Conference rdvax::grateful

    
    
    Hi, I'm Mary-Jo !
    
    I have been "lerking" around this note for about a year or so
    and decided it was time to say hello to all the grate people!
    
    I have been a DEC employee for just under 4 years, currently
    working at IND as a Cust Svc Rep on 3rd shift while pursuing
    a BA at the University of Lowell.  
    
    I got on the bus in 1986 and plan on staying on forever!
    I have been to about 6 shows and look forward to many many
    more!
    
    I love this notesfile (and on 3rd shift have plenty of time
    to read!)  From what I have seen the people are super and I
    hope to meet someone you one day!
    
    Hello to all!!!
    
    - MJ
    
    

    
    Mary-Jo,
    
    Thanks for "coming out" so to speak...  Welcome to GRATEFUL, and I look
    forward to reading your future entries...
    
    Treemon

  
  Hi Mary Jo, and Lisa why no mention of David?? ;-)  Yes you seem like
a free spirit, Lisa.

  Feels odd to introduce yourself to those you have communicated with
for over a year, plus I can't write much in here until I have sent /
the three items I owe him.  ;-).  

  John Ryan
  Colorado Springs
  
  you tell me what I am like??  ;-)

BTW - Kathy Shepherd is just entering the fray at my urging, she said
      you all were nice, poor sweet thing, she just doesn't know, any
      of you in Marlboro????  I told her I find out if any of you were 
      her neighbors.  Welcome to Grateful Kathy.

re:     <<< Note 45.4 by CLOSUS::RYAN "it's not the years, it's the miles" >>>
>                  -< I'm still here  ;-), just the same too. >-

>BTW - Kathy Shepherd is just entering the fray at my urging, she said
>      you all were nice, poor sweet thing, she just doesn't know, any
>      of you in Marlboro????  I told her I find out if any of you were 
>      her neighbors.  Welcome to Grateful Kathy.

Well, I'm from Marlboro.  There are a few others in this file from that
illustrious town (the mayor calls it a *city*!).

Introduce yourself!  We don't bite!

Come down to the Hitchin' Post Wednesday night to see the Candles!  It's right
in town, and TreeMan may be there too (he's not from Marlboro, but he can come
anyway :-) )

adam

Re:      <<< Note 45.5 by BINKLY::SIEGEL "In the end, there's just a song" >>>

>Well, I'm from Marlboro.  There are a few others in this file from that
>illustrious town (the mayor calls it a *city*!).

Marlborough *is* a city - check the charter.

Bob

    
    Whelp, I thought I had better put a blurb about my self in the all new
    and improved file.  My name is Jerry Vauk.  I am a lowly coop from the
    University of Illinois.  Go ILLINI - Save the Chief!  I am on my third
    and final :-( coop session.  I work in Hudson and I write diagnostics
    for the EVAX aka ALPHA project.  But let's not talk shop.  This coop
    session I will be here until Aug 2 (my b-day) and then it is back to
    the grind of school.  I am living in Windsor Ridge in Westboro this
    coop term.  I like it a lot - we have a nice place there.  I am living
    with another coop, Jim Piket who is also from the corn state.  
    
    This year I am 21 so I am looking forward to going out and doing what I
    wasn't supposed to do last year.  I look forward to seeing Slipknot. 
    My first Dead show was in '85 at Alpine Valley.  I used to see the boys
    there every summer - it was grate.  I would spend the week up there and
    enjoy the outdoor afternoon shows - but Alpine has added its name to
    the list of lost venues.  
    
    As far as hobbies I of course love to collect tapes and I used to play
    hockey.  I say used to because I got an injury my senior year.  I
    dislocated my shoulder - yuck.  I went to check this guy and well I
    wanted him to really know that I was there so I was going kinda fast
    and as ususal out of control.  He saw me and slowed down just enough so
    the force the hit was against the boards.  My shoulder bone sliped out
    and into my rib cage.  I then had surgery on it later after it kept
    slippin' out.  I now have a metal screw in it but miraciously it feels
    the same as my other shoulder.  
    
    It is good to be back - I shure missed the file.  Grateful is not only
    a great source of information but friendship as well.  
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry Vauk

    Well, dudes and 'dettes, I'm movin' on. I'm taking a new job in
    Pittsburgh (don't tell me that town ain't got no heart!) and outside of
    DEC. I'll still be over on rec.music.gdead, I guess, but I wanted to
    thank those of you whom I've read, replied to, and even MET (gosh!) for
    being well-connected 'heads! 1991 holds all sorts of promise for me,
    you, and the world (reGARDless of appearances) and will include my 10th
    anniversary of getting on the bus (too bad no Pittsburgh show in May!).
    I'll be on the Internet at travis@transarc.com -- send mail if you want
    to link up with me at Pittsburgh, Maryland, Ohio shows (Hampton is in
    range too! Have Deadmobile, will travel)... on the road, look for a
    brown Toyota with Pennsylvania license "2CA SHO" or "1MO SHO". That'll
    be me and mine!
    
    -wt

    may the four winds blow you safely home!!!
    
    				da ve

Now that's I'm at a new location, I might as well put something in about
myself.

I started at DEC as a co-op around this time in 1987, and was such until being
hired permanently in August, 1989.  I got into the Dead as a result of finding
this notes file (now you all have something to be proud of! :-) ).  From my
first day at DEC until this past Monday, I was a Software Engineer in Low End
Diagnostic Engineering (MLO 21, although, for the past 1.5 years, I was loaned
out to a group in Hudson, which, incidentally, was the cause of what I am about
to explain).

A few days before Thanksgiving last year (great timing), I was notified that I
was on transition.  I had no intention of leaving the company, so I immediately
started looking for a job.  I saw my situation as a great opportunity to find a
job more suited to my desires, and, luckily, I landed a job in Low End Networks
and Communications (LeNAC) as a Hardware Engineer.  I am now back in the Mill
(MLO 3-5, pole 28A is actually *in* my cube!).  I think I am safe from the
layoffs since I just got a job in a group that had a requisition for an
opening, so supposedly I am needed here.

One of the reasons why I love to work here is this file.  If it wasn't for the
Grateful Dead, I wouldn't be in this file, and if it wasn't for this file, I
wouldn't be into the Dead!  Figure that one out..

I guess this is our own little microcosmic, cyberkinetic, symbiotic fun
machine!

bye,

adam

    
    Dave has created a bunch of notesfiles, Adam... Dejavu and Grateful
    included.  He may not have been thinking specifically of you when he
    started Grateful but your energy and that of all the Deadheads was 
    there with him from the beginning.  We are glad it drew us together.
    
    Mary 
    
    	"inspiration, move me brightly, 
         like a song of sense and color
         hold away dispair
    
         more than this I will not ask
    	 faced with mysteries dark and vast
    	 statements just seem vain at last
    
    	 Some rise, some fall, some climb
    	 to get to Terrapin"

    
    
    
    
    Moderators: With the possible exception of the name "Pillar" (which is
    a dead project), none of the information in this note is propriatary.
    All projects discussed are announced, and all information about
    cancelled projects has appeared in trade publications.
    
    I'm John Hamby. I joined DEC in May 86, and found my way into
    Grateful.note shortly thereafter. I was an irregular contributor to
    Grateful until the middle of 1988, when the Prism program was
    cancelled. Those of you who were not at DECwest at the time probably
    can't understand what that meant to those of us who were working on it.
    
    The project I was working on was a compiler for a new systems
    programming language called Pillar that was to be used to implement the
    Prism operating systems. The Pillar project survived Prism by a few
    months.
    
    All of the senior talent in the Pillar team left Digital. I decided
    that DEC wasn't going to get rid of me without a fight, so I decided to
    spend all of my work time on my next project. Regrettably, this meant
    deleting Grateful from my notebook. The company needed an ANSI C
    compiler, so what was left of our team regrouped and set to work. As
    nobody qualified for the job was left, I appointed myself compiler
    architect and wrote most of the front end. This compiler has been
    announced (as DEC C) and is available on RISC/ULTRIX. When a different
    engineering team completes the VAX port it will be available on VAX/VMS
    and VAX/ULTRIX.
    
    I'm presently implementing another compiler. It's not an announced
    product yet, but it's the obvious follow-on to a C compiler.
    
    All of the above is just to explain my extended absence, and to show
    that not all of DECwest is floundering. (Though what Gordon said is
    largely true.)
    
    I started collecting Dead tapes in 1977, had all the records by 1980,
    and attended eleven concerts in 1981-1982. (I'm still hoping for a
    decent-quality tape of 3/7/81.) At that point I felt like I had gotten
    what I needed from Dead concerts, and felt fed up with some of the
    all-too-well-known problems of the Dead scheme, so I gave up my seat on
    the bus. I still love the Dead's music, and keep up with an occasional
    infusion of tapes, but I'm not really a Deadhead anymore. (Change
    that. I'm a Deadhead who doesn't go to concerts.)
    
    Why am I back? Grateful is an interesting, fun, and supportive forum.
    Deadheads don't think straight. It feels good to communicate with
    people who have shared some of the life-shaping experiences the Dead
    can provide.
    
    My musical interests continue to broaden--I'll listen to almost
    anything in hopes of finding something in it. My favorite rock band
    (The Dead don't count--to call their music "rock" is to exclude most of
    what makes it interesting.) is probably The Saints--their albums "All
    Fools Day" and "Prodigal Son" are worth a listen. I still haven't
    gotten to the bottom of Thelonious Monk, and I can barely get my mind
    around Ornette Coleman. (Check out Coleman's "In All Languages".) I
    enjoy Cecil Taylor, but I'm still trying to figure his music out. Steve
    Lacy is another favorite. In certain moods, I find the music of Charles
    Ives entirely satisfying--the end of his second string quartet as
    performed by the Julliard Quartet is transcendent.
    
    Just in case anyone's wondering, I did eventually buy a CD player,
    because too much of the music I wanted wasn't available on vinyl. I
    got the cheapest one that wouldn't drive me out of the room (a NAD). I
    resent the damn thing enormously, and feel no guilt about enjoying my
    records much more than CDs.
    
    John

    Good to hear from you, John.  
    
    Let me guess: it's raining in Seattle.   ;*}
    
    - Gordon_who_really_likes_the_California_sun_but_misses_Seattle_anyway

    hey now John!  i second that welcome back motion!!
    
    interestingly enough, i *was* wondering where you'd been lately
    as i peruse the member list!  :^)  nice to know you're still out there!
    
    					da ve

Hey now John.  When I saw your node name I freaked a bit.  I haven't seen that
name since at least 88 or so!  Welcome back!

I worked on the Prism project, too!  I'm happy to say I'm one of the
priviledged few who actually wrote code for that cpu!  Even though it was only
run in simulation.  Vectors are cool, especially for writing memory
diagnostics!   I was a co-op then, and it wasn't cancelled til after I finished
that co-op, so I wasn't devastated or anything.

Good luck on future projects.

adam

Hi, John!!

I remember trading tapes with you a few years ago.  Glad to see you
back here.

peace,
t!ng

John,

	You were the very first Dechead I traded tapes with!

Welcome back!

Fog_who_now_has_586_of_'em

RE: cancelation.    
    
>    cancelled. Those of you who were not at DECwest at the time probably
>    can't understand what that meant to those of us who were working on it.
 
I can relate mon.  I went through a product cancelation about 1 year ago.
It was a great project -- virtual machines for the VAX.  Lots of hard working 
people committed to doing a top job.  All down the tubes.... sad times...
some people cried when the decision was announced...  I just went out and
had a lotta brews ... 

re: .18

Yah. JC.  But you went off the deep end.  You got so pissed off that you
went and joined the security police!  Yikes!

	:^) 	:^)

	- Dave_who_didn't_like_Inspect_at_first_but_is_changing_his_mind

    >	- Dave_who_didn't_like_Inspect_at_first_but_is_changing_his_mind
    
    Hmmm.  Didya see that, Lisa??  Maybe I'll call and bother Dave on
    Monday!  :-)
    
    Phyllis_who_just_can't_wait_to_see_the_results_of_her_inspect_run_this_
    weekend_;-/
    
    

You may certainly call me.  I'm following the guidelines on implementation and
have my workstation compliant with Phase 2 implementation of Inspect (which
is not due until the end of March).

Get your licks in next week...I'm off to 5 weeks of Ultrix U starting 18-Feb.

	- Dave

    
    Phase 2?  Oh great.. ;-/
    
    Actually, this run was pretty good.  Only 1 thing to fix, but the
    lockdown didn't do it.  I'll call you later..
    
    

It is a long, strange, and wierd story on how I ended up where I am today 
(working on Inspect).  Can't say I love it... I guess that is why I have an
auto-extracter running on the JOBS notes conference daily.

JC, who prefers OS-type work...

I just returned back to DEC, after 1 1/2 years on the GEEP program.
I used to work in Spitbrook, but am now with the Database Systems Group
at NUO.  It sure is lonely over here.  If there are any other noters in the
building stop over and say Hi.  I am right near pole C7!

I just got my new workstation up today and could not wait to enter a reply.

I could not believe EYES:: was not already taken.  That was my first choice -
since Althea was already taken.

    Hi-ho
    
    After seven and a half years, I've finally escaped from PSS, err.  SPS,
    um.. EIS  ah.. delivery  hmmm, what are they called this week?
    
    I've just joined ESG - Left Coast version, and am working on
    powerframe.  No longer are I a software specialist (what a silly title)
    but now I are a en-gin-eeer.
    
    Which means I now have a new mail address.  ESGWST::MIRASSOU should
    reach me, or mirassou@dfe.dec.com is rumoured to work too.
    
    John

    
    
    
    	Hey,  I'm at NUO also.  What a wonderful building!! I'm at 
    	H06 behind the cafe....I'll stop over sometime and same for 
    	you. 
    
    	Nicole :-)

     Hi everyone! 
    
     My name is Sean O'Connor, I've been mostly reading this notesfile for
    about a year and a half, I thought I'd finally enter my reply now since
    Digital just recently hired me and I am no longer a contract worker.
      HOORAY!!!
    
     I worked at NRO for a year and a half and I've been here at SHR for
    a year also, I work 2nd shift in Wafer Fab, soon to be moving to a
    special weekend shift, (more time for touring!) 
      I've been into the Dead since 1980 and saw my first show in Prov.
    1982 and have seen many shows all over the country since, I also play
    guitar (who doesn't), I think this notesfile is grate, I've already
    met a few of you people and hope to meet more.
    
     Happy noting
    
     Sean
    
     
    
     

Congrats, Sean!!  So glad you made it! Its quite a feat these days to do, too!

Welcome abroad

Fog

Howdy Sean and welcome, welcome .....

You'll have to come into work "early" someday and us SHRHeads (tm) will
"do lunch" .....

Lisa

    Hello everybody!  You may or may not know me.  I have been very quiet
    and very uninformed lately as far as notes conferences go.  I don't
    really think of myself as a "serious" Deadhead (maybe cuz I've never
    done a whole tour) but I can't really deny it.  I have been working 
    in Hudson, Massachusetts for almost 3 years as a CMOS chip designer.  
    You may have noticed my bright yellow CRX in
    the parking lot (I guess I'm pretty eccentric) with the tiny "face"
    on the back, the TOURS'R'US sticker on the driver side, and the smiley
    sun on the passenger side.  To make matters worse I play bass
    guitar (5-string right now but I'm considering playing more 4-string
    fretless) in a band that plays out occasionally.  One third of our play
    list is Grateful Dead or songs covered by them.  Some day we might get
    a keyboardist if we can find the right person.  I live in Newton so
    I tend to socialize around Boston rather than out here in the 
    boonies (Hudson, Marlborough, Maynard, etc).  I've seen the Candles
    more times than I probably should have (they all know my name and Helen
    always expects to get a peck on the cheek).  My hair is straight and
    hangs about down to my nipples (keep it clean, eh Lisa ?) and if I
    didn't have so many great partying friends I'd might be a lot
    healthier. :-)  Some people call me Skippy or Skip because of my often 
    energetic nature and my occasional similarity to a scratched record.
    
    What more could anyone need to know ?
                                   
    				Jon

    Hey I know a guy quitethat fits that description to a T,...
    
    All except for the keep it clean part :-)
    
    Hi skippy!
    
    					/who_although_he_probably_never_said
    					so_sees_a_lot_of_himself_in_Jon
    
    					

I guess since I've put a couple of notes in here I should properly introduce
myself. 

I'm Chuck Freiwald, a database system gypsy out here is beautiful Colorado 
(CXN). I'm a lover of the outdoors, music, reading and political dissent. ;-)

Right now we're real busy, which is unfortunate; with the Dead show so close
it's getting hard to concentrate.  

