[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

384.0. "Radio Stations" by OTOOA::ESKICIOGLU (My other piano is a Steinway) Wed Mar 24 1993 17:25

    
    I did not want to clutter the Guns and Roses note, NTTIAWWT ;-)
    
    I would like to compile a list of decent rock stations of North
    America. Please post your favourites. Being a frequent flyer,
    I'd like to know which waves to look for while on business trips
    or vacations.
    
    Peter, when I asked "what is better than WBCN ?", I was serious, as in
    "what would you recommend ?".
    
    I am not from Mass., so I don't know the names of the DJs on WBCN. I
    don't pay too much attention to what they say either. I listen to WBCN
    because they play a good variety of classical rock. I listen to the
    radio while driving or while in my hotel room, it is much more
    convenient than my discman, although that too is an inevitable travel
    companion. Also, ever since I found a miki mouse in my room at Westin,
    I acquired the habit of leaving the radio on all night long.
    
    In Colorado Springs I loved listening to KKFM 98.1 Classical Rock
    station.
    
    In California I was listening to 95.5 KLOS (SoCals Home Of Rock'n
    Roll). I couldn't listen to this station as much as I wanted to though,
    my friend was *serious* about exposing me to heavy metal and hard rock.
    And I thought I'd never like it ;-)
    
    I would also like to find out the best rock station in Atlanta, I see a
    trip for myself to Atlanta in near future.
    
    Thanks
    
    Lale
    
    ps: If you come to Ottawa, look for 54 ROCK (am) or CHEZ 106 (fm) or
    better yet, give me a call.
    
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
384.1D.C.WBC::DEADY"...that's as green as it gets..."Wed Mar 24 1993 19:126
    
    WHFS	99.1	Washington D.C.  Modern Rock
    WCXR	105.9   Washington D.C.  Classic Rock
    
    
    			fred deady
384.2Buy I listen to tapes most of the time...BOVES::FENNELLBack to the LightWed Mar 24 1993 20:028
My car's stations for Boston area:

93.7  WCGY  Lawrence?
94.1  WHJY  Providence RI
95.5  WBRU  Brown University Providence
100.7 WZLX  Boston
104.1 WBCN  Boston
107.3 WAAF  Boston (Worcester)
384.3SeattleDECWET::MARIERWed Mar 24 1993 22:529
93.3	KUBE		Top 40
96.5	KXRX		A.O.R.
99.9	KISW		A.O.R.
101.5	KPLZ		Top 40
102.5	KZOK		Classic Rock
107.7	KNDD (The End)	Alternitive Rock

My personal favorite is KNDD, a good selction of current hits and some of the
best music from the late 70's to the present.
384.4Boston/ProvidenceSVCRUS::MCNAMARAstrange visitor.....Thu Mar 25 1993 10:589
                         Boston/Providence
    
    WFNX        101.7    Semi-Alternative
    WBRU         95.5    REAL-Alternative
    
    'BCN s*cks...but it's all I get at work.....
    
    mac
    
384.5WBOSAKOCOA::CHENARDThu Mar 25 1993 14:1316
    Boston - 92.9 WBOS
    
    It's not really soft rock but quieter rock:
    
    Eric Clapton
    Bonnie Raitt
    Indigo Girls
    Billy Joel
    Robbie Robertson
    The Band
    Etc.  
    
    It's a nice change sometimes
    
    Mo
    
384.6my stationsCSLALL::WEWINGThu Mar 25 1993 14:1812
    my main  buttons on the car radio are
    
    wbcn	104.1	rock
    wzlx        100.7	classic rock
    wods	103.3	oldies
    wbos	92.9	soft rock
    wfnx	101.7	alternative rock
    
    beyond that i have all of the local (boston) college stations
    programmed (i get 18 fm presets).
    
    
384.7BostonBUSY::ESCOBARAre You Gonna Go My Way?Thu Mar 25 1993 14:554
    
    107.3 WAAF 
    
    
384.8A couple from NHCUPMK::T_THEOWhat do you know for sure?Thu Mar 25 1993 18:308
    
    WZOU  101.1  Manchester
    W???  106.0  Nashua
    
    Is WCGY 94.5 Boston still around?
    
