know what night each song was 
recorded. I also just can't believe the blues line up, it must be true but
it just doesn't sound like the three guitarist (Guy, Cray, Clapton) playing
all together on some of the three tracks but maybe thats the mix or my ears.
(a Boot I have from one of the '90 blues show is broken down very nicely 
Clapton played for about 40 minutes, then Cray joined and lead the band 
for another 40 minutes, then Guy joined in and fronted the band for over 
an hour ! I'd like to see this come out on CD :'), to bad Clapton didn't 
like what he heard from the '90 run on tape.)
The big screw up with the booklet (its really not a booklet, its a fold out)
is a typo, the note states track 1-5 are the 9 piece band tracks and tracks 
6-8 are the orchestra tracks (actually there are only 7 tracks on the 
second CD, tracks 1-4 are the 9 piece and 5-7 are the orchestra)

	OK, now song selection, I like the songs on the both CDs but hey
these 2 CDs could hold a little over 140 minutes of music ! both CDs have 
under 54 minutes each :'( thats less then 2 hours, and for $24.99 on sale
I'm sorry but thats not such a great deal :'(. If I were asked what other
songs could have been added to the set........(I float off into dream here)
Layla with the orchestra for one, it would bring tears to your eyes even
if your sick of hearing Layla ! (how do I know ? I also have a boot with
the orchestra, and the concerto for guitar and orchestra is also very 
mind altering) also more Blues would have been great.

	Now let get to whats on the CDs, Badge opens the 1st CD with a
very bouncy guitar,keys,bass, and drum line up, simple and to the point, 
just how Badge should be. Running on Faith is such a fine song from the 
Journey man CD, it is done very well live. White Room heats up the tempo
of the CD with all its raw power. Sunshine of your Love cranks out the end
of the four tracks from the 4 piece band of Clapton,Phillinganes,East, 
and Ferrone. Now the Blues set starts with a very tasteful Watch Yourself
with Eric singing (wonder why Buddy didn't do a verse or two) then Eric's
life in a song "Have you Every Loved a Woman" this blows away the CROSSROADS
6 CD set cut to bits and pieces ( you need headphones or very understanding 
neighbors for this track ! as Buddy might say "Play it so yous can smell it" 
Whoa !!!!! )then a sweet "Worried Life Blues" I swear you can hear God 
tapping his foot to this cut. The final track of the blues set and the 1st 
CD is "Hoodoo Man" which is done with a slightly different line up then 
the other three tracks (note end of review)and gets down right funky with 
the boogie piano and harp, just fine. Like I said before a complete CD of 
BLUES would have been worth $24.99 alone !

	CD 2 starts out with the 9 piece band, Pretending begins with a short
piano tune up into a rock hard crunch, just strait forward. Bad Love heats up
the CD a little with Eric's fine tone (maybe its me but with all those people
on stage it takes something away from the songs strength) other wise a hot 
version. Old Love I don't think can be screw by anything, to bad Cray didn't
add his touch to this track (he co-wrote this song with EC) no telling what
might have happened to this 13 minute track, pure Clapton magic. 
Wonderful Tonight is OK but this should have been one of the cuts with 
the orchestra not the nine piece band, Katie Kissoon didn't add much to it 
for my taste either, this is where Layla should have been put in anyway :').
Now the tuning up begins, The National Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by
Michael Kamen swarm in with Bell Bottom Blues, close your eyes and be whisked
away by the strings, and Kissoon really is wonderful here ! Hard Times, the Ray
Charles tune, is nicely done but I would have thought it would belong in the
blues format. The tease for anyone who has heard the Concerto for Guitar and
Orchestra (and wished to see it here) is Edge of Darkness (I thought it was
Lethal Edge of Darkness, even Eric couldn't figure out the name on the boot)
a very haunting song and Eric really sounds so soulful and colors the picture
your mind paints, the song was composed by Kamen and Clapton for a BBC TV 
program, until it kicks in with the power of the 65+ member orchestra and band.
Mind boggling to say the least.

	Well thats it, I might not sound like I like this package but for
a crazed lover of Clapton music I expect a lot but I'm very pleased with this
two CD wonder. I do know that the Concerto with be released but not the live
over 20 minute offering from the Feb. 10th 1990 debut just a studio offering 
which will be very nice anyway I'm sure.

here is the list of tracks and who played on them:

CD 1

1 Badge 6:51
2 Running on Faith 6:49
3 White Room 6:10
4 Sunshine of your Love 9:07

EC Guitar & vocals
Greg Phillinganes Keyboards & vocals
Nathan East Bass & vocals
Steve Ferrone Drums
(Phil Collins Tambourine on Sunshine of your Love)

5 Watch Yourself
6 Have You Every Loved a Woman
7 Worried Life Blues

EC Guitar & vocals
Buddy Guy Guitar
Robert Cray Guitar
Johnnie Johnson Piano
Richard Cousins Bass
Jamie Oldaker Drums

8 Hoodoo Man

EC Guitar & vocals
Jimmie Vaughan Guitar
Johnnie Johnson Piano
Jerry Portnoy Harmonica
Joey Spampinto Bass
Jamie Oldaker Drums
Chuck Leavall Keyboards

CD 2

1 Pretending
2 Bad Love
3 Old Love
4 Wonderful Tonight

EC Guitar & vocals
Phil Palmer Guitar
Greg Phillinganes Keyboards & vocals
Chuck Leavall Keyboards
Nathan East Bass & vocals
Steve Ferrone Drums
Ray Cooper Percussion
Katie Kissoon Backing Vocals
Tessa Niles Backing Vocals

5 Bell Bottom Blues
6 Hard Times
7 Edge of Darkness

The National Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Mutual Kamen
EC Guitar & vocals
Phil Palmer Guitar
Greg Phillinganes Keyboards & vocals
Alan Clark Keyboards
Ed Shearmur Keyboards
Nathan East Bass & vocals
Steve Ferrone Drums
Ray Cooper Percussion
Katie Kissoon Backing Vocals
Tessa Niles Backing Vocals
Chuck Leavall Keyboards on Edge of Darkness

    Looks like I'll have to be satisfied with the BBC tapes (and very
    satisfying they are!). They also missed out on an excellent version of
    "Can't Find My Way Home" with Nathan East hitting some real high notes.
    I bet even Steve Winwood would have been impressed.
    
    I read somewhere (prob the recent Rolling Stone) that the "Concerto"
    debuted in 1991. Hah! It was the second set of the '90 RAH show.
    
    BTW, is there any interest in a tree for tapes of the two '90 Clapton
    shows? I believe all those in circulation around here came from my
    tapes. I could get it going after the Garden trees are done.
    
    Scott
    

I'd be interested in a tree of the two '90 Claptons.

peace,
t!ng

    You got one T!ng (the Blues), and that did filter its way west from
    Scott. anywho, I was thinking this morning that Clapton should have
    released a 4CD package with a CD for each band lineup, I would care
    about repeats one bit ! or the price for that matter....:')
    
    Chris

    Thanks for the review Chris!
    
    I also have the '90 boots and the quality is so increadable on these
    that I am having a hard time deciding if I should get 24 Nights.
    Like Scott Abbot said I will probably stick with the tapes. $25 is 
    mucho $$ for a two CD package IMO.
    
    :-)
    Scott g

    followup: I wouldN'T care about repeats or $$$$$
    
    Chris typo man

Scott,
	I'd love to participate in a tree.  (Leaf or as a branch copying from 
hi-fi VHS.)  Please let me know if this takes off!

Bill

    Scott,
    
    I would be interested in the EC tapes.  Leaf only, though.  Let me know
    if you get it together.
    
    -jer

	I checked out the CD at Lechmere's last night.  They have it on sale
for $22.49.  I did not buy it... the content of the CD is pretty standard;
I would have liked to see more "off the beaten track" songs... and, for the
price, I would have liked it to be 2 73 minute CDs!

An EC tree?  Where?! Where?!  Sign me up!

I would prefer to be a branch (have Nak's, will dup! ;),
but would settle for being a leaf!

	-Todd

I'm up for a tree too!!!!!!!


Kevin the branck/leaf   ;')

I have to agree, an EC tree?? Sign me up.

:-Chuck

    	Well, for those of you that are completest, get this CD, why ?
    
    1. DDD
    2. I'm guessing here but maybe 75% of the songs are from the '91 run.
       meaning that some of the songs are not on the tapes you've signed
       up to get. Badge, Watch Yourself, Hoodoo Man are not on the tapes
       and all the blues tracks are from the '91 run I'm sure. Edge of
       Darkness is from the '91 run. Bell Bottom Blues & Hard Time are on
       the '90 tapes but I'm not sure if they are from that show.
    3. The sound is wonderful and it will fit nicely on a 110 metal tape
       for the car and work (thats if you don't have a portable CD player)
    
    
    	Chris

The last  couple issues of Rolling Stone have had great covers - the latest 
has Jerry on the cover and a pretty good interview (it's where he made his 
comments about not understanding where all the teenage fans are coming from, 
you really should read it in context IMO).  the one before that has Eric 
Clapton on the cover.  Good interview - he talks about the death of SRV and 
his son and about "24 Nights".  kind of gave me the feeling that he didn't 
have much control over it, other than final editor.  He was asked "why not 
Layla?" and he didn't even know his has never released a live version of 
Layla!  Way too long for me to type in but I'd reccomend readin it if you're 
an EC fan.

Scott

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UPROAR::WEIGHTM "Mike Weight"                        56 lines  13-OCT-1991 13:07
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Having yet to hear this release I was interested in the comments in .250  
particularly regarding the packaging as, by coincidence, I had just 
received (by post) some info about a 'limited edition'.  The following 
info comes from the promo literature:

"To celebrate this record-breaking run of shows Genesis Publications is 
soon to make available a superb limited edition boxed set.  This edition 
will be strictly limited to 3,500 numbered copies signed by Eric Clapton 
and Peter Blake. Advance orders are now being taken."

"This limited edition consists of:-

- A scrap-book quarter-bound in bonded leather featuring sketches by 
Peter Blake and rare unseen photos ..........( details omitted)

- A 2nd volume of Commentary written by Derek taylor.  Derek travelled 
with Eric and his band for rehearsals in Dublin.  In this volume he 
reports on his stay with the band and on the shows at The Albert Hall and 
on the after-show party.  64 pages (210mm x 148mm).

- The 2 CD set of live recorings plus the following extra tracks amde 
available with this limited edition:

	No Alibis
	I Shot The Sherriff
	Layla - The Orchestral Introduction

- Loose items of memorabilia including 4 copies of Eric's guitar picks, a 
back-stage laminated pass, button badge and guitar string.

- All these items are produced to the highest standards and housed in a 
superbly designed colourful solandar box (what is that ??)

- Each copy is individually autographed by Eric Clapton and Peter Blake - 
the well known pop artist renowned for his design of the Beatles Sgt 
Pepper album cover.  These are real signatures.

Special Pre-publication prices:

	UK & Rest of the World (except USA) 218 pounds + 7 pounds p&p
	USA $375 plus $20 shipping.
	Copies to be made available in time for Christmas."


Perhaps (a cynical view?) this is why the standard packaging is so 
spartan!  For anyone interested and with money to burn, Genesis 
Publications are in Surrey, England, Tel: 0483 37431 (from the UK).

Let me state here that I have no connection whatsoever with this Company, 
I think I must be on a mailing list from teh time my Wife was a member of 
the fan club - since closed down but it was a good way of guaranteeing 
tickets for EC concerts !

But I thought this info might be of interest.

Mike

    has anyone heard of a cd by a group called "Litle Village"? or know
    if they have ever toured or will tour?
    
    The band consists of Nick Lowe, John Hiatt, Ry Cooder, and Jim
    Keltner...
    think this would be a fun band and any information would be
    appreciated.
    
    rich

    Browsing thru Rockit Records today (to get Neil Young's Arc-Weld - 35
    minutes of bonus feedback!!) I saw a cd by "The Good Old Boys", on the
    Dead's label. Anyone heard of this? I think Dave Nelson was in the
    band, and lots of the tunes were the Old And In The Way style.
    Copyrights on it were 1975 and 1991, and Jerry Garcia was mentioned as
    a guest artist.
    
    Weren't they in the Blues Brothers movie? ;-)
    
    Scott
    

speaking of Blues Brothers it was on Sunday morning ... what a way to
start a day ... especially one I planned to stay home and get things
done!  And yes, the Good Old Boys were in the movie.

I heard on 'BCN this morning that the Blues Brothers is going to be on
either tonight, tomorrow night or Sat. night (I forget which :^/ check yer
TV guide).

	HMM MMM MMM MMM MMM MMM MMM ... weeh!
	Whadaya what for nothin'?
	A rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrubah bisCUIT?
	Bow dow doo dee doo dooo............
	ELWOOD!

    yes to night on 38 WSBK (Boston) home of the ... ah the .... some
    hockey team from around these parts......
    
    Chris

RE Scott Abbot and Patti SMith
    
>    I'm getting back into her after not listening to her albums in a long
>    time. She's my girlfriend's most favorite person. She has all her
<    albums, lots of boots, her poetry (long before she started singing),
>    pictures of her all over the place. Another song I like is "Piss In the
>    River".
 
Do you all listen to EASTER?  If not you have to play it!  Funny thing - 
Patti Smith is Rae's fave Rock and Roll ...er Rock and Roller !  yeah
that's it.  That one side all the way thru with is awesome...

and boots (lots of em)?  hmm I'm being teased :)

more on this later maybe .... I gotta run and get some stuff done.

bob

ps.  hey you folks - please don't digress about bands in just any ole note- 
use this one...why not?  I like to look here and maybe think about things 
to buy when I don't have anything in mind (yea sure,  happens all the time,
that I don't have anything in mind).  Especially for new music reviews.

I was checking out CDs the other day and noticed a new one that is a 
compilation of Elton John/Bernie Taupin(sp?) songs done by different 
artists, similar to Deadicated.  Anyone have this or hear any of the 
tracks??  I almost picked it up, but thought I'd try to get a review first.
Can't remember who plays on it.

Thanks,
Scott

    madman across the water by Bruce Hornsby is the only cut i've heard
    from the album...  i like the way he does the tune but i can't comment
    on the rest of the disc...
    
    					da ve

re:  john/taupin tribute disk

I've heard The Who doing Saturday Nights (all right for fighting) which
sounded like it shoulda been a who tune.  Kate Bush doing Rocket man is
very good too!  I heard the Hornsby cut and a cut by Rod Stewart....

that's all I heard from it and fwiw the "music reviewers" in the globe
panned it saying the Rod Stewart cut was the best and that the rest
of the disk was pretty much missing the mark.

bob

>that's all I heard from it and fwiw the "music reviewers" in the globe
>panned it saying the Rod Stewart cut was the best and that the rest
>of the disk was pretty much missing the mark.

That probobly means it's good and worth checking out.  8^)

Thanks folks,
Scott

    If you just want the Kate Bush track, there's an import cd single out
    (at an impost cd single price) of her doing Rocket Man, Candle in the
    Wind, and an instrumental. If I can find one for under $10 I'll buy it.
    
    BTW, I went to a record show Sunday and bought over 20 albums for less
    than the price of 3 cds. Everything I bought was either $1 or $3 (even
    the double David Bowie Live was only $1), and the most I paid was $5
    for a Dylan boot. So, if you still use your turntable these some good
    bargains out there.
    
    Scott
    

Yes Scott,  it sometimes seems to work that way :) Globe Panning a movie
or disk means we should love it :)


re: Scott 
>    the double David Bowie Live was only $1), and the most I paid was $5
Check out that keyboard player! :) The one the only - ROGER POWELL!

oh well, back to work,
bob

    Hey Bob, do you have Roger Powell's Cosmic Furnace?  I've never seen a
    copy of it (fairly rare album) but a guy I work with says it's the
    greatest thing since sliced bread.  I've found some rare Todd albums
    for cheap prices - like a copy of "The Ballad of Todd" (the one with
    him sitting at a piano with a noose around his neck) for only a buck. I
    have the other Runt album but it's a counterfeit.
    
    Scott
    

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>    Hey Bob, do you have Roger Powell's Cosmic Furnace?  I've never seen a
>    copy of it (fairly rare album) but a guy I work with says it's the

Yeah,  I have a copy of that,  took me a while to hunt it down and it's in
great condition (as I recall).  Those were the days, I believe, when Roger 
was a demo person for ARP synths.  He used to tour shopping malls and music
stores giving demos :)  Definately showing you what he could do with a 
polyphonic synth (he was doing the touring and 1st solo lp when polyphonic
synths were big bucks and brand new!).

He's got another one called "Air Pockets" that's good too.  While I wouldn't
call either of them the greatest thing since sliced bread - both are good.

It's hard to find those 2 - "runt" and "the ballad of todd r".   Rhino,
I believe has since rereleased all of them on CD.  

and btw,  how could I tell if my copies are counterfiet?  I think they were
on the old AMPEX label???  

I have a Nazz/Todd/Utopia discography and also a list of Utopia personnel
appearances and production jobs that I've been compiling for quite some time 
if you're interested (I'm sure the latter is by no means complete).

bob

    I'll be entertaining a few guests this weekend and need suggestions
    for newly released non-Dead CD's to buy for the occaision.
    
    I've been thinking of the following:
    
    Achtung Baby - U2
    New York Rock and Soul Review (kinda like Steely Dan)
    Thieves - Blues Traveler
    
    Any ideas?

Stevie Ray Vaughn - The Sky is Crying

The new Elton John Deadicated-type album

>Stevie Ray Vaughn - The Sky is Crying

Yeah Ger,  Scott mentioed it again - if you like SRV then this is a can't miss 
disk.

As for the "New York Rock and Soul Review" - well let's just say one of
my least favorite singers is Michael McDonald .... :)  but I do like
what I've heard (even if they do let him sing :)

>    Thieves - Blues Traveler
I bought this one - it has a hard edge to it and at times sounds an awful
lot like Living Color (no kiddin'!).  I like it.

I want to get Achtung Baby - after the last one I wasn't too thrilled.
When I heard parts of this one it made me want to buy it.

John Lee Hooker's last one (Mr. Lucky) is good!! There is a cut on there called
"On the Waterfront" where John Lee and Van Morrison sing together - well that's
the best bit of muisc I've heard in ages - the rest is good too!  Van and
John?  SOULFUL!!! (but just for the one cut).  

I've bought a couple other's over the past month but can't recollect at
the moment...
bob

	Sting - Soul Cages

		good background entertaining music, imho

    Another vote for Achtung Baby and The Sky is Crying.  Never been really
    into U2 but I like this one.  Some great tracks in SRV's compilation remind
     me of the early records - hot stuff! Only thing against is the length
    (<40 minutes) but still worth it.
    