:-Chuck

    Hi Chuck, Where bouts are you in CXN? I'm in CXN2 pole C-2-3.
    I'll look ya up sometime.
    
    rfb

I'm in CXN1 pole b-2-7. You can't miss the cube, it's got a large cardboard
cow and the biggest wedge of cheese you've ever seen sitting on the edge.

Given the above guess which state I come from. ;-)

:-Chuck

>              <<< Note 45.34 by COOKIE::FREIWALD "Teach Peace!" >>>
>Given the above guess which state I come from. ;-)
>
>:-Chuck


	Couldn't be Wisconsin could it:-)

Geoff

    Oh ya, you betcha! Gota be Wiscosin.  Or maybe Minnesota?  Nahhh.
    
                                                 L

    how 'bout New Jersey? Could be a Jersey cow, eh? 
                                                     rfb

Right the first time, a cheesehead I am. Sometimes I miss the place but there
are no moutains and no work. ;-(

:-Chuck

            <<< NECSC::SYS_CLUSTER:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GRATEFUL.NOTE;1 >>>
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CAPITN::VASQUEZ_JE "ripple in still waters..."       11 lines  27-AUG-1991 11:38
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    I couldn't find an "Intro" note, so I'll enter this here ;-)
    
    My name is Jeri and I saw my first show at Winterland around '79. 
    After a break of a couple of years, I got my husband to a show and we
    were both hooked!  We go to most of the Oakland, Shoreline and Cal Expo
    shows, with a southern Cal trip now and then.  Oh yeah, we made it to
    both shows in Vegas ;-)
    
    We would like to start getting tapes of live shows, so I thought I
    would start here.  Would anyone be willing to help me out?  I would be
    extremely Grateful ;-) ;-) 

            <<< NECSC::SYS_CLUSTER:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GRATEFUL.NOTE;1 >>>
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BOOKS::BAILEYB "Let my inspiration flow ..."          9 lines  27-AUG-1991 12:24
                            -< help on the way ... >-
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    Welcome Jeri ... I thought there was an intro note in here somewhere,
    but I could be wrong.
    
    Anyway ... there's lots of people in here who like to help folks build
    their live tape collection ... myself among them.  I'll e-mail ya my
    tape list, and we can pick up this discussion off-line.
    
    ... Bob
    

This seems like a good place for this...

I just got off the phone with Howard Coffman.  He asked me to say hello
to his friends in this file, to wish everyone well, and to let everyone
know that he is well.

Howard, as some of you may know, was laid off (oh, excuse me, I meant to
say "downsized") earlier this year.  He is still without employment, although
he is hoping to land a job with an environmental company soon (he's got
on on the hook now, so to speak).

Out of work since April -- a sobering thought.

tms

    >> Out of work since April -- a sobering thought.
    
    I have a friend who's been out of work since May 1990.  Six and a half
    years ago when I got laid off at Data General, it took me 16 months to
    get back to work in my chosen profession (the interrim was spent
    working as a landscaper, selling Christmas trees, and looking for a
    job).
    
    Times are tougher now than they were then.  Anybody who's got a job at
    all should consider themselves fortunate.
    
    ... Bob
    

    RE:anybody who's got a job at all should consider themselves fortunate
    
    ya got that right...esp. if ya got a family.
                                                rfb

    Yes... I agree.  I hope we can find a way to turn this around soon.

    I have 10 more days to consider myself "fortunate".
    
    Scott :-/
    

re:                        <<< Note 45.45 by BCSE::ABBOT >>>
   
   > I have 10 more days to consider myself "fortunate".
    
    I've got 55 left, myself. :-/

    Do you have the option of looking for a job within the company, or is
    it "involuntary separation"?
    

    I have the option to look within the corporation but in these days
    of specialization there really isn't much demand for a software-type
    jack-of-all-trades.

FYI -

We have a  Sr Info Spec (16AB??) open req working in the maintenance and 
development of Financial Software applications...  In Co. Springs...

More info upon request...

Glenn

I'm fortunate in that I still have a job, and hopefully will continue to do
so for a while..I have however sent resumes for a couple of jobs in other parts
of the country and never heard a response..I called the recruiters that posted
the jobs, said I was sending my resume, waited a few days and called to see 
what's up...the response?? "Huh? I don't think I got your resume..when did you
send it?"  I tell them when I sent it...their response? "Give me your dtn and 
I'll call you back"....still waiting.  I decided against relocating, but if 
I were really looking for a job, I would hope for a little more support from
the recruiters...and I can't help but wonder what those folks about to lose
theirs are encountering from personnel..




Jim

    Ditto Jim...I have sent out feelers..found out the hiring manager etc.
    then would hear nothing or "We're gonna take this posting down"..you 
    really begin to wonder how many of those postings are real...
    
    rich

 Believe it or not, the day after I posted that note, I got mail from the
recruiter who wanted to set up an interview :^/






Jim

    Hello all you Dead Heads....It's *grate* to know that I am not alone..
    I have been a Head since 1975 or so.  I have to admit that I am a
    little removed from concert goings, my last being in 1980.  But I 
    was a kid who knew/loved the Dead long before others!  
    
    Kind of like: The bottle was dusty, but the liqour was clean.
    
    My all time favorite song is "Viola le Blues" , a really old tune!
    
    Will be noting, 
    Candi

    welcome Candi!  :^)

    Welcome Candi,.. you are definitely far from alone once you
    discover this conference..
    
    Peace
    
    							/Bill
    

    Howdy Candi ! 
    
    	SHR DEChead welcoming committe chairperson 
    
    	Chris

hi Candy. I, like you, hadn't been to show since 1980 until I discovered this 
conference and how easy it really is to get tickets to dead shows!

Fog

And another welcome to Candi!!

peace,
t!ng

    howdy do candi
    
    rich

    This is my new, new, where the hell are you note: I've moved.
    
    I am now the newest Pricipal Software Engineer in the TCP/IP Services
    for VMS (a.k.a. VMS/Ultrix Connection) group in Spit Brook.  Vital
    information includes:
    
    Tim (LASSIE::) Grady
    
    Mailstop:		ZKO3-3/U14
    
    DTN:		TBD (I didn't get one yet)
    
    Home Address:
    	1 Pavillion Rd
    	Amherst, NH 03031
    
    Home Phone:		603-672-2816
    
    I'm still fumbling my way around ZKO - even got lost once.  Now, where
    is this place in Amherst that sells beer at grate prices? ;-)
    
    Actually, the move really sucked.  The closing on my house fell
    through, and we're still battling it out with the lawyers, I got a
    flu-from-hell just before Christmas that still keeps me up coughing and
    I've constructed Mount Trashmore in my garage from all the crap I moved
    from Tampa because I didn't have time to throw it out first. :-)
    
    On the other hand, I'm REALLY excited to be up here.  The product I'm
    working on looks interesting (UCX), I really like New Hampshire (and so
    do my kids), and I'm a short ride from the Whitehorse and my first
    Slipknot show (coming up on the 18th)...
    
    It's grate to be back...!
    
    tim
    

Hey Tim!! Good to have you back!!  Have fun up there in ZKO_land .... something
about that building, I always get lost too.  Haven't gotten lost in the Mill
yet, and I've been there more than spitbrook.  But then again, in the Mill
everything doesn't look the same.

Lisa

alright Tim!!!!!!!!!! can't wait to meet ya...think we should have
a DEChead (northern) lunch soon?!?

Debess

Welcome to the north Tim. I look forward to meeting you soon, definitely on 
the 18th at the Whitehorse.

Geoff

    you New Englanders keep an eye on Tim G. will ya? He's a hell of a nice 
    guy,but watch out when that gleem comes to his eyes! %^)
    
    rfb                                        

    Welcome Tim.  I second the lunch motion... all in favor say aye.
    How can you get lost in ZKO? Each floor is a square and they all look
    the same, and in 3 or 4 years you may have the pole numbering scheme
    figured out.  Even the building numbering scheme is a little weird (1
    is between 2 and 3???), but at least floor numbers are the same from
    building to building.
    
    Scott
    

	Tim,
	You still looking for a copy of 6/22/74 or 6/23/74, one of which was
	your first show?

	(I have 'em!)

	Josh

    The '74 Miami shows weren't my first (that was in Philly, '73) but they
    were amoung the best.  Yes, I'm still quite interested in them. 
    Someday I'll get a 2nd Nak and start reciprocating on these tape deals,
    right now I only have one CR1A.  I'm working on it, though.
    
    The weird thing about ZKO is how they put floors UNDER the main
    entrances.  I mean, you walk into ZKO1-3, or into ZKO3-2, etc, and
    then you walk DOWNSTAIRS to get to some parts of the facility.  Also,
    you can't see how HUGE the place is from the outside - you have to
    wander around and get lost to do that!  Fortunately I'm just warped
    enough to get a kick out of this.
    
    The most impressive item I've seen in my first week here is the
    dedication to MLK on the second floor bridge between ZKO1 and ZKO3. 
    Nice.
    
    I'm definitely up for a lunch.  Name the time and place, and I'll be
    there.
    
    tim
    
    P.S. I love it here...
    

    Yeah, one thing that impresses me about the ZKO1 and 2 entrances is how
    well they've hidden the size of this place.  If you like walks in the
    woods (or skiing if we ever get snow) there's some nice paths out back.
    
    What type of eats do you like Tim?  Around here we have Chinese,
    Indian, Thai, Mexican, Japanese, and plain old American.
    
    Scott
    

welcome Tim! I'm in ZK1-3 (down by the back entrance to the cafe) if you're 
in the neighborhood. Cheap beer in Amherst? I grew up (vs matured) in that 
'burb and don't recall too many low ale prices. Certainly not Moulton's, the 
store in the center of town. Perhaps the Homestead on Boston Post Rd. There's
always Shaws Supermaket in Milford, which is on 101A just before the White horse

Where in Amherst is Pavillion Rd, generally speaking? 

anywho, welcome

jeff

    a.)  I eat anything that doesn't eat me first ;-)
    
    b.) Pavillion Rd. intersects South Baboosic Lake Rd about two miles
    east of 101 (not 101A).  Take a left on Pavillion to get to the public
    beach.  I'm renting a house on the corner of Pavillion and S. Baboosic.
    It's a nice area - lots of rural properties with horses, etc.  I have a
    feeling it's gonna get busy in the summer - it's already a fairly
    active corner for such a backroads neighborhood.
    
    I thought I saw something from Rich Butze about an Amherst beer store,
    but I could be mistaken...
    
    tim
    

>    I thought I saw something from Rich Butze about an Amherst beer store,
>    but I could be mistaken...

	I think that was Amherst, Massachusetts.  It's in the Western part of
the state.  Lots of places up this way are named after Lord Jeffery Amherst
(a colonial general). 

Mark

    There's a great place to buy beer and wine in Northampton as well. It's
    huge - roughly the size of a supermarket. Biggest selection of beer and
    wine I've seen anywhere, hands down.

    Welcome Tim!
    
    Yes... Its about time we had a Northern type lunch.
    
    I'll eat anything that doesn't eat me first, or wait til
    its done and then return the favor...
    
    UCX eh? I have a very funny feeling we're going to get to know each
    other real well in a very short time. Can you say VCI? Anyway, say
    hello to Alex for me.
    
    								/
    
    

                 <<< Note 45.70 by LASSIE::GRADY "tim grady" >>>
>    a.)  I eat anything that doesn't eat me first ;-)
 
I eat my roadkill :)

>    b.) Pavillion Rd. intersects South Baboosic Lake Rd about two miles
>    east of 101 (not 101A).  Take a left on Pavillion to get to the public
>    beach.  I'm renting a house on the corner of Pavillion and S. Baboosic.
>    It's a nice area - lots of rural properties with horses, etc.  I have a
>    feeling it's gonna get busy in the summer - it's already a fairly
>    active corner for such a backroads neighborhood.
 
A very good friend (the one who made me listen to the 2 jimi hendrix shows
in a row) lives right around the corner on Grater Road (grater is just
off of south baboosic .. a dirt road.).

>    I thought I saw something from Rich Butze about an Amherst beer store,
>    but I could be mistaken...
 
yeah he was talking about MASS.

So welcome neighbor - I live in Milford.  

bob

    The place in Northampton is called Big Y.  Amazing selection of just
    about everything.  Their prices are a little random (Spaten Optimator
    was real cheap, but I can get Lindeman's Lambic cheaper at the Iron
    Horse!), if you want to dream about being rich take a look at the back
    wall in the wine section.  Ever seen a $1000 bottle of wine?
    
    Around here, the best grocery store for beer is Purity on Spit Brook
    Road.  On 101A, Market Basket has a better selection than Shaws or
    Alexanders.  If you want a huge selection, there's the North End
    Superette in Manchester, mentioned before.
    
    The state stores have a few beers - some Corsendonk (Belgian trappist
    ale), Thomas Hardy's ale (really a barley wine), some Frank Jones
    special brew, and some German ale in a pottery bottle.
    
    Scott
    

As I was leaving work last night, amid the snow and freezing rain here at ZKO,
I turned left onto Spit Brook Rd. Ahead of me I see a white Mustang swerve in 
the left lane as traffic comes to a stop. As I was in the right lane, I caught 
up to this car and noticed it had Florida plates. My obvious question is, was
that you Tim? Glad it was only a minor slide :-)

jeff

    Is this the "welcome wagon" note ?
    
    Well, I've been in and out of here over the last couple of years but I 
    figured I'd re-introduce myself since I've been out of here for a 
    long time.
    
    My name is Jonathan Lyall Sherred.  I was born in Freeport, Illinois
    and did most of my growing up in Memphis, Tennessee and Denver,
    Colorado.  I presently design microchips here in Hudson, MA.  I live 
    in West Newton, MA near the Star Market which straddles the
    Massachusetts Turnpike.  I been playing electric bass for a couple
    years (having already played sax, oboe, studying music theory, singing,
    etc).  Its a real blast!  I've been playing regularly with Liquid Squid
    and have lately been sitting in with Cross the Water (with other DECies
    Dave West, Ed Savageau, and "special guest" Bruce Mandaro of Slipknot).
    
    Howdy Everybody!  Happy Friday !
    
    					jon

    WElcome John...and welcome North Tim G...yes I did mention store in
    Amherst but as others said it was Amherst Mass.....I am also a neighbor
    of sorts I live over Temple Mt in Jaffrey.
    I'm crossin my fingers about a Job in MRO ..should know by Monday..
    it would make for a much shorter commute.
    
    welcome all
    rich

    I wasn't the Mustang from Florida.  I'm driving a rental Camry until I 
    can buy a vehicle...pretty nondescript, but a nice (new) car.
    
    Besides, I stayed home on Friday - hurt my arm lifing furniture and
    boxes (and Sam Adams ;-)
    
    tim
    

    So....what about lunch?  Date? Time?  Place?  I'm new around here, so 
    what's the default luncheon venue?  
    
    Got stuff to do today, but how about later in the week?
    
    tim
    

    Hello gang. My name is Jason Pare, and I'm the new intern here at DEC
    I recognize a couple of names (what's shakin' ; Goeff, Bruce)
    I'm a Head from way back (1st show Dylan/Dead 87{?} ;-) )
    
    Congrats to treemon on his induction to the KNOT. The Blue Plate is
    a great place to make your debut. I'll be there.
    

    
    
    Thanks Jason, and welcome to you...
    
    Perhaps we had the same first show? (7/4/87 Dylan & Dead) at Foxboro.
    
    Be sure to introduce yourself, I will be the genetic mutant behind the
    drumset!
    
    Treemon

Hey Now Jay,

Welcome:-). It figures that the first thing you would be taught is how to play 
in notes. That's what everyone should learn first:-)

Good to see you in here.

Geoff

P.S. Spell my name right:-):-):-)

Welcome, Jay!  I'm an ancient Deadhead like you; saw my first show in March of
'87.  ;^)

At least you can say you saw a show before the big In_The_Dark deluge  (oh oh,
I think I feel flames coming on!)!

aiko

- Dave

    what a dave thing to say,...
    
    Wasn;t in the dark published/released in '86?.. making him
    	'part of" the "in the Dark deluge"???? 
    
    or am I saying /things and ITD was relased later? Probably my /memory
    is fried bu what the /hell,..its always fun to pick on a dave :-0
    
    
    							/
    

    I thought ITD was released just prior to the Summer '87 tour.
    Which would still qualify one as a "Touchead". :-)

 Yep, late June, early July 87. 






 Jim

    
    
    So am I a Touchead, or just Touched?
    
    Tree_looking_for_roots
    

not sure about you Tree but dc is definitely touched.....

now back to the business at hand, welcome Jason!

Lisa

re .88 LJOHUB::RILEY 
    
>    So am I a Touchead, or just Touched?