    Another_one_who_listens_to_tape_on_the_commute_disc_at_home_and_office.
    
384.9CUPMK::T_THEOWhat do you know for sure?Thu Mar 25 1993 18:323
    
    And what about 93.7... or was that CGY?
    
384.10BUSY::ESCOBARAre You Gonna Go My Way?Thu Mar 25 1993 18:425
    93.7 is CGY
    
    94.5 is ZOU
    
    
384.11WGIR in Manchester, NH 101.1DREGS::BLICKSTEINMy name is Victoria WintersThu Mar 25 1993 18:476
    Another NH station (my favorite):  WGIR 101.1
    
    On the weekends they play blocks of songs by a particular artist
    (like 2 to 4 songs by the same artist in a row).
    
    
384.12simi-:')SLOHAN::FIELDSand we'd go Running On FaithThu Mar 25 1993 19:3625
>================================================================================
>Note 384.6                       Radio Stations                          6 of 11
>CSLALL::WEWING                                       12 lines  25-MAR-1993 11:18
>                                -< my stations >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    my main  buttons on the car radio are
>    
>    wbcn	104.1	rock
>    wzlx        100.7	classic rock
>    wods	103.3	oldies
>    wbos	92.9	soft rock
>    wfnx	101.7	alternative rock
>    
>    beyond that i have all of the local (boston) college stations
>    programmed (i get 18 fm presets).

    
    not much different from mine except I have that classic music station
    at 102.5....really ! on a bad traffic day its very soothing....
    it replaces Wfnx on your list :'o 
    
    
    hey Im not joking ! that Bach guy wrote some danm hot tunes !
    
    Chris
384.13CSC32::B_KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeThu Mar 25 1993 20:2115
    RE: .11
    
    Gotta agree with Dave on this one ... WGIR is/was (for my tastes) one of
    the better stations in New England. It's out of Manchester, NH and was
    the only station that came in (and was worth listening to) once out
    of the northern range of 'BCN. Although, I used to complain about the
    sad state of radio in the Boston area over the past decade; now that I 
    live in the wilds of Colorado, I look back on those days with a certain 
    nostalgia. Radio in Colorado Springs S*CKS big ones!!!!!!!!!! 
    Stations stick within their very narrowly defined genre and never 
    deviate. If you want variety, you've got to keep that button-pushin'
    finger in good shape (which has beneficial side-affects ;^)
    
    /Billy_K
    
384.14New York AreaSUBWAY::BRENNAgravitationally challangedFri Mar 26 1993 13:307
    
    NYC
    
    WNEW  102.7
    WXRK   92.3
    
    WSOU  88.? (Seton Hall Univ. Pirate Radio)
384.15Even Stuttgart doesn't wrap up before midnightKAOSWS::ESKICIOGLUEver heard of Lale Andersen ?Fri Mar 26 1993 15:4619
    
    If I lived in Colorado Springs, the first thing I would complain
    about would be the town's night beat, or the lack of it rather.
    The whole town goes to bed around 8-9 pm.
    
    There was this decent looking restaurant on Academy, I think it was
    called Mirage, one night we pushed it's door at 9:05 pm, and they told
    us that they were closed.
    
    One Monday night I went to Old Colorado and I was scared and it was not
    even 8 pm, it was so dark and empty, even the diners were closed.
    
    I never had anything to do after 9 pm (that is when the shops close).
    
    Boulder, on the other hand is a very lively town, I guess because of
    the University. The pedestrian area is packed full of people, walking,
    making music, all the restaurants were full and open till late.
    
    Lale
384.16Hey, move hereGJO001::REITERFri Mar 26 1993 17:0236
    There's an outstanding FM stereo station here in, of all places, Grand
    Rapids, Michigan.

    From 7am to midnight they play nothing but music --- "eclectic" music. 
    NO commercials, NO weather, NO sports, NO news, occasionally a few
    community service spots and local events announcements, and a little DJ
    chatter. 

    It's listener-sponsored and also receives money through the same
    mechanism that funds the local access cable TV stations, but it is
    (thankfully) NOT part of the PBS public radio network.  I'm not sure of
    the signal strength, but it only covers the county.  