    Bob, I've been thinking about that John Lee Hooker one - now I think
    I'll have to pick it up.
    
    -Dermot 

Robert Cray -- Strong Persuader

I recently purchased this (came out a few years ago) and it is nice, mellow
blues with horns at the appropriate minutes.  Easy to listen to.  Would make
for decent background music.


Kenny Burrell --  Guitar Forms

I just got this one 2 days ago and have not had a lot of time to check it out.
From what I've heard, it is pretty nice -- mellow, jazzy, bluezy, acoustic,
spanish, stuff.  A pretty good mix.  This recording was originally done in
1965.  Have to listen to more of it.

- - -

If the crowd of people you're expecting is 'mixed', you might also want
to get a reggae album of some sort -- most folks are familiar with Bob 
Marley... Babylon by Bus is very nice.

re:    <<< Note 168.61 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON "Guinness gives you strength" >>>

>Robert Cray -- Strong Persuader

I'll agree about the easy to listen to part, and it may well be good for
background music, but this album always involves me to the point of singin'
and dancin'.  The title cut is a real grate one (just another notch on my
guitar...)  Good thing I don't have Robert's luck with women, though!

For Marley albums, I'd recommend Legend (a greatest hits compilation)
and/or Uprising, though on Uprising, you may want to program out a tune
called Pimper's Paradise for general party listening!

Don

>  <<< Note 168.62 by FSDEV::DHENRY "My resume is ready. Want .PS or .LN03?" >>>
>                  -< Bring six pounds of California weed... >-

"You can tell me a boat full of lawyers just sank"


- That is a very cool song -- lots of cool lyrics!

    Some of my recent favorites not already mentioned:
    
    Widespread Panic
    
    Richard Thompson - Rumor and Sigh
    
    Neil Young - Weld (use can use Arc if you wanna clear out the guests)
    
    Bela Fleck & the Flecktones - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo
    
    how about Christmas tunes? Charlie Brown Christmas (Vince Guaraldi is
    way cool)
    Windham Hill Winter Solstice
    
    Scott
    

 >   Bela Fleck & the Flecktones - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo
 
    what's this like? I almost bought it. I never heard the Flecktones
    but I'm familiar with NGR.

    They aren't at all like New Grass Revival.  Bela Fleck plays banjo,
    usually electric, with a jazzy feel.  The bass player is really
    incredible, as a matter of fact his bass is the dominant instrument in
    many of their songs.  Another guy on keyboards and harmonica, and a
    "drummer" whose drum kit looks like a guitar with synth pads.
    I can't classify their music, other than it's all instrumental and is
    hints at a cross between rock, funk, jazz and bluegrass.  Both albums
    look almost identical, except the second one (Flight of the Cosmic
    Hippo) has a few more things on the cover.
    
    You might hear a tune of theirs tonight on the channel 4 news.  A
    couple of months ago Bob Lobel did his usual Thursday night sports
    goofs spot, and used "Sinister Minister" from their first album for
    background music.  I haven't watched the 11:00 news lately so I don't
    know if he's still using that song.
    
    Scott
    

    I saw a PBS special of the Telluride Bluegrass Festival. Fleck and the
    Flecktones were there...bet it BLEW some of those hard core BG fans
    away!!!! Funky stuff with BG twinges... 
                                           rfb

Didn't see mentshun ofd the new allman bro's stuf..

    Funny, Bela says even when he was with NGR they didn't consider
    themselves a bluegrass band (although Sam Bush still pops un on the
    Nashville Network).  I think they were about as bluegrass as Old and In
    The Way.  A little while ago the latest Flecktones album was #1 on the
    "contemporary jazz" charts.  Stores sometimes have it filed under rock,
    sometimes in folk.  Goes to show how hard they are to classify.
    
    You have to see them live to really appreciate them.  Pretty tight band
    considering they haven't been around for 2 years yet.
    
    Scott
    

 re:      <<< Note 168.68 by SPICE::PECKAR "Shadow skiing the apocalypse" >>>

>Didn't see mentshun ofd the new allman bro's stuf..
 
    Already have it NEways. I'd like the Bela stuff myself, but don't
    think it'd go over big with the regular-type people who'll be over
    the house.
    
    So far U2 and Steevee are a go. Need one more new release to pick up.
    Shees, you'd think there be more to select from it being the holidays
    and all.

 Metallica recently released a new album :^)

    How about the new Buddy Guy album?  Lots of great guests on that,
    probably be a big hit with a party crowd too.
    
    Think it's called "Damn Right I Got The Blues"
    
    Scott
    

    >So far U2 and Steevee are a go. Need one more new release to pick up.
    >Shees, you'd think there be more to select from it being the holidays
    >and all.

Plenty to select from, just that this group is a somehwat, ummm, refined when 
it comes to music ;^)

I'd second (third?) the note on Widespread Panic, the CD I have of theirs is 
great (green and white label).  Sort of an Allman Bros or maybe even Dead 
(kind of a stretch to say this IMO) sound with possible some influence from 
that other band from Athens, GA, what was their name??? 8^)

Scott

    I'd nix on the U2 myself,.. I got it and well... thats my $.02
    
    The Sky is Cryin on the other hand is a must...
    
    I don't know if I should ask this here,.. but aaah, what the heck.
    
    Do the Phish have any CDs out?
    
    						/
    

re                      <<< Note 168.70 by SCOONR::GLADU >>>

>don't think it'd go over big with the regular-type people who'll be over

Regular-type people, huh?  They'd probably appreciate Infrared Roses.

- dave

    re:   <<< Note 168.71 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Don't go near that river" >>>

    >Metallica recently released a new album :^)

    Oh, a wise guy huh? May Santa infest your Xmas stocking with the
    complete works of Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute. :-)

    Phish has a CD but I can't find it in the stores.

    I second the Buddy Guy recommendation. What a great blues album!

CSN(Y) box CD set --- Big $$$ though...

    
    Saw 'Toad the Wet Sprocket' here in Albuquerque the other night...they
    have two discs out...the first one is 'Pale' and the second one is
    'Fear'....
    
    Great Band if you've never heard them...sort of New Wave...hints of
    REM, Crowded House, Elvis Costello, Squeeze...you can tell where thier
    roots are...real tight band with great vocals...
    
    check'em out

    
    
    Did you say Albuquerque?  OOoooh I'm Dyin'!  
    
    Sorry, couldn't control that.  anyway (brief digression) I will be out
    that way January 21-24 on business...  Show me around?  
    
    Treemon

RE:                      <<< Note 168.76 by SCOONR::GLADU >>>

   >    >Metallica recently released a new album :^)

  >  Oh, a wise guy huh? May Santa infest your Xmas stocking with the
  >  complete works of Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute. :-)


     Its bad enough I have to listen to Metallica when my son gets in the 
     car :^/


     

RE:         <<< Note 168.81 by LJOHUB::RILEY "You're twisting my air!" >>>
                               -< NM digression >-

    
    
   > Did you say Albuquerque?  OOoooh I'm Dyin'!  
    
   > Sorry, couldn't control that.  anyway (brief digression) I will be out
   > that way January 21-24 on business...  Show me around?  
    
    

    Make sure you go to Sadies...best Mexican food this side (or that IMO) of
    the Rio Grande..



   

  Jim 

    
    ooooooouuuuu....you've never been to Ron's El Camino???
    
    Sadies is excellent but Ron's is down home style New Mex...on Yale, one
    block off of Central....
    
    My choice for the real thang....
    
    					dugo

Re:   <<< Note 168.84 by WEDOIT::YOUNG "where is this place in space???" >>>
    
>    ooooooouuuuu....you've never been to Ron's El Camino???

	Is this the place that used to Ron y Marsha and then became
	Ron sin Marsha?  Down near the university, near the corner of
	Coal and Lead?

	If so, I *highly* recommend this place as being totally 
	excellent!  Great food!  Not a fancy place, no gourmet 
	pretensions, just plain excellent cookin'.

	Sadie's also is recommended for the experience...

	Enough of the digression for now,
	Bob_who_if_there_were_good_work_there_would_seriously_consider_
	relocating_to_Albuquerque

>    Did you say Albuquerque?  OOoooh I'm Dyin'!  
 

	Isn't that supposed to be "Hoboken" ?

;=)

	Two Rooms - A tribute to Elton John and Bernie Taupin. A wonderful CD, 
lots of good good music and normal (what's normal) people will like it too.

	Bonnie Raitt, Luck Of The Draw, Good solid Bonnie Raitt. Not as 
wonderful as some of her early stuff that doesn't get the recognition that it 
deserves, but a good solid selection of music


	Geoff

re:      <<< Note 168.86 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON "Guinness gives you strength" >>>
   
    >                 -< from a taping party in the past... >-

    Taping party? That was from the whole dadburn Europe tour! ;-)
    
    
    >>    Did you say Albuquerque?  OOoooh I'm Dyin'!  
 
    >	Isn't that supposed to be "Hoboken" ?

    Yep. Albekoikee is where you shoulda taken that left toin.
    
                                                                  

    FWIW, I got the Steevee and Buddy disks.
    
    - Ger

    someone say HOBOKEN????????
    
    		oooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
    
    		i'm dyyyyyyyyyyyyyin' again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    					da ve

I'd put in a vote for the "Bela Fleck and the Flecktones"

One of the tunes is "Reflections Of Lucy"  listed as written by 
"Fleck/Lennon/McCartney"


I think that most folks will like it, but if they don't you still can 
enjoy it when they are gone!

Kevin

    Ger..a friend has the New York revival cd ...it's ok but some of the
    others listed in here are better.
    I am on the edge about buying the live stones cd..have heard it and
    like it but don't quite know yet.
    
    rich

    Yah,.. I'd second Bonnies Luck of the Draw,.. I've been diggin'
    that one a lot lately
    
    							/
    

    I got a CD player the day after Christmas ... good idea, considering
    that I got 2 CD's for Christmas. 
    
    The new EC live CD's are phenomenal! 
    
    - Dave (who also picked up the first Garcia solo album on CD and is
      blown away!)

>    - Dave (who also picked up the first Garcia solo album on CD and is
>      blown away!)

If you like those, I highly recommend "One From The Vault" ... you will be
blown away once again.

Well went out and got that "New York Rock and Soul Review" over the last
weekend.  It's good!  It's real GOOD!  

The players are Donald Fagan, Bozz Scaggs, Michael McDonald, Charles Brown!!,
Phoebe Snow and I'm pretty sure the lead singer from the  (Young)Rascals
plus maybe another Rascal and a couple others (don't have it with me...).

Anyhow,  Charles Brown is good!  If anyone saw him opening for Bonnie Raitt
a couple years ago you can see he's back and in fine form.  He plays a mean
piano.  

I even stomached Michael McDonald :) and still like the disk (apologies to
all McDonald fans....).

so now,  where *did* you get those shoes?
bobo :)

I got one non-Dead CD for Xmas, actually a CD set - The Layla Sessions.  It's
the one with the Layla album on one disc, alternate takes of some of the songs 
on the album on another disc, and a third disc of nothing but jams (5 
different ones, ranging from 11 minutes to 18 or 20 minutes).  

That third disc has some of the best music I have ever heard on it!!  It has 
easily become my favorite CD and if there was ever a doubt in my mind that 
Clapton is one of, if not *the*, best with an axe that doubt vanished by the 
end of the 3rd jam - it just blew me away.  If I had a time machine one of the 
stops would definately be the studio where they recorded them so I could watch.
The standard FWIW, IMHO, etc., etc. apply...

What a great 4-piece band that was (Derek and the Dominos) - we know what 
happened to EC, but what become of the other three (Bobby Whitlock, Carl Radle, 
and Jim ????)?

Scott

    well I might be wrong but I think Jim & Carl both died.....or Jim
    killed his mom and is in a mental Hospital....Carl I think ODed...

    re: Derek and the Dominoes ...
    
    Jim Gordon is a session drummer, I think.
    Of Bobby Whitlock and Carl Radle, one is in jail and the other is dead
    :-(

    Bobby Whitlock (keyboards) has toured with Clapton up to the Just one 
    Night lp....
    

Wow, for someone who on the surface has had such a successful life, EC 
certainly must carry more than his fair share of pain.

Scott

    when you spend most of yer adult life addicted to heroin and then
    cocain and then both, life tends to be a bit rough.... and ya tend to
    lose a few friends along the way...
                                       rfb

    Jim Gordon was in prison, he may still be there or in a mental
    hospital.  I believe he murdered his mother.
    
    Scott
    

>Wow, for someone who on the surface has had such a successful life, EC 
>certainly must carry more than his fair share of pain.

Scott, for some Debess_philosophy on this very subject, see 208.66

>Scott, for some Debess_philosophy on this very subject, see 208.66

Cool thoughts Debess!  Definatley a "the glass is half full not half empty" 
kind of an outlook.

BTW, Clapton has a new album out, it is the soundtrack to the new movie Rush.  
I have not heard any of it yet (or seen the movie).  Sorry if this was 
mentioned already.

Scott

    ...well I went to Strawberries at lunch and they didnt have it yet (next 
    tuesday I'd say)......the Movie will be out this weekend (Phyllis ?)
    Clapton has book himself up for '92 and Harrison missed the boat :'(
    he (george) might join EC for a few shows here and there but dont count
    on it.
    
    Chris

    
    The movie's already out (probably not wide release yet, though).  I
    wrote a couple sentences about it in 102.
    
    

I think it opens locally (Boston area) Friday.  But then again I could be 
sniffing glue ;^)

Scott

    the track "tears in heaven" from the movie has been on radio and eMpTV
    for  awhile now...  really sweet, pretty tune...  
    
    					da ve

    Welp,  I got REM "Out of Time" for Christmas.  So far I like "Green"
    better.
    
    Got Jerry Garcia's new double live.  Good stuff!!  I like Stop that
    Train a lot.
    
    dave

	My only JGB is the new double live. i like it *alot*!
	I also heard a Nelly Wilson (aka Willie Nelson  ;-) version of
	_That Lucky Old Sun_ (but it doesn't compare to the Jerry
	version, I looove that organ sound!!)
	
	n e one know who wrote that?? mebbe I shud axe the Universe
	
	;-)

    I just picked up Planet Drum and At The Edge.  I love that kind of
    stuff, so why did I wait so long to get them?  I'm going to send in for
    the "almost free" cd on the back.  I saw a copy of it the other day and
    it's 70 minutes long with samples from the World series.
    
    I was in Lechmere the other day and I noticed a pile of Richard
    Thompson tapes at the cashier.  I asked her what they were and she gave
    me one, it even had a price sticker of $0.00.  It was a free sampler
    from his last album
    
    Another cool cd I got recently was Acoustic Junction.  I don't know if
    you can get it in the stores, I get it at their show at Johnny D's in
    Somerville.  I still urge everyone to see these guys if they're around. 
    They're from Boston but now live in Colorado.  
    
    Scott
    

re:      <<< Note 168.111 by 15610::JOLLIMORE "Prepare for the unexpected" >>>

>	I also heard a Nelly Wilson (aka Willie Nelson  ;-) version of
>	_That Lucky Old Sun_ (but it doesn't compare to the Jerry
>	version, I looove that organ sound!!)
	
>	n e one know who wrote that?? mebbe I shud axe the Universe
	
	I think Jerry Lee Lewis. 

	And I *still* want to hear Nilly Welson, I mean Willie Nelson,
	do Stella Blue... 

	ken

    re Acoustic Junction...
    I thought they were from Colo and gigged more on the east coast, as
    opposed to being from Boston and living in COlo??? I saw them open for 
    Wide Spread and Blues Travler....AJ was better than both IMO. 
                                                                  rfb

    AJ is from Martha's Vinyard (Mass) and living in Boulder, CO.

    Wow,..
    
    	I have no idea who wrote it,.. but if Jerry Lee Lewis indeed did
    pen "That Lucky Old Sun",.. I'll eat Fog's underwear.
    
    	I just can't believe JLL had that one in him...
    
    	Anyone know fer sure
    
    							/
    

	...i'm at home...just went downstairs to check (and flip
	the tape while I'm at it)...

	nope "That Lucky Old Sun" written by Haven Gillespie and
	Beasley Smith

	Debess

	Hmm, I must be thinking of something else.  I thought it
	was strange too!   I can picture the interview in my mind
	where I read it, but I can't see the whole page ;-)

	BTW, /, if I was right, what condiment would you have chosen
	for fog's underwear ;-);-)

	Ken

    straight up,..
    
    no mustard, no mayo, no reason :-)
    
    					/
    

	I know I have been relatively quiet but this is the kind of thing I
 	can't pass up on, no matter how busy my schedule is.  This is not the
	first 	time slash has offered to eat Fog's underwear.  I think it might
	be a fetish of his (how do you spell f-e-t-i-s-h oh pedantic one!)
	and he secretly hopes that we will one day hold him to that promise.
	This worries me, but what can I do?  In this world you can generally
	accept things or change them.  Assuming I could change slash's dreams
	of eating Fog's underwear I am not sure I am ready for the alternative
	:-) so I'll just accept it as part of slash's persona.  I also accept 
	that I definately do not care to be present when the "feast" occurs.

		;^)

Personally, I think they'd go better with Worcestershoostashire sauce.  :-)

bandwidth_narrowerP

re: lisa

You spelled "fetish" korrecklee


but ya put that "a" in definitely!

:-) :-)

    Well I failed to mention that you would be wearing them while I munched
    my dearset Petit Poopster :-0
    
    Yo,.. I think my buns have been BUSTED!
    
    Can't get away with anything around here,..
    
    So Lisa,,, I guess we're both lucky I was right eh ? :-)
    
    Or,... Naaaah,. I can't do it. This si supposed to be a family
    conference after all.
    
    								/hungry_man
    
    

	Thanks Debess.
	
	"Jerry Lee Lewis" shocked me.  ;-) I bet he can do a mean version
	of it tho  ;-)  ;-)
	
	Now we know what Lisa is wurry'n 'bout in non-werk notes when
	she ain't wurry'n 'bout spelling. she's wurried someone thinks
	she wearing fog's shorts. yikes. how's that make fog feel? and
	why's he wearin flavored shorts? is this how fog got his own
	note? maybe i shud ask the universe. :-\   :-) I think I'm sorry
	i asked about that lucky old sun.       ;-)

You got me Jay.  But if I were worrying about wearinf Fog's shorts (personally)
I'd be worryin about them falling off which would subsequently make me be
worryin about wearin NO shorts.  And then to Further worry I'd be worryin
about the wind ... especially when I'm wearin skirts.

		:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

    to get off of Fog's shorts for just a little bit !
    
    I bought Slipknot's new release KNOT LIVE and love it !!!
    I also bought (today at lunch) RUSH (the soundtrack of the movie not
    the band from Canada) after this note I put in the liner notes from the
    CD.
    