	Somebody better hold me back. Perhaps the treemon would make kindling
out of me if I weer to speak my mind here :-) :-) 

>   Tree_looking_for_roots

	Confucious say: tree looking for roots must be in deep doo doo :-)

						/
   

re      <<< Note 45.89 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "child of countless dreams" >>>


>not sure about you Tree but dc is definitely touched.....

And It Has Made Me A Better Man.

Ah say, touched by Jerry; ah've been HEALED off mah sanity!!

- dc ;^)

    Amen brother,. amen
    
    								/
    

    ITD was not release until (i think) July 7th, 1987 so that show, July
    4th, 1987, was not a Touchhead show O-Fish-Al-Lee....even though they
    started the show off with 4 songs from ITD (TOG,HIAB,WLAFA,TOS)
    
    Chris

    But they were playing the songs on the radio before the release
    and TOG was released before the album. :-)

    That was my first show too.  I had Skeletons from the Closet and one of my
    best friends was a real Dylan fan.  He knew of an extra ticket and
    about my solitary GD album.  My friend still isn't sure if he *really*
    likes the Dead but, living out in CA now, he's been *dragged* to more
    than a few shows. :-) :-) :-)
    
    					jon

I have an uncut ticket stub from that show somewhere in my Dead Archives (tm).
I remember heading into that show and the ticket takers just said, "F it..."

then, everyone flooded that place...

	Welcome Jason...your last name looks familiar...
	are you by any chance related to Mary?

	Debess

    Howdy Folks,
       I've been hanging out in rec.music.gdead for a number of years, so 
    some of these names look familiar ;-)  Just recently started work
    here in ZK3 in Spitbrook.  Forced into the market again by the 
    failure of my last company (Stardent) but things have worked out
    OK.   Had a feeling there was some internal Dead conference, but 
    it took me a few weeks to get to it!  So, is Gerry still looking for 
    his first show (sorry, I don't have it ;-)
    
                                         Later,
                                         PeterT
    

	Welcome!

Relax, kick back and enjoy. Oh yes, and you can take off your flame-retardant
clothes when you note around here. Heck, lots of us not with no clothes at all!

New blood is rare sight these days in any internal conference!

re: <<< Note 45.99 by SMURF::PETERT >>>
    
>So, is Gerry still looking for his first show (sorry, I don't have it ;-)
    
    Short of having access to a fully functional Wayback Machine (tm), I doubt
    I could ever find my first show. I am, however, still pursuing a tape
    of it. :-)
    
    - Gerry
    
    PS - does PeterT = Pete Talmadge?

>Heck, lots of us not with no clothes at all!

...As a matter of fact...;-)

>>Heck, lots of us not with no clothes at all!

>...As a matter of fact...;-)

	so, is that why your rarely serious in here Tim??  ;^)

Glad to see we are still hiring ... welcome PeterT!  Enjoy!!

Lisa

    >  PS - does PeterT = Pete Talmadge?
    
    Nope, Pete Thompson, formerly petert@stardent, formerly petert@primerd
    and before that I didn't have a net identity ;-)  Now petert@abyss or
    petert@zk3.dec.com at least until decvax recognizes my userid.  Now 
    if I can figure out notes well enough, I should be all set!
    
                                             Later,
                                             PeterT
    

	welcome PeterT...I read the net and I'm wondering if you're
	the same PeterT that wrote "The Real Phil" story a loooong
	time ago...I saved a copy of it and if it WAS you - you
	have a GRATE imagination!

	Debess

Well, I'm not exactly totally new here (first day of work was July 29, 1991),
but it's taking me a while to fully find my way around the notes files.  Just
saw this particular topic, so I thought I'd announce myself and say hi.

I graduated from Cornell this past spring (BSEE), spent the summer travelling
around the country (started out the vacation with a show at Buckeye Lake in
Ohio), and now I'm living in Newton, MA, and working in Hudson on Low Cost
Alpha.  I enjoy hiking, mountain biking, skiing, and playing piano, and some
things I haven't done lately but would like to spend more time with are
windsurfing, canoeing, ice hockey, and rock climbing.

My first show was also right around the release of In The Dark, but I'm not
positive if the show I went to (Dylan and the Dead at JFK stadium in Philly in
the summer of '87) was before or after the album.  I got interested in the Dead
before the album came out, though, in the Spring of '87.  Since then I've been
to 25 shows (I think - I haven't counted in a while).  Of the shows I've seen,
my favorite venue was Buckeye Lake; my least favorite venue was the Meadowlands
(WAY too much security presence).  I've also seen what may be the last event
ever at JFK (the stadium has been unused since the Dead show in July '89, and
Philly is thinking of tearing it down to build a new arena to convince the
Sixers and Flyers not to leave Philly for Camden, NJ).  Kind of a shame.  There
aren't too many 100,000 plus stadiums in this country (JFK is one of the sites
where Live Aid was), and I think they ought to fix it up and have it as one
of the World Cup soccer sites.  I too have an entire unripped ticket from my
first show.  My most interesting acquisition of a ticket was while moving at
about 25 mph on the New York Thruway on the way to a show at Silver Stadium
in Rochester in July '88.  The car I bought the ticket from was in the left
lane, and our car was to his left, half on the shoulder and half on the grass.
Well, enough said.

To summarize,

HI!

- Rich Fromm

re: <<< Note 45.106 by TECRUS::FROMM >>>
    
>My first show was also right around the release of In The Dark, but I'm not
>positive if the show I went to (Dylan and the Dead at JFK stadium in Philly in
>the summer of '87) was before or after the album.  
    
    It had to be just after the release because I remember playing a copy of 
    the album on the way down to JFK (aka So_Glad_You_Made_It, Part I :-).
    
    - Gerry

    re .106
    
    are you the guy who drives the brown-orange Datsun with the Cornell
    sticker and assorted Dead, Phish, etc. stickers?
    
    I always end up parking within a few cars of you (guess we get in
    at the same time, eh? good to see that somebody else believes 8:30
    is an artificially low number :-) ).
    
    - Dave (beat-on off-white '83 Cavalier with a few stickers)

re: 108

yup, that's me

not the nicest car in the world, but it's been extremely reliable in the couple
of years that i've owned it, and i've now probably spent more in gas than i
did on the car (40,000+ miles so far, only $1500 for the car)

i've noticed some white car (can't remember what kind) with a couple of stickers
(is one of them of dancing bears) that i often end up near; guess that could
be you

- rich

    Hello everybody.....
    My name is Mike, and I'm spending my second co-op session here at DEC.
    I don't know if anyone remembers me from last Spring, but I did write a
    few notes while I was here.  I thought this year I'd be a little more
    bold and do a little noting instead of just reading.  I'm working out
    of Franklin, and looking forward to my 6 month stay on the East coast.
    I came from Cincinnati, and hope to do a lot of hiking and mountain
    biking while I'm here.  Well, I guess that's all I wanted to say to
    formally introduce myself this time....:-):-)

    HOWDY!
          rfb

howdy as well

i'm also looking forward to doing some mountain biking and hiking this summer

where's franklin?

- rich

    hi Mike!!!
    
    yeah, i remember you!!  look for the DEChead camp trip note...  that
    would be a great chance to get to meet some of these folks...  last
    year when we tried to go camping the trip got aborted (can't remember
    why though?  do you?)
    
    					da ve

    about the camping trip, yes I do remember why we aborted.  It had
    something to do with the Arrowhead ranch lying about their rates.
    And in response to the note 2 previously, Franklin is about 20 miles
    South and a little East of Worcester. Rumor has it that this site won't
    be here for very long though.

    oh yeah!  the arrowhead ranch trip-that-would-have-been-from-hell-if
    it-happened...  weren't we going to see Ziggy and Blue Traveler or
    something like that?  
    
    anyway, dead memory brain cells aside, welcome back!  :^)
    
    					da ve

    	Yes, I was going to say, your in Franklin at the time, but just 
    wait'll you leave. Who knows where we'll be then. 
    	But hey, welcome back to the file and enjoy your stay in FXO. It's
    really not a bad place to work if you work in the PALab. That's got a
    lot more to do with the lab than the location.
    
    	Have fun, see ya' around
    	Geoff

    
    
    Hi Mike
    
     Too bad your going east intsead of coming west to some mountians
       
        . .
         ,
      \_____/ 
    
      
    
    
    Divide Dave

	Seems like as good a place to put this as anywhere...

	Jen "Sparky" Gilmore says "hi" and "hey now" to everyone in 
	the file.   She was in the file a couple of years ago but
	left her temping job at Digital to pursue other interests.
	She may be back soon for a while so staty tuned :-)

	Bob

	P.S. Thanks to Dean Smith for putting she and I back in touch
	(she temped in my organization for a while)

>>	P.S. Thanks to Dean Smith for putting she and I back in touch
>>	(she temped in my organization for a while)


	:-)

	
	

Hi,

I seem to think I know a lot about a lot of things.  
If you've seen what I've posted in GRATEFUL, it's
a lot of off the wall rambling confusion, with an 
occasional spark of creativity and/or insight, and
a dash of questionable quasi-facts -- all of which
make the NEXT UNSEEN key very useful.
    
One day, in 1986, I was hired by Digital.  I didn't 
know much about the company, but I believed:

1) If an engineer or scientist likes their PDP, they
   really need a VAX( and therefore they'll need
   bigger and better VAXes).

2) It's okay for me not to know how the company's 
   CEO's name is spelled.  Is it O-l-s-e-n, or O-l-s-o-n?
   I can always ask a VP, VPs can spell (silly me).

3) Digital has an internal network that links most of 
   the employees together. 90,000+  employees?  I knew
   some deadheads who were into nets. There must be
   a few deadheads in the 90,000+  Notes? Hmmm?

It was worth a look.  One out of three is better than none.  
    
    Six hours after I started
working for DEC, I was somewhat astounded to find 
KRYSTAL::GRATEFUL.  I went through about six weeks 
of read only anxiety.  Then I began to reply...
 
...Occasionally with good fortune, I'm able to listen.  
Better yet, my eyes may open, my tongue and lips might 
stop flapping -- or my fingers might refrain from typing 
-- and I get a sense of your feelings and thoughts.  

To me, that's precious.  I'm only beginning to realize 
how easy it isn't for me to get off my own trip and 
make an effort to understand where any of one of you may 
be coming from. That said, I'll tell you something I know:
    
This notes file is a very fine thing.  It's full of caring,
intelligent and fun thoughts and feelings from people full of
that stuff.  

I sincerely appreciate the myriad of ways that this 
notes-file has brought some sort of sanity to my 
perspective on the world we live in.  When leaders
spoke of the focus of evil in the modern world, the
discussion here turned to peace.... uh etc.

I've made some friends here. That, I'll cherish forever.  

The Grateful Dead is a band beyond description; the
band is good, but if you want to know what it's all
about, listen to the fans.
 
When I think of Digital, I'll think of you!

I'll be an ex-Dechead soon.


    
    Peace,
    
    KenB
    
    

    Good stuff, Ken
    Go with the Show,....
                     rfb

Ken,

The file will be a different space without your occasional sagacity...

An ex-DEChead, ken??  8-(  Does that mean the rumor of the Cupertino
plant closing is true??  I'm going to miss the occasional enlightenments
you throw at us!  Good luck in whatever you end up doing.

peace,
t!ng

    
    Good luck, Ken.  We'll miss your words in here..
    
    

Ken, wherever you go - you'll be there.  Enjoy!!

	I'll miss you here.....

		Lisa

    Hi, I am Matt Wagner. I have been read-only for some years through
    several versions GRATEFUL. I work in St. Louis, MO(where the Dead don't
    go no mo) as a field repair engineer or customer service engineer or 
    Digita Services or whatever they are calling us this week. I just had 
    my eight year anniv.
    
    I am married with three doggies and have a home in Belleville, IL. I am
    nicknamed, and will probably sign my replies as, `Oso'(Spanish for
    bear). My wife Ashley gave this to me when she saw me hang upside down
    from a tree; thought I looked like a bear. So when I listen to The
    Dead, I guess I become a Dancin' Oso. 
    
    I am basicly a home, car , wherever I can Dead listener. I have not had
    the fortune(or the funds) to tour since the Alpine Valley show on
    6/28/86. This is just tooooo long. I plan to get back into the tour
    for some regional shows if possible. I LOVE The Dead and have
    influenced my wife to get in the act. She would like to go to a show to
    see what its all about. I need to get familiar with the mail order
    system. I know my brother could help. He was my main influence for
    becoming a Deadhead.  I attempt to regularly tape the Grateful Dead
    Hour so I have some live stuff to listen to. I would probably
    eventually like to get tapes from other Heads.
    
    We love to camp and to ride about the countryside on my motorcycle.It
    is a 1985 BMW K100RS. I have it set up for touring and would love to go
    to Colorado or NE sometime to see a few shows. I think Telluride or Red
    Rocks would be a blast. 
    
    I could bore you longer but who needs it.
    
    Bye 4 now,
    		Oso

Welcome, OSO!  Lemme be the first to walk right up and shake your electronic
hand ....

{shake} *zap*  Yow!

- DC

    
    yes, welcome indeed, Oso!!!  Dancin Oso!  I love it!  :-)
    
    MJ

    Thank you, thank you!
    
    I sort of forgot to include something.
    
    My E-Mail address is MDVAX1:WAGNERM or A-1 Matt Wagner @STO.

    howdy howdy howdy, I'm a cowboy!! Kruz out ta COlo sometime, Oso.
                                                                     rfb

    
    Welcome!!
    
    

	Welcome welcome Oso ... glad to see another new face, of sorts.

	Lisa

	another friendly greeting comin' your way, Oso!
	if you've been reading so long you probably feel
	like you know some of us already, huh!  That kindof
	freaks me out cause I never think of people reading
	that we don't hear from, although I do that myself
	in other notesfiles.  Good to have some new energy
	in here!  Let us get to know you too!  I've been
	thinkin' a great way to start "coming out" would be
	to just start going back to some of the topics in
	the lower numbers and start telling us something about
	yourself.  That's easy.  I love to hear about other
	people's Dead Lives ;-) Besides I hate getting "no new
	messages" so much...

	Debess

    
    Dancin' Oso!!  HA!!!  :^)  :^)  :^)  gotta luv it!
    
    nice to see you out of the closet dude!!  warmest welcomes abound!
    
    				da ve

Welcome!  We need more voices around here!  8-)

peace,
t!ng

Howdy, Oso!  You have gotten yourself into one of the most friendly, most
ineresting notes files around. :-)  I am mostly ro as well, but this file
has become a daily stop for me.  If you make it to any left coast shows, give
a shout.  Welcome aboard...:-)

-jer

Hey there, my (new) friend!  Glad to have you aboard!

There's a bar in Manchester, NH called "The Dancing Bear"!

If you ever make it out this Nude Hampster way, I'll bring you up there...
($2 pitchers on Wednesday nights!) %-)

Dave

    Seems like someone might think I was undfriendly if I didn't also
    say:
    
    	W E L C O M E    O S O
    
    							/Soko
    

	Dancing bears...now's there's an idea. :-)  Welcome.

Mark

    
    as a matter of fact, i just heard the "waltzing with bears" tune
    on the radio on my way in this morning!!!!  :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    "wa-wa wa-wa...   waltzing with bears
    	raggy bears, shaggy bears, baggy bears too...
    		there's nothing on earth Uncle Walter won't do,
    			so he can go waltzing
    				wa-wa-wa-waltzing
    					so he can go waltzing
    						waltzing with bears!"
    
    					da ve
    

         <<< Note 45.141 by JUNCO::DWEST "if wishes were horses..." >>>

Da ve,  is your personal name from lyrics by Jon Butcher?  You like
him?  I do.

happy friday!
bob

Re: .141

	Yep, that's the one.

	"I begged and I pleaded, I asked him to stay,
	 And I managed to keep him inside for a day.
	 But the bears all barged in, and they took him away!
	 Now I can't understand it, he's dancing with pandas,
	 And the bears all demand at least one waltz a day!"

Mark

> RE .141 and .143

I don't think I'm familiar with that song...

Is it a dead tune?  If not, who's tune is it?  Is "Waltzing With Bears" the 
name of the song?

Ignorant minds want to know...


Dave

    
    Was this song also featured in the movie "The Hotel New Hampshire"?
    
    Hogan

	Yes, the name of the song is "Waltzing with Bears".  No, it wasn't
featured in "Hotel New Hampshire" (great movie, though).  No, it's not a Dead
tune.  It's been done by at least a couple of people, none of whom I can
remember at the moment.  WEVO used to play it quite a bit when they had a folk
show.

Mark

Re:          <<< Note 45.146 by 11SRUS::MARK "Waltzing with Bears" >>>

> It's been done by at least a couple of people, none of whom I can
> remember at the moment.