    The DJs (or "programmers" as they call themselves) are all volunteers
    who do 3 hour shifts by themselves with no other staff.  They operate
    out of the adult-ed center in a neighboring town.  There is a full-time
    station manager.

    The music range includes jazz, folk, folk rock, acoustic and electric
    blues, reggae, world beat, local talent, progressive... if you are not
    fond of a particular artist or style, just wait 5 minutes and
    something completely different will be on.

    I can't really explain how it differs from a really good college
    station; maybe that's the best analogy.  But rather than separate
    shows for each style of music (like WERS-FM) this is one 17-hour show
    mixing MANY styles, with some VERY listenable music, and exposure to
    some other stuff that might "grow" on you. 

    Now they are having a Spring Concert Series every other Thursday night
    to raise funds for larger facilities and better equipment.  Last night
    they brought in the Holmes Brothers.  Upcoming are Carrie Newcomer,
    Trova, Christine Lavin, and Peter Ostrushko & Dean McGraw.
    
    What a great radio station!   	WYCE-FM 88.1 Wyoming, Michigan
    \Gary
384.17Some more Boston/NH stationsCSLALL::MKEAVENEYFri Mar 26 1993 17:307
    
    
    
    100.3 WHEB (Portsmouth, NH)
    102.9 WBLM (Portland, Maine)
    
    BLM only comes in once you're near the Hampton Beach area.
384.18NYEM1::TURNOFGreetings from the Big AppleMon Mar 29 1993 20:3316
    In metro NY, a few of the former WNEW-FM jocks (Curt Chaplin & Jim
    Buff) have moved over to WNWK-FM, 105.9 for a morning show (6AM-9AM) 
    featuring mainly new and unsigned bands.  They also play some older
    stuff (very little), but not the cuts you're used to hearing.
    
    There was a feature article about them in New York Magazine about a
    month ago.  They talked about the fact that WNEW is totally dinosaured
    (IMO - I agree) and unwillingly to feature bands that don't fit there
    classic rock mold.
    
    Check them out it's very interesting and it beats listening to Richard
    Neer rant and rave.  I can't stand what NEW has become and I feel their
    is an alternative to them.  It's nice to be exposed to a breath of
    fresh air!!
    
    Fredda
384.19THEBAY::CHABANEDSBS is a crime against mankindMon Mar 29 1993 22:1410
    
    
    Is Scott Muny still at WNEW?  Talk about a dinosaur.  This guy actually 
    thought people liked to hear about how he would go and have tea at the 
    Dakota with Yoko.  YUCK!!
    
    Funny, WNEW was pretty progressive in the early 80's.  
    
    -Ed
    
384.20No one's mentioned WDRE, 92.7 (NY/CT)MRKTNG::GOLDMANWith hope, good morningTue Mar 30 1993 11:308
    	Another NY area station is 92.7, WDRE.  The station is from
    Long Island, I believe - it comes in in Southern Connecticut
    pretty well (south of Bridgeport).

    	Alternative, progressive rock - good mix. Sorta FNXish, only
    better!

    	amy
384.21NYEM1::TURNOFGreetings from the Big AppleTue Mar 30 1993 13:126
    Yes, Scott Muni is still going at WNEW every afternoon and yes he's
    still a dinosaur and yes he still thinks name dropping thrills the
    audience and yes NEW was a progressive station in the late 60's, early
    70's.
    
    Fredda
384.22most Dj's talk too much!NEMAIL::CARROLLJThe Bright-Eyed BoyTue Mar 30 1993 16:0711
    my presets - Boston/N. Boston area
    
    101.7  wfnx - alternative, kinda
    95.5 - alternative
    and occasionally . .
    
    103.3 - oldies
    104.1 - wbcn - for traffic reports only ( annoying DJ's )
    
    					-jimbo
    
384.23RF ALTERNATIVESSUBSYS::GODINWed Apr 07 1993 13:2913
    WMMR in Philly used to be similar to WAAF
    WSHE 103.? in South Florida is the only thing worth listening to,
     mostly pop rock.
    W%%% 88.1 is the best of the Boston area college stations. They have
     hard core alternative stuff & a show called "Lost & Found" where you
     can hear such gems as "Hot Smoke & Sassafrass" by The Bubble Puppy.
     They also do jazz &/or classical during the afternoon commute.
    WZBC 1550 AM ! in addition to their FM 89.?, will play decent
     alternative stuff also.
    There's a weak station out of Waltham (Brandeis ?) @ 101.? that WGIR
     101.1 Manchester overpowers almost everywhere, but if you send them a
     tape, they'll play it. Now *that's* "alternative".  
          
