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Conference msgaxp::optical

Title:Optical Products
Moderator:TAPE::SENEKER
Created:Wed May 04 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:841
Total number of notes:3218

786.0. "US DESIGN 1723 = DIGITAL RWZXX ?" by ZPOVC::CHEEHEONG () Mon Feb 17 1997 15:53

    Hi
    
    I have problem with an US Design jukebox. It is showing an error code
    of 34. As I am not able to get hold of a service manual, I can only
    guess that the SCSI is having a problem since I could not see the
    jukebox device under console prompt when 'sh dev'.
    
    May I know what is the equivalent Digital model (RWZXX ?) for 
    US Design 1723. I also have problem converting this part no.
    C1703-60101 into Digital part no.
    
    I desperately need help.
    
    rgds
    -leech-
    
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786.1do you have a good reason?TAPE::SENEKERHead banging causes brain mushMon Feb 17 1997 17:0625
    leech,
    
    Regarding...

>>> I have problem with an US Design jukebox.
    
    Please help me understand why "Digital" should help with a problem
    involving a US Design jukebox?  Also, why would you expect Digital
    to "know" anything about these jukeboxes?
    
    I don't have any lists that cross references 1723 or 1703 to any
    Digital part numbers.  How many drives and storage slots does this
    jukebox have?  Plus is it manufactured by HP and resold as a US
    Design jukebox in the same manner as the Digital RW5xx jukeboxes?
    
    Regarding...

>>> I desperately need help.

    We don't mind helping, but please tell us how this is helping a
    Digital?  Starting out your note saying you are having problems
    with a competitors jukebox is not the best way to get us to help
    you!!!

    Rob
786.2Where the field may be coming from...CSC32::S_WASKEWICZTue Feb 18 1997 18:1625
    
    re.
    >>>Please help me understand why "Digital" should help with a problem
    >>>involving a US Design jukebox?  Also, why would you expect Digital
    >>>to "know" anything about these jukeboxes?"
    
         The U.S. Customer Support Centers provide support for many different 
    vendors equipmen. There are many other vendors software and hardware 
    products that MCS takes care of, other than DIGITAL's products.
         MCS derives a great deal of service revenue from "hardware only" 
    maintenance on equipment, and, as is the case with many of the Category C 
    contracts that are written (local branch support only) on these products, 
    the  local office resources are left to fend for themselves with no
    corporate support requirements written into those contracts.
         That doesn't stop folks from looking for help in those places
    (where possibly trained folks used to reside before CSC re-alignments) 
    that can give that help where its needed. 
         Its also our charter, when needed, to try to get the assistance the 
    field may need directly from the vendors, and to intervene in 
    "finger-pointing" to resolve who may own the issues. 
    
    
    Steve Waskewicz
    Customer Support Center
    Storage Support    (often caught between a rock and a hard place!)
786.3TAPE::SENEKERHead banging causes brain mushTue Feb 18 1997 19:3837
    Steve,
    
    You list some good points on why questions may be post in this
    notes conference that "we" may not be able to answer.
    
    To all,
    
    Regarding my earlier "we"...
    
    >> We don't mind helping, but please tell us how this is helping a
    >> Digital?
    
    I hope I haven't overstepped the usage of "we".  I have hoped that
    "we" is myself, people from SEP, the CSCs, and other regular answers
    in this conference.  I hope that "we" will attempt to provide accurate
    information to any question posted as long as it is not in conflict
    with any business issues.
    
    Another issue that I am trying to imply is that this is a conference
    primarily for Digital optical products, i.e. those that contain
    Digital in the name.
    
    In the event that a non-Digital product question is posted, I am trying
    to educate people that each of us makes some personal association with
    our jobs and the fact that our jobs put money in our pockets.  In my
    case, US Design is a competitor and anything that helps US Design hurts
    me because each US Design system is one less OSDS/OSMS/RWXXX system that
    Digital could have sold.  So in my case, before I answer a question
    about any optical stuff besides OSDS/OSMS/RWXXX, I have to know how it
    is helping Digital in a bigger picture so I can feel that I am not
    hurting my ability to earn an income in the future.
    
    Maybe the best answer for this question (.0) is to provide the 
    phone number of US Design support.  I don't have it, does anybody
    else have it?
    
    Rob
786.4LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionTue Feb 18 1997 20:0217
    Start with 410-381-3000 (Columbia, MD) for U.S. Design.
    
    I have no objection to oddball questions like this one in this notes
    file. For many of the same reasons that Rob states, I do reserve the
    right to not answer them... MCS supports a number of products that
    Engineering is uninterested in supporting. If we know the answer, and
    it does not seem to conflict with our own interests, we'll probably try
    to answer it.
    
    Support thru notes is on a time-available basis... formal support needs
    to be worked thru IPMT's for Digital products, and 3rd party vendors
    for their products. 
    
    This one belongs to U.S. Design, not Digital.
    
    Chris