	I know that Gail Rundlett has a version I like alot.

	I think Cindy Kallet also has a recorded version.

	Bob

    Tommy Makem does it too...
    
    my new personal name is indeed a John Butcher lyric but that's not
    where i got it from (i agree Bobo, he is a talented dude)...  i got
    that line from my grandmother...  it fits with some of what's happening
    in my life these days and seemed appropriate...  the full quote was
    "if wishes were horses then beggars might ride"...  Gram was full
    of little gems like that one...  my other favorite was "did you ever
    hear about the jackass that starved to death between two bales of hay?"
    alas, it too, is all too appropriate for me these days...
    
    					da ve

>>    to Colorado or NE sometime to see a few shows. I think Telluride or Red
>>   Rocks would be a blast. 
    
	Me too, but they don' play there no mo' either... :^/

	Glenn

	BTW - Welcome!

>>    in my life these days and seemed appropriate...  the full quote was
>>    "if wishes were horses then beggars might ride"...  Gram was full

This is also in a "Brave and Crazy" by Mellissa Etheridge..

"If wishes were horses then this beggar would ride,
I'd have my cake and eat it
with a little on the side..

I'd never want for money,
never want for friends
I wouldn't have to make excuses
for the shape that I'm......
In
Shakin
and crazy...."


Love that tune!!!

Glenn

    			I'M BACK!!!!
    
    I started Monday at PCI Documentation in LJO1 after a year and a half
    of being responsible for IRS Compliance for a bank -- yuck.  I haven't
    had much of a chance to catch up on my reading, as that's not why I'm
    here.   I probably won't get much of a chance to write, but I'm sure
    I'll be popping in every now and then.
    
    I've missed Grateful  sooooo much.  It's always here when I need some
    cheering up.  I can't believe that some of the people I met over the
    file 5 years ago may not even be working for DEC anymore, but then, my
    mom worked for them for 18 years.  She took the package in May 1990.
    
    I'm currently living in Acton at Nagog Woods, but am planning on moving
    to Grand Junction, Colorado after Christmas.  No kids, no husband, no
    boyfriend, no pets, not a thing but me, my friends and my family . . .
    thank goodness!! (I almost got married 2 years ago -- I'm still
    breathing a sigh of relief that I called it off.)
    
    No shows since '88.  Worcester really, really bummed me out.  I still
    love the Dead though, probably always will.
    
    Jen (aka: Sparky)_who_is_trying_not_to_think_about_the_Lorna_
                    Doons_down_the_hall.
    
    
    
    Hey! Where is Geoff (Mr. Fejj) and Ger G????????????????????

    hey now Sparky!!  welcome back!  i knew i knew "Gilmore" from
    someplace...  it wasn't til i saw "aka Sparky" at the bottom that 
    i remembered!  :^)
    
    					da ve

    It's so nice to be remembered!!!
    
    Each time I come back I get the same "old home" feeling as the
    time before.
    
    Y'all know how to make someone feel welcome!
    
    :-]  Sparky

    Yo Sparky!
    
    C'mon over to da bull tonight for some cookin' blues
    with Ronnie Earl...  probly be a few of us over there...
    JC, you gonna be there?
    
    /bruce

    Was it a good time??
    
    Next time you go, you'll have to let me know!!  I've heard Ronnie
    Earl is a grate show!!  Never been to the bull, and I've lived
    in the area all my life!!
    
    What are y'all doing Friday??
    
    HAPPY THURSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Sparky_who_dropped_one_of_my_best_friends_off_this_morning_at_495_to
          _hitch_to_Buzzards_Bay_for_a_job_with_the_So_Shore_YMCA_and_
    	  _feeling_a_bit_guilty_I_couldn't_drive_him_the_whole_way_there.
    
          . . . If anyone sees someone with a *huge* pack, baseball cap
          red shorts, white shirt, and sandals hitching on 495 south,
    	  that's Scott . . . he's harmless!!
    
    :-/

hey sparky....

i remember you....

anyways, ronnie is playing again next weds (jul 15) and he'll be there on 
jul-29 also... not sure if i can make any of these dates at this point....

> anyways, ronnie is playing again next weds (jul 15)

Hmmm.  This could be a perfect opportunity for me to finally catch Ronnie.  I'm
gonna be in Lowell 'til ~9pm, so I'm already 1/2 way (sorta) to maynard from 
Nashua....

Dave

    I sense a gathering . . . 
    
    Lowell is close enough to Maynard to warrant going.  I used to
    live in Nashua (only for about 9 months), but I was always in
    Acton after work . . . you get used to Route 3, somehow.
    
    I like your personal Dave ("Maine: Where pizza is rocket science")
    I was in Harrison/Norway/So Paris (about 2 hours NW from Kittery) last
    week.  I had to literally drag myself back here.  I'm seriously
    considering going back again soon.
    
    At least they have signs to where all the "Subway" deli's are!!
    
    
    :-) Sparky

> I like your personal Dave ("Maine: Where pizza is rocket science")

Thanks, Sparky!  (Whenever I see that name, it reminds of me of M*A*S*H).
See 265.35 for clarification, if you haven't seen it yet!

Hope to meet ya' (and others) next Wednesday!

Dave

if ya'll go on the 15th, i won't be there... but, that doesn't mean ronnie 
won't be hot!!!!!

anyways.... i sure would like to see more decheads there, but, i guess i
understand because it is a weds. night and all............ and, it ain't
dead music, but, he sure can play the guitar like nobody i've seen recently!!!

I'll be there on the 15th.  I was there last Wed and he smoked.  I brought my 
brother, who is a guitar player as well and likes blues.  I had to drag him 
there since he doesn't have all that much faith in my music tastes 8^).  Well, 
right from Ronnie's first song he was very impressed and psyched I talked him 
into going.

I'll be going on the 15th from softball so I'll have on a grey shirt with blue 
letting that says "Jousters" across the front and a Colby baseball cap.

Scott

    Yup,  great show last night at da bull...   something else
    to know:  Paul Rishell plays a set of country blues at 8:30
    on Wednesdays, sort of opening up for Ronnie...  and then
    he often sits in for awhile during the second set.  They
    were smokin' last night.
    
    If anybody can't wait till next Wednesday to dig ronnie,
    he's playing at Chan's in woonsocket RI tomorrow night.
    I can't make it cause I'm having dinner with a pal, but
    I'm gonna try to get to da bull next Wed!!!
    
    /bruce

    but I have no clue what I'll be wearing.  Just look for a crazy
    strawberry blonde who looks like she's looking for everyone else!
    10 to 1 says I'll be in jeans and a t-shirt . . . sorry kids, I
    dress up enough for work!
    
    Seriously though, I'll look for you now that I know you'll have
    "markings"!!!
    
    Cool, cool, cool .. .  something *new* to do!!
    
    :-)

> 10 to 1 says I'll be in jeans and a t-shirt . . . sorry kids, I
>    dress up enough for work!
 
Me too!  Unless of course I'm wearing shorts!  Most likely a pair of black
Chuck Taylor sneakers...In otherwords, I *WILL* be wearing work clothes...
:-)

Dave   

Chuck Taylor sneakers!  They're back!  I used to have a pair, and everyone
made fun of them.  Of course, they were a shiny, sickly green color, but
still ....

    Hi, I'm Jeff and I'm new to DEC from Babson college. Spent a month off
    travelling after school the highlight of which was an awesome
    masterpiece in buffalo with the Bobby we used to know and love.  I've
    only been to 5 shows but hope for a mail order bonanza in the Garden.
    Glad to see a dead culture at Digital, I was afraid it might be too
    conservative.  Congrats to any "Casey Jonesers" in RFK, lets pray for a
    ST. Stephen in the Garden this September.  A special hello to Tree, a
    Babson Alumni, We met at a Chuck and Helen show while I was being
    interviewed, guess what, I made it.
    
    Light the Song with sence and colour, hold away despair,
    Jeff

Lemme be da foist to say:	Welcommme!!!

So little fresh blood @DEC these days, so glad ya made it!

    
    Congrats Jeff!  And welcome...
    
    I've gotta first say that you are VERY fortunate to be coming into DEC
    during times like these, even more fortunate than I was (and Scott
    Wentzell too who came in at the same time during the summer of 1989).
    
    Also, on your behalf, keep the positive mental attitude and spread it
    amongst your co-workers...  These are challenging times indeed, and
    many people are coping with high levels of stress as a result.  New
    blood and new vigor is what we need to get through it all.
    
    Enough of that though, I'm glad you're here.  I'm glad you found
    GRATEFUL so fast, and I welcome you to a very special place to come to
    share info, meet new folks, join in on social events (see the camping
    trip(s) planned for this week and the future), offer varied viewpoints,
    and basically DIGRESS)...  but I digress...
    
    Tree

Welcome!!!!!!  

Scott

Hi Jeff!

  Welcome to GRATEFUL!  Always great to 'see' a new 'face' in here (electronically
speaking, that is)! :-)  Also great to see another young person here...

To many of those "over 30" people here, anyway!

Ah, well, I trust 'em anyway! :-)

Dave

    
    Another welcome here Jeff!  
    
    MJ

    Am I allowed to be welcomed, even though I'm only a temp working here
    for the summer? :)
    
    Rob

    absotively and posolutely!!!  welcome Rob!!!!!  :^)
    
    			da ve_who_already_welcomed_Jeff_when_he_added_
    			him_to_the_members_list

Welcome Jeff!!  Another new noter and no one has even noticed that you are 
not a Dave.

Despite the stress and apathy so prevelant around this company of late it is
a good place to work.  Remember that, and enjoy it.  If nothing else this 
file will at least help.

Lisa

    
    of course you are!!!!  Alls ya gotta do is speak up!  
    
    Welcome Rob!!!

    Congrats!  
    
    I've been floating in and out of this notesfile for five
    years now (I'm one of the lucky people who has temped on
    and off).  Each time I come back, it's as if I never left.
    The friends you make here are certainly friends for life.
    
    These noters share your laughter, your tears, your heartache,
    and your sorrow -- and they will never let you forget the
    meaning of being grateful.  
    
    Hope you're as happy here as I have been.
    
    Sparky 
    
    

	of course you are!!  Welcome Rob!

 Welcome everybody :-)






 Jum one of those over 30 types

> Welcome Jeff!!  Another new noter and no one has even noticed that you are 
> not a Dave.

Actually, Lisa, I noticed right away...but he's welcome, anyway...Also, I figured
that *most* people would figure it out for themselves, dammit! :-) :-) :-)

Dave (not Jeff).

p.s. Us Daves better be careful...there seems to be a covert movement of Jeff's 
in here (they're just trying to hide behind different spellings (like Geoff) and
nicknames (like Treemon), but they're not fooling me...) :-) :-) :-)

p.p.s.  Grate to meet you, in person, Geoff Sampson...Always nice to have a face
with the name...

    Hey Now all summer temps and new real DECies ! 
    
    from another 30s type guy
    
    Chris

    Well!  Look what happens when I speak up! :)  Thanks, all, for the
    welcome.  I'm only here until August 21st, but so far, I've been having
    fun both here at DEC and in the notes files. :)  I've been lurking in
    here for about a week.  
    
    I'm one of those UNDER 30 types.  I'm 17, just out of high school. 
    I'll be going to Ithaca College in the fall to study computer science. 
    I got this job in a scholarship.  And I like it! :)
    
    I've never ever been to a Dead show in my entire life.  I missed the
    ones in Boston last year (was it that long ago?  I can't recall, since
    I didn't get to go)...and it looks like I'll be missing them THIS year,
    too.  I leave for college before them.  And I can't see the ones at
    Madison Square Garden probably, because I think it's too far from
    Ithaca.  Oh well...  I hope to see a Dead show SOME day...
    
    Hey...do you think I could be a surrogate Dave, to swell your ranks,
    and to help to keep the Jeff's from over-running this place? :)
    
    Rob
    The Young Dead

    come on...a college kid that can't find time for the Dead???/never hoid
    of it!
    
          welcome rob and jeff 
    
    rfb (whose bro/sis-in-law don't talk to him much anymore since turning
    on his niece to the Dead whilst she was in college....meant the 
    end of her schooling, oh.... and is also UNDER 30)

>    Hey...do you think I could be a surrogate Dave, to swell your ranks,
>    and to help to keep the Jeff's from over-running this place? :)

NO!  NO!!  NO!!!  Daves do not need their ranks (or their heads for that
matter ;-) swollen!!  ;-) ;-) ;-) 8-)  Welcome one and all!  I hope you
have pun insurance!!  NYUK!  NYUK!!  ;-)

peace,
t!ng

    	Hey welcome Rob and Jeff. There really aren't that many Geoffs in
    here and only a few Jeffs (Wow, that was hard to type). What we've
    really got to keep a check on is the Bobs, even though some hide behing 
    the 'guise of Bobbbbb (Love that new personal name Bobbb). 
    
    	And then I gotta say, Speaking of was it that long ago. Wow, I was
    17 when I started, Vt 100s and 11/780s were the new things. 
    
    Geoff still_under_30_but_a_lot_closer_than_when_I_started  

Welcome Jeff, Rob, and all lurkers out there!  I was a lurker once!  I got into
the dead as a result of this file!  But you two are already beyond that point
apparently!

Have fun in this "liberal" company!

adam

    Thanks Tree, (JEFF,HA Another one) for the more than warm welcome and a
    surprise next day response.  How are things going with slipknot, give
    me show dates and places, I'll drop by.
    
    Jeff
    

    Hello All,
    	Since Lisa was the most polite response not crushing my fragile ego
    with critisisms of a decision my parent made 22 years ago, I thank her.
    	Thanks everyone else also for greeting me so quickly and warmly. I
    think the biggest drawback to this file is the fact that I'll be
    checking it many times everyday.  Hope to see everyone at Great Woods
    for BOB.
    
    Jeff (and Damn proud of it).
    
    P.S. Soon Rob, you will have no choice but to follow the dead
    everywhere, you've got four free years, get used to driving 8-10 hours
    a day.  We all envy you. Enjoy the college measure of freedom for the
    next four years, and make the band an important part of it.

	Welcome folks!

	I remember I got my first DEC job at 17 as well.  I lied to
	the folks at the temp agency and told them I was 18, and off
	I went to my first DEC job, what a nice feeling it was.  I made
	more money than any of my friends did.  I worked my way up!

	I will soon be leaving DEC to finish up my last year of College
	FULL TIME!!!! I can't wait!!!!  

	Enjoy your time working hear and learn! learn! learn!  There	
	is so much to learn here it is mind boggling, if not about
	computers, you can gain alot of knowlege in office politics
	and bullshit.  :-)

	Deane_who_is_also_22_but_feels_ancient_and_can't_wait_to_get
	back_my_youth_in_the_college_scene!!!!!

    YES! Welcome Jeff, Rob and Sparky. I have just recently become a
    `skeleton out from the closet' and welcomed warmly. Enjoy your time
    with DEC and inside this notes file.
    
    Oso
    

RE:             <<< Note 45.187 by CURIE::JHINE "Estimated Prophet" >>>
>                      -< Thank you for a real good time >-

>    	Since Lisa was the most polite response not crushing my fragile ego
>    with critisisms of a decision my parent made 22 years ago, I thank her.
 
	Your welcome Dave, I mean Jeff!!  :-)

    Welcome Rob and Jeff!  Hmmm, Rob, you should really consider MSG shows.
    Ithaca isn't all that far from NYC, and you should be able to find 
    rides easily enough.  I saw my 2nd Dead show when I decided to hitch 
    from Albany to Buffalo during a long weekend.  Of course, back then 
    you could show up and buy a ticket at the door for 10 or 15 bucks.
    Sigh....  (actually ended up in Ithaca the day after the show,
    but that's another story ;-)
    
                                                    Later,
    						    PeterT_who_still_feels_
                                                    relatively_new_if_not_
      						    all_that_young ;-)
    

    Welcome to the nuthouse Rob and Jeff!
    
    /heidi

welcome Jeff & Rob from an (the?) over 30 Jeff.

And what's with this thread of clandestine Jeff/Geoff bashing? ;-)

jeff

    I don't think it was clandestine at all - pretty blatant
    if you ask me!;-)  I'm getting tired of the dave bashing
    anyways - let's stick to geoff/jeff bashing for a while:-)
    
    /heidi

    
    
    Let's see:
    
    Geoff Sampson (weirdo sailer)
    Geoff Keller (eater of bad steaks)
    Jeff Strobel (finance dude w/ short hair, like me)
    Treemon Jeff (need I say more?)
    and NOW, 
    
    NewJeff!
    
    any others???

Here here, no more Dave bashing!

;^)

Welcome folks!  Let me electronically shake your hand!  