384.24Bosstown radioCSLALL::WEWINGWed Apr 07 1993 18:1112
    i think 88.1 is MIT's station, WMBR.  They used to be WTBS
    but Ted Turner wanted the call letters so he bought them
    a new transmitter in exchange for the call letters.  I guess
    WMBR stands for MIT Broadcast Radio.
    	            -   -         -
    MBR plays ALL types of music, so it really depends on when you tune in.
    
    WZBC, I think, is Boston College, but I don't think it is as low
    as 89.x.
    WMFO is the Tufts station.
    
    
384.25Walker Memorial Basement RadioUSABLE::GOODMichael GoodThu Apr 08 1993 17:007
    Re .24 and  "I guess WMBR stands for MIT Broadcast Radio":
    
    Well, a reasonable guess, but incorrect.  WMBR studios are located in
    the basement of the Walker Memorial building at MIT, and the call
    letters stand for Walker Memorial Basement Radio.  Of course you can
    fit more sayings to the call letters, but that was the "official" one
    when they changed over.
384.26Boston Radio ShakeupTECRUS::ROSTI need air freshener under the drumsTue May 11 1993 15:0711
    Shakeups in the Boston radio market:
    
    WCDJ 96.9 has dropped "smooth jazz" in favor of country music.  Forget
    the new call letters. By the way, as a hype, they are running with *no
    commercials* until July 4th.
    
    WZOU 94.? is no longer the "Zoo" and is a adopting a "Generation X"
    format, which means top 40 with a slant towards newer artists (and say
    goodbye to Elton John, etc).
    
    							Brian
384.27LEDS::BURATIWhat's that...Hawaiian noises...Tue May 11 1993 17:0112
>    WCDJ 96.9 has dropped "smooth jazz" in favor of country music.  Forget

    WCDJ was bought by the 106.7 people and for a few days broadcast the
    same signal on both frequencies while "they moved the studios".

    Can't say I'll miss the "smooth jazz" format. I was for the most part,
    very whimpy stuff. Kenny G, Michael Franks, and oh-so-many hookless
    numbers featuring nylon-string-guitar-over-an-overproduced-backdrop-of-
    lush-synths-with-too-much-reverb-and-the-all-too-obvious-digital-drums-
    and-percussion-replete-with-triangle, i.e. MIDI overkill.

    rjb
384.28LUNER::KELLYJsubmit to BarneyTue May 11 1993 19:091
    96.9 :== WBCS ( Boston Country Station )
384.29Singin' the Blues!MAGEE::ZANELLAFire and Water in notes scandal?Wed May 12 1993 16:415
    re:27
    
    	Well, I for one will miss the "Smooth Jazz"...Maybe it was mellow,
    	but makes for great background music.   Quite a change from Jazz 
    	to Country...ouch!!! 
384.30THEBAY::CHABANEDSBS is a crime against mankindWed May 12 1993 17:4710
    
    
    What does this say about the demographics of the Boston area?  Fewer
    Bimmers and more pick-ups I'd imagine 
    
    Hmmm... We had YUPPIES now we have Old Downscale Rural Bluecollars.
    
    ;-)
    
    
384.31JUPITR::DERRICOJDefy The Laws Of TraditionSun May 16 1993 06:097
- May our college stations remain the only saving constant!




Sub Dude
384.32Kool FMPOLAR::DAYEVERYBODY SHAKE YOUR BODY DO THE BARTMANMon Jun 28 1993 07:089
    Lale,
    
    
            Lets not forget the all new Kool FM, which plays classic rock,
    easy listening, and you name it, (not as much heavy metal). On 93.9 FM.
    
    
    Rose..
    
384.33prizes for the farthest away listenerOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUI'm exhausted from lovin so wellWed Aug 11 1993 15:119
    
    If you live in Northern Vermont or Newyork or anywhere close Eastern
    Ontario, try if you can tune into CHEZ FM 106.1. 
    