    Chris

RUSH
Original Score Composed and Performed by Eric Clapton
Orchestrated and Conducted by Randy Kerber
Produced by Russ Titelman
Executive Producer Lilli Fini Zanuck
Music Supervision Becky Mancuso and Tim Sexton for MagStripe Entertainment
Recorded DDD

tracks:

1 New Recruit 1:31
2 Tracks and Lines 3:01
3 Realization 2:41
4 Kristen and Jim 3:40
5 Preludin Fugue 3:19
6 Cold Turkey 2:24
7 Will Gaines 3:49
above arranged by Russ Titelman,Randy Kerber and Eric Clapton

8 Help Me Up 5:53
written by E.Clapton/Will Jennings

9 Don't Know Which Way To Go 10:48
written by Willie Dixon/Al Perkins

10 Tears In Heaven 4:31
written by E.Clapton/Will Jennings

Musicians for tracks 1-7

Eric Clapton - Guitar
Randy Kerber - Keyboards
Greg Phillinganes - Keyboards
Chuck Leavell - Piano and Organ
Robbie Kondor - Synthesizer
Nathan East - Bass
Tim Drummond - Bass
Steve Ferrone - Drums
Lenny Castro - Percussion
Concert Master - Bruce Dukov
Contractor - Patty Fidelibus

Musicians for track 8

EC - Vocals,Guitar
Randy Kerber - Organ
Greg Phillinganes - Piano
Nathan East - Bass
Steve Ferrone - Drums
Lenny Castro - Percussion
Background Vocals - Bill Champlin,Vanese Thomas,Jenni Muldaur,Lani Groves
Synth Horns Arranged and Performed by David Frank

Musicians for track 9

Buddy Guy - Vocals,Guitar
EC - Guitar
Chuck Leavell - Piano
Greg Phillinganes - Organ
Nathan East - Bass
Steve Ferrone - Drums

Musicians for track 10

EC - Vocals,Guitar,Dobro
Randy Kerber - Synthesizer
Jaydee Maness - Pedal Steel
Nathan East - Bass
Gayle Levant - Celtic Harp
Lenny Castro - Percussion
Jimmy Bralower - Drum Machine

total CD running time = 41:01

I've listened to it twice and the last 3 tracks should be all over the radio
within the next few weeks (Tears in Heaven is already a largely played track
on the radio.WBCN,WBOS,WZLX,WAAF 4 very different formatted stations play it)

The stand out track is "Don't Know Which Way To Go". IMO

The 1st seven tracks are very nice (don't know how it relates to the movie,have
not seen it yet) bluesy to sweet melodies. 

Chris

    
    FYI.. Will Gaines is the character played by Greg Allman.
    
    

    Anyone order the "digitally remastered " Cd Jimmy Page did of Led Zep
    tunes? Supposedly only available from the TV offer. 
    I saw it on TV last night...noticed the cover photo is ofa crop circle
    in England. 
                rfb

    They want $40 for that set!  You can get it cheaper in England and
    their cd prices are sky high.  For like $10 more you can get the Zep
    box set and get twice as many tunes.
    
    Apparently now that Time-Life owns Warner they're putting the Time-Life
    marketing mentality to cds.  Next they'll probably have the "Alice
    Cooper CD of the Month Club".  Is Muscle of Love on CD yet? Does it
    come with a little pair of panties around the cd?
    
    Scott
    

    re .-1
    
    It's just a pared down version of the CD box set.
    
    To quote Robin Williams: "sounds like he's got his nuts in a vise."
    
    Jamie

    
    
    I got the 4-CD box set of "Jimmy Page remastered Led Zeppelin
    chronology" last year, and its the same picture that you describe, rfb.
    
    I like it, it does sound grate!!  But I got it in a store over a year
    ago.....didn't have to get from my TV :^)
    
    Hogan

    
    >>For like $10 more you can get the Zep box set and get twice as many
    tunes.
    
    Oh....I guess it isn't the same as the box set.....
    
    Yeah, the box set was re-mastered...but not remixed.  I don't know,
    sounds like a scam for that price.
    
    Hogan

RE: Zep

Like Jamie said, it is just a paired down version of the box set that has been 
out for a while, plus a CD of interviews with Page, Plant, and Jones.  The box 
set even has the same crop circle photo.  Forty bucks is outrageous though, 
especially if you couldn't care less about the interview CD.  Time/Life is 
trying to be sneaky by offering it for 4 payments of $9.99 (hoping people will 
see the $9.99 and think it's some kind of deal).

The box set though is very nice.  Page did a good job of improving the sound 
quality on many of the songs and it also contains a few (though not many) 
otherwise unavailable songs (Hey Hey What Can I Do, Travelling Riverside Blues, 
White Summer/Black Mountain Side, and an interesting combo of Bonzo's Montreaux 
and Moby Dick, maybe one or two more).  But hey, I was a ZepHead before I was a 
deadhead and between vinyal and CD have just about everything they've put out, 
so I guess I'm biased  8^).

Scott

Don't think I've seen mention of this yet, apologies if it has been...

My latest CD purchase is the new one from Merl Saunders and the Rainforest 
Band.  It's a live double-CD set titled Save the Planet So We'll Have 
Someplace to Boogie.  Actually there is a type-o on the spine of the CD 
box (it is packaged like OFTV, no jewel box) and "Boogie" actually says
"Boobie"  8^)

Anyway, I've listened to the first disc and it is quite nice, holds up to any 
of the stuff I've heard from Merl.  A really cool Sugaree, very different from 
how the Dead play it, and a rockin' Keepers are personal faves after one 
listen.  It's a DDD set and the sonic quality, while for example not quite in 
the class of OFTV or WaN, is very nice indeed.  I'll type in the complete play 
list below.  I ordered it by calling the record company direct at 
1-800-759-MERL and it was $22 and change, shipping included, and I got it in 3 
days.  Not too bad a deal for a double CD set.  They did say it's available in 
stores though.  Packaging is very nice too, cool graphics on the cardboard 
holder and on the discs themselves, although no where does it indicate the use 
of recycled materials 8^/

Here's the song list and the players:

The venues:  Great American Music Hall (San Fran), The Bayou (Wash DC), 
		Raoul's (Portland, ME), Chestnut Caberet (Philly), 
		Wetland's NYC, Max's On Broadway (Baltimore)

DISC 1:	Save Mother Earth - Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90 - 1:32
	Sugaree	- Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90 - 7:52
	(Finders) Keepers - Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90 - 7:16
	I Feel Like Dynamite - Band 2 - MAX'S 4/30/91 - 7:05
	The Harder They Come - Band 2 - MAX'S 4/30/91 - 6:16
	Do I Move You - Band 2 - MAX'S 4/30/91 - 8:27
	You Can Leave Your Hat On - Band 2 - WETLANDS 4/27/91 - 12:19
	Wondering Why - Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90 - 3:49
	Hi Heel Sneakers - Band 2 - MAX'S 4/30/91 - 4:59
	The System - Band 1 - GAMH - 10/22/90 - 6:15
	Save Mother Earth Reprise - Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90

DISC 2:	My Problems Got Problems - Band 2 - WETLANDS 4/27/91 - 7:32
	Gee Baby Ain't I Good To You - Band 1 - GAMH 10/22/90 - 4:01
	Merl's Tune - Band 1 - BAYOU 10/4/90 - 10:05
	Blue Hill Ocean Dance - Band 1 - RAOUL'S 9/26/90 - 15:00
	Blues from the Rainforest - Band 1 - CHESTNUT 10/2/90 - 14:20


RAINFOREST BAND 1
-----------------
Merl Saunders - Hammond B-3, Korg M-1 Rex, Kurzweil 1000PX, Yamaha DX-7E, 
		Roland D50, Lead Vocals
Steve Kimmock - Guitar, Rainstick, Cowbell
Bill Thompson - Roalnd Axis, Korg M-1 and M-1 Rex, Roland Sound Canvas, 
		Yamaha TX-7, Background Vocals
Tony Saunders - Bass, Cymbals, Korg M-1, Background Vocals
Muruga Booker - Slingerland Drums, nada drum, Conga drum, quantum pitch drum, 
		SPX 90 effect unit
Karen Baker, Tammy Tambora, Shakti Booker - Background Vocals on The System and 
		Save Mother Earth

RAINFOREST BAND 2
-----------------
Merl Saunders - Hammond B-3, Korg M-1 Rex, Kurzweil 1000PX, Yamaha DX-7E, 
		Roland D50, Lead Vocals
Michael Warren - Bass, Korg M-1, Background vocals
Steve Kimmock - Guitar
Muruga Booker - Slingerland Drums, nada drum, Conga drum, quantum pitch drum, 
		SPX 90 effect unit

SPECIAL GUESTS
--------------
Frederico - Percussion, Bird Call Whistles, Wah-Wah and Zango Shakers, 
	    Pan-Man-Fan, Cuica (solo), congas on Blues from the Rainforest
John Popper - Harmonica on You Can Leave Your Hat On and My Problesm Got 
	      Problems
Steve Kindler - Violin on Sugaree
Maria Muldaur - Vocals on Gee Baby Ain't I Good To You

    as i said somewhere else in here, i saw merl last sunday nite, good
    stuff!! He played most of what Scott (?) says is on disk one...I did
    not like the Sugaree, however Bertha was HOT!!!! Blues from the Rain
    Forest and Moonlite over Halakakalakalalakalla were my favorites. 
                                              rfb

    
    I agree.. Merl & the Rainforest Band are hot hot hot!!
    
    

    howzabout the latest Bonnie Raitt "Luck of the Draw"?? MUCH better than
    'Nick of Time" I think.
      rfb

    Randy,. the new Bonnie is to drool for,.. anyone who hasn't heard it
    can take a recommendation from me that you should. Shes a classy bluezy
    lady that can call on me anytime ...
    
    								/
    

    
    recommendation accepted over here!  thanks!
    
    

	I'll be seeing Bonnie Raitt and Ronnie play this Friday, acoustic,
	at the Orpheum.... should be a fun time...

	Anyone catch the Ronnie_Article in the Herald yesturday?  Nice
	sized pic. of Ronnie w/ his strat, playin' the blooz.

			/JC

re    <<< Note 168.141 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON "Approaching the snapping point" >>>
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

JC, this doesn't seem like a good thing ... ;^}

re        <<< Note 168.142 by VMPIRE::CLARK "Read My Lips: No New Term" >>>

>JC, this doesn't seem like a good thing ... ;^}

in all seriousness folks, me and my team is _really_ approaching the snapping
point.  the pressure is very strong... i've been working just about every
w/end since the new year.................................. i had my 40 hrs
in this week by yesturday (weds) afternoon.  by sunday, i'll probably be 
close to having my 40hrs in for the next week.

it is affecting me physically and emotionally... sometimes, my mind doesn't
knwo what to do to get away from it.... it is a weird feeling.  the blues
last night at the bull felt very good for me --- all over.  thanks ronnie.

march 9 we go to field test.  hopefully by then, the pressure will be off,
or, we'll all be headed to the doctor.

good words Lisa...good words...and I TOO need someone to say that
to me and put some things into perspective for me...my life has
been SO centered around my job since New Year's and unfortunately
my family is bearing the brunt of my stress.

My product is going out to final field test Mar 2 and to SSB at the end 
of March.  I was asked to work fulltime until then  - sure am glad I agreed 
to do it because I'm putting in so much overtime that I'm glad I'm at
least getting paid for 40 hours of it, instead of 30.

Guntis is still working on his brother's house - so is gone from 
Thursday until Sunday.  That means I'm in single-parent mode for more
than half of every week (my hats off to you out there that are single
parents fulltime - WHAT a hard job).

I'm stressed to the max these days...but Lisa, your words hit a chord
for me.  I really do need to look at how much I've accomplished, for
one thing.  And even though I don't have the time, I need to take some 
time for myself more.  I've been able to bend my broken finger more and 
more so I'm able to play the guitar a bit.  I should take more time
for myself...

I won't be making any of the east coast shows this spring.  But I just
recently got some tapes of the Boston run from Deane (thanks Dino!),
and it's been great to have some "new" music to listen to while I
slave away!  That final encore was great...it sends goosebumps up
and down my arms when I hear it cause even though I wasn't there that
night, I felt it was a great farewell to Boston.  When I heard that
Brokedown was the encore, I thought, well that makes sense, that place
is so old and everything.  But when I heard the tape and the whole
song which starts our "Fare you well, my honey...", well, whattaya
think you that were there, was Jer talkin' to us in Boston or WHAT!

take care y'all - 
Debess

thanks lisa for the words... well... here i am, another weekend at work...
i've been taking time out to workout and play my guitar for as long as
my wrists can take it (pain in the wrists due to coding 1000s of lines of
code).  sleep has been good also - i try to get 7hrs...... by 11pm, i'm
so wiped out that all i can do is sleep...... at least i have not turned
to drinking heavily (which could happen because i used to be a heavy
drinker) or other things... just keep the southern comfort away from me! ;-)

thanks to jim rehill for dropping off some new tapes that i'm enjoying
now while cranking away on this lonely, quiet, saturday.

thanks to bonnie raitt & friends for a good show last night at the orpheum and
thanks to scott wentzell & girl friend for the company before, during, and
after the show......... and thanks to deb for being a good kid through all
this shit...

Yes, it was quite a show at the Orpheum, even from way up at the top about 
5 rows from the back wall.  Bonnie Raitt has quite a voice, and she ain't half 
bad with the axe either, which was a pleasant surprise.  Does she have some 
local roots?  She seemed to be pretty good friends from waaaay back the the 
local talent she assembled for the show, who were all quite good but the names 
escape me.  Thanks JC for getting the tix!

Scott

    re: Local roots...
    
    Bonnie spent a lot of time kicking around the local club
    scene here in the 60s...
    
    /bruce

    RE .148 (Chris)
    
    >>	SPRINGSTEEN, RAITT, BROWNE is an italian bootleg (on Templar Records
    
    That makes a lot of sense ... I got the original (that's been making
    the rounds of the folks in this file) from Donato Giussani, our DEChead
    friend from Milano.
    
    thanx for finding out the date of the show ... did he mention the
    venue?  And yes, they say several times during the show that it's a
    benefit for the Christic Institute.
    
    ... Bobbb
    

    Bonnie used to live in Cambridge (MA)
    
    							/
    

    
    Hi!
    
    Can someone jog my memory?? What album by Neil Young contains "Country
    Girl"? 
    
    
    Thanks,
    kp
    

    >>Can someone jog my memory?? What album by Neil Young contains "Country
    >>Girl"?
    
    It's on "Deja Vu" with Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

    Bingo!- No wonder I couldn't find it! I was under the impression it was
    on a NY solo album.
    
    Thanks!
    

I'll admit it ... I have no pride.

	I *like* the Nirvana album.

It reminds me of a faster, slightly more melodious Black Sabbath.  ;^)

    .-1
    
    Then that makes two of us with no pride:-). Dave, if you liked that
    try "Goo" by Sonic Youth.
    
    Mike_whose_partial_to_a_Nirvana_tune_called_Territorial_Pissings

>    Mike_whose_partial_to_a_Nirvana_tune_called_Territorial_Pissings

I like "In Bloom" and "Come As You Are," myself.

I also like that song "Painless" by Baby Animals.  But I haven't learned my
lesson yet ... I bought the CD based on that one song ... wasn't impressed by
the others.

    ARRRRGGGGHHHH NERVana Nerds!!! %^)  Every day I come home my 14 yr old
    daughter is blasting this! When I say something to her she says"
    "Wonder where I get it!"
    I LOVE to make up fake words to their songs, really pisses off the
    teenager!
    
    "Elevator, alligator, mashed patater, green fryed tamater"
    %^)
       rfb

    rfb,
    
    That's always the fun part: making up your own lyrics as you go along
    so you don't have to memorize any!!;-)

    YA, and again, just to piss off the teenager!!
    You guys that are into this, have ya heard of James? that's the
    latest with my headbanger. 
                               rfb

Durned kids and their music these days ... (sadly shaking head)

;^)

 I can't listen to the stuff my teenager listens to long enough to make up
lyrics...After 5 minutes of that thrash metal stuff I'm ready to kill somebody
and am yelling at everything/body that gets in my way :-Q




Jum who wonders what it does to the kids that listen to it

    hey jum, looked what happened to US!!!!! %^)
    seriously, if a kid is already hosed in the head, the music only
    suggests things...a level headed kid may be "inspired" by the lyrics
    but isn't gonna "kill himself cause Ozzie says so." 
    Besides, these kids are the future....one MUSt have faith...
     (he says as he shakes his head sadly) 
                                                            %^)  rfb
    
    

Actually my note was somewhat tongue in cheek.  My 15 year old, though he 
listens to that stuff, does seem to have a pretty level head on his shoulders.





Jum

    uh...  Jum...  does Chris know that you go around telling peole that he
    has a flat head?
    
    					da ve

RE:  <<< Note 168.165 by JUNCO::DWEST "Dont Overlook Something Extraordinary" >>>
                                    -< :^) >-

   > uh...  Jum...  does Chris know that you go around telling peole that he
   > has a flat head?                                          ^^^^^
    
    				

    I don't tell peole anything :^)






 Jum

    
    		@	@
    		    >
    		\_______/

    WHy make up lyrics to NIrvanna whne the opriginals (at least what my
    ears are hearing) are pretty damned good to begin with:
    
    	Here we are now entertainers
    	Yeah we're stupid, its contagious
    
    
    	.. and so on...
    
    								/Bill
    

    Here we are now, entertain us
    I feel stupid and contagious

    there's ALOT goin on with them Nirvana lyrics....my daughter has let me
    read the lyric sheets. 
                           rfb

I've never even heard of Nirvana except in here.  I feel so left out...

Scott

    Hey Scott, 
    wanna borrow my kid for awhile??
    
    %^) rfb

    >Hey Scott, 
    >wanna borrow my kid for awhile??


As tempting as that sounds, I'll pass.   

8^)

Stopped by the the record store yesterday....

Picked up the Radiators - Total Evaporation (haven't listend to it yet), how
does this one compare with the other two from the Radiators- "Law of..." and
"Zig Zag..." ?? 

Noticed a new Mellissa Etheridge album- Has anyone heard any of it???

Can someone recommend a specific Acoustic Alchemy recording???  Heard some on 
the radio and remember seeing mention of it in here, but what's their best 
album??


adTHANKSvance,

Glenn

    "Total Evap" doesn't even compare to "zizgzagin" and "Law" IMO....
     but to each his own......
                              rfb

>>    "Total Evap" doesn't even compare to "zizgzagin" and "Law" IMO....
>>     but to each his own......

Well IRYO - so is it still "good" or should I return it before I open it????