{zap}

"youch!"

- dc

    I think we should start JC bashing!!!  We have JC Foiguson and
    I think I've seen a JJC lurking about! :-)
    
    Chaotic individual

    
    Yeah, We should....
    
    after all he is on vacation, and therefore not around to defend
    himself...
    
    Tree

    
    	Hi, I guess I should finally sign in........
    
    	Glenn Roy
    	Sr. HW engineer
    	M&G EIC (once upon a time was CSS/ISG)
    	First intro to the dead - Garcia/Garcia album, between H.S. and
    	college......
    	First show:	 3/28/86         CCCC Portland, Me.   
    	(late bloomer)
    	Been at Dec for a bit over 19 years.....
    	99% read only........but, I usually get a laugh from this file.....
    
    	enjoy, Glenn M. Roy.....
    

    howdy, roy!
    
    rfb

    Well,.. sonice I have a new name now,.. I thought I'd sigin in as
    
    						Dr. Spock
    
    						/Spock
    

	Welcome roy.  Where are you located??  You think the file is
	worth a laugh ... you should *meet* this crowd!  :-)

Lisa

    welcome Roy!  (and watch it Lisa!!! :^)
    
    				da ve

:-)  not that I *wasn't* including you da ve, but I was definitely 
including myself as well.  ;^)

    
    	Hi Lisa.  I'm in MK01.  And yes, by the tone of this crowd,
    	I can see that you all are a fun loving bunch.....I love
    	some of the stories from the camping trips.  I especially
    	liked the turkey thumping episode....  Damn near spilled
    	my coffee when I read that and visualized it... Actually
    	I wouldn't mind getting the "recipe" for use when we camp
    	on our land......
    
    	oh well, got mucho work before I do vacation next week....
    
    	keep up the entertainment.....
    
    	Glenn..... (yeah, Roy is my last name, but that's ok, cuz it
    			happens all the time, it just threw me when it
    			happened in print also.  But, this is what 
    			happens when you have four 1st names.
    			e.g.  Glenn Michael Thomas Roy.....  Maybe
    			we can start a club of folks with all first
    			names in their full name!!!!!!)
    

Four first names and none of them Dave, or Jeff/Geoff!!  Well well well,...

welcome Glenn
  welcome Michael
    welcome Thomas
      welcome Mr. Roy

	   :-)

    Welcome Glenn.  I've only got one first name (not counting those
    middle stuff) but on occassion I've been called Tom.  Go figure ;-)
    
                                           PeterT(hompson)
    

    we already have a Glenn, Roy....so you'll just havta stay Roy %^)
                                                                     rfb

>>    we already have a Glenn, Roy....so you'll just havta stay Roy %^)

Hey Now, the more the merrier - Welcome!  I know there's another Glenn from MKO
(I think) in here, but I don't think we'll ever have a chance of catching the
Dave's and GJEOFF'S though - Not that we'd ever want to put in with that bunch!
;^) 

I always thought it would be neat to only have one "n" combined with "Joy" as a
last name.. then you could sign off as...

GlENJOY--'  (wish I could draw an electronic ZigZag man to go with it ;^)

       			Greenwich Mean Time
    

    
    	.209  Hi Glenn.....  I think that I am the Glenn in MKO that you
    	are thinking about......
    
    	As to spelling.....when I am asked if it is one or two n's, I tell
    	them two, but the 2nd one is silent.  Or if I am feeling
    	wise-guyish I will say two, 'cuz I am not a valley, or a grassy
    	field in the woods......
    
    	so, call me what you want, but don't call me late for dinner!!!!!!!
    
    
    	later/Glenn

    Guess I might as well introduce myself, here goes..
    
    	Name is Rochelle
    	Location is RVO in *beautiful* Reno, Nevada (a whole 8 person
             office, so it gets kinda lonely)
    	Work in Logistics 
    And LOVE the Dead like nothing else in this world.
    
    -roche
    	

    
    Welcome, everybody!!
    
    :-)
    
    

Hey a Neveda-head! Probably our very first, doncha think? How many notesfiles 
can boast of members from countries like Neveda. Or, er, izzit one of them 
canadian provinces???

:-)

    Welcome to all the new noters (and not so new ones who've come out
    of the closet).   These are the best people!
    
    Rose
    

    wow,.. the family is really growing
    
    welcome one and all
    
    								Billy
    

    Canada?? Nah, Nevada US of A.  Wow! The only noter in Nevada??  That
    makes me almost feel better than attending the Vegas shows where we had
    the largest concert going crowd EVER in the history of Nevada!  Any
    other Dead Heads around these parts??
    
    -roche

Welcome indeed....Ah, Reno...one of my favorite towns..











Jum

>    Any other Dead Heads around these parts??
    
Well, there's a few of us in California, the neighboring country ;-).
Welcome!

peace,
t!ng

    If any of you get out this way to Reno, not only had you better look me
    up, but check out a bar called Metamorphisis. It's a Dead Head bar all
    the way.  I've yet to go cuz I won't go in by myself, and I've yet to
    drag my boyfriend there, but if any DHs come this way, it's a must. 
    It's across the street (sort of) from the Peppermill on Virginia Street.
    
    rochelle

    Hey Rochelle,
    
    Welcome from the California stealth noter!  I'll have to check the
    Metamorphisis out one of these days.  It's not too unusual for me to
    take off for Reno on an impulse (though I have to admit it's become a
    much rarer occurance than it use to be), so  maybe I'll get there one
    of these days.
    
    john

    Well Rochelle sorta got going here so I might as well introduce myself.
    
      Gene Haag
      Network Consultant
      Minneapolis, Minnesota
    
    Spent the '60's and '70's growing up on The Dead, The Stones, and The
    Beatles. I still listen to them today. Plus tho in a couple of native
    Minnesotans (Bob Dylan and Peter Himmelman) and that about covers it.
    
    gene (sometimes known as -hag)

    Welcome!!! Rob and Jeff and Rochelle and Hag and Glenn/Roy :^)
    
    The more the merrier!!! :^)
    
    peace,Andy

    Hey!  Sorry I haven't been around to thank all of you for your
    welcomes.  But, on Wednesday, I had to go to college orientation.  And
    that went on until Friday.  BUT...I picked some fun courses, and it
    looks like I'll have a good time next year.  But, for now, I'll just
    enjoy my time at DEC and learn all I can.  PLUS...of course I'll enjoy
    the Dead!  I really want to get to a show...  Does anyone know how long
    it'd take to get from Ithaca to New York City?  Even an approximation? 
    I could probably catch some kind of bus or a ride or SOMETHING.  I just
    don't want to blow my money on a ticket if I can't make it...
    
    Thanks again, all!
    
    Rob
    

    
    
	Rob,    As an approximation, I'd say about 5 hours by car.
    
    Tree_who's brother went to Cornell grad school, and who's father went
    there as an undergrad, and who grew up not far from NYCity

    5 hours by car, huh?  That doesn't sound too good.  That'd either mean
    I'd need to stay at a hotel (more money?!?!) out there, OR I'd have to
    be asleep on the ride home.  And I'd probably only be able to get a bus
    to take me home at that hour!  Oh well...looks like I might have to
    miss the Dead... (sigh)
    
    Rob
    

    Consider your options . . . 
    
    	Camp out!
    	Have someone set you up with a place to crash
    	Crash in your car for a few hours and then drive back
    
    5 hours is really no big deal.  After the first 2 1/2 , it doesn't
    get any worse.  I drove to Philadelphia from Acton, MA _by_myself
    (to visit a friend).  5 hours down, 6 hours back.  It's a lot
    of fun -- and ya know, if you listen real close, your car does
    talk to you!  :)
    
    A show is worth it.

    
    yeah.. my car was talking to me alot this weekend  :-(
    
    Saying "I ain't goin no further"!  
    
    MJ

    Well, the thing is...I don't HAVE a car.  So I can't really crash in my
    car.  I don't know if camping out would be all that enjoyable, since I
    really don't have anything for THAT, either.  I don't know.  I'll have
    to find out if I can get a ride first.  Of course, I'll have to get the
    tickets BEFORE then, but...  I don't know.  It might be worth driving
    out, staying over-night somewhere, and then coming back.  For the Dead,
    it sure would be...
    
    Rob
    

    Hey now Gene,
    
    I didn't know you read this file.  Good to see another Minnesotan in
    here.  Come on down and say Hi.  I will set you up with some
    bootlegs.  :-)
    
    Welcome everyone else :-) 
    
    :-)
    Scott g

    Bootlegs, bootlegs, bootlegs... <going into a trance> :)
    
    I was about to ask the origin of the word, but...I figured it out all
    by myself.  Mighty slick. :)
    
    Rob
    

RE:           <<< Note 45.229 by SWORD1::CRAVEN "Spanish Castle Magic" >>>
                          -< Hope not to miss 'em... >-

>    Well, the thing is...I don't HAVE a car.  So I can't really crash in my
>    car.  I don't know if camping out would be all that enjoyable, since I
>    really don't have anything for THAT, either.  I don't know.  I'll have
>    to find out if I can get a ride first.  Of course, I'll have to get the
>    tickets BEFORE then, but...  I don't know.  It might be worth driving
>    out, staying over-night somewhere, and then coming back.  For the Dead,
>    it sure would be...


Hey Rob, 

Where there's a will, there's a way!  

Here's how I arranged one of the deadshows I went to in college - tickets went
on sale, this one friend and I each got an extra tickets, it was real easy to
find people who wanted to go, all four of us pitched in on gas and a tickets
for the guy with the car.  Off we went to the show (Albany to Rochester - I
think that was a four to five hour drive too)...   Get an extra ticket, then if
you ask around, you won't find any trouble getting someone to go or finding a
ride to the shows...  Remember - We Are Everywhere!

Get the tix and trust that things will work - they will...


Glenn

    I don't know, I don't know...  I suppose I could always try.  The thing
    is, I don't get to college until August 22nd.  I SUPPOSE I could blow
    money on an extra ticket, to ensure that someone will go.  OR...I could
    always advertise in the college newspaper that I need a ride.  I guess
    it's worth a shot.  Probably should talk to my parents about it first,
    since they'll probably want to know about this. :)  Thanks for the
    advice!
    
    Rob
    

    re: we are everywhere....
    
    can say that again, Patty and I were at a local Farmers MArket this
    Sat, one of the lady farmers from Swink Colo (close to Rocky Ford, home of
    the famous RockyFord Cantalopes and melons) says "i like yer shirt"
    (deadoriented) and smiles knowingly......
    
                                             rfb

    Rob, you sound SO INDECISIVE!!!!
               "shall we go, you and I, while we can..."
                                %^)  life is short, trip hard
                                                        rfb

    I MUST find a place to get a good Dead t-shirt.  I bought one while I
    was at orientation at Ithaca.  It's nice, but it was only a large, and
    it just BARELY fits me.  I'm afraid to wash it!  It was only $5,
    though, so...I just couldn't resist.  It's a nice shirt, anyhow, and I
    guess I could give it to someone it DOES fit if it stops fitting me.
    
    Rob
    

    You're right...I'm indecisive.  It's my downfall in life! :)
    
    Rob
    

     
    
    			A Dead Show

    Rob,
    If you live in the Nashua area there are several places where you can
    get Dead shirt:  There's a T shirt shop at the Nashua Mall, as you come
    into the mall entrance nearest Bradlees that has some Dead shirts.  The
    Latin Connection, a cart at the Pheasant Lane Mall has some Dead
    shirts.  Also, Headlines on Main St in Nashua has lots of Dead stuff as
    well as T shirts.
    
    Peace,
    Rose
    

    Yeah, I figured the best place to get a shirt was at a show.  That's
    one of the MANY reasons I want to GO to one! :)
    
    Yeah, I do live kinda close to Nashua.  Close enough to go there,
    definitely.  I live in Tewksbury, and I was just up at Pheasant Lane
    last weekend.  I'll try to look for those other places you mentioned. 
    Thanks!
    
    Rob
    

Rob,

The other option you can check out (we are ta;lking about MSG right?)
is the train.  Very easy to get from Grand Central (even easier from
Penn! :-) don't know which you'd come in on) to Madison Square Garden, 
and you'll have a blast on the train!!  You may even find your shirt there....

Lisa

    Yup, we're talkin' about MSG, Lisa.  I suppose I could take the train. 
    But if I took one in, could I take one OUT? :)  Hmmm...yeah, I'm sure I
    could.  But maybe bus would be easier.  I'm sure they run one to MSG. 
    And there's a greyhound station a little ways away from Ithaca College. 
    So I might think of that option.  I don't know where all the train
    stations are, though!  I'd have to go looking for one...  Hmmm...
    
    Thanks everyone for ALL the help!
    
    Rob
    

Why don't you post something on the Ride Board??  Do you have a Ride
Board??  We used to have one at RPI where I went to school and you
can always count on people looking for riders to shows and vice versa
around show time.  How about a Ride Board at Cornell?  How about putting
a message on rec.music.gdead??  I'm sure there's going to be *somebody*
from Ithaca going to MSG who'll give you a ride if you share gas money.
Good luck!

peace,
t!ng

    There's some Dead/Reggae stores in Boston that may have a wider
    selection of shirts.  Buried Treasures is one, I think there's another
    but don't remember the name.
    
    Headlines is probably the best of the 3 places in Nashua.
    
    Occasionally at the flea market on 122 in Hollis there's been some
    shirt dealers.  Some sell homemade stuff, others have the commercial
    stuff you could find at shows.
    
    Or - just wait till the BG shows! Maybe the one you have now won't
    shrink until then.
    
    Scott
    

    Shaky Jake's in Worcester has a grate selection of Dead-type shirts. 
    There's one I saw there last time I was in the store that I thought was
    pretty good ... got a picture of Bill the Cat (in his typical Accckk
    pose) with a caption that reads "POUND IT AGAIN PHIL".
    
    ... Bobbb
    

    Well, I'll be in college for the BG shows, and that's an even longer
    drive than the MSG ones.  BUT...I just realized something.  I was out
    of town when Mail Order started for the MSG shows...PLUS I'll be on my
    way to college when Ticket Master sells.  So...unless someone at Ithaca
    got an extra ticket...I'm outta luck 'til next time. :(
    
    Rob
    The Hopeless
    

You can always find a good excuse not to go to show, and once it
happened, you will be always think of a good explanation why you
weren't there and a good reason why you can't kick yourself ;-).

peace,
t!ng

Such poor manners I have!!!

Ya' know, I just realized I never introduced myself in here...

Isn't that just like me...just barge right in, uninvited (well, ok, so I was
welcome the whole time), acting like a complete Dave, stating my opinions,
making puns, meeting people from the file.  Sheesh, am I rude...

Well, if y'all will forgive me, I'll continue with the social amenities...
 
Who:  Dave Weiss
What: Hmmm.  Suppose that depends on your prespective :-)
      But DEC pays me to be a software engineer.
Why:  Because that's what I was edumacated for...
Where: Nashua, NH.  I both live and work in Nashua (ZKO).
How:  Well, just under 25 years ago, this stork dropped a hairy package on
      my parents doorstep in Fair Lawn, NJ.  Then after several years of that,
      that fuzzy dude ended up at CMU in Pittsburgh PA.  4 years later, 
      in a fit of insanity, some DECcie with a tie made me an offer, and I
      took it.

Hobbies:  Life.  I love it.  There's just sooooooooo much fun to be had out
      	there!  My cats, skiing, biking, karate, rollerblading, eating,
	drinking, cooking, trying to tread as lightly as possible upon the
	Earth, meeting new people, sharing times with old friends,
	and just about anything new that seems like fun to me.  And of course,
	MUSIC!  I'm not a musician, but music plays such an important role in
	my life!  I've got music on whenever there's a device available to
	play it.  I dunno, there's just something magical that happens inside
	of me when I hear certain songs...

	I've gotta admit, I don't consider The Grateful Dead my favorite band
	(don't really have one), but I do consider them The World's Greatest
	Dance Band! 
	

I'm really glad that I'm involved in this notes file!  I've met some great
people (both face to face and electronically) and I can't wait to meet even more
(that's a hint you RON's... :-) and create more memories with the ones I already
know!

Great to meet you again, my friends!!!!

Dave

welcome Harry.

:-)

    Following Dave's example I'll introduce myself tool  I've been writing
    for about a year, but I started reading this note when I worked in CSS
    at NUO in the early 80's.
    
    I started at DEC in 1980.  I've been in Salem since Feb. '87.  I'm an
    Environmental Health and Safety Specialist.
    