    They are looking for the listener who lives farthest away to give away
    prizes. If you can get CHEZ 106.1 then give them a call tomorrow
    morning before 8:30-9:00 am at 613-560-1061.
    
    I am Kate Thompson and I live here
384.34Phoenix, Arizona16598::WAGNERTuned to music no one can hear...Sun Sep 26 1993 07:4716
    
    If you're still looking for stations, my area hasn't been touch on yet:
    
     93.3 fm        KDKB    New Rock and Great Classic Rock
     97.9(98) fm    KUPD    New Rock and some Classic Rock
    100.7 fm        KSLX    Classic Rock (Boasts the largest music
                            collection in the state. They played an A to Z
                            of their music repository about a month ago,
                            just the BIG HITS off each CD, going 24 hours a
                            day and it took 9 days to get through it.)
    
    102.? fm        KNIX    Arizona's BEST Country (According to them)
    
    -=Dave=-
    
    
384.35MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Mon Sep 27 1993 10:487
    >...took 9 days to get thru it
    
    Lesse, 60 minutes per hour times 24 hours times 9 days divided by an 
    average of 4 minutes per song equals 3240 songs minus time for
    commercials, station IDs, etc...
    
    Edd
384.36Give the answer in inches!16598::WAGNERTuned to music no one can hear...Mon Sep 27 1993 11:4419
  <<< Note 384.35 by MANTHN::EDD "Look out fellas, it's shredding time..." >>>

    }}>...took 9 days to get thru it
    
    }}Lesse, 60 minutes per hour times 24 hours times 9 days divided by an 
    }}average of 4 minutes per song equals 3240 songs minus time for
    }}commercials, station IDs, etc...
    
    }}Edd
    
    
    GEE Edd!!  You didn't do the second part of the math problem!  Since
    the songs were being played from A to Z, you didn't state how many in
    A, how many in B, etc. etc. etc.......;*)
    
    
    -=Dave=-
    
    
384.37MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Mon Sep 27 1993 11:477
    Oh dopey me!!!
    
    ...'sides, the "I"s had an unfair advantage with Inna Gagga Da Vida...
    
    :^)
    
    Edd
384.38Just being fair16598::WAGNERTuned to music no one can hear...Mon Sep 27 1993 11:589
    
    }}...'sides, the "I"s had an unfair advantage with Inna Gagga Da Vida...
    
    	Yeah, you're right.  Just give the answer in feet instead of
    inches, that should make up for it........8*)
    
    -=Dave=-
    
    
384.39MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Mon Sep 27 1993 12:027
    Alphabetical by artist, yes?
    
    Actually, this wouldn't be that hard to do. I've got plenty of
    reference books at home that would give a faily accurate distribution
    of names across the alphabet...
    
    Edd
384.4016598::WAGNERTuned to music no one can hear...Mon Sep 27 1993 12:2613
    
    }}Alphabetical by artist, yes?
    
    BEEEEEEP!!!  Sorry, wrong!  Alphabetical by song.  
    
    A few time they would even play an original tune and then 1 or 2
    remakes right with it. It was a real good way to get sick of some songs
    in a hurry!!
    
    -=Dave=-
    
    
    
384.41OTOOA::ESKICIOGLURadio, someone still loves you.Wed Dec 08 1993 14:2520
    
    Amongst the ones I got a chance to try, I have always liked the US
    radio stations much more than the Canadian ones. Or at least the
    ones I get here in Ottawa.
    
    I somehow find the DJ in US stations smarter and funnier. They are
    informative and witty. I find music to be much better than my radio
    station here in Ottawa.
    
    First of all, 1 dj is always better than 2. When there is two of them
    then they start making insider jokes and spend a lot of time laughing
    and amusing themselves. I always feel that they are entertaining one
    another instead of entertaining the listener.
    
    I have sampled a few classical rock stations in US and they were always
    much more fun to listen to. Better music and useful information.
    
    Should I have put this note under "bashing"?
    