(IRYO = I Respect Your Opinion)

    I'd keep it.......I only heard it once on KBCO, I think. 
    It just didn't seem to have that PUNCH that I associate with the RADS. 
    But music "grows on ya", and just a once over isn't really a good
    for an opinion....IMO. %^)
    

    Well, I'd like to recommend a couple of new releases I've enjoyed
    lately:
    
    Hypnotic Clambake - (I forgot the title but it's their only cd)
      a Boston-area band with an unusual lineup, some really great
      and unusual tunes
    
    Little Village - another one of those supergroups - Nick Lowe, John
    Hiatt, Ry Cooder and Jim Keltner.  It't not what you'd expect from a
    gathering of greats, kinda low key but it's a real fun album. One that
    will grow on you.  I just barely got it but I expect to play it a lot.
    
    Scott
    

    read a grate review on Little Village from the Denver show...sounds
    like a CD to get.
    
    I just got 24 nites, the CD, and borrowed the tapes from Divide Dave,
    want to do a comparison..
                            rfb                             

    Picked up THE CHURCH from the KILO (radio station)
    BlackDog Van (a freebee along with a free sample of the new Arbys Subs) 
    
    
    
    
    BUT.....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    IT'S FOR MY KID!!!!!
       rfb

    Theres some interesting stuff by THE CHURCH,..
    
    I actually evenlike some of it...
    
    F'r instance that song "Back in Metropolis" or whatever its called
    can really stick with you,.. If I listen to that tape on the way
    	into work,.. I'm hummin the sucker all day :-}
    
    	Even tho its fer yer kid randy,.. do check it out
    
    					/who_says_theres_more_to_life
    					than_the_grateful_dead
    

    i listened to it twice already / , Tiffany hasn't listened to it at all
    yet.
    
    
    rfb who thinks there's little BUT the dead %^) <-----

    Is it the same disk with that tune I mentioned?
    
    Check it out in the "right state of mind" some time,...
    
    wait a minute,.. I forgot I was addressing Mr state of mind himself...
    
    back to our regularly scheduled digressions...:-)
    
    							/
    

    I don't think Metropolis is on this disk...it's the "newest" by The
    Church...some interesting guitar parts....
    
                                      always in the right state..rfb
    
    "What state is this, sonny?"
    
    "altered"

    BTW, the 24 nites tapes are grate! I like them better than the CD.
    
                                           rfb

     
     Anybody know the phone # for Noteworthy....
    
    thanks
    Sean

See 38.162

    Just got the new Relix (summer issue) - first article is about Bela
    Fleck & the Flecktones - cool!
    
    New Allman Brothers hits the stores tomorrow - Live In Boston.
    
    Scott
    

    Hi People,
    
    	Did anyone stay home Friday night and tape Springsteen off the
    radio ? got blanks or a trade ....
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Chris

<<< Note 168.189 by SLOHAN::FIELDS "Its sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left Town" >>>
                -< Looking for Stringbean tapes, Brooooossssse >-
>    	Did anyone stay home Friday night and tape Springsteen off the
>    radio ? got blanks or a trade ....

I recorded this - not sure how it came out as I haven't gone back to listen
to it.  It was only about 90 minutes long.  I think there weren't any encores
either - or else the radio didn't play them....It is possible he did 2 sets
and the radio played one.  There was a dull roar in my living room that night
and I couldn't hardly hear the music....

want a copy?
bob

bob, is the springsteen you have acoustic or electric  Solo or full band?  I
might be, as Fog would say, "innerested"  :-)

RE:  JC / Springsteen

It's a full band; apparently what will tour in the coming months.
I didn't (and still haven't) listen to this thing.

There were some folks at my house that night and they were yacking
(me too) and I could barely here what was played.  

According to a paper, they did a 30 or 40 minute set that really
rocked after the radio broadcast was done.  Hmmm,  save the rocking
for the paying customers??  sheesh! :)

there you go.  
bob

Yesterday I received a wonderful CD for Father's Day. It is called "Devout 
Catalyst" by Ken Nordine. This CD is put out under the GDM label and what 
follows are the liner notes. If you get a chance pick this one up.

The Line-up
-----------
Ken Nordine - Vocals
Jerry Garcia - Acoustic Guitar
David Grisman - Mandolin - courtesy of Dawg Music (BMI)
Howard Levy - Keyboard / Harmonica
Joe Cravin - Percussion
Jim Kerwin - Acoustic Bass
Tom Waits - Vocals - appears courtesy of Island Records on "A Thousand Bing 
                     Bangs" and "The Movie"

All Selections 1991 Rubber Frog Publishing (ASCAP)
                    Ice NIne Publishing (ASCAP)
Produced and distributed byt Grateful Dead Records


In the beginning was the word. Well, actually, in the beginning was this 
     voice...

No more your average human mechanism for communication than B.B. King's 
     "Lucille" is merely a guitar for playing the blues, nor a Bosendorfer
     is a mechanism for playing "Chopsticks"...

For whatever reason, Mom and Dad Nordine's DNA dished out a mighty package
     in young Kenneth's pipes, the result being a full bore basso profundo
     rumble as hairy as anything west of the Gyuto Monks. Thunder with an
     edge. Something special...

He took his gift to the logical place, the radio waves, beginning a career 
     in the 1940's that extends to this day as "King of the voice-overs,"
     the Voice of Levi's, Tasters Choice Coffee, The Chicago Blackhawks, 
     even Sluggeta Snail Bait, but Ken could not live on snail bait alone,
     and in the late 1950's he developed "Word JAzz", something new.
     Rap before there was rap. Not singing, not talking. "Story telling in
     lyric form with a sense of grooving with the music," is the way he 
     put is once, "recreating the logic of dreams," he said another time,
     "the something that makes it / whatever it is / is outside the
     mainstream/ of show busy biz... 

In 1958 Dot Records put out the first "Word Jazz" album and it floated out 
     into the vanilla blur of Eisenhower's America and all the fringe people
     like `frinstance Jerry Garcia and Dan Healy who were listening to MIles
     Davis and reading Jack Kerouac and digging Lenny Bruce went Ah!

Or Ah Hah!

And Ken stayed in Chicago, made his voice-overs, and Word Jazz became a 
     regular half-hour on NPR, and time went along. When Dan Healy, the 
     Dead's maestro de sound, decided that the 1990 New Years Eve broadcast
     needed a heavy hitter to make it work, he reached out and there was Ken,
     his hair now snowy but the pipes still gleaming, and it turned out to be
     a very fine show. In the spring of 1991 Healy said let's do it again, and 
     threw Jerry Garcia and David Grisman and Jim kerwin and Joe Craven and
     Howard Levy into the stew (with a visit from Tom Waits), and you hold the
     results in your hands.

No retakes, no touch-ups- Voice meets fingers, word meets jazz.

Was it ever great, doing it the way we did, live and no retakes, all of us 
     together there in the Grateful Dead studio (seems like just a day or so 
     ago) with the music and the words telling each of us what was happening
     and why. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I would be there for
     real, doing this very special CD that still seems a dream to me. When 
     I think about it something jumps up for joy and goes happy crazy. There
     we were in audio heaven way back in the spring of '91 and now (think 
     I'll pinch myself) what we did is yours to look at with your ears. Thank
     you, thank you, and thanks again to the passionate few who made this
     happen.

Jerry Garcia with all his heart deep into the strings of his acoustic and his
     fingers telling him beautifully where to go and how to get there, and 
     right next to him David Grisman, his virtuosity running up and down the 
     mandolin, as the two of them played be as free as you want to be games
     (your turn Jerry, now yours Dave, and quick as a flash the filigree of 
     the two of them together at once), and fitting fantastically with both 
     of them, close by, was good friend and great talent Howard Levy, who 
     flew out with me from the big Windy City to sit in on keyboards and 
     harmonica, and don't forget the subtle percussive tastes of Joe Craven
     bending into the let me help you, I'm listening and you can hear that
     he was, and also paying close attention was thoughtful Jim kerwin, 
     knowing exactly what was necessary on the tall acoustic bass that he
     plays so well. Basic to what Jerry and Dave and Howard and Joe and Jim,
     basic to they were all musically doing, was the sensitive listening they
     gave to the words coming out of me and making my talking come as close to
     a song as it's ever been.

Also thanks and thanks again to Tom Waits, friend and much more, for the two 
     things he sat in with me on, both of which speak for themselves inside.
     What a considerable talent he is.

And a paragraph of praise all by itself for Dan Healy who produced this album
     with what I think you'll agree is and exquisite sense of hearing. He 
     did it with the same understanding of sound and sense that has made him 
     the man who knows how to make a live performance be what it should be:
     vibrantly alive.. Thanks Dan... you're the one... you did it... you made
     this all happen, starting last new years eve in the coliseum in Oakland.
     First time in my life I ever saw indoor fireworks.



                           DEVOUT CATALYST 


I LOVE A GROOVE... is grooving what comes naturally when the groove begins to 
         happen inside your metabolic rate, anybody does it.

MR. SLICK... is an imaginary snake who should be forced to eat money for 
         breakfast.

INSIDE OF IS... is a half real half unreal bar called the bubble where I've 
         spent alot of liquid, maybe you've been there, it's a place where 
         forgiveness erases the awful things you said or did the night before.

AGING YOUNG REBEL... is a shaggy doggerel.

QUATRAINS OF THOUGHT... is a mental trip of the brain that everyone takes a 
         with a ticket you can only buy from yourself.

SPREAD EAGLE... is a real imaginary place in upper limbo where I go to get 
         away.

THE FINAL PAGE... is a funny bar I made up to make room for some characters 
         who get their drinks from a bartender who sais he talks to God.

THOUSAND BING BANGS... is a dialogue Tom Waits and I do in which we trade
         verbal choruses.

CRACKS IN THE CEILING... is looking up half awake from a dream you wish you 
         could finish before the alarm goes off.

WAYS OF THE MEEK... is mister maybe not so smart and a week of dumbday,
         bluesday, endsday, blursday, cryday, shatterday, and stunday.

THE MOVIE... is me trying to tell Tom about the movie no one wants me to make
         and Jerry solos the score.

ZODIAC UPRISING... is an illogical extension of the astrological. I'm an 
         Aries, damn rambunctious...what's your sign?

LAST WILL... is a non-legal document wherin the aforementioned allegedly gives
         away all his whims and notions.



**********That's it for now***********BUY THIS CD*********You'll like it*******



Geoff

Tom Waits & Jerry!  Hah!

Howard (no relation) Levy is the AMAZING keyboard/harmonica player with
Bela Fleck.

    Just picked up CSNY "4-Way Street" on cd yesterday.  I've been waiting
    8 years for this to finally see the light of day.
    
    First, some new packaging: no cardboard box (yay!), just a
    shrink-wrapped cd.  The jewel case is the normal single cd size, but
    the inside hinges to hold 2 discs (another yay! I don't like the fat 2
    cd holders).  They managed to convert the original album insert into
    booklet form rather nicely, and there's *finally* a track listing on
    the cover!
    
    It's all remixed from the masters, and the editing is much better than
    the original.  Supposedly one of the delays was infinding all of the
    masters.  There's a bunch of new tracks:
    King Midas In Reverse (Nash solo of a tune he wrote while in the
    Hollies)
    Laughing (Crosby)
    Black Queen (Stills)
    Neil Young medley
    
    In all they added about 25 minutes of new material to the set.
    The sound quality is superb - people tended to write off the original
    set as a bad performance, but I think it was just bad mixing. Remixing
    of this set was done by the same guy who cleaned up the Dead's catalog
    (Joe Gastwirt).
    
    Worth picking up.
    
    BTW, how many are saving the Maxell points? 500 points gets you a free
    cd.  You get 25 per tape so that's only 20 tapes.  I finally got one of
    the saving forms and went through all of my blank tapes last night and
    have almost enough for 3 cds.
    
    Scott
    

    what's da goin price, Scott?   
                                rfb

>    BTW, how many are saving the Maxell points? 500 points gets you a free
>    cd.  

	what is this all about Scott - I keep hearing about Maxell points
	but have no idea what that means...

	Re: Four Way Street - I also heard that this would never be
	released on cd because of the quality - I've always loved
	this record to the point of almost wearing out the grooves -
	glad to hear it's out on cd, I'll be upgrading for sure - 
	and new tracks - yeah!

	Re: the *nasty* insinuations about my sweet little girls
	in the digression note from turkey(tm)-dave ;-), well...
	I got a good laugh out of it ;-)

	Debess    

    Debess,
    
    maxy points are this gimmic promo but Maxell to sell more black tape !
    but its a great gimmic for us taping deadhead that use Maxell (Bobb
    should know 1st hand :')) I've got over 800 points so far...
    
    each tape you buy has 25 point sticker on the label sheet you peel them
    off the label sheet and stick them on this O-fish-all mail in sheet for
    blank tapes CDs t-shirts head cleaners and if you save lots of maxy
    points you can even go to some tropical Island for 7 days ! you can get
    them from any maxell tape XLII, XLII-S, and I even found them on 8mm
    tapes for my cam-corder (BUGS-CAM(tm))....for rules please read the
    O-fish-al mail in sheet !
    
    Chris

I think all you need to get a free CD is purchase two ten-packs?

Good deal, considering the price really isn't any higher (at least at Spags).

    Yeah, the cd deal is the best.  You can get an XLII tape for 150, or a
    cd for 500.  The tape is worth maybe $2, but the cd can have a value up
    to about $16.  Think I'm gonna try to fill in the holes in my solo Dead
    collection (again).
    
    I wish you could get the o-fish-al forms easier.  They don't always
    come with the tapes (I got them with 3-packs but the bigger packages
    don't have them).  Even got 20 point stickers from video tapes.
    I was giving mine away for a while since I figgured I couldn't get any
    forms, and the promo was running out.  This new promo II is valud until
    the end of '93, so I hope it's going to be more or less permanent.
    Building a cd collection for almost free is better than gettinga pair
    of cheap sunglasses.
    
    I paid $23.99 for 4 Way Street.  I've been wanting to upgrade this for
    about 10 years, ever since I decided the album I got at the flea market
    was too scratchy, but then by '84 cds were coming out so I figured I'd
    wait a "few" years for this to make it.  But the wait was worth it
    since they had to locate and fix the masters.  Better than the hack
    jobs they did on the original CSN cds (wobbly  masters, wrong speeds
    etc.)  Originally you were supposed to get the bonus tracks with a
    deluxe version, so I was envisioning a normal cd and some fancy package
    for twice the price in a pretty box with the other tracks.
    
    Now they should put the first Crosby + Nash album on cd.
    
    Scott
    

We've gotten quite a few free CD's from our MAXELL points.  At the rate
we used to (we've slowed down since then ;-) trade tapes, we were getting
free CD's every 2 or 3 weeks!  Now we've came to the wise realization that
our cash flow is limited 8-).

peace,
t!ng

    RE: Maxell Bonus Points
    
    Yeah ... Bobbb knows first hand all right ... 10 free CDs so far, and
    now I've got nearly 4,000 MaxPoints saved up ... another 3,500 and I
    get a free boom box ... ;^)
    
    ... Bobbb
    

    Maxell points, love em or leave em ;-)  I'm a bit too disorganized to 
    have used mine yet, and may never get the chance.  Came home yesterday
    and noticed quite a few o-fish-ul forms strewn around the living room
    by Hannah, my 3 yr. old.  Boy does she love to sticker things! 
    I'm glad I don't get too concerned about these things ;-)
    
                                                     PeterT
    

    ...a very long time ago, when I was in college in Philadelphia, every
    Friday afternoon my next door neighbor in the dormitory used to
    celebrate the onset of the weekend by really cranking up his roommate's
    JBL's with a really fine new blues & bluegrass album by David Bromberg
    called 'Wanted Dead or Alive'...and in particular the last song, the
    'New Lee Highway Blues', a very raucous fiddle tune.
    
    Well, this album disappeared into oblivion, never to be heard from
    again, except for a few cuts that showed up on a Bromberg collection,
    called ("oddly enough" according to David) the 'Best of David
    Bromberg".  Well, folks, it's out on CD - finally!!!  This is the
    album that made me a diehard Bromberg fan - 18 years ago...
    
    This is a truely amazing disc.  It has the finest clarinet solo I've
    ever heard, in the midst of an incredible tune called "Send Me to the
    'Lectric Chair".  It's also got by far, the best version of the old "Kansas
    City" tune ever, and of course David's fiddles...
    
    I found it in the Harvard Coop on Friday afternoon.  It has a rather
    unusual cover - David on top of the Empire State building, King
    Kong-like....If you see it, buy it. 
    
    Titles:
    
    The Holdup				- David Bromberg and George Harrison
    Someone Else's Blues		- David Bromberg
    Danger Man				- David Bromberg
    Main Street Moan			- David Bromberg
    Send Me To The 'Lectric Chair	- George Brooks
    Statesboro Blues/Church Bell Blues	- Willie McTell/Luke Jorden
    Wallflower				- Bob Dylan
    Kansas City				- Mike Stoller and Jerry Lieber
    The New Lee Highway Blues		- David Bromberg
    
    From the liner notes:
    
    Musicians:
    
    David Bromberg: Lead Vocal, Acoustic and Electric Guitar
    Steve Burgh: Bass/Peter Ecklund: Trmpets and Mellophones
    Joe Ferguson: Alto and Baritonbe Sax/Hungria Garcia: Timbales
    JERRY GARCIA: Acoustic and Electric Guitar/KEITH GODCHAUX:Piano
    Jeff Gutcheon: Piano/BILL KREUTZMANN: Drums/PHIL LESH: Bass
    Tony Markellis: Bass/Steve Mosley: Drums
    John Payne: Alto Flute, Bass Clarinet, Tenor Sax
    Neil Rossi: Fiddle/Andy Statman: Mandolin and Tenor Sax
    Jay Ungar: Fiddle/Winnie Winston: Banjo
    Background Vocals: Jack Lee, Andy McMahon,
    Tracy Nelson and The Sweet Inspirations
    

i've probably got a couple of thousand max points but have yet to turn any in

if you need extra forms and you order from terrapin tapes, just ask them to
throw in some blank forms next time you order

- rich, who's still about 800 notes behind

I just picked up the Cowboy Junkies' "Trinity Session" CD.  It is 52+ minutes
of very somber, mellow tunes.  Some of the tunes are sad and lonely, others
are more upbeat.  They also have a cover of Sweet Jane, done very nicely and
slowly.  I'm going through some extremely trying emotional times right now
in my life and I find some refuge in this music.... and, of course, ronnie
earl's music at the sit n bull on wednesday nights.

good CD....

    The Cowboy Junkies did Sweet Jane on SNL a few years ago.  First
    I'd heard of them and I was very impressed.  Still don't have 
    any of their albums though (don't send as much on music as I 
    used to.)  Friends went to see them with John Prine in Boston
    not too long ago.  I think they had a good time.
    