    I feel as if I know you all.  I'm also realising that although I've
    written replies you can't know me very well since I hadn't told you
    much about me.  I have two grown sons (26 and 24 years old).  My
    younger son turned me on to the dead when he was about 14.  IF I get to
    Boston this will be my first show.  I have several Dead CD's which I've
    had for a while.  But thanks to the generosity of this group I also
    have a growing collection of tapes.  Listening to the Dead is among my
    favorite things,  which also include my cat TED, walking, hiking,
    reading (possibly my favorite) writing, watching movies and reading
    this note.
    Now I feel that I'm really part of this group.
    
    Peace,
    Rose

    welcome Rose,....I love that name!
                                      rfb

    Thanks rfb!  It took me a long time to get used  to my name. In grammar
    school I was the only Rose in the school, and I wanted a name that was
    not so unique.
    
    Rose
    

    Ok, here goes....  
    
    I've met some of you before at Slipknot shows.  I'm the one that's as
    short as MJ and am usually with her or my boyfriend/fiance'.  
    
    This file can certainly be addicting!  Ever since I got a terminal at
    home, I log in to see what's happenin'.  Just spent the last two hours
    getting caught up.  
    
    Anyway, for the past year or so I've been mostly read-only.... Just
    coming out of my shell.  (So, I'm a little slow)  You guys really know
    how to make someone laugh -- and cry.  
    
    well, here I am..... I work at MSO2 in the Law Department.  Been to about 
    four dead shows, one Jerry show.  Goin' to see Bob n Rob.  I love Albany!
     
    Hope to go to lots of shows at BG!!!!  :)
    
    Nice to meetcha!
    
    Donna                                     
    
    

    
    Well..... all I can say is it's about time DEDGAR!  ;-)
    
    Nice to see ya!

 Geeze, just what we need...more short people :-)





 Welcome Donna!





 Jum

Hiya Donna!

  Glad to meet ya'!  You ever thing of changing you username from
DEDGAR to DEADGAR??? :-)

Dave

Howdy Donna!  Hey, another MSO2er!  We might actually have enough
people to take over one of those little round tables in the cafe!

- DC

Welcome, Donna!  And congrats on the wedding!  People claim I know ya from
Slipknot shows, but I'll wait for an official introduction before I can say for
sure!

adam

    Howdy Donna...Oh no the LAW DEPT has infiltrated us!!!!!!! %^)
                                 
    
    "to live outside the law you must be honest rfb"

    :^)  wow...  1992 seems to be the year for all these read-mostly's
    to come out of the closet! :^)
    
    welcome Donna!
    
    					da ve

    re -.1
    
    lotta tape trees musta went down this year. :-) Prob'ly should make it
    a requirement to post to this note first if you want tapes. That'll
    bring 'em out. ;-)
    
    - Gerry

    Welcome Donna.  We don't care how tall you are, ask Lisa (just
    kidding):-) :-)
    
    Rose
    

    Grate to here from yet another noter!!! The more the merrier!!! :^)
    
    Welcome,Donna!!
    
    peace,Andy

    Yes, Hi Donna, welcoem to notes, but I've seen Dedgar before I didn't
    think you were new. then I couldn't figure out from you description who
    you were, knowing you weren't Christine. Then I think I finally put
    space (I'm vague on the face) with the description and I'll bet I
    wouldn't recognize you. SO now that I am completely vague on who you
    might be I feel more comfortable welcoming you and saying hi again. 
    
    	I met you at Chet's (I think)
    Geoff

    
    Geoff...  you met Donna at Chet's the first time you met me!
    
    member???  

    *I* sure remember...and I wasn't even there...
    
    :)
    
    Rob
    

    
    Well HI Donna,
    
    I *have* met you, and am trying to remember if I saw you out at
    Albany...  Methinks the answer is yes...  Between sets on Friday night
    with your fiance?
    
    Also, seen you at Slipknot shows :^)
    
    Tree_who's_a_little_taller_than_MJ
    
    

    
    >Tree_who's_a_little_taller_than_MJ
    
    yeah, just a *little*!!!!  ;-)
    
    

Welcome Donna!!  Heh heh, and I do care about more short people in the file....
I love it!!!  I bet there are almost as many as us as there are Daves!!  :-) 
Any short Daves out there??  ;^) 

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!  :)    :)

Geoff-- Yes, you did meet me at Chet's with MJ AND you said hi to me at 
the Plantation Club on Sat.....

Tree-- Yup, got a big bear hug from you between sets at Albany.  AND I 
definitely go to see Slipknot when I can  :)

Dave-- My username will be changing soon enough..... not to DEADGAR.

So, now that you know who I am (BTW I have *auburn* hair-- can't miss 
me, unless you're as tall as Tree), feel free to say hi.  I'm sometimes 
being my shy self.

Thanks guys....

D

    Oh yah, now I know who you are! I had you confused with someone else. 
    But I knew I met  you at Chet's.
    
    	At least your name is unique )
    Geoff

re:                  <<< Note 45.270 by POWDML::PLX113::edgar >>>
>                                  -< THANKS! >-

>So, now that you know who I am (BTW I have *auburn* hair-- can't miss 

Me too!  And you were at the Plantation Club?  And said hello to Geoff?  And
you met him at the same time he (and I) met MJ at Chet's?  And you got a bear
hug from Tree at Albany?  Probably not the same day I sat next to Tree at
Albany!  And I still can't figure out who you are?  Oh well, this problem will
resolve itself in due time!

adam

    
    Nope, I sat next to Adam on Thursday and saw Donna on Friday... 
    
    treeeeeeee

    
    
     WELCOME to all the new,new,new noters.......
     I haven't had much time lately to spend reading notes( had to start
    working for liven)....
    
     nice to see so many new person's around here, after all that right
    sizing.
    
    
     Divide Dave
    
    
    
    

oops, I dropped a note into the brewers' topic, so I guess I'm not lurking
anymore.  Officially, then, I'll be in here when I can, because the music
calls me, and I want to talk to people about it.  Plus, a couple of good
folks have told me this is a good file.  I have one set of tapes from a
Shoreline show, courtesy of Jim Rehill, and only three albums.  So I have
a huge universe opening up in front of me...

If it matters, I love the Indigo Girl's cover of Uncle John's Band...;-)

DougO

    
        Hey now Doug!
    
        Welcome to the wonderful and sometimes wackey world of Grateful!!
    
                                                         ^dave

    Hey, Doug!  Welcome!
    
    Rob
    

 Hey Now, DougO...welcome to the wonderful world of Grateful!





Jum

    :)
    
    Had to do it!
    
    Hey Doug!  I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I do!
    
    (And now for my list of names:
    
    	Jen {that's my real one}, Sparky, Jensparks, Sparkomatic
    	or anything similar.  That's me!    )
    
    
    

    re: .279
    
    		BOTH!

Welcome Doug!!

I love the Indigo Girls cover of UJB too!!

Lisa

    re .282
    
    I THOUGHT so.  Just checking. :)
    
    Rob
    

    
    
    Velcome Doug-O!
    
    RE: Indigo Girls
    
    It's fine and dandy that you guys dig the Ingigo Girls covering
    UJ's Band. However, it's not a prerequisite for belonging to
    Grateful. The REAL prereq is....
    
    
     METALLICA covering China Doll!!
    
    
    Steve-O   

re: Note 45.285 by SALEM::MARTIN_S 
    
    >The REAL prereq is.... METALLICA covering China Doll!!
    
    Yeah, when you play it backwards it clearly says "Spit on me, Bobby!" :-) 
    

Hey now, DougO!  Welcome!!  We need more west coast DECheads around here!!

8-)

peace,
t!ng

    re .287
    
    	Cut that out GerG :-) ;-)
    
    							/cracking_up
    

    
    
    
    I figured this migt be the best place to place this since I didn't see
    a leaving Digital note.
    
    I wish evryone in here a happy, healthy existence. I have been TFSO'ed
    and will sorely miss this notes conference the most. I do not fear what
    lies ahead. I feel OK about it. I only wish I could stay in here.
    
    Send Jerry lots of positive vibes so we can see 'em again.
    
    Fare you well...
    
    Oso
    

    so long Oso, keep da faith....
    rfb

    
    Sorry to hear you're leaving, Oso.  See you on the road sometime..
    
    peace,
    Phyllis

re: no leaving Digital note ... omigawd but it almost seems we need one.  ;^(


	sorry to see you go Oso!!  Take care now OK?

 Best o' luck to you Oso....








 Jum

    
    Well, as of Friday I will no longer be an AKO-head but a 
    BXC-head!  The joy of moving....AUGH!  But it's a good move
    and I'm looking forward to it!  
    
    Any other heads lurking around BXC?  If so, drop me a note!
    
    MJ

Where's BXC?

tim (who's STILL moving...)

    
    Yup, Boxboro it is.  It's right off of rte 2...  
    Are you moving to Boxboro Tim?
    
    MJ

	I'm headed to BXC right now :-)

When I was in BXC, the site manager had really anal-retentive rules ... like
you couldn't put anything on the outside of your cube walls, you couldn't
have anything higher than the top of your cube walls (like a plant branch 
hanging over the top of a wall was a no-no) ....

I think the place is kinda spooky.  All straight lines and 90 degree
angles, very few colors ... had almost a barracks feel.  I was glad to get
outta there.

Have fun.  :^)

-dc

MJ,

My job has moved to LKG, about 5 minutes from Rt 2 and
495.  Household moves to Littleton this weekend...and
yes, folks, we're still shamelessly soliciting assistant
movers, to help out - we have a few, but the more the 
merrier.

(hint hint ...;-)

See y'all at S.O.S., either way.

Hey, that reminds me, I thought you were going to Chet's
the other night?  I had such a good time, I left half my
clothes there and just got them back today (my coat and
hat).  Which also reminds me, Thanks for the sofa, Chris!!!

tim

    well you won't see ME there if there's no BEER Tim Grady!!!! %^)
    
    good luck...i hate moving, me or anyone else....
    rfb

rfb,

If I knew you were coming, I'd buy all the beer even YOU
could drink!  And a respectable amount I'm sure that would
be, too!   ;-) ;-)

Besides, I didn't really mean there'd be no beer.  That
wouldn't be even humane.  I'm just holding out until
AFTER we're done driving around New England in a 24ft.
truck, that's all.

tim

    
    re: dc   Yikes!  I hope they have chilled out a little over
    there!  I guess I will find out soon enuf!  ;-)
    
    re: tim  wish I could help you out saturday but I'm afraid 
    I've got a wedding to be in!  But I will most likely be at
    SOS!  Didn't make it to Chet's friday cuz I was DEAD tired!  
    And something about fighting the 'tall' crowd at Chet's 
    exhausts me at the thought!  Hope to see you Sunday and good
    luck with the move!  :-)
    
    MJ
    

MJ,

Grate - see you at SOS.  I really wasn't trying to recruit
you specifically for help in the move - I just couldn't
resist the urge to put in just one more plug for help from
the general population. ;-)

Over the past 9 months since I moved to New England, I've
had the chance to meet a lot of the New England DECheads,
and I really enjoy meeting each new person enormously.
It's been a consistently uplifting experience for me.

I've never met such a large, diverse group of genuinely
nice people.  It reaffirms my faith in humans, which has
at times in the past year or two been profoundly shaken.

Have fun in BXC.  

tim

    didn't learn a thing from truck-driver Neal, ehh, Tim?? %^)
    24 foot, shoot, ANYONE can drive a truck that small whilst drinking 
    (note: whilst drinking, not while drunk)
    
    rfb

 Just talked to Rich Butze...he's now a VP of Operations at a publishing house
 in Vermont! (though he couldn't tell me what a VP does all day)..anyway, he
 said to say hello to everybody....HELLO EVERYBODY..and hopes we're all doing
 well, which of course I couldn't answer for all of us, but I assured him that
 many, if not most of us, are indeed doing well.




 We're gonna get together here in the next couple weeks to do some pickin' and
 grinnin'.





 Jum

        Hey now!
        
        I'm back - temporarily - as a contractor in AKO1.  I'll be flying
        in to work Mon-Fri until Nov. 20th.  After that, I might spend a
        week here and there until the end of the year up in Toronto
        (@TRO).
        
        Please keep me on the "remote" dist. list and not in the
        membership list in this conference as this is only temporary.
        
        _Mike Lampson  (DECWRL::"lampson@eisner.decus.org")

    Hey now!  I just got into NYC and am now sitting in Phyllis's cubicle
    on the 9th floor.  Sorry I didn't get to the Hill Street Cafe during
    the Albany run, but I was busy hooking up tickets (and no, I did *not*
    walk around asking for a miracle, thank you! 8-).  I did get in,
    although I was late for the Saturday one 8-(.  I missed you guys!  It
    was nice seeing Fog (salt snorter, you!) and Lisa again, and meeting
    Dave Weiss, Jeff Maggard, and Rich Fromm at the Sunset Grill.  Maybe
    I'll see some more of you next time I'm out here for business ;-).  I
    also saw Derek the other day.  He's still the Mr. Universe y'all knew
    and loved.  He's going to be at Nassau.  See those of you who'll be
    here!!
    
    
    peace,
    t!ng

    I don't know if this will get to T!ng, but here goes anyways...I made
    an attempt to get down to section 103 to say hi, but it was apparently
    the only aisle that the ushers wouldn't let me go down with my section
    110 ticket...so apologies for not making it down there and,
    
    HI!!!
    
    tim
    

    Hello everyone....
    
    	Some of you may remember me from the past couple of years.  My name
    is Mike Bourdess, and I'm a co-op student spending my third term with
    the company.  I used to be at FXO, but since that site no longer
    exists, I'm at MRO-1.
    
    	For those of you who don't know me, I'm a very outdoorsy-type
    person.  I enjoy camping and really like the mountain biking in this
    part of the country.  I go to school in Ohio, so try to make the best
    of being so near the ocean and the mountains of Vermont and NH.\
    
    	Well, I guess that's it, just wanted to say "hello" and "I'm back" to 
    everyone.
    
    		Mike

Welcome Back!

    second that emotion!!!
    rfb

    How's the 4Runner??? ;-)

    I think a 'welcome-back-Mike-lunch' is in order... ...expecially now
    that you're only 10 minutes away ;-)
    
    Takers?
    
    - jeff
    

    The least you can do is introduce yourself . . .
    
    Jamie
    
From:	ASIC::CARMAN "jeff carman  06-Apr-1993 1325"  6-APR-1993 13:50:06.27
To:	Members of conference GRATEFUL
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    I don't want to be a bump on a log, and it looks like the replies to
    this entry have sorta slowed down so here it goes:
    
    I was first introduced to Grateful Notes as a temporary in Dascomb Rd.
    about five years ago. (I also had the extreme pleasure of being
    introduced to mail order by Jim Henderson who I thank for making life
    much easier for me)  After 8 months there I returned to school at the
    University of New Hampshire and graduated in May of 1992.  I recently
    starte another temp. assignment in Salem that should carry me through
    until I go back to grad school, so someday I can realize my hopes and
    aspiritions of being a secondary level teacher.  My last shows were in
    the Boston Gaden, hopefully my sacrifice to the mail order god will pay
    off in the form of Nassau tickets for the Spring shows.  Anyways, since
    I left DEC i have been looking forward to getting re-acquainted with
    this file.  The noters here truly embody what this band is all
    about..Being kind to your fellow human and sharing the joy of their
    music.
    
                             PEACE TO ALL 
                                    chris

    Welcome back Chris!  :-)
    
    :), danielle

    Welcome back to the fold.
    
    Gee, I even hate to be away for the weekend.
    
    Bud

    Awlright!!! Another Salemhead (tm) !!!! Welcome aboard there Chris!!
    
    peace,Andy

    	Hey folks, just thought I'd say hi and introduce myself.  My name is
    Scott and working in the Field Test Group of Components and Peripherals
    in MRO1.  I will be a senior at Cornell in the fall where I'm majoring
    in Operations Research and Industrial Engineering.
    	
    	My musical tastes are very varied and I like a lot of alternative
    stuff.  I just got into the Dead last summer and hopefully will be
    going to my first show August 4th at Giant Stadium, which I'm pretty
    excited about.  I recently got into Phish also, and I will be going to
    my first Phish concert in July.
    
    	I find the easygoingness of the Dead scene to be a pleasant relief,
    especially from all the pressures of Cornell.  I'm amazed at some of
    the stuff I read on these notes files when people say things like "This
    notes file was my only joy at Digital" and "if it wasn't for this notes
    file, I don't know what I'd do".  
    
    	I've heard that when the Dead played Cornell in '78 or so, it was a
    great show.  For some reason, I don't think they'll be back too soon. 
    Bummer :(  
     
    	Take care,
    
    	Scott
    

    Welcome!!!!!!!!
    and Enjoy!!!!!!!11
    
    chris
    

howdy!  didn't i just say hi to you in the cornell notes file?