    Lale
384.42CKxxWBC::DEADYeverything's fine... just fine...Wed Dec 08 1993 17:206
    I recently visited family & friends back in Michigan and found a
    great station from Windsor, Canada. I think it was around 88.9~ 89.2
    and was alternative in format. I forget the call letters, and also
    miss the station, too bad I can't get it from Wasington D.C. :(.
    
    fred deady
384.43.42 sounds like a college stationCSLALL::WEWINGWed Dec 08 1993 18:386
    this is a question and a statement.
    
    in general, aren't the lower FM numbers on the dial reserved for
    college stations, public service radio, and the like?
    
    blind willis
384.44Does NPR Mean "National Pinko Radio"?TECRUS::ROSTFretting less, enjoying it moreWed Dec 08 1993 19:2311
    In the US, stations below 92 on the dial are non-profit.  There are
    some (but not many) non-profits  *above* 92, like WHRB which belongs 
    to Harvard, or small "repeater" stations that cover areas which are
    blocked from a station's primary signal.
    
    I have no idea what types of restrictions (if any) exist in other
    countries.  Heck, in many countries, the only radio is run by the
    government...not a really happy situation when listening to the news,
    eh?
    
    							Brian
384.45 I don't know if they're still doing thatEZ2GET::STEWARTalways took candy from strangersWed Dec 08 1993 22:148
    
    Are you sure about that >92 mHz = no profit thing, Brian?  One of our
    best stations here is a 91.1 and they're definitely making money.  But
    now that I think about it, technically, it's a Mexican station...the
    studios are in San Diego but the transmitter is over the border.  I
    think they're allowed to pump more power by Mexican rules; you can hear
    91X up in LA (150 miles away).
    
384.46sounds like wolfman jackCSLALL::WEWINGThu Dec 09 1993 13:3510
    in thet sixties you could pick up a radio station that
    had studios in del rio, texas and transmitters in mexico.
    you could pick up this station all over the western half
    of the u.s.  this station is the one that gave wolfman jack
    his 'national' following.  can't think of the call letters.
    
    the reasoning in the prior memo talking about mexico pumping more
    power triggered the memory.
    
    blind willis
384.47 lost my train EZ2GET::STEWARTalways took candy from strangersThu Dec 09 1993 13:4911
    
    
    Yeah, but that was AM.  With the skip at night I could pick up WLS,
    CKLW and WABC (back in the just-post-boss radio period) in a nowhere
    Ohio town.  With 91X we're talking high-frequency chromosome-altering
    gene-splitting mutation-generating type line-of-sight EM radiation.  I
    hear the flourescents in the transmitter shack don't even have wires
    running to them!
    
    Now, what was the topic again?
    
384.48Or is it just me?OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUThe other lane is moving fasterThu Dec 16 1993 15:1514
    
    Do you guys do this: You park your car, the radio is playing a tune
    you like. You want to hear more of the song, so in order to delay
    turning of the ignition, you first open the door. You are still
    listening to the song. Something happens there. You get out, push
    the "lock" key on the door and shut the door. The car is still running,
    your favourite song is still playing, the keys are still in and all
    the doors are locked.
    
    Is this a common practice with homosapiens?
    
    Lale
    
    
384.49the power of music . . .NEMAIL::CARROLLJaka Dr. Emilio LazardoThu Dec 16 1993 15:317
    
    Well, I've never gone so far as lock the keys in the car . . . yet, but
    I know I'll sit there, in the middle of the driveway or a parking lot
    or whatever to hear the rest of a song, especially if it's one I hadn't
    heard in quite a while . . .
    
    					- Jim
384.5098u3hcf8hc9hWBC::DEADYeverything's fine... just fine...Thu Dec 16 1993 16:056
    I've not locked the keys in my car, however, I have left the radio
    volume on very loud - and gotten quite an earfull when I restarted
    my car to go home.
    
    	fred deady  [0^0] 
                       
384.51 couldn't resist! EZ2GET::STEWARTalways took candy from strangersThu Dec 16 1993 16:4212
    
    I have to sit in the car for a minute after I get where I'm going to
    let the turbine bearings cool down anyway, so I do spend a bit of time
    listening to the CD player and watching the seconds tick by...  but
    locking the keys in the car?  I guy I used to work with did this
    once...  
    
    
    his family was trapped in there for hours!
    