                                              Later,
                                              PeterT
    

  Cowboy Junkies are on of my favorite bands..Trinity Sessions was excellent,
  and their newest album "Black Eyed Man" is just about as good.  In between
  that was Caution Horses which I didn't like at first, but really like now..
  Me and DC and Lydia (she really exists folks) saw them in Northampton in 
  March and they were wonderful...one of the best shows I've seen in a long
  time..

  I have a video tape of a show from Austin City limits.






 Jum

    Cowboy Junkies are to be on the Tonight Show tonight.  Set your vcrs.
    
    Last night they had the Indigo Girls with Jackson Browne adding on the
    vocals.  NIce - but they did only one tune.
    
    There's someone good tomorrow on either the Tonight Show or Letterman
    but I forget who.
    
    Scott
    

I was surprised at how much energy the CJs had, live ... they can definitely
rock.  I was expecting a live version of their studio sound, with Margot
sounding like she's constantly on the verge of falling asleep ;^) ... no way.
One of the most enjoyable shows I've been to in a while.

-dc

    The first Cowboy Junkies album is called "Whites Off Earth Now!!!" It
    was recorded like "The Trinity Sessions" (one stereo mike, no overdubs)
    and sounds similar (though I don't think the material or the
    musicianship is as good). The original release was only in Canada, but
    there was a U.S. issue after "The Trinity Sessions" became a hit.
    
    John

	I think, but I can't recall 100%, that I saw the C.J.s open for U2
in Hartford, CT in '84 or so.  Don't really recall the music or the show.

	Are other C.J. albums similar to Trinity Session?  Sometime, I might 
want to get another one.

    Blackeyed Man is good. Only heard it once, but similar to Trinity
    Session. 
             rfb

 Blackeyed man is becoming my favorite..its a little more upbeat, but the same
 feeling throughout.  The Caution Horses is also quite good, but takes some
 listening for it to settle in.  I listened to it for a year or so before I
 decided I like it.  Also, their first album (originally released in 86 I think)
 called "Whites Off Earth Now" is a nice bluesy thing..I'm not sure if I really
 like it though.



 I have a boot of a show they did at Berklee (?) a few years ago that's kinda
 nice, but would like to fine more. I know they're around.




 Jum Cowboy Junkies Junky

    Airto Moreira   _The Other Side of This_    RYKODISC  RCD 10207
    
    Same personnel as Planet Drum,  plus a few.
    
    It's much more explicitly spiritual;  Airto speaks of
    the healing power of the music.  It's a very good disc
    for meditations...
    
    Highly recommended.
    
    /bruce

So which is it ... utmost or puerile drivel?

;^)

- Dave

    re .219   both!!  (utmost puerile...)
    
    :-)
    
    /b

    Went into my favorite record store to pick up some new releases I've
    been waiting for:
    
    Bela Fleck & the Flecktones - UFO Tofu
      yet another way cool title with wayer cooler cover graphics
      my choice for album names was Intergalactic Cheese, but this was
      close
      Good tunes like "Bonnie and Slyde" (Bonnie Raitt gave Bela a slide
      and he's been learning slide banjo)
      "Life Without Elvis"
      "The Yee-Haw Factor" - Bela has a story about when he was with New
      Grass Revival, they'd go to these really hick bluegrass festivals
      because they were too often booked as a traditional bluegrass band
      which they weren't, and there'd be cardboard signs written in crayon
      saying "bluegrass festival", and Sam Bush's saying was this this
      place had a yee-haw factor of 10
      "Sex in a Pan" - dunno about this one but it was written by Victor
      Wooten so I bet it's an amazing bass tune
      anyone who *still* hasn't heard or seen these guys is really missing
      something
    
    The Eric Clapton unplugged cd is delayed another month :-(
    
    And since my favorite record store didn't have the other thing I was
    looking for I went across the street to Newbury Comics and picked up
    the new Donovan box set.  Yeah, I already have all of his albums, cds,
    45s, imports, you name it, but there's actually stuff on this I've
    never heard.  Cool demo recordings from 1964! Early versions of great
    tunes! Unreleased stuff from the "summer of love"!  They finally listed
    some of the personnel of his early tunes, some I already knew line
    Jimmy Page did the solo on SUnshine Superman, that "Hurdy Gurdy Man"
    was really the first joining of Page, Jones and Bonham.  But - Suzi
    Quatro (remember her? I thought she was cool) on "Barabajagal", Grahan
    Nash and Mike McCartney on another tune, and Alan Holdsworth also on
    Hurdy Gurdy Man.  Also says he's gearing up for a new studio album and
    tour.
    
    Now, just to make you feel old - he's a grandfather.
    
    Next neat release looks like a double Yardbirds set at the end of the
    month with lots of the later Jimmy Page/Jeff Beck material.
    
    Also, part 2 of the live Allman Brothers set should be out soon.
    
    Scott
    

    I read that Donavon has nothing to do with his first child...so it
    wouldn't be her child that he is now a G.father of?????
    
    Bella...I have some live tapes from Calif. real hick bluegrass
    festivals last year and this if you want them...better hurry before I
    tape over them...I don't really care for them/him that much (my
    deadhead/bluegrass friend from SF gives me shit about this all the
    time) 
         rfb

Hmmmm..gonna have to check out that Donovan set..







Jum

    I hate to ask this here, but how could Eric Clapton write a beautiful,
    poignant song about his son's death, then sell it for use in a movie
    soundtrack?  Is artistic integrity an oxymoron?  He's been this way
    ever since Phil Collins got to him.
    
    Jamie

    I love Phil Collins!  
    
    Maybe he felt it had some relevance to the movie!?!
    Maybe he felt it was the best way to get his message across!?!
    
    Who knows why people do what they do.
    
    Why did Phil donate all the proceeds to his Great Woods show
    2 years ago to the homeless in BOSTON?
    
    People do the strangest things . . .

    well not that Im a Clapton freak or anything but the way EC put it was
    kinda like he used the Rush soundtrack as an outlet to free himself
    from the pain he felt and to share his grief with his fans who over
    welmed him with telegrams,letters,flowers...and so on
    
    	also I rather see him write a song to vent his pain than see him
    fall over a bar stool dead drunk....which was his normal way of dealing
    with a life criss, like when his Grandfather passed away and he endded
    up doing beer ads.....
    
    Chris

Phil C. is an ok musician;  i'm turned off to him because he is the epitome
of "pop"/"materialism" in the music industry... musicians like P. Townsend have
a bit more talent, imo, then phil, yet they are not near as popular.

in short:  He sold out.

    So Clapton sold his song for a movie soundtrack.  So what?
    What does that have to do with "artistic integrity?"  
    Musicians have to pay the rent, too.   And this way,
    more people have to listen to it (I am so tired of
    hearing that song! :-).
    
    I don't see too many people donating their time to Digital to
    preserve their programming integrity.
    
    /bruce

    Donovan said the grandchild was the child of his daughter Orion (or
    something like that).  All of his kids (except his stepson who is Brian
    Jones' son, and his son Donovan Jr) have cool stellar names.
    
    The box set comes with 2 books, one of photos with hand written
    captions by Donovan, the other is cd size with all the personnel
    details and several writeups, one by Donovan where he thanks everyone
    that had an influence on his career, one by Derek Taylor and a third
    one.
    
    The sound quality is really remarkable, but there are several tracks
    where they used mono mixes and I know stereo mixes exist, and they used
    the shorter versions (and mono) of Sunshine Superman and Season of the
    Witch where there are longer and in stereo on his Greatest Hits album.
    But if you buy them both, plus the "Catch the Wind" cd (excellent
    remastering of his early stuff) and the really hard to find British cd
    called "The Trip" (I found only 1 copy in London, even though it's a
    recent release on EMI none of the major London stores had it) that has
    some really obscure cuts, you'll have a big chunk of his work.
    
    Anyhow, listening to it last night I heard lots of tunes I haven't
    heard that much, mainly because they're from more recent albums that
    get overlooked.  Great choice of material.
    
    BTW, Donovan now lives in Ireland.  He lived in California for a while
    (once met someone at the Club Casino who lived next to him), but opted
    for the more peaceful life.  He says even Scotland is too crowded for
    his tastes.
    
    Scott_hoping_to_find_the_other_EMI_disc_on_this_trip
               

 Ah, this Donovan talk brings back pleasant memories of my first love :-)





 Jum who's girlfriend was a donovanhead

>    So Clapton sold his song for a movie soundtrack.  So what?

i have to agree, i don't see what a movie soundtrack has to do with artistic
integrity

one of my favorite instrumental CD's is the soundtrack to the movie Birdy, by
Peter Gabriel; although it is the most expensive CD i own measured by dollars
per minute (it's only about a half hour of music, but as an import it will 
probably cost you more than $20)

- rich

    :-) Donovan!  Fond memories indeed.  John and I met in GRATEFUL ...
    He wrote that he was getting ready to order Donovan/Buffy tickets for 
    a Berkely show in 1988.  He asked if anyone else wanted tickets ... 
    the first time we met in person evolved out of discussions about how to
    go about buying of tickets :-) 
    
    carol

    Well, I wrote a long reply defending my position, then our cluster bit
    the dust and I screwed up trying to recover it.  I don't have time to
    re-write it, but my basic statement was that I don't care if he sells
    his songs for movie soundtracks, but I don't understand how he could
    sell that particular song ("If I Saw You In Heaven," I think it's
    called).  I don't see how he could part with something so personal, not
    to mention associating it with an entirely different set of images in
    the film.  I won't get into what I think of alcoholics selling their
    songs to beer companies.  ~/~
    
    I don't have time to argue any more, I'm going on vacation next week,
    so feel free to rip into me while I'm gone.  :^)  Judging by the
    response, I stand alone on this one.
    
    Phil Collins is a very talented musician and producer and a shameless
    shill.
    
    re .227  Pete Townshed "a bit more talent[ed]"?!?  Pete is one of the
    few rock musicians I put in the genius category.  For the record, the
    only others I can think of now are Van Morrison and the Beatles (I
    can't see trying to say Lennon was the only genius among them, or Ringo
    was a mediocre drummer, it's the combination).
    
    Jamie

    Jamie,
    
    	I won't rip your head off but what I wrote was the reason why he
    did "sell" the song....Tears in Heaven is the title...but the real song
    he wrote about he son's death (which was my personal title for a while)
    "Its sad, so sad, 'cus the Circus Left Town" (not sure if that will be 
    the correct title, its kinda long huh, well its a line of the song) 
    will be release as part of the UNPLUGGED package Aug 25.....
    
    Chris

	I agree Jamie, maybe Eric needed the cash, but I doubt it.
	I couldn't believe it when my friend told me this song
	was written towards his son, as we watched this "soap opera
	like" video that accompanied it......YUCK!
	
	Eric using that song for a movie kinda makes me think of
	Roger Waters doing "The Wall" for a masonary comercial ;-)

	As for Phil Collins....well I'm not going to say it

>>    I won't rip your head off but what I wrote was the reason why he
>>    did "sell" the song....Tears in Heaven is the title...but the real song
>>    he wrote about he son's death (which was my personal title for a while)
>>    "Its sad, so sad, 'cus the Circus Left Town" (not sure if that will be 
>>    the correct title, its kinda long huh, well its a line of the song) 
>>    will be release as part of the UNPLUGGED package Aug 25.....
    

	I didn't know that either, I hope the new release is totally
	different so the image that he sold Tears in Heaven is rid.!

re:                       <<< Note 168.233 by STUDIO::IDE >>>

> Judging by the response, I stand alone on this one.

	I wouldn't say that...  I agree.   

	Ken

    Oh, man...I watched the UNPLUGGED, and "The Circus Left Town" is a
    BEAUTIFUL song.  I absolutely loved it.  The beat was even almost kinda
    like a circus.  You know...in that strange sort of way.  But it's an
    absolutely beautiful song, and I'm going to buy the UNPLUGGED release
    just for that.  Though there are a lot of other good songs on it, too! 
    Including the new version of "Layla".
    
    Rob
    

    Yeah the EC concert on Unplugged was excellent, especially the bluesy
    version of Layla. It seems to be getting a lot of airplay at the
    moment, presumably plugging the CD release (I usually play russian
    roulette with the tuner as soon as I hear any dj drivel).
    
    gary

> Yeah the EC concert on Unplugged was excellent, especially the bluesy
>    version of Layla. 

Am I the *ONLY* person on Earth (tm) who really doens't care for the
"unplugged" version of Layla???

Dave(definitely a big-time Clapton fan, despite what hearing EC reminds me of)

    re.240
    
    Yeah, Dave, I guess you are. :)  No, seriously...I like both versions
    of Layla.  Couldn't pick a favorite if someone forced me to. 
    Hmmm...why don't you like the unplugged version?  Or is it just a
    certain dislike that you can't really give reason to?
    
    Rob

> Hmmm...why don't you like the unplugged version?  Or is it just a
>    certain dislike that you can't really give reason to?

I dunno.  I just does nothing for me.  After about a minute of it,
I just get bored of it.

Oh well...Just goes to show, you don't ever know...

Dave

p.s. I also don't like Tears in Heaven, but I feel really bad b/c of
the obvious feelings that went into it...(again, the song just bores
me...)

    re.242
    
    Hmmm...well...I like the bluesy version of Layla just because it's
    relaxing. :)  I used to like "Tears in Heaven" until it was severely
    over-played. :)  Hope they don't ruin "The Circus Left Town" that
    way...  I hate when songs get TOO much air play and people start
    getting sick of them...  Perfectly good songs can get ruined in your
    mind that way...
    
    Oh, I think Clapton is God, too. :)  I like the original "After
    Midnight" better, I must say.  And I like the "Wonderful Tonight"
    recorded version better than the one on 24 Nights for some reason. 
    
    Rob :)
    

    how not to get over kill of a song you like....don't listen to the damn
    radio ! go buy the CD/tape/LP and kill it yourself over several years
    not the song mind you just the source....
    (this use to work but with CDs now you rilly can't kill it so easily as
    before)
    
    Chris

    re .240
    
    So, of what does 'EC' remind you?
    
    re .243
    
    Clapton's first cover of "After Midnight", or J. J. Cale?
    
    gary

    re.245
    
    Clapton's first cover of it. :)  Never heard J.J. Cale.
    
    Rob
    :)
    

    I think EC did a good job of answering the question on the UNPLUGGED
    show when he explained WHY he wrote/did waht he did with the
    song....from the horses mouth...
                                    rfb

    
    
    Gee, no one mentioned what I think is the best tune from "Unplugged."
    
    "Lonely Stranger" (2nd tune on the tape) blew me away.....
    
    "Running on Faith" is also awesome......actually, the whole DAMMED
    thing is great!
    
    Hogan

    IMO - "Layla" is the best tune from "Unplugged" ... "Running on Faith"
    is a close second.
    
    >> actually, the whole DAMMED thing is great!
    
    You can say that again ...
    
    >> actually, the whole DAMMED thing is great!
    
    ... thanx ... ;^)
    
    			... Bobbb
    

    ACTUALLY - since we ARE talking about EC and Layla .. this won't
    really be a degression :  When I saw Eric at the Metro in 1986 (?) with
    1499 other people (an intimate group), he was recovering from dealing 
    with a kidney stone and he sat through most of the show.  I saw him do
    'Layla' unplugged that nite...what a thrill.  actually - just looking
    at him is a thrill .. BUT  i digress  :-)
    
    c

	For shame Carol, no digressions allowed in this topic!!  :-)

Lisa

I love the acoustic version of Layla.  I got a bit sick of the electric version
we're all familiar with - especially the end with the piano.  I have gotten
into the habit of turning off the song when I hear it on the radio (don't feel
bad, I do it to a lot of songs).   It's a great song, don't get me wrong. 
Right now I prefer the unplugged version because you can hear all the chords
nice and sweet.  The "blue notes" he adds in passing between chords is very
chilling.

I've also been turning off Tears in Heaven not so much becaause of the song but
for what it was written for :-(.  If I want a little more upbeat tune like that
I'll play Wonderful Tonight.

adam

    
    
    	re Clapton selling out on Tears in Heaven,..
    
    		Its a hard one Jamie,... I don't want to beat you
    up about it,.. but I don't want to defend EC either. I mean,,.
    I just don't want to sit in judgement on anything...
    
    		I really don't know where I stand on the whole selling
    out issue,.. but I just gotta say that this comment:
    
    
re Bruce Laru
    
    >    I don't see too many people donating their time to Digital to
    > preserve their programming integrity.
    
    	although tongue in cheek I'm sure (yes Bruce?) really puts it
    in perspective.. as well as making me crack up and fall off my chair
    :-)
    
    	I mean,.. We really can't ask him to give it away Jamie,.. you
    know,.. just make that music and we'll just listen but not pay? Or
    don't use it in a movie to make money? I see where you're coming from
    speaking of "artictic integrity",.. but,... well,. like I said,.. its
    a tough one.
    
    	Anyway,. now I don't even know why I bothered to reply here so
    I'm-a-gettin'-out
    
    						/The_Vononator
    
    
    /bruce

>   re .240
>    
>    So, of what does 'EC' remind you?

EC reminds me of Eric Clapton! :-)

(ok, I'll be serious)

EC reminds me of my 'ex'.  We were "together" for 4 years, but
were best friends for 6.  She was a total EC-freak.  I was a big fan, but
I definitely didn't realize his 'god'-status 'til I became friends with her.
We both saw our 1st 2 EC shows together...we would listen to the Layla CD all
the time (that and American Beauty were my absolute FAVORITE things to listen
to on  weekend mornings).  Before I owned a CD player, whenever I would stay
at her house (even when we were just friends) her parents would always play
that CD 1st thing on a weekend morning (we used to party with her 'rents all
the time). That's how I realized that it was awesome morning (read "hangover")
music.

And Wonderful Tonight was a song that was a very integral part of the
transition from being friends to being "together".  (gee, isn't that orignal,
having WT as "our" song... :-) ).

In a nutshell, EC tends to remind me that I lost my best friend.

Ah well...As the old saying goes...Shit happens.

Dave

p.s. Despite all that, the last year or so (since the breakup) has been a
great time for me (well, the 1st few months, sucked, but life's been really
awesome since late January) :-).

    	Re: EC & ex
    
    	It's had a lot to do with my dwelling in a very ugly space in my
    not distant enough yet past. My second, and so far last, EC show, about
    2/3 of the way through she looked me square in the eye and said, "Thank
    you Corby". 
    
    	It's a long story, she knew how I felt about her other lover who
    was in jail. Wow, was I thoroughly stupid!
    