>I just got into the Dead last summer and hopefully will be
>    going to my first show August 4th at Giant Stadium, which I'm pretty
>    excited about.  I recently got into Phish also, and I will be going to
>    my first Phish concert in July.
 
if ya wanna go to 2 shows at venues that will probably be very laid back, i'd
suggest seeing the dead in highgate, vt (july 13), which has it's own planning
note in this file, and phish at sugarbush (july 16).  i'm immensly looking
forward to both of those shows.

>    	I've heard that when the Dead played Cornell in '78 or so, it was a
>    great show.  For some reason, I don't think they'll be back too soon. 

the infamous Cornell '77 show was in Barton Hall during Springfest weekend.
(i gather that Springfest used to be a bit of a more organized weekend
festival as opposed to the simple day of drunkenness that it has evolved
into).  they also played there in '80 and '81, i believe.  i got a kick out
of taking final exams in a room where a dead show happened.

- rich

re: fromminator

>if ya wanna go to 2 shows at venues that will probably be very laid back, i'd
>suggest seeing the dead in highgate, vt (july 13), which has it's own planning
>note in this file, and phish at sugarbush (july 16).  i'm immensly looking
>forward to both of those shows.

i'll be at both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome, Scott.

Life goes on...as we lose so many old, good friends from this community, it's
good to see new names joining us.  Helps to keep things sane.  Sadly, you've
just missed the exeunt of several classic DECheads.

Hey, Rich, any Sugarbush tix left?  ;-)

tim

>Hey, Rich, any Sugarbush tix left?  ;-)

yes, there are still tickets left, but i wouldn't let it go until the last
minute.  call 800-53-SUGAR to charge by phone at the mountain and bypass
ticketbastards!

the ticket office referred me to two campgrounds.  one isn't really a
campground - it's just a big field next to a texaco station a little bit from
the entrance to the sugarbush access road.  i guess it could be kind of fun
staying there, but not exactly ideal, and they don't take reservations.

the only real campground that they referred me to is 30 minutes away.  i'd
like to find something closer.  i'm trying to get ahold of my friend in
burlington for suggestions.  anyone got any?

or i might just bag the campground idea.  jc's staying in some kind of inn or
b&b, i believe.

- rich

    Hey folks, I've got a question.  I read through the mail order topic,
    but I still didn't find it.  What's the deal with mail order?  If I'm
    trying to get tickets for the August 4th show at Giant Stadium, should
    I try mail order or take my chances on the phone when they go on sale
    on June 25?
     
    I'm excited about my first show.  If I get tickets to both, I will be
    going to the Dead on Thu. and then Lollapalooza the next day.  Quite a
    change.  How long are they're shows usually?  Rich, I've heard Phish
    plays for like 4 hrs.?   (sorry for saying anything about Phish on
    here, since I know that a lot of people would rather nothing about
    Phish showed up on dead related conferences.)
    
    The other day I was in the car with my dad who is 53.  Ripple came on
    WZLX and I asked him if he knew who it was.  He had no idea and I told
    him and he said "I thought the Grateful Dead was a heavy metal band." 
    I've heard this several times.  Why do so many people think that?

    mail order for the first part of summer tour went out on april 22
    the second half including giants went out on the 29th..so you will
    have to try the outlet method or see if one of the faithful can hook
    you up with an extra.....you SHOULD try to get ahold of a vermont
    ticket before choosing Joisey.......
    chris_anti_NJ_for_a_virtual_myriad_of_reasons

>What's the deal with mail order?

ya gotta plan a bit in advance for mail order.  too late for this summer tour.
and there's no mail order for highgate.

not trying to burst your bubble or anything, but a lot of people (myself
included) are of the opinion that the meadowlands is one of the worst places
to see a dead show.  i went to brendan byrne for 3 shows in '89 and vowed that
i'd never return.  i haven't.  again, i strongly suggest highgate...

>Rich, I've heard Phish
>    plays for like 4 hrs.?

well, that would be a little unusual.  (although amy's farm did go from about
3 until 8:30).  typically expect 2 90 minute sets with a 30 minute break.
although the first sets have been getting quite a bit shorter, so 60-70 minutes
wouldn't be all that unusual.  of course, there are also sometimes second sets
that run more than 100 minutes.  it's hard to say.  and sugarbush is the last
show of the tour.  so they might be tired and not do anything special, or they
might make it really special having returned to their home state.  who knows?

>   (sorry for saying anything about Phish on
>    here, since I know that a lot of people would rather nothing about
>    Phish showed up on dead related conferences.)
 
well, since there isn't (yet) a phish conference here, i guess it's
acceptable (and usually occurs in note 237).  in fact, i'd say about 90% of
this notes file has usually nothing to do with the dead!

- rich

Rich, what do you mean %90 percent of what goes on in here has nothing to do 
with the Dead?  Hey My boat in named "Nuthin Shakin" and I'm always talking 
about that. And don't the Bruins play Boston Garden, The Dead have played 
there many times, seen it myself.  And don't we buy our brew supplies from 
Stella Brew? It all sounds Dead related to me. ;^);^);^).


	Then there's the prospects of a Scarlet Fire on Buzzards Bay, we'll 
talk about that next year.

Geoff

re    <<< Note 45.324 by ROCK::FROMM "This space intentionally left blank." >>>
                                -< dead phish >-

>or i might just bag the campground idea.  jc's staying in some kind of inn or
>b&b, i believe.

yup, deb and i are staying at a b&b 1 mile from sugarbush north.
so, i can be irresponsible in the mind bending dept!  :-)

    Hey, Scott,
    
    Welcome to Grateful and DEC.  (I'll be leaving shortly myself.)  
    
    A few notes ago, you asked why people think the Dead are a heavy metal
    band.  First of all, these must be people who never heard the Dead. 
    While the Dead are (and have been) many things, I wouldn't say that
    "heavy metal" is one of them.  I think it has to do with the image
    thing.  First of all, the name "Grateful Dead" probably conjures up
    some heavy metal-type images.  And the skull/skeleton motif causes
    some image problems for the uninitiated also.
    
    But we know better.
    
    Bud

    welcome scott
    
    rfb

  >> I've heard that when the Dead played Cornell in '78 or so, it was a
  >> great show.  For some reason, I don't think they'll be back too soon. 
  >
  > the infamous Cornell '77 show was in Barton Hall during Springfest weekend.
  > (i gather that Springfest used to be a bit of a more organized weekend
  > festival as opposed to the simple day of drunkenness that it has evolved
  > into).  they also played there in '80 and '81, i believe.  i got a kick out
  > of taking final exams in a room where a dead show happened.
    
 Hi, Scott, Rich- I wasn't around for '77, but my first Dead show was at
 Barton Hall in I think late '79; though it may have been spring semester
 '80, the calendar memory is pretty hazy from those years.  You say you got
 a kick out of taking finals where the Dead had played?  I got a kick out
 of seeing the Dead in the same place I wore an AFROTC uniform and
 marched around every week!  That was *really* different.
 
 DougO

    I was there for the 81 show (M. Eng Program, Operations Research);
    were you there then, Doug?

Hey Now,

Just thought I'd drop by and say hello.
I recognize quite a few names out there.
For those that don't know me, i'm Tim Dalton and 
I just started in hudson on Monday.  I'll be workin'
in FAB6 soon.

Not too much to say right now, 

	Tim

welcome aboard tim!

- rich

Yes welcome....it's a welcome change!
bob

Hiya tim,

Welcome to GRATEFUL!  Gonna take a while to get used to you being on this 
side of the DECNET-Internet routers.

See ya at a DEChead luncheon sometime ;-)

Josh

hey tim, welcome mon.

saw your 'welcome' in homebrew.


jc

    
    glad to have you on board Tim.
    Your name seems to ring a bell for some reason.
    Maybe we crossed paths somewhere along the way
    
    	Mark

    Greetings!
    
    Had enough of MIT?  
    
    Welcome to the Monkey House!
    
    	dave
    

as for my name ringing a bell thats because it might.
I've known a few people from these parts for a while, been at some
of the standard parties, helped seed the europe 90 dub-a-thon at
fog's chateau (whip-suck-a-what-ie???).
You know, been there, done that.

Any yes Dave, I've had enough of MIT.  Almost 6 years of the place
before they let me out.  Didn't waste any time there.
Terminated me the day I defended.

	Tim

Jeeze, They'll let anyone in here won't they:-)

Glad to have you aboard.

Geoff

re:         <<< Note 45.341 by SUBPAC::DALTON "$ERR:No Name Specified" >>>

> helped seed the europe 90 dub-a-thon at fog's chateau 

Gee, it's been 4 years since the last one eh ?  ;-)

Welcome to what's left of DEC!

/Ken

    Welcome again Tim...(saw your note in Homebrew too) :')
    
    Chris

Tim,

Welcome to the Titanic.

tim

    tim dalton...is this timtim????
    
    rfb

Hey Tim, As your official Hazing coorinator for your indoctrination into 
Grateful, you must 1) Organize a lunch. 2) Kiss the DJRR; 3) Organize a 
camping trip; 4) tell us how many hours of Dark Star have been played, and
5) organize a ski trip.

And thought MIT was a tough place. HHAAAAH  HAAA HHAAA HAAAAARRR!

Hey Now!  It is TimTim!  Master of the clusterf*ck and taper extrodinare!
Welcome Aboard!  All those years in material etching should have
you lined up well for FAB6.  Cool.  Did you ever marry Heidi (seem to 
remember seeing something about the intention a good while back in rmgd.)
Heading up to Highgate?  And did you ever find my D6 mini-plug to rca 
connector cable from the 91'sh Albany/Nassua run ;-)

PeterT

    howdy timtim!!!!!!!!
    
    rfb

mebbe now we tim's can give the dave's a run for their money...


;-)

tim

    Is this the same Tim "In Himmel is kein Bier, darum trinken wir
    es hier." Tim
    
    chris_non_Germanic_origin

Alright!  A nethead becomes a DEChead!  Welcome to the club!

adam

    
    re .350
    
    		in yer dreamz bud... 
    
    		"tim-erity" isn't quite the same as "dave-ness"...
    
    		close, but no hand-rolled havana...   :^) :^) :^)
    
    
    						da ve

Yes randy, it is me, the same time from Denver in
what ever year that was...92 ?
Sure could use a gallon jug of stout from the Wynkoop
right about now!

	Tim

Lets see Fog,
1) organize a lunch - someone else who knows the area should do that, or else I'll organize it for Cambridge
2) kiss the what ?
3) camping trip...ok...this weekend, on Mt. Adams.  Be there or miss out!
4) dark star - not enough hours of them! but way too many hours of queen jane!
5) ski trip - Lucerne in Jan 95.  All aboard!

I knew I should have read themall first.

So this is where you ended up PeterT, haven't seen you on the net for a while.
To answer some of your questions:
1) all those years of etching lined my up for FAB6 indeed
2) Heidi and I are in the middle of a long engagement...looks like next summer will be the wedding
3) I hope to go to Higate.
4) never did find that missing connector...talk to eric simon ;-)

I have been know to sign a post or 2 as : "In Himmel ist kein Bier, darum drinken weir es hier"

re:         <<< Note 45.357 by SUBPAC::DALTON "$ERR:No Name Specified" >>>
>                           -< Ein, zwei, Gazuffah! >-
>
>I have been know to sign a post or 2 as : "In Himmel ist kein Bier, darum
>drinken weir es hier"

Tim,

Might as well get this out of the way quick...

Please set your right margin to 80 columns or less!  Those of us without fancy
fonts can't see the end of your lines (even though I can't read German :-)). 
Are you using a VT100 (with 84 column lines)? :-) :-)

adam

Yeah Tim, stop using that stoopid DECwindows interface to notes, and 
use the character cell interface (notes/nodecwin), the way God and VMS 
intended it !   :-)
									   -Josh

>Yeah Tim, stop using that stoopid DECwindows interface to notes, and 
>use the character cell interface (notes/nodecwin), the way God and VMS 
>intended it !   :-)

FYI - DEC Notes V2.4 (and 2.5 I assume) does word wrapping at the window
border correctly.  These lines were typed without any RETURNs entered and they
have wrapped ok.

	dave

>>Yeah Tim, stop using that stoopid DECwindows interface to notes, and 
>>use the character cell interface (notes/nodecwin), the way God and VMS 
>>intended it !   :-)


 Nah use a real O/S go with UNIX.

 Shawn_a_novice_to_UNIX_but_have_fun_with_it.

What?  You guy's can't stretch things on the fly?  ;-)  Of course now
I've stretched my window to the right and I'm not sure where 80 cols
is now, so forgive me if I drift off a bit.  I'll try and stay away from
the border ;-) (cepting for Highgate!)  

Yeah, I sort of dropped out of rmgd when I got here.  Too much bandwidth
at the time, too little content, and too many flames.  And Grateful
is pretty cool.  I'll occassionaly drop in to lurk, but work and some
other newsgroups take up enough of my time ;-)  I did get on the 
DeadHeads mailing list where I'd see setlists and ticket announcements
and the like, but I haven't even gotten anything from that in a long while.
Don't worry about the connector.  I've gotten another one long since.
Now I've just got to get my Nak fixed so I can dub again!!  (And don't
be telling me to go DAT!  That's pretty far down on the wish list at the
moment.  Other toys would have to come first ;-)

Does Heidi have any plans for Shoemaker-Levy/Jupiter?  I seem to remember
seeing either a post by her, or her name linked with some conference about
that shortly after they first figured out it would do the collision thing.
(Sci.astro is another lurking area for me, though I must admit, my most
frequented group is rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon-5 these days ;-)

Later,
PeterT

Adam,

If I knew how to tell how wide the margin is, I would 
set it.  But all I get from notes is a random DECwindow
that can be stretched to any size.

	Tim

    Notes relating to Jupiter crash have been moved to 348 - 
    Counting Stars by Candlelight.  They might be slightly out
    of order since I only vaguely know what I'm doing.
    
    PeterT
    

    
    
    Hi All,
    
    		Been a Read Only Noter for about 3 years now....
    It's about time I entered a Note! I haven't seen the Boyz since 87 in
    Hartford! The best show I've seen was Oxford Me 1981 I think....
    
    
    Toby

Welcome to the funny farm, Toby!

    Howdy!
    
    rfb

    
    
    Hi Toby!  Nice to have new faces around these here parts.   :-0
    
    
    Steve-O   :-)

    
    
    Hi Toby!  I guess after 3 years it's about time you spoke up!
    
    welcome!
    
    MJ

    
    	hiya Toby...  i was wondering how long it would be before you broke
    down...  :^)  the HLO DEChead count increases again!
    
    					da ve

Welcome Toby.
DECheads in HLO...who'd a thunk it!

	Tim

    
    
    How else can you 'splain HLO's Success!  8-)
    
    toby

    Howdy one and all!
    
    My name is Mike Charnoky and I work in Hudson: HLO2
    
    This is my second time at DEC (I'm a co-op from Cincinnati) and am a
    newly christened noter.  (I hope this gets read - it looks like
    nobody'd posted here since June!)
    
    The past three nights at the Gardens were fan-tas-tik!  Now I need some
    time to recuperate.  I'm hoping to get more serious about my guitar
    playing, wander around NH & MA to see the foliage, and maybe even
    design a new dechead shirt! (I want one, too!)  Any ideas are
    welcome... I'll post more in the t-shirt note.
    
    It's been nice meeting some of you at the Commonwealth - I'll be
    looking forward to some good times in the future!
    
    
    Mike

    Welcome Mike !
    
    I was in Cincinnati this summer :') nice city !
    
    although you might have never known him ,Bob White would be very proud
    that now GRATEFUL has some who can spell sinsinattee :')
    
    Chris

    
    welcome on board.  Nice to get together with you Tuesday.  
    A new shirt person,  Glad to hear it.
    
    	Mark

    and anothr welcome from another HLO2 person!!!  gee, HLO seems to be
    becoming DEChead central! :^) :^) :^)
    
    					da ve

Nah, no one ever reads these notes so we never know who the new guys are!

;-)

Or, more likely, Digital has unfortuantely been seeing more of an outflow
of people rather than an influx, so it's rare that a new head pops up
these days.  But welcome aboard!

PeterT

Hey there, Mike!!!

:-)

    
    
    Hullo dere Mike
    
    
    Toby

    Mike
    welcome to the fray!!!!!!!
    chris
    

Hi Mike, We all see this note becasause we're all "next unseen" readers.

Give it a try:

Notes> set seen

Wait five minutes then hit KP , and you'll see the next note.

The KP Enter key will scroll you through all the replies in a note then go 
to Next Unseen after the last note. KP , will skip the remaining replies in 
a given topic.

You can also do things like:

Notes set seen/before=yesterday, and then start next unseening through all 
the newest entries in the conference...