    <insert rimshot here>
    
384.52and the time when I used regular detergent in dishwasherOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUThe other lane is moving fasterThu Dec 16 1993 17:3129
    
    OK, I am dim today. John, I usually admire your ability of saying
    so much with so few words, but not today. I didn't get your story.
    How was his family trapped in "there" for hours?
    
    And what is rimshot?
    
    Fred, my car stereo is equipped with that feature which resets the
    volume back to a medium level every time you turn it off. So, even if
    you leave your car with radio blasting with a high volume, next time
    you start it, you don't get an audio shock.
    
    I have locked the keys in the car four times so far and two of those,
    exactly the way I described, just to be able to hear the song a couple
    more seconds. Once out of those four cases, I actually had the plastic
    key (which only works for a couple of times) with me and didn't need to
    call my husband.
    
    And don't insist, I am not going to tell you about the time when I
    did not forget to put the coffee, did not forget to put the water, did
    not forget to turn the coffee machine on but forgot to place the coffee
    pot under the filter. I am not going to tell you how I found coffee
    running on the counter, down the cupboards and on the floor when I came
    back to the kitchen.
    
    ;-)
    
    Lale
    
384.53Me too!TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPThu Dec 16 1993 17:5613
re: .48

Aha!  So it happens to somebody else besides me!

Actually, it doesn't have to be the radio to get me locked out.
Anytime that I turn off the ignition and don't *immediately* remove
the key (perhaps I was looking in my wallet to see if a credit card
I needed was in it) I'm in danger of locking myself out of the car.

After you do it a few times you develop the ability to remain
remarkably calm throught the whole mess. :-)

-Hal
384.54MANTHN::EDDBusted, down in New Orleans...Thu Dec 16 1993 18:003
    So, who keeps their lock de-icer in the glove compartment?
    
    Edd
384.55Is that your IQ or your hat size?CSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith &amp; Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Dec 16 1993 18:206
Didja hear about the (insert your favorite ethnic group here) that locked 
his wife and kids in the car?

Took the fire department hours to get them out.


384.57bring back old memories John?IVOS02::NEWELL_JOGraphically YoursThu Dec 16 1993 19:0413
    >Then there was the time that I went to the stereo store and I bought a
    >blank tape.  Came home, put it on my stereo, turned it up full blast.
    >A few minutes later, there's a knock on my door.  It was a neighbor
    >complaining.  Turn out he's a mime.  
    
    Sounds like a Steven Wright witticism.
    
    
    "I put instant coffee into the microwave and almost went back in time"
    
    							  - Steven Wright
    		
    Jodi-
384.58BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughThu Dec 16 1993 21:558
    
    	I've been saying this for years now ...
    
    	When leaving your car, ALWAYS lock the door with they key, and
    	it will be impossible to lock the keys in the car.
    
    
    							GTI
384.59ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumFri Dec 17 1993 10:526
    My car is idiot proof when it comes to locking the keys in the car.
    One cannot lock the drivers door from outside the car without the
    key. ;-)
    
    Jim C.
    
384.60Autopilots do too much of my remembering...MSBCS::ASHFORTHFri Dec 17 1993 12:3714
I too have a problem with my "autopilot" mode; if I break my routine once I've
reached my destination, all bets are off WRT the keys. The two most common are
Lale's "gotta hear that song title/artist/news story" syndrome and "let's talk
about this before we get outta the car."

My solution has been to fight fire with fire, i.e. teach the autopilot to
correct its own mistake. After the last time I locked myself out of a vehicle
(I'd estimate more than five years ago), I made it a strict practice to *HAVE
THE KEYS IN MY HAND* when locking the door. This is a tad faster than locking
the doors from the outside with the key, but serves the same purpose. Now, my
autopilot tells me something is wrong if I ever *try* to lock the keys with an
empty hand!

Bob
384.61Idiots on door-patrolAIMHI::KERRLivin Life By The DropFri Dec 17 1993 12:4018
    
    .-1
    
    However, some of us (no names mentioned) have so-called idiot-proof cars
    and still manage to lock themselves out.  This can be accomplished by
    locking the driver's side door with the key, beginning to walk away,
    remembering that you left something in the glove compartment, opening up the
    passenger side door with the key, laying the key on the driver's seat
    while getting the document out of the glove comparment, then locking
    and closing the passenger door with the shinny keys laughing at you
    from the driver's seat.  Believe me, build an idiot-proof locking system, 
    and we'll build a better idiot.
    