    Very bad space!
    GEOFF (and spell it right dammit, which she refused to do)
    
    Okay it's out, now back to your reguarly scheduled record review.

re:                     <<< Note 168.247 by CXDOCS::BARNES >>>

   > I think EC did a good job of answering the question on the UNPLUGGED
   > show when he explained WHY he wrote/did waht he did with the
   > song....from the horses mouth...
    
    Good point, I was too wrapped up in trying to "pause" through the
    commercials that I didn't really pay much attention to what he said.
    
    In truth, I don't really care that much about this, I mostly just
    wanted to start a good discussion before we rename the conference
    HAPPY_FRIENDS.  :^)
    
    Jamie
    

    Well Happy-Friends.....:')
    
    today is the day of the release of Eric Clapton's Unplugged sessions
    so get to you fav CD selling store and buy it ! it will have some stuff
    that was not on the original brocasting of Unplugged (Rollin' &
    Tumblin' for one {complete not cut by ads}) and one new song "The
    Circus Left Town"......
    
    Chris

    
    >today is the day of the release of Eric Clapton's Unplugged sessions
    >so get to you fav CD selling store and buy it ! it will have some stuff
    >that was not on the original brocasting of Unplugged (Rollin' &
    >Tumblin' for one {complete not cut by ads}) and one new song "The
    >Circus Left Town"......
    
Circus Left Town _was_ on the original broadcast.  He intro'd it by saying it 
was directly about his son since the last night they spent together was at the 
circus.  Maybe they are including a studio version on the CD??

Rollin and Tumblin will be nice to have uncut...

Scott

    Scott,
    
    That was two things about the CD release one that Rollin was going to
    be uncut and that at least one new tune Circus was to also be release
    o-fish-al-lee....and there should be a track or two that was not on the
    original broadcast.....Circus was broadcasted but I huess I worded the
    statement funny....hey whad ya want I's a number guy nots a word guy.
    
    Chris

That's ok Chris, I forgive you this time. 8^)

scott

    I picked up the CD during lunch ($11.66 at Rockit).  Here's the cuts:
    
    Signe
    Before You Accuse Me
    Hey Hey
    Tears In Heaven
    Lonely Stranger
    Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out
    Layla
    Running on Faith
    Walkin' Blues
    Alberta
    San Francisco Bay Blues
    Malted Milk
    Old Love
    Rollin' and Tumblin'
    
    Sticker sez "also available on home video".
    
    Also out is a 4-song EP of the Cowboy Junkies live in Berkeley last
    May.  And even more cool and amazing: Ryko has reissued 3 Soft Boys
    (Robyn Hitchcock's old band) albums, with lots of bonus tracks! Can't
    wait to get home and listen to "Where Are The Prawns?"
    
    Scott
    

    where the hell is Circus ? geessss now I got to go searching for the
    radio-issued CD that its on....unless it will be some type of a B-side
    of say Layla.....hummmmmm
    
    Chris_somewhat_upset

 I'm listening to Unplugged now....what a great sounding recording..






 Jum

    
        when does the bob marley box set "songs of freedom" get released?
     over the summer i remember hearing sometime in september.
                                                 
                                                     ^dave

    I don't know but... I want it. :-)

    
        the friendly lady at the record store told me the bob marley box
      set will be released sept. 22nd. she quoted me a price of 51 bones.
    
                                                          ^dave

re   <<< Note 168.266 by BUSY::IRZA "Bush the environmental president NOT!" >>>
                       -< time to roll those pennies... >-

>      set will be released sept. 22nd. she quoted me a price of 51 bones.
 
you'd probably do better at noteworthy then $51.

re   <<< Note 168.266 by BUSY::IRZA "Bush the environmental president NOT!" >>>
                       -< time to roll those pennies... >-

>      set will be released sept. 22nd. she quoted me a price of 51 bones.
> 
>you'd probably do better at noteworthy then $51.

sounds like you went to Record Shaft, er, Record Town or Shaftberrys, er, I
mean Strawberrys.  :-)

Just called noteworthy in nashua nh (800 648 7972).  due 9-22.  approx price
is $37.44.

/jc

    
      $37.44 WOW!  I was at the mall in lincoln, ri and stopped in to
    get the info, i'm not even sure what the name of the place was. how
    can they get away with that sh!t!!! 
    
                                                            ^dave

    
       I just got off the phone with noteworthy and confirmed that they do 
     do sales by mail. just call the toll free number posted two notes ago
     and they'll send you a catalog/order form. 
                                                        ^dave

	What will the Bob Marley box set contain ?   Is it just a
	nicely packaged box of stuff already available and which 
	I probably already have ?  Or, hopefully, stuff not previously 
	available ?

	Ken

    They mentioned the contents ina Rolling Stone a few issues back.  Lots
    of album cuts, a few singles, some unreleased stuff (which has
    circulated on boots), a few live shows (the Roxy '76 for one).
    Pretty much the standard box set formula.  I'll try to look up the
    details tonight.
    
    Scott
    

Yes, it does pay to shop around for CDs, or anything that matter (BTW, does
anyone know who sells NAK equipment at the _best_ prices in the Boston area?).

Anyways, noteworthy does mail order only.  UPS deliveries.  If you live in the
MA/NH area, you'll typically get the cds in a few days (1-2) !

jc, noteworthy long-time member (acnt # 731 or something like that).

    A little more info about the Bob Marley box set:
    
    It will be a 4-cd set called "Songs of Freedom".  Island (or more
    likely Tuff Gong, Marley's Jamaican label) plans to make 1,000,000
    copies available worldwide.
    
    The box will cover his entire career, from 1962 Jamaican singles to
    1980.  The packaging will resemble a cloth bound book with the 4 cds
    sandwiched around a 64 page book.
    
    Some highlights:
    
    a 7 song acoustic medley from a session where Marley was trying to
    teach Johnny Nash some of his songs
    
    No Woman No Cry - The Roxy, LA, 1976
    
    Why Should I,  Iron Lion Zion - unreleased songs from the early 70's
    
    Redemption Song - from his last show in Pittsburgh, 1980
    
    Scott
    

re           <<< Note 168.274 by TLE::ABBOT "J. R. "Bob" Dobbs in 92" >>>

>    a 7 song acoustic medley from a session where Marley was trying to
>    teach Johnny Nash some of his songs

Oh Gawd :-) - I wonder if its anything like the drunken jam session Cash 
did with Dylan in '69 ('68?), the only salvagable tune from which was
"North Country Fair".  After Dylan leading Cash through some Dylan tunes,
Cash leads Dylan through Cash tunes and old country standards,like : Good 'Ole 
Mountain Dew ("well my ole Uncle Mort, he's a hellava sport, he stands about
five foot two.  He took a snort, now he isn't so short, that good 'ole 
Mountain Dew!"),  Crazy Love (the Van Morrison one _not_ ! - "you can pass
my house, you can pass my hive, but you won't get past my 'forty-five!!!"),
Big River (Dylan does turn in a great vocal here), etc.

I have this insane mental picture of Marley and the Man in Black sharing
a big spliff, and Cash trying to get Marley to do reggae version of country
tunes!!!  :-)))

Josh

    Johnny Nash (as in "I Can See Clearly Now), not the Man in Black, you
    son of a silly person.
    
    :-)
    

Oops.   Never mind!  (Well the idea of Cash and Marley is still pretty funny!)

there is a review of the marley set in the globe today.

    The release date of the Marley set has been moved to next Tuesday,
    September 29.
    
    Also a release date of (I think) October 6 for a video of the Allman
    Brothers at Great Woods, and October 9 for the new Dead video.
    
    Picked up the live Tull acoustic "A Little Light Music".  Lots of tumes
    (17, 75 minutes) with several that they never recorded before.
    
    Scott
    

	Scott, how is the Tull?

	Is is really light music?  If so, this sounds _very_ tasty.
	Please give a quick review, that is, if you have time.


	/tull/fan/jc

    Dunno - I'm at work and my cd player is at home.  The acoustic stuff I
    heard from their radio station tour last summer (anyone have tapes?)
    was excellent, just Ian, Martin and Pegg.  "Rocks On The Road", from
    their last studio album, was great.  This album was recorded throughout
    Europe and the Middle east last May, with Dave Mattacks on drums. 
    Based on the other stuff I've heard I expect it to be nothing less than
    amazing.
    
    I think Ian is pushing Tull into more acoustic music, with them
    cruising through middle age they want to slow down a little.  Suppose
    they do get sick of playing Aqualung after 21 years (and Aqualung is
    not on this disc! :-)
    
    The tracks seem to cover everything from the early stuff (A New Day
    Yesterday) up to the last album, with some songs they rarely do live,
    like "One White Duck".
    
    BTW, does anyone know what the square with red and white triangles
    means?  They're putting it on a lot of cd boxes these days, wondering
    if it has something to do ratings or censorship.
    
    It's a digital recording too.
    
    Scott
    

    Scott,
    
    I think the red and yellow triangles are part of a security system.
    The last time I was in Rockit they ran it through the bar code thing
    that they have.

    Was surprised by Chris when he put on the new Peter Gabriel album 
    "US" last night!!!!!   
    
    Great album -- very much Peter . . . going more towards his "spacier"
    style which he uses on a lot of well known tunes on the "Plays Live"
    album, making them even better!  
    
    Only got to listen to it half asleep last night and this morning, so
    I can't put in a full review yet.  Maybe Chris will . . . he 
    probably brought it in with him!
    
    :) sparky_a_very_big_Peter_Gabriel_fan!

    Well I am a so so (yes a pun) Pete fan....after hearing most of it over
    the weekend on WBCN (they played most of it last weekend) I had to buy
    it ! and yesterday I was in the store getting Julie a tape of that rap
    group Cris-Cross, and when I was slowly heading to the front desk to
    pay for it I was pulled by a force of unknown origin to the new release
    section and noticed the neet packaging of Pete's CD (none, yup just the
    Jewel-box in a anti-theft duehicky thing-a-ma-bob....) well I had lots
    of money in my pocket (why is it when I go into a music store, I seem
    to have lots of money with me ?) so I bought it ! I like it very
    relaxing some very cool sounds but it needs lots more listening to give
    it a complete review !
    
    Chris
    

    check Gabrial's video out on MTV! VERY TRIPPY!!!!!!!!!!!
    rfb

I love Peter Gabriel. So far the only thing I've heard off the new disk is 
"Diggin In The Dirt" and I think it is great.  I can't wait to get this CD 
but will have to at least for a little while.

I've also hear that the 10,000 Maniacs CD is also excellent, though I 
haven't heard anything off of it yet.  Yet another one for the wish list.

Geoff

RE: new PG

Sounds like a good candidate for a MaxPoints freebie!  8^)  I love old PG 
Genesis as well, I was really bummed they only did a melody of old stuff at 
Foxboro, but it was more than I expected.

Me??  I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell me by the way I walk!!

Scott

    
    	Hey, wait a minute, we seem to be overlooking the other purchase,
    that KrisCross stuff. Come on Chris, gives us a review of the
    real new music you got....
    
    

"Here am I, who while away the mornings since you've gone
 Too long have I laid alone, not knowing which way to turn
 And there you are, quite sure that you were right
 Knowing full well that I'd be the first one to go down...

 ...and when it comes down to you and me,
    I ask myself do I really believe in your love,
    and yes, I'm sure it'll work out alright."

Selling England by the Pound...

Grate album, Scott.  One of my favorites, too.  I always
thought they went downhill after Lamb Lies Down on Broadway,
but I guess I'm just dating myself (which is actually illegal
in most southern states ;-)!

tim

    not sure yet, but Im sure Ill be sick of it before long !

    the Lamb Lies Down WAS the last true geneis album!!!
    I saw them perform that concert in 1974-75...fantastic! Also saw the
    previous years tour where they did Selling England stuff...that's back
    when PG dressed the part for every song
    ...Dance of the Giant Hogweeds was one of my favorites!
    
    "The grand parade of lifeless packaging"
    
    If Tiffany had been born a boy her name would have been Rail, for 
    "Rail the Imperial Arasol King" (from The Lamb)
    rfb

    I *LOVE* their second album "Tresspass".  Unfortunately it's their only
    album not available on CD in the US, probably because of who owns the
    rights to it.  Great stuff like "Looking for Someone", "The Knife",
    "Searching for Angels".  It's almost more early ELP or King Crimson in
    style than Genesis.
    
    Occasionally it's seen on import, and really worth getting.
    
    Scott_who_saw_some_giant_hogweed_in_England_this_summer
    

anybody know if gabriel planning on touring in the u.s.?

- rich

Z    If Tiffany had been born a boy her name would have been Rail, for 
Z    "Rail the Imperial Arasol King" (from The Lamb)


Its "Rael", which is "real" spelt sideways. I did a thirty page thesis on 
this album for a philosophy class. Your Boy wouldda been rilly pissed to find 
his name misplelt, rfb!  

Fun evening: Drop a dose, read through the album cover story, then play the 
whole album, following the lyrics on the album sleeves, and try to figure it 
out. rereading/relistening to some cuts may be required.

:-)   :-)   :-)

re: fun evening (*.-1)

i'll have to try that sometime ;^)

- rich

    There's some great Enossification on that album too.
    
    Eno makes a guest appearance on the new PG album.
    I think PG should go back to having untitled albums. It gave them all a
    unified look.  I usually give them numbers or describe the cover to
    tell tham apart (blue car, melting face, etc).  I even blacked out the
    "Security" title from my cd since he didn't give it a title (on the LP
    the "title" was a throwaway sticker on the shrink wrap, hence the first
    disposable album title), so it fits in with the first 3.
    
    Anyone have the Deutsch version of III?  I see it occasionally and
    think it would be a cool album to listen to and not understand a single
    word.
    
    Scott
    

    >    Anyone have the Deutsch version of III?  I see it occasionally and
    >    think it would be a cool album to listen to and not understand a
    single
    >    word.
    
    yeah, i have the german version of Gabriel III; i used to listen to it
    so much freshman year at school that i thought the album sounded
    strange when i listened to it in english; i've also seen II and
    security in german; another gabriel album that's really kind of neat is
    birdy (soundtrack to the movie by the same name); all instrumental;
    it's probably the most expensive cd per minute i've ever seen; only
    about 30 minutes of music, but it will probably cost you about $20
    (it's an import); i really ought to go out and get passion (that is the
    title of the soundtrack to the last temptation of christ, right?); and
    of course, pg-era genesis is also amazing; am i rambling here?
    
    - rich
    

    So what's the deal with Rael?  The Who has a song with that title,
    later adapted as part of "Tommy."
    
    Anyone else catch Sinead O'Conner on Saturday Night Live?  It's tough
    to be shocking these days, but she managed.  If you missed it, she did
    a Bob Marley song a capella and tore up a picture of the pope over the
    lyrics "fight the real enemy."  The audience greeted this act with 
    d e a d silence.  Pretty funny.
    
    Jamie 

>tore up a picture of the pope over the
>    lyrics "fight the real enemy."

i was a bit surprised to see this; somehow i imagine that the snl producers
probably weren't aware that she was going to do this; i understand that a lot
of people aren't too keen on the catholic church, but singling out the pope
as "the real enemy"?  just what is she SO pissed off at the pope for?  i wonder
if nbc will get a lot of complaints on this one

- rich

> somehow i imagine that the snl producers
> probably weren't aware that she was going to do this;

They are claiming they didn't, and that Sinead won't be invited back..

> just what is she SO pissed off at the pope for?

I don't know, but if I had to guess it would be his anti-birth-control and
anti-condom stance...And just his basic lack of addressing the real-life
issues that affect the lives of the people who follow him...

> i wonder if nbc will get a lot of complaints on this one

I heard on the radio this morning that they've gotten over 500 complaints.

Dave

	Sinead may not have any hair on her head, but she sure
	has one across another choice spot ;-)

    re: misspelling names...nah, I've always been a lousy speller and
    intentionaly misspell words for the effect, like RAE instead of RAY
    for a middle name, and RAEANNEN for another middle name...and Kady
    and Arrtie, and Tumbeldown...etc. 
    
    I never did a thirty page thesis on anything....much less a record
    album! but, in the past, I have followed yer other advice, Fog.......%^)
    but then it's awfully hard to read in that condition...that's why I
    gave it up!
    
    rfb

re: Sinead

Wasn't she pissed at NBC for inviting Andrew Dice Clay on the show a few months
ago?  She said she would not perform if he was on (hoping they'd cancel him)
but he was and she dropped out?  This was also tied to Jan Hooks (and Nora
Dunn?) leaving the show for the same reason.

If this is true, I'd take her performance on Saturday as her parting shot at
NBC.

adam_who_has_yet_to_watch_the_video_tape_of_the_show

From reading interviews (in the past) with Sinead, I've gotten two
impressions about her ... she's angry, and she likes to shock people.
Hey, both can be useful in the right circumstances.

I saw her do a show last year at Great Woods ... I was dragged there
almost kicking and screaming, but wound up loving it.  IMO, she
sings great, really belts out the tunes and has a lot of energy.
Puts on a good show ....

- DC

	I thought it was aweful when Sinead screwed up during "Mother"
	at "The Wall" concert in Berlin, I certainly hope she wasn't 
	protesting something there.

	In the paper it was said that she ripped up a picture of a 
	child in her dressing room before the Saturday Night Live 
	show, as well.  

>I thought it was aweful when Sinead screwed up during "Mother"
>	at "The Wall" concert in Berlin

what did she do there?

/rich

	She missed her que on the second verse, and then just kinda
	sat there like she had forgotten what to sing, this is not 
	on the video, but is on the radio broadcast.  By far the worse
	error of the show.

    I thought the worst error of the show was when the sync track
    discombobulated and they had to stop the show and back everything up.
    
    Scott
    

	Yeah your right!!!! Thin Ice,  As I sit here and listen to it, 
	I must say that one is quite the butcher!!!!!    I forgot about 
	that! ;-) I think the rehersals went better then the production 
	itself ;-)  

Note 87.92           Festivals, Rallies, & Other Happenings             92 of 92
SUBPAC::MAGGARD "WashaUffitze & drive me to Firenze" 16 lines  15-OCT-1992 14:05

> Well, I was gettin into it, and I was a bit further back.  Bop(harvey) is a
> really awesome funk band!!!!  These guys were TIGHT!  Do they have anything
> out on disc?  I'd love to have a copy of some of their stuff.

> - jeff

    BOP(harvey) has three CD's. The first, Bread and Circuses, was released
  in 1989 and got fairly good airplay on the alternative radio stations such
  as WFNX. This is still their best recording in my opinion. Also out is a 
  live recording called "The 8x10 Bootleg", and their new release, "Gitchee
  Gummee to Me". The first two are available at most of the club shows. BOP
  is ten times better at a club gig than their big stage performance this past
  weekend, you definately gotta check 'em out. i beleive their only other MA
  gig this month is at nightstage in cambridge on thursday, oct. 22nd, but
  definately double-check cuz they've been jugggling around their schedule
  this month. they should have some discs there. (club gigs are two 50 min.
  sets, usually beginning around 11pm.
     also i wouldn't call them funk, i don't know what i'd call 'em.
    they've been called SKA (whatever that is) and world beat, but
    i think they're a reggae-ish rockish band with horns 8-).
    