Enjoy!

    
    
    Gosh, I finally found the introductory note! I've posted here and
    there so I guess I should tell ya who I am.
    
    I'm Kip Quackenbush, and by the looks of it, only one of the few
    remaining west coasters grateful for this conference. I'm out of
    the San Francisco office and work in the VideoServer group in SHR3.
    
    Sorry about the review of the Shorline show in the wrong place. I was
    just too excited! Hope some of you caught the "profit" motive.
    Estimated is one of my favorites!
    
    Anyway, I'll keep postin' on what's up out here...I have to travel to
    SHR all the time, so maybe I can meet some of you pretty soon. 
    
    Enjoy the BG shows this weekend!
    
    

    
    greetings Kip, and let us know when you're out this way... there's
    always SOMETHING happening!  :^)
    
    					da ve

    
    
    So, I guess I should take the big plunge, come out the closet, give
    up my life as a voyeur and introduce myself to this conference...
    especially since I'm not a virgin (Grateful Dead virgin, that is) anymore.
    
    I'm Kathy Gallup, better known as Kath or Kat in notes because I'm 
    too lazy to type my full name.  I love the music scene, and have been 
    known to spend multiple days in a row out at shows -- but mainly in 
    dark, dingy clubs watching raw, real, and rough alternative acts.  Last
    night was my first time at a large concert in over two years -- yes, 
    I took the plunge and did a Dead show.  
    
    When I popped into this conference last week (it comes well-recommended, 
    I might add, as a fun place to note) I saw quite a few familiar names 
    that I've known from Digital in the past 8 years that I've been here.  
    Great to bump into you all again.
    
    As for me, I can be found most days in MRO1, where I work in the
    Knowledge-Based Solutions Group as a Senior Software Engineer -- mainly
    working in wireless (cellular) fraud (no, not committing fraud, detecting 
    it!)  ;-)
    
    Kath
    

    
    hi Kath!
    
    	welcome to the bus!  :^)
    
    				da ve

Howdy Kat,

   Hmmm, your job description and node name lead me to think you might
work with Lisa Speilman, with whom I graduated from HS, way on 21
years or so ago.  I was talking with her at our 20th reuninon a year
ago summer, and she mentioned she was into the fraud detection stuff.
If so, say howdy! (though I did just talk to her about a week ago,
in regards to more High School directory stuff (which I failed to 
follow up on ;-))

PeterT

    
    Hey Kath!
    
    Nice description of your first show...believe me, the boyz are NEVER
    routine! Hope you've now got on the bus (sounds like it) and will enjoy
    the grateful conference too.
    
    BTW: I worked with Malcolm Bliss and Henrik & Sharron a couple of years
    ago starting the clone detector stuff. We were going to sell it to Pac
    Tel Cellular but then GTE came along...
    
    Anyway, keep up those excellent show reviews!
    
    	 - kip - 

    Welcome and Hi Kip and Kath...Kath, I've seen yer notes somewhere before, 
    and I believe you used to work in Colo Spgs?? 
    rfb

    
    
    See, the world is a small place.....  
    
    Peter:  Yep, Lisa Spielman and I pal around quite a bit, she sits 
    right across the aisle from me and we share the pain of this Fraud 
    stuff together...
    
    Kip:  PacTel should have bit when they could have, GTE is sweeping the
    country with our product (and we've got a few installations in Europe
    ourselves, not to mention some new business in Asia).  Malcolm left the
    company last month, Henrik is over in HLO now, and Sharon quit Digital
    a couple of years ago and is pregnant with her second bambino.
    
    I'll tell everyone you said "Hi" though!
    
    kath

    
    
    RE: .388
    
    Yup.  I started with Digital in Colorado Springs (88-90).  Then
    transferred to Mass to the group I'm in now.   I also used to moderate
    that conference that I won't mention here for fear that rotten tomatoes
    and other such things will be tossed at me.  You might have seen my 
    name there....
    
    I'm pretty quite on the net now as far as Notes go...
    
    kath

Hi Kat,

Welcome to the bus, and you can meet a bunch of us pre-show down at
the beloved Commonwealth Brewery.  We congregate downstairs by the
tables by the glass wall.

Josh

    
     Hi Kathy
    
     I thought I knew that name!!!
    
    No one here would throw rotten tomatoes, they all use fresh veggies...
    
     Weclome and nice to see your still hanging around
    
    Divide Dave

    re .390
    Gee kath, I can think of at least two notes conferences I've
    seen you in (though I don't think we've met).  But I can't
    imagine rotten tomatoes heading your way.

    I'm a virgin too, btw - but not after tonite!

    
    Tom

Just to contribute to the 'small world' theme, as Kath already knows,
before I left Florida to join NAC, I was assigned to GTE Cellular in
Tampa for quite some time - so I'm another co-conspirator in the Cellular
business product crowd...interesting stuff she's working on...

tim

Hey...

I just posted a note, so I figure I'd better "officially" introduce 
myself.  I'm mostly a read-only kind of guy, but I've communicated with 
a few of my fellow DECheads...  getting DEChead T-shirts (I have V2 and V3), 
and following up on other topics.

I've been at DEC just over five years... Somedays it seems longer, some 
days not.  I work in MKO as a writer/documentation and publications 
consultant...   My group's charter is to work with DEC customers, but 
lately that work has been gettin' scarcer and scarcer.  

I gravitate to this conference mostly because it is a conference where 
I can feel like I fit in... 

I think I'm more into Reggae than I am into the Dead, but I guess I 
qualify because I have been to a couple of shows, and I have a small 
collection of tapes (non-commercial), and in my earlier years I used 
to go on many, many "trips."   

The thing I like most about GRATEFUL is reading (and now writing) about 
things and not feeling likeI have to apologize, explain, or downplay my 
lifestyle, interests, and past experiences.  It really has been a long, 
strange trip...  But, boy-howdy, it sure has been fun.

Anyhow, perhaps you'll "see" me in here more often.  

--Tom (who usually signs only --t or sometimes t-bone)  

    Me too, ah rekon.  Rick Calcagni here, yet another HLO'er!  I'm sorta new
    to this Dead stuff, so bear with me.  It all started over the summer; I
    met a new friend who got me listening and it's been slowly building to my
    first show last Wednesday (and #2 last night).  The rest, as they say, is
    history.  For some reason, I've missed the bus until now.  What was I
    thinking!?  My only excuse is that while I've "heard" the Dead for
    years (make that decades), I never really "listened" to the Dead before.
    Right now they're taking up about 95% of my ear time.

    I play bass in the Alternate Quartet (our CD "Rainforest Rhumboogie" is
    available at finer music emporiums everywhere :-) and while we're not
    really like the Dead, some of our stuff wouldn't sound too out of place
    during Space.  Plus I think we share a common attitude about how the
    music should be organic and flow.  And of course, I get zoned on Phil!

    Many, many thanks for this notesfile.  It's been a grate source for me
    digging through old notes, picking up recommondations on recordings,
    bits of trivia, etc.  The mailorder info was invaluable, and more
    than anything helped to get me off my duff and out to my first show.
    Looking forward to reading from (and maybe even meeting) more of you.

    /rick
    

    welcome rick and --t
    
    --t , do you work for IDC/SES???
    
    rfb_who works for IDC/SES for the time being...

Hey rfb....

Yup, I work for IDC/SES for now....  Who knows beyond the next few
weeks/months.

I think you and I had a *brief* exchange of mail messages once.  I 
remember reading they you were a military kid, and were in Germany 
around the same time I was in K-town...  I sent mail, you responded 
and suggested that we grab a brew or two if I happened to be in CO.

BTW, you might look for a guy named Gary Knighting -- he too is in 
IDC/SES and just moved to your neck o' the woods (on his own dime).
Not a bad guy...  Has good taste in music, beer, guns, likes 
to fish, and is a farily awesome guitar player.  If you run into him, 
you can get his goat by calling him an effette, intellectual, 
East-coast liberal.   

Thanks for the welcome...

--t 

    I remember you now Tom......I'll say howdy to Gary....
    
    rfb

Wow, I check out for a few weeks and a whole mess of new folks check in!

Its great seeing more folks come in than go out for a change!

    Well, boyz and girlz. I'm BAAAAACK! After four years contracting for
    folks outside DEC, I have landed here again.
    
    I still live in Albuquerque. Last time I was commuting to Colorado
    Springs; this time the commute is a little longer... to NEW HAMPSHIRE!
    
    Boy, those arms are going to get tired flapping that far...
    
    I'm at MK01 and will be here for at least three months. I'm looking
    forward to meeting some of you eastern-type DECHeads somewhere down the
    road.
    
    ...Michael T. DeadHead
     (Mike TRLIAN::Duggan)

Welcome back, Michael!!

Didja bring your model trains with you??

	dave

    Matter of fact I pretty much quit modeling in HO scale when I jopined
    the Friends of the Cumbres and Toltec ... now I model in
    12'-to-the-foot scale...
    (Every summer I go up to Chama, N.M. for a week and help restore and
    preserve a 64-mile-long narrow-gauge railroad)
    
    Sinec I last talked with y'all I have been to all the Las Vegas
    concerts and one at Shoreline.
    
    ...Michael T DeadHead

                      <<< Note 45.404 by TRLIAN::DUGGAN >>>
Welcome Back MT Deadhead....

So did you make it through the Grand Canyon on your rafting expedition???

bob

    No. I drownded.
    
    :-)
    
    Yeah... sixteen days... fabulous float.
    
    ...M.T. DeadHead

    welcome back Mike! Surprised we didn't see you at the Vegas runs! 
    (for those of you who haven't seen him, Mike is NOT easy to miss, we
    look REAL funny standing next to each other! )
    
    again, welcome back!
    
    rfb

    We were always on the west (SHADY!!!) side.
    
    I heard the stadium floor hit 150 degrees ... too toasty for my pore
    little feet.
    
    
    ...mikey

    all you west coasters are shady.....
    oh you were IN the shade..:^)
    not_so_shady_eastie

HEY MON!

welcome back.

jc

    to quote Greg Brown, "who'd 'a thunk it?"  :^)
    
    	welcome back MT... 
    
    					da ve

    
    
    Hey Grateful and all of its members! Wow, have I missed you! 
    I'm back at DEC for the summer working in MRO1.  I haven't 
    had a chance to check out the file and see what's been happening
    but I wanted to say hello to everyone cuz I'm back!  :-)  :-)
    
    peace...  MJ

    
    Welcome back MJ,
      come on down and visit us at mro01-1lm27.  We are in the process of
    ISO registration today, so we are kinda busy.  Hopefully we'll be all
    set this afternoon.
    
    	Mark

                                 Hi, MJ!

    
    Hey MJ
    
    Welcome back!  Things at DEC are a little better now!

Hey welcome back MJ!!!

Hmmm... that FYFWF lunch thing at the Horseshoe Pub in Hudson still on for
tomorrow?  (or was it today and I missed it?)



- jeff

    Hi MJ!!!
    
    :), danielle

                      <<< Note 45.412 by MROA::MCONNORS >>>

MJ,  

welcome back!

bob

    (i'm back) (missed you GRATEFUL)
    
    Debess

    hi debess
    nice to see you and guntis at SOS
    
    
    chris

  <<< Note 45.419 by EVMS::GRABAZS "IHad1ofThoseFlashesI'dBeenThereBefore" >>>
                                 -< hEY nOW! >-
>    (i'm back) (missed you GRATEFUL)
>    Debess


WOW!  Welcome back - 

bob

    
    Well Debess, guess we can take you off the notatDEC.dis.  You
    won't miss any of the fun now! Are you at ZKO?
    
    It will be nice to see some social/environmental messages
    from you.
    
    and just in time to get more funsters interested in coming
    to the Octoberfest!!
    
    Cath
 

    
    YEEE HAW!!! Debess is back!!!!!
    
    Leave it to Debess to come back just in time for the Autumnal
    Enquinox.
            
    Something to be happy about on this most difficult week.
                          

    WELCOME BACK DEBESS!!!  We need you here.
    
    c

	Welcome back Debess!

Mark

RAGE!
welcome back!



ah yes, fall is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my #2 season

    Welcome Back Debess
    
    Wes

    Wow, Debess is back!!  Cool! ;-)

    /Ken

finally, I see some good news today. Welcome back Debess!!!!!!!

    Welcome back Debess!

    seen in zko caf today (Friday, 10/6) guy with pale purple
    tiedye with Commonwealth Brewery worked into a SYF.  Saw you
    in the cashier line and then didn't get a chance to say 'hey
    who are you?'
    
    who ARE you?
    
    carol

    Did he have dark hair and beard?  Might be Rob Lemieux (I very much
    doubt I spelled that right ;-)  I know he's into brewing and the 
    Dead, but I don't think he follows this conference.
    
    Of course it could be someone else...
    
    PeterT
    
    (certainly wasn't me, besides from the fact you already know me,
    I'm sitting at home quaffing a brew and chili, and fixing up
    my code...  and I'm nekkid dammit!  Have to be REAL careful with
    the chili  ;-)
    
    

    peterT....nudity....home....go figure

    Since my old node ::CLOSUS, dissapeared last week, I'm signing in as a
    new person under STRIKE::BARNES
    
    Those wishing to contact me out-of-conference can do so on the above
    node.....
    
    
    rfb

    
    	Only a year + since the last entry?????
    
    	Just to let pholks know, that I am now in zko.  I came in with that
    rowdy, noisy CSS crowd.  I get the impression that there are a number
    of 'heads at this location.  Who/where are you?
    
    	Glen(n)
    

Zk1 2 or 3?

Let's see:  PeterT ZK3-2, 
Jeff Strobel, Bob Hapgood ZK3-3
Debess ZK3-4  
Bruce Laru ZK3-4??  

From what Jollimore was saying the other day, he's one of those
Merrimack people who are making us change our phone numbers
and I think he said he'll be in ZK3-2.

And Carol Roberts, ZK1 in the library,
and Cathy Sloan, ZK1 or 2?  I think 1 but that's a guess...

Am I forgetting any?  Probably....

PeterT

    
    	....on the way out,,,, but   zk2-1 is where I'm at....
    
    
    		264-5815
    
    			gotta go play in traffic
    
    				later/glen(n)
    

> Am I forgetting any?  Probably....

oh yeah, Robyn Sampson ZK2-(3?) (sorry Robyn!
I don't seem to run into you as often as the others)

I'm ZK3-4.

Jim

    re. .438 (PeterT)
    
    yeah, I'm still in ZK2-3.
    
    No need to apologize - I'm working some pretty strange hours these days 
    (5:30AM -2PM) to minimize my kids daycare time and so not many people
    see me these days and I'm just getting caught up in notes so I haven't
    written any in awhile making it kind of easy to forget me.  
    
    Robyn
    

mko is now a fidelity building. we're guests.
unwanted, at that.
if we stay much longer we'll need to wear hard hats.
i'll be zk3-2 on the 28th.
for those that call:
i'm bringing my old phone number with me ;-)

I'm in ZKO too, sometimes....and sometimes LKG...

"Caught between the longing for love,
 and the struggle for the legal tender..."

tim

    Ooops, forgot Mike Rodgers, ZK3-3, and I DO run into him on a 
    regular basis, so just a lame memory...
    
    PeterT

    re; Tim G.
    
    "Keepin up, with the Jones is Killin me.
    She's just one more bad habit I was too blind to see."

    
    Ya I'm still at ZK0 -- ZK2-2/R80 (near the mail room).  I work
    for BEA Systems though and they are looking for a building for
    us. Right now it's between a building Amherst St, Nashua and one
    in Hudson on river rd. (old Raytheon building).
    
    I'm suppose to off the digital network by June and eventually
    moving out.  I hope you guys keep me in the loop though for the
    good stuff.
    
    Cath

rfb,

That reminds me.
I just saw this funny website about slammin' yer ex....
in section entitled "Postcards to your Ex" I found this:

You're like an old habit.
I want to kick you.
HARD.

;-)

tim

	call me humor-impaired, tim, but thumbs down on that one...

    
    reminds me of a card of of my ex's best friends sent her after we got
    divorced...
    
    "just remember, getting a divorce is like the week after
    thanksgiving...
    
    
    
    		it's always better when the turkey's gone..."
    
    
    				ouch....   :^)
    
    
    						da ve

    call me humorly incorrect but i found it rather amusing

Cornelius Leblanc,
you are humorly incorrect.
:-)

    	Another sometimes-ZKO sometimes-noter checking in (chuck, who 
    lives at ZK2-2/PE2 one or two days a week...), who doesn't mind driving
    the hour to ZK occasionally because it permits him to pickup
    dinner-to-go at Indian Village, like he's on his way to get! (grammar
    Alert! Grammar Alert! :^)
    
    -Chuck