    Al_who_has_never_ever_locked_himself_out_of_his_car
    
    
    
    
384.62 take my wife, please EZ2GET::STEWARTalways took candy from strangersFri Dec 17 1993 13:3610
    
    Lale, the rimshot is a trademark of vaudville-type comedy...the rimshot
    is delivered immediately after the punch line -- helps the audience
    to know when to laugh...  As a later reply pointed out, this alleged
    "joke" started out as one of those ethnically derogative things, but I
    don't do that kind of stuff so I modified it...  I guess I could have
    said that it was a Field Service guy, but then how many people remember
    Field Service?
    
    
384.63obligatory rimshot :-)NEMAIL::CARROLLJaka Dr. Emilio LazardoFri Dec 17 1993 13:598
   > I guess I could have
   > said that it was a Field Service guy, but then how many people remember
   > Field Service?
    
    	Ba Dum THUMP!
    
    				:-)     - Jim
    
384.64maybe one day.......NAVY5::SDANDREAIf mistakes were dollars....Fri Dec 17 1993 15:129
    Jeez,
    
    you have cars with turbo drive bearings that need cooling and radios
    that adjust themselves *after* you leave the car?  What did I do wrong? 
    Must be the 4 kids.......(that I wouldn't trade for anything)  
    
    dawgy_daddy
    
    :*}
384.65you guys lock your cars ?SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewFri Dec 17 1993 15:279
    I never lock my car ! and the times that I have locked the car its been
    broken into ! so I don't do that anymore, it must fake the crooks out
    when they find it un-locked ! and no-one would steel the car, its a 77
    chevy living room on wheels ! and it doubles as a trash bucket :')
    
    I've hot wired the tape deck so I have to turn it off even when the car
    is not running.....
    
    Chris
384.66i'm done it more than onceCSLALL::WEWINGFri Dec 17 1993 15:5328
    my honda claims in the owners manual that you can't
    lock the driver door from the outside without the key.
    well, i had the car 20 seconds before i figured out
    that you hold the door handle opena and lock the
    car.
    i locked my cars in the car once in vermont with the radio
    on.  i had pulled into the hotel parking lot and decided
    to clean the windows.  got out the windex and towels
    and cleaned.  when done i got out and close/locked the
    door.  (you always realize you screwed up when the
    door is 1/2 inch from closing).  since there were 10
    of us i didn't need my car. i had my roommate mail me
    a spare key.  since then i always carry a spare in my
    wallet.  two weeks later, i dropped my keys down a
    sewer grate, but because of my vermont caper, i had
    a spare key in my wallet.  now, i often leave my wallet
    in the car.  was at newport in rhode island when i
    got in my car for a minute to perform some manual task ;-)
    had the radio on.  yep, got out and left the radio and
    the keys in the car.  i have one of those tilt up sunroofs
    and figured out that three hands can open the car from
    the outside by taking the sunroof off.  impossible for one
    person to do, tough for two, but doable for three.
    then i locked my keys in my car (sunroof tilted).  this
    time we took a golf ball retriever, reached through the
    tilted sunroof, and opened it.
    
    the late, great blind willis
384.67CUPMK::T_THEOLook Twice, Save a LifeFri Dec 17 1993 16:037
    
    With regard to realizing you've screwed up an instant before it 
    happens...  I once saw it described in computer lingo as the
    "ohnosecond", which is the measure of time between hitting return
    and realizing you've made a terrible mistake. 8)
    
    Tim
384.68MANTHN::EDDBusted, down in New Orleans...Fri Dec 17 1993 16:074
    The odd thing is that the process happens in reverse; you realize
    you've made a mistake one ohnosecond *before* you hit <RETURN>...
    
    Edd
384.69LEDS::BURATIboss buratoFri Dec 17 1993 16:224
    Hey, late, great blind willis, we're going to miss your notes. Good luck
    to you, OK?

    --Ron
384.70TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPFri Dec 17 1993 16:4631
re: .60

>I too have a problem with my "autopilot" mode; if I break my routine once I've
>reached my destination, all bets are off WRT the keys. The two most common are
>Lale's