                                                     ^dave

Well, I've got 4 CD's coming to me right now via Max-points and if I send now I 
may have them by Christmas. 8^)

I want to get something by Phish and something by Blues Traveller.  Any 
suggestions of which releases by them I should grab (assuming they both have 
more than 1 to chose from)?  I know, I know, live tapes are the way to go, but 
as these will be more or less freebies I might as well get something I may 
actually listen to.

I'll probobly get P Gabriel's new one and maybe Roger Waters' new one as the 
other two...

Scott

       <<< Note 168.312 by MR4DEC::WENTZELL "Just a little sweetness" >>>
                     -< Phish, BT reviews/suggestions??? >-

Well, I've got 4 CD's coming to me right now via Max-points and if I send now I 
may have them by Christmas. 8^)

I want to get something by Phish and something by Blues Traveller.  Any 

If you want a good Phish disc, WAIT UNTIL 'JUNTA' COMES OUT!!!
(although you pb won't be able to get it by x-mas)

I would recommend Lawn Boy for a first Phish disc--better jams than in A
Picture of Nectar.

- jeff

Scott

I really like Picture of Nectar (Phish) but now that I said that someone who has
been to more phish shows that I (a mere 1, boo hoo) is probably going to tell 
me there is something better. And please do - IS there a better phish CD than
Picture Of Nectar, because I really really like Picture Of Nectar.

I also have a Blues Traveller CD (the only one?  either that or the first).
I like it, but I definitely like the Spin Doctors CD (Pocket Full of
Kryptonite) much better!!

Lisa

Scott,

One more thing I forgot to mention.  You can get tapes of Junta for $8 (last
I heard) at a show.  Next show 30 October, at the Garden.

If you're really jonesin' you might be able to talk me into making a tape of
my Junta tape -- but that would be unethical unless you PROMISE to go out
and buy the CD when it comes out (which, BTW, will have 40+ minutes of bonus
tracks to round out the 2-disc set!)

- jeff "getting it clearly through alternate paths" maggard

    The first Blues Traveler is called "Blues Traveler".  The second is
    "Travelers and Thieves".  There's a bonus edition in the stores with a
    live EP recorded on tour with Santana (Carlos is on the EP too).  Wish
    they would sell it separately since I already own the album.
    The first album has "Crystal Flame", my favorite tune of theirs.
    
    You also might want to check out Widespread Panic, for more along the
    same style.  Newest is "Widespread Panic", and their first "Space
    Wrangler" has been reissued with a bunch of new tracks.
    
    Scott_a_few_away_from_a_5th_free_cd
    

    
    
    IMO- Both of Phish's CDs are excellent, but I prefer Picture of Nectar.
    The Spin Doc's "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" is the balls. The drummer
    and bass player GROOVE. Lotsa funky rhythms. They also have a live
    EP/CD which I've heard but am unfamiliar with.
    Blues Traveler is great. Don't let the name fool you though- very few
    "blues" tunes. But they smoke."But Anyway" would be my favorite (if I
    had to pick one: they're all good) of the first CD. "Optimistic
    Thought" and "Mountain Cry" (w/ Greg Allman) off the 2nd CD.
    
    I'm rambling cuz I LOVE all these CD's...
    All are highly recommended. But first, I'd go with the Spin Doc's or
    BT's first. (unless you can get the 2nd with the bonus...20 minute
    "Mountain Cry with Carlos! :-)
    
    Happy tunes...
    Steve-O 
    
    
    

Thanks all!

I already have the Spin Doctors PFOK and I also have the Widespread Panic 
(un-titled?) album with "Send Your Mind", "Pigeons", "Walkin'", etc.  I agree,
a couple of good albums.

RE: Jeff M

Thanks for the offer, but I think I can wait for the CD - no need to push 
the bounds of proper ethics  ;^)  I can't make the 30th show but I'm sure the 
tape and/or CD will make it to my hands eventually. 8^)  Sounds like Junta will 
be a double CD set so unfortunately it won't be available using Max-points 
(they don't allow mutliple CD sets).

Scott

PS - I got the Spin's CD at City Hall Music on Main St. in Marlboro for $10.90 
     regular price, which seemed pretty cheap to me (it's $10.53 through 
     Noteworthy).  I was actually surprised at their (relatively) inexpensive 
     prices on most of the CDs they carry.

          <<< AKOFIN::DISK$FA0087:[NOTES$LIBRARY]AFTER_HOURS.NOTE;1 >>>
                       -< BLUES and R&B Interest Group >-
================================================================================
Note 61.27                        Allman Bros.                          27 of 29
TECRUS::LONELY::ROST "Baba Ram Bolinski"             12 lines  21-OCT-1992 10:19
                       -< New Video and ANOTHER Box Set >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Some new Allmans product coming out:
    
    A video of the band live at Great Woods (in Mansfield, MA) on the same
    tour that yielded the new live album.
    
    "The Fillmore Concerts" a two-CD two hour plus set on PolyGram.  Not
    sure what it contains (guess:  all of "Fillmore East" plus whatever
    else was left off that set in the first place).  This is part of a new
    reissue series from PolyGram that includes two sets from John Mayall,
    some Rod Stewart, etc.
    
    						Brian

    "The Fillmore Concerts" hit the stores yesterday.  You get all of the
    original Fillmore album, plus extra material that later appeared on
    "Eat a Peach" and "Dreams".  It's all edited back together, remixed from
    the original masters.  It's not a box set, just a 2 cd set with a nice
    dust cover and booklet, I paid $23.99 for mine at Rockit ($22.?? from
    Noteworthy).
    
    I saw the Mayall sets, I was disappointed that they didn't include the
    original version of "Room to Move", which was his first single.  They
    chose the '69 remake instead.  The original version has yet to appear
    on any album I've seen (vinyl or cd).
    
    Next week: a 3-cd Jefferson Airplane box set called "Loves You",
    supposed to feature 50 cuts, with half unreleased.  Noteworthy lists it
    for about $30.  And in 3 weeks: a 4-cd Monterey set (will they include
    the Dead?) that probably won't be as comprehensive as the '88 radio
    broadcast, since the boot cds of that show take 5 discs.  But it will
    include a nice big books of pictures that were believed to have been
    lost, but they just found the negatives.  I'd expect a hefty price on
    that set.
    
    Scott
    

 I saw a list of who's on the Monterey Pop thing and I didn't see the Dead
listed (in the most recent Rolling Stone)









Jum

RE:        <<< Note 168.321 by TLE::ABBOT "J. R. "Bob" Dobbs in 92" >>>

>   I saw the Mayall sets, I was disappointed that they didn't include the 
>   original version of "Room to Move", which was his first single.  They 
>   chose the '69 remake instead.  The original version has yet to appear 
>   on any album I've seen (vinyl or cd). 
    
	Scott, What's the orginal version?  Is the '69 remake you refer to the
one with the "there's a bit hoochie coochie in this one" stagetalk line at the
beginning that appears on "The Turning Point" LP? 

I thought "The Turning Point" was earlier than '69, like 67 or 68...

    The original version was recorded by the first Bluesbreakers lineup, in
    '63 or '64.  It was issued as a single but I've never seen it on an
    American lp.  Haven't seen enough Mayall imports to know if there's a
    compilation containing it.  Plus when I saw him a few years ago he
    introduced it as "my first single", and if it was available only on
    "Turning Point" (I believe '68-69) that was way too late to be his
    first single.
    
    Scott
    

    I think Neil Young's latest, "Harvest Moon", finally hits the stores
    tomorrow.  Yahoo!
    
    Heard a cut from Dylan's upcoming acoustic album on the radio this
    weekend.  Great tune, great playing, but I just can't stomach Dylan's
    latest vocal style.
    
    Scott
    

RE: 79.4 (Jamie asking about the Allman Bros Fillmore Concerts)

From memory,

It's a two CD set, and it says on the jacket that everything they played in the 
Fillmore shows used to record the original Fillmore East album is there.  Also, 
they took the original tapes and made a digital master of them, so I assume 
this means it was remastered.

Most if not all of the stuff has been released before, either on the Fillmore 
East album or subsequent releases (Eat a Peach, Dreams box set) except Liz 
Reed, which is a compilation of two Liz Reed's (how this was done is pretty 
well explained in the little booklet by I think Tom Dowd, who I think produced 
it).  Sound quality is as good as any CD I have ever heard, i.e. excellent.

Disc One has has about 7 or so songs, including Statesboro Blues, One Way Out, 
Liz Reed, Stormy Monday, Trouble No More, and I can't remember what else.

Disc Two has Hot'Lanta, Whipping Post, Mountain Jam (entire), and Drunken 
Hearted Boy.

The booklet that come with it explains the album, the shows from which they 
came, and has some good pics of the band on stage.

Scott

    re .-1
    
    Thanks!
    
    I wonder how much they recorded, since there's no way to fit both
    complete shows on 2 cds.  I also wonder how much they edited it (the
    original AFO has some cuts and splices).  guess I'll have to buy it and
    find out.  :-)
    
    Jamie

    They claim this is unedited, i.e. all the stuff they cut out between
    the songs is back in there.  It's mostly from the March (12 or 13?)
    show, with one song from the closing of the Fillmore show and the
    previously mentioned edit.  The source for each song is listed on the
    cd.
    
    These cds are full - about 70 minutes on each.  Also comes with a nifty
    photo book and a slip case.
    
    Scott
    

The Ludlow Garage CDs are well worth it, too...if ya like Allmans.

	~dave

    yes the Ludlow is nice and raw too ! but what do ya want from a 2track
    recorder anyway :')
    
    whats the price for the NEW NEW NEW.... Fillmore East CD ? I've been
    waiting for this day to come after my 2nd LP went south with my
    turntable :')
    
    come to think of it has the Band's Rock of Ages been re-done to include
    the whole show yet ? thats another one I wanna get again....
    
    Chris

    The new Allmans set is roughly $25, less from Noteworthy, more from
    mall type stores.
    
    "Rock of Ages" was redone on 2 cds a couple of years ago.  It's an
    amazing bargain - about $11 for the set, same price as the original
    chopped down single version.  At first I thought it was a misprice, but
    it's that price everywhere.
    
    Just saw that Polydor has reissued a bunch of Elton John cds. ?? I
    thought he was with MCA since the dinosaurs roamed??  They say
    remastered from the original British tapes, with all the original
    artwork and lyrics.  This time they put all of Yellow Brick Road on one
    disc.  There's about 16 in all, figures they do this after I've bought
    most of the classic (pre-76) titles I want.
    
    Oh, just got the Airplane box.  Great price (about $30, not bad for a 3
    disc set), excellent book with lots of blurry color photos, and lots of
    unreleased tunes.  It looks like they included a complete (or nearly)
    show from the Fillmore in May '67.  One tune called "Would You Like a
    Snack" was done with Grace fronting the Mothers of Invention.
    
    Scott
    

    Just picked up the new Monterey box set during lunch.  Nice job! 
    really nice booklet (96 pages) but I think it stillbegs for more
    completeness.
    
    Anyhow, conspicuous in their absence are the Grateful Dead, Simon &
    Garfunkel and Buffalo Springfield.
    
    Brief list of what's on it:
    The Association
    Low Rawls
    Eric Burdon & the Animals
    Canned Heat
    Country Joe & the Fish (only 1 song)
    Big Brother & the Holding Company - looks like a complete set
    Butterfield Blues Band
    Steve Miller Band
    Electric Flag
    Hugh Masakela
    The Byrds (maybe complete set)
    Ravi Shankar
    Blues Project
    Jefferson Airplane (missing "Today" that was in the film)
    Booker T & the MG's
    Otis Redding (same set as on the old album)
    The Who (complete set)
    Jimi Hendrix Experience (complete set)
    Mamas & Papas (complete set)
    Scott McKenzie
    
    Missing are: the Paupers, Beverly (who?), Johnny Rivers (was in the
    radio broadcast), Simon & Garfunkel (in broadcast), Al Kooper,
    Quicksilver, Moby Grape, Laura Nyro, Buffalo Springfield and the
    Grateful Dead, although a few were in the broadcast.  There's a note
    that all Monterey performers whose sets were recorded were invited to
    participate in the set, but a few chose not to do so.
    
    Anyhow, at least there's a photo of the Dead in the booklet.
    
    Still lots of great music!  Some of the profits go to charity.
    
    Scott
    

Rae gave me the Bob Marley box set for my birthday yesterday (a whopping 36...
more than halfway to 70:)  She also knows the women who runs the record store
and got me the promo poster that goes with it...it's the cover of the box.
nice.  

It's A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 CD's that cover from 65ish thru to his death.  Good pictures, notes, lots
of unreleased material (acoustic medleys, live cuts, 12"remixes etc etc).
Great stuff!  4 packed disks.  It comes in the style of a "book".

What else have I been listening to?  
over the last couple'o'months:
The Widespread Panic reissue (fine cover of the T'Heads "Heaven"). Great album.
  I even like it better than the later one.
Wishbone Ash "Live Dates" (they are now getting reissued on CD .. finally!).
Majek Fashek (as good as he was live ... very good!)
James McMurtry's 2nd lp.  Need to listen a bit more but he's dropped the guitar
  and sings/writes for a living...too bad he's opening for ahem, Joan Baez
  or I'd be there...I can sleep at home :)

seeyall,
bobo

    RE: .333
    
    Wishbone Ash...WOW!!! I thought I was the only person who knew who
    they were and still listened to them!!! I love Live Dates and now that
    I know it's on CD have to call Noteworthy and order it!!! Thanx for
    the mention.
    
    Marc

 >Wishbone Ash...WOW!!! I thought I was the only person who knew who
 >they were and still listened to them!!! 

You're definitely mistaken on the first point, and not far off on the second.
I remember the name, but I don 't think I've heard anything of theirs since
high school (emphasis on the first word).  ;-) ;-)

tim

 

    RE: -1
    
    Wishbone Ash...a great dual-lead guitar 70's type band...definitely
    worth a listen, especially the live album!!!
    
    MM
    
    P.S. Who's on first!!!
    

Wishbone ASH!  Great band.  Like -1 said, dual leads and brothers too (Turners).
Lots of good albums!  They sort of "pioneered" the twin lead sound.  

monday again...
I hate when that happens!
bob

yesturday, i went into boston to tower records to get some cds.  after much
laboring, i ended up with:

	- Elmore James CD, a blueman from way back.  

	- Luther Johnson Jr cd - he is now boston-based;  he plays around
	  at the local clubs, the bull included.  awesome voice.  great
	  band.  titled "Luther's Blues"

	- Paul Rishell - country bluesmon.  he opens up for Ronnie on 
	  wednesday nights.  good cd - about 65% acoustic and the balance
	  electric.  titled "Blues on a holiday"

	- Wes Montgomery Trio - a jazzmon from the 40s, 50s, and early
	  60s.  wes plays guitar (never uses a pick), he's got an man
	  on organ and one on bass.  good music to kickback and read to.
 	  titled "A portrait of wes".... he died in '64, i think.

BTW - for the mainstream CD selections, noteworthy beats Tower on price by
a couple of bucks PER CD ...  noteworthy just doesn't have the selection
Tower has...

oh, i also had a guinness at the "littlest bar" and a slice of pizza....
yum...

jc

 Picked up Hot Tuna's new live album (Live at the Sweetwater) after hearing
 it at my brother's Two Floors of Fun (tm) thanksgiving blowout (as opposed to
 the traditional New Years Four Floors of Fun (tm).  Haven't quite heard the 
 whole thing yet, but I love what I've heard.



 And, at the recommendation of Mr Bob White picked up the latest Rory Block..
 Mighty fine stuff there..





 Jum

Jum, could ya type in the play list?

Thanks,

Fog

 Welp, I don't have the cd with me, but I'll type it in when I get home 
tonight.  Bob Weir appears and sings Maggies Farm (which is quite hot) and I
know Pass the Snakes is on there..I just can't remember what else.  I'll post
it tonight (assuming we're talking HFT here)..





Jum

    I bought 'Six String Santa' by Joe Pass on Laserlight for 6.99.
    Definately my favorite Christmas CD ever! Joe is my favorite
    jazz guitar player and he does some amazing versions of all
    the Christmas tunes you know and love. Check it out!

 RE.340

 Hot Tuna Live at Sweetwater  (was $11.66 At Rockit in Nashua)


 Whinin Boy Blues

 Great Change

 Down and Out (knowbody Knows you when)

 Embryonic Journey

 Trouble In Mind

 Bank Robber

 I see the Light

 I'll Be There For YOu

 I belong to the Band

 Maggies Farm

 Genesis

 Ice Age
 
 Pass the Snakes

...And a fine sounding CD I might add..







 Jum

W.Gravy, huh?

Thanks for typing that in, Jum.

I was afraid this was just another collection of the same old same old. Its 
not.

Fog_who_has_at_least_three_HFT_or_Jorma_Albums_that_have_less_than_two_
unrepeated_songs_from_previous_albums.

Subj:	Forwarded: Allman Bros video/Great Woods 9/6/91
CEO comments:
From: Ray Bazzano:DGC
Date: ## 12/08/92 16:38 ##
       

Message:
From: Ray Bazzano
Date: ## 12/08/92 16:07 ##
Just purchased at Lechmere in Worcester. ($15) I'll quote the back of 
the videotape ---  On Sept 6, 1991, the Allman Bros Band "Shades of 
Two Worlds Tour" rolled into Massachusetts' Great Woods. What started
as a video recording of a few songs for a Japanese televison 
program, evolved into this 90 min feature broadcast.
   We, the Allman Bros Band, were so excited by our performance
(and the video recording) that we've decided to share, all of the 
songs that were recorded, with our fans who keep coming out night 
after night to see the band play. You are as much a part of this 
video as we are.          Songs on the tape:
Statesboro Blues, End of the Line, Blue Sky, Midnight Rider, Goin Down
the RD, Hoochie Coochie Man, Get On With Your Life, In Memory of 
Elizabeth Reed, Revival, Jessica, Whipping Post.
                Allman Brothers Band
Greg Allman, Dicky Betts, Butch Trucks, Jaimoe, Warren Hayes, Allen 
Woody, Marc Quinones.
 
If you are an Allman Bros Fan, this is a must video. I WILL NOT
make copies of this because its copywritten, ie:FBI warning. Just
thought you Boston area people might want to buy it at Lechmere.


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 This is an excellent video, FWIW.






 Jum who told his kids he'd love it for Christmas

I'm psyched to buy this! ($15 too - cheap!).  I was at the show, and I loved
it.  It's nice to see, after the fact, that the Brothers thought it was
special!

I was psyched to hear Revival and Elizabeth Reed.  Their jams were of the 10+
minute variety, and frequent.

adam_who_also_wants_the_Orpheum_album_from_this_year

     My favorite part of the video is watching Dickie and Warren's faces
    as they play leads...
    
                    :-)

My bro gave it to me last night!!  8^)  8^)

I haven't watched the entire thing yet (looking forward to seeing/hearing Liz 
Reed), but the sound quality is awesome, I am quite impressed.

Scott

    
    Anyone ever heard of "Cosmic Freeway"???  I think that was their
    name...
    
    I was listening to the radio last night and they played a cut
    from the new music file and it was this band.  They sounded
    so much like Slipknot I had to wait and listen for the name at
    the end to be totally sure it wasn't.  
    
    I guess they're out of Nevada.  Sounded like good stuff!!!!
    
    MJ

    oooo man I just heard a track from the new Jack Bruce CD the track is
    called "Will Power" Clapton plays on it....nice lead breaks !!!
    classic Jack vocals ! I don't know the name of the CD but it looks like
    the next one I buy for sure.....
    
    Chris

    I heard that at lunch, also heard Ginger Bakers new band Masters of
    Reality...REAL GOOD!!!!
    
    rfb
    also heard David Bromberg "When you wake up in the morning, you got
    bullfrogs on yer mind"  %^)

    That's the Bullfrog Blues...cool song, but only one of many...almost
    as good as "Will Not Be Your Fool"
    
    tim
    

    
    re.353
    
    Chris, I take it the CD is already out.?
    
    Don

    yup that was the idea that was put into my mind !
    
    Chris

    heard an interesting acoustic version of "sittin on top of the world"
    on WERS this morning on my way in...  i tried to catch the artist but 
    i missed all the names...  i do believe i heard David Grisman mentioned
    though...  sounded like him too so mebbe it was...  much slower than
    the dead's version... country/grassy feeling...  quite nice...
    
    					da ve

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I got Great Deceiver for my birthday and I'm no longer complaining
about it not having any material from the earlier King Crimson bands.
(Actually, it has Peace - a Theme and Cat Food and more material may
come later.) I'll post the entire song list in the next reply.

This box set is a Crimhead's wildest fantasy come true. Imagine Robert
Fripp sifting through his personal collection of live King Crimson
tapes from the Bruford, Wetton, Cross, Fripp era, selecting his
favorites, and making them into FOUR disc box set! I would have been
blown away by two or three discs. Four is simply amazing.

Some people might wonder why anyone could listen to that much live
Crimson, particularly when several songs are repeated. The answer is
that King Crimson (longevity aside) was a lot like the Grateful Dead
in that they played group improvisation, experimented with their
music, and took a lot of risks on stage. No two concerts were alike.

If you stop and think about it, there are very few rock bands that
ever succeeded at (or even attempted) group improvisation. Most of the
improvs that you hear are solos. That's a lot easier. It takes a very
special talent for a group to play music that's totally spontaneous
and have it sound coherent.

Anyhow, as Vinny reported a few notes ago, the sound quality is
superb. Fripp obviously took a lot of care in transferring these
recordings to the compact disc format. According to the book that
comes with the box set, he was really ticked when the record company
did such a lousy job with the initial transfer of the albums onto CD,
and then deducted a large sum from his royalties for the shoddy work.
That's the reason for the "Definitive Editions" that came out later.

Like the Young Person's Guide and Frame By Frame (the other box set),
the book contains a wealth of information and photographs. This one
has excerpts from Fripp's diary, extensive reviews of Frame By Frame
(both good and bad), and other writings by band members that convey a
real sense of what it was like to work in King Crimson. I particularly
liked Fripp's description of his conversation with John McLaughlin,
the great guitarist of the Mahavishnu Orchestra, after their combined
concert at Cape Cod Coliseum. (I was at that show but had to leave
because the music was too loud, the atmosphere too hot, and the
audience too drunk and rowdy for my girlfriend.)

I only wish that Fripp hadn't waited 20 years to release this
material. I would have loved to have it back when I could play my
stereo at concert volume. That's hard to do now that I have a wife who
likes classical music and a three-month-old daughter. King Crimson is,
and has always been, music that should be played LOUD! A while back,
probably in an earlier version of this notesfile, someone asked what
people would play if the twin towers of the World Trade Center in NYC
magically turned into stereo speakers. There's only one answer that
comes to mind for me: King Crimson at maximum volume. Larks' Tongues
Part One. Or maybe Fracture.

I suppose I'll have to be satisfied with taping it and listening on my
Walkman as I walk the dog to the park each morning. People I pass
probably wonder what kind of awful noise is coming out of my
headphones. I just smile.

Barry
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CD 1	Palace Theatre
	Providence, Rhode Island; June 30th, 1974

	1.  Walk On ... No Pussyfooting
	2.  Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Part Two
	3.  Lament
	4.  Exiles
	5.  Improv - A Voyage To The Centre of the Cosmos
	6.  Easy Money
	7.  Improv - Providence
	8.  Fracture
	9.  Starless

CD 2	Providence ... continued (encore)

	1.  21st Century Schizoid Man
	2.  Walk off from Providence...
	    No Pussyfooting

	Walk on to Glasgow ... Glasgow Apollo; October 23rd, 1973

	3.  Shark's Lungs in Lemsip
	4.  Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part One
	5.  Book of Saturday
	6.  Easy Money
	7.  We'll Let You Know
	8.  The Night Watch
	9.  Improv - Tight Scrummy
	10. Peace - a Theme
	11. Cat Food

	Penn State University; June 29th, 1974

	12. Easy Money
	13. ...It Is For You, But Not For Us

CD 3	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - Stanley Warner Theatre
	April 29th, 1974

	1.  Walk On ... No Pussyfooting
	2.  The Great Deceiver
	3.  Improv - Bartley Butsford
	4.  Exiles
	5.  Improv - Daniel Dust
	6.  The Night Watch
	7.  Doctor Diamond
	8.  Starless
	9.  Improv - Wilton Carpet
	10. The Talking Drum
	11. Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Part Two (abbreviated)

	Penn State University; June 29th, 1974

	12. Applause & Announcement
	13. Improv - Is There Life Out There?

CD 4	Toronto, Massey Hall; June 24th, 1974

	1.  Improv - The Golden Walnut
	2.  The Night Watch
	3.  Fracture
	4.  Improv - Clueless and Slightly Slack

	Zurich Volkshaus; November 15th, 1973

	5.  Walk On ... No Pussyfooting
	6.  Improv - Some Pussyfooting
	7.  Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Part One
	8.  Improv - The Law of Maximum Distress: Part One
	9.  Improv - The Law of Maximum Distress: Part Two
	10. Easy Money
	11. Improv - Some More Pussyfooting
	12. The Talking Drum

Cool!	I'll hafta put that one on my wishlist... (you watching, rache?)

Too bad I'm out of birthdays for 11 months...

    
    Just picked up John Mayall's new CD titled "Wake up call". If you like
    the blues this is a must. It features the Blues Breakers, w/ guest 
    appearances by Buddy Guy,Mick Taylor and Mavis Staples..  Theres 14 songs
    on this CD.
    
    I didn't even have to gives this a chance, loved it from the start!
    
    Don
    
    ps. Chris, I think you'll enjoy this CD.
    
    

     	I was out at Spag's last night buying some things for the 
     house, but not wort chiller since I don't brew yet. I the school 
     house they are selling some CDs, many of which I don't think I'd 
     want to get near. But I stumbled across this one that I decided 
     was worth looking at and then buying. 
     	It's titled "Fleetwood Mac, Greatest Hits Live". I thought, "Hey 
     live, can't be that bad". I read the song titles, only a couple of 
     which I knew, and noticed lots of P. Green in the credits. There are 
     no liner notes at all, ziltcho information beyond the song titles. 
     I'm inclined to believe it's a boot from some time ago, but it's not 
     a bad boot at all. I don't think it's a soundboard because I can hear
     some audience. An introduction by an MC as the band starts presents 
     Fleetwood Mac at the Boston Tea Party. 
     	This is pretty good disk! It credits Peter Green with Black Magic 
     Woman (surprised to me). It opens with Oh Well and also has a song, 
     title I forget, which I know from Clapton's 461 Ocean Boulevard, "I
     get a real good feeling talking to you on the phone". Fleetwood Mac 
     was a great blues band!

     	Does anybody have any idea when this was recorded? When did 
     Fleetwood Mac, with Peter Green play the Boston Tea Party? Where 
     was the Boston Tea Party. 

     I'd guess somewhere around '74
     Geoff

    The Boston Tesa Party was on Lansdowne St. in Boston, behind Fenway
    Park.  It was THE place for music in '69, '70, and '71.  I believe they
    closed in '72.  (I think Axis or some other dance club is in there
    now.)  It was a terrific place.  Sort of like an old garage.  Everyone
    just sat on the floor in front of a 2-foot high platform (the stage)
    and they did psychedelic light shows on the wall behind the band.
    
    The place held a few hundred people.  I saw some great groups there:
    Jethro Tull (before they were big), Allman Bros. (also before the big
    time), a band called Mountain I was fond of in my high school days, and
    others I can't recall.
    
    Lots of fun shows in a small venue.
    
    Bud

re          <<< Note 168.362 by MILKWY::SAMPSON "Driven by the wind" >>>
                       -< Fleetwood Mac plays the blues >-

>     	Does anybody have any idea when this was recorded? When did 
>     Fleetwood Mac, with Peter Green play the Boston Tea Party? Where 
>     was the Boston Tea Party. 

Peter Green, I reckon, split the Fleetwood Mac scene right around late 1969.
I'd guess that stuff you have was recorded at the Tea Party in 1969.  I have
an early Fleetwood Mac one called "Fleetwood Mac: The Early Years" that was
recorded at the Tea Party in '69.  sounds like the ones we have might be from
the same show or the same run of shows... i'd be into listening to that
one!!

jc

The dead played at the Tea Party a lot in '69 too, including NYE.
I also think bands like Led Zeppelin, the Who, and other soon to be
bigtime bands played there as well.   The Plough & Stars in Cambridge,
famous for their great Guinness on tap, has a lot of the advertisements
for these shows on their walls.   Cool stuff.

Ken

    ever hear of Flettwood Macs "A Nice Pair" ? Good cover art on the
    English Album!! %^)
    
    rfb

re: .366 
> ever hear of Flettwood Macs "A Nice Pair" ? Good cover art on the
> English Album!! %^)

Wasn't that a Pink Floyd album?

The Tea Party started out in an old church in the South End.  I saw John
Mayall, Rassahn Roland Kirk, and Joe Cocker (first US tour!) there.  It then
moved to Landsdowne Street (where Avalon is now).

I *saw* Fleetwood Mac at the Tea Party on Landsdowne Street with Peter Green.
It was after Christine (Perfect) McVie joined.  Could this be the same show I
saw?  I don't remember the date...but I do remember sitting within 5 feet of
Mick Fleetwood! :-)

This was all in the days of Lava-lamp light shows, clear flooring with lights
under the floor, etc.

...If only I had known about the Dead then.

	dave_the_old_fart

    yep, Pink Floyd...not enough coffee before I typed that in...
    %^|     <--blush
    
    
    
    rfb

Jack Cutler, who notes here occasionally, saw the dead at the tea party in
'69.... he said it was something like $3.50 at the door and they stamped your
hand.  i think he also saw the Who do Tommy there as well.......

    If McVie is on this disk she isn't singing at all. 
    
    Now that I'm at home, the set list:
    
    		Oh Well
    		Black Magic Woman
    		World In Harmony
    		Like it This Way
    		Only You 
    		Jumpin' at Shadows
    		Can't Hold On
    		The Green Manalishi
    		Red Hot Mama
    		Stranger Blue
    
    Nothing like what you'd expect if "Greatest Hits" were used today.

re          <<< Note 168.371 by MILKWY::SAMPSON "Driven by the wind" >>>
                                -< Familiar?? >-

>    If McVie is on this disk she isn't singing at all. 
 
if your cd is indeed from the tea party, i rather doubt McVie was
there.  

i'd like to hear this one mon, so next time you c'mon over to my pad,
you gotsta bring it, ok?  :-) :-)

    
    I got a great bootleg of Zero this weekend.  It's from
    Portland, 3/7/93....  WOW!  This band jams!!!!!  
    I cannot wait until August 8th!!!!
    
    If anyone has any other Zero boots, I'd love the 
    opportunity to try and beg a copy out of you!  :-) :-)
    
    MJ

    re: Zero
    
    So, MJ, are you starting the tree?
    
    Bud

    
    Well, I'd love to, but since I don't have a stereo...  
    could be kinda difficult... I'll gladly let someone
    copy it though....  
    
    It's good stuff!  
    
    MJ

    
    MJ...I'll plant a tree from your copy..
    
    Don
    

    Info on Rob Wasserman's Trios:
    
Culled from an article posted to rec.music.gdead by tnf@well.sf.ca.us 
(David Gans)

Yesterday I (David Gans) received an advance CD of this record, so I
can attest to its existence.  Scheduled release date is February 15.

There are TWO Edie-and-Jerry cuts, "Zillionaire" and "American Popsicle."
Plus "Easy Answers" with Bob Weir and Neil Young; "Put Your Big Toe in 
the Milk of Human Kindness" with Elvis Costello and Marc Ribot; "White-
Wheeled Limousine" with Bruce Hornsby and Branford Marsalis; "Home Is
Where You Get Across" with Chris Whitley and Les Claypool.  A total of
13 cuts.

-- 

        David Gans      tnf@well.sf.ca.us
                        {apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

    Here is some info on the up coming EC blues CD...Nothing about the
    rumored tour yet...
    
    	(1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA07421; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 18:57:18 -0400
    From: HarveyP708@aol.com
    Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 18:57:17 EDT
    Subject: EC album
    
    Warners just posted this message:
    
    >Artist: Eric Clapton
    >Title: From the Cradle
    >Label: Reprise/Duck
    >CD: 2-45735
    >Cassette: 4-45735
    
    >Selections:
    >Blues Before Sunrise
    >Third Degree
    >Reconsider Baby
    >Hoochie Coochie Man
    >Five Long Years
    >Tore Down
    >How Long Blues
    >Goin' Away Baby
    >Blues Leave Me Alone
    >Sinners Prayer
    >Motherless Child
    >It Hurts Me Too
    >Someday After a While
    >Standin' Round Crying
    >Driftin'
    >Groanin' the Blues
    
    >Personnel: Eric Clapton, guitar, vocals
    >Andy Fairweather Low, guitar
    >Chris Stainton, piano
    >Dave Bronze, bass
    >Jerry Portnoy, harmica
    >Jim Keltner, drums
    >Simon Clarke, horns
    >Roddy Lorimer, horns
    >Tim Sanders, horns
    >Richie Hayward, precussion on "How Long"
    >Producers: Eric Clapton, Russ Titelman
    
    >- Eric Clapton follows his multi-platinum, multi-Grammy-winning
    triumph
    "Unplugged" with a new album that is both a heartfelt tribute to his
    musical
    roots and a compelling reaffirmation of his artistic vision. 
    >- From the Cradle features Clapton performing 16 blues classics -
    including
    works by Robert Johnson, Elmore James and Willie Dixon - with the
    passionate
    conviction of a man who's loved this music for decades (which he has).
    >- "This [album] is me in terms of my musical identity today - where I
    came
    from and what I mean" says Clapton. "And whereever I go in the future,
    it
    will be as a result of this."
    >- Joining Clapton on the album are such master musicians as Andy
    Fairweather
    Low, Jim Keltner and Richie Hayward.<
    
    judy
    

			Four words, I Can't Believe It ! 

		This is down right hot, sweet, raw, fun ! While listening 
	to the CD through headphones this morning, I wonder if we will see 
	some film footage from the recording sessions. I want to see Eric
	standing on his tip-toes while blazing through "Five Long Years".

		On the inside cover of the booklet we see some words from
	Eric, 

			All along this path I tread, 
			my heart betrays my weary head,
			with nothing but my love to save, 
			from the cradle to the grave....


	"soul" was the word his use on the broadcast interview instead he uses
	"love" here.....I guess soul was a little too deep for some people.

		I can't pick out one track I like better then any other 
	track, and I don't think I will be finding that track for anytime 
	soon. This release is just to good a body of work to single out one.

		I also find that the reason I can't pick one favorite track
	is because the way this was recorded, live and as it happened. The 
	only dubbing done was to add a Dobro to "How Long Blue" and a drum
	track to "Motherless Child"...thats it, the rest was recorded as if
	you were sitting on a box in the corner of the studio, drinking a
	beer and scratching the head of Sock, Billy or Treacle. At least 
	Treacle looks like he enjoyed the sessions, judging by the silly grin
	he has in the picture from the booklet.

		The total time of this CD is 60 minutes and 20something 
	seconds, 16 songs that influenced Clapton from the day he started
	to play the guitar. Just think what the tour he will be doing to 
	support this release (he could have just done the tour without
	making the record, IMHO) will be like. Here are just 60 minutes
	of 16 songs....it boggles the mind (mine at least) what he will do
	for the rest of the concert ? And not only that, who will be showing
	up a these shows to possible sit in for a song or two...Doing a blues
	show lets this type of ideas seem very, very possible and inviting.

	Well, after many listens I think I have to give it a rest for awhile.

		Chris

      for an interesting interpitation of "Blues for Allah", check out
    Joe Gallant and Illuminati (a 20 piece jazz band) ...their CD is
    called the "Blues for Allah Project".....there is some real
    mind-blowing jamming going on here....including a little "other one"
    jam in the middle of "Crazy fingers"....goodstuff!
    
               :-)

      I strongly recommend a CD called "Classic Hot Tuna Electric" on the
    Relix label...it was recorded in 1971 at the Filmore west and it is
     "smokin'"...!!!  Just Jack, Jorma, Papa John Creach and some drummer..
    $9.99 at newbury comics when you use a $3 off coupon....

I noticed yesterday at Newbury Comix that Bella Fleck has a double
live CD out...the name of which escapes me now.  Doh!

Dan

    we missed Bela here in colo spgs this week at Colorado College, a mere
    3 miles from our house....just too beat to attend, dam it! also missed
    Tab Benwah (sp) same week.....%^(

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>>    Tab Benwah (sp) same week.....%^(


Tab Benoit!!  Don't care much for Bela or maybe it's because I haven't 
really expended the "listening effort" so don't have much to say about
them but TAB!  excellent!!!

:)
too bad!
bob

    
    benwah?
    
    
    

    perv....  %^)

|    perv....  %^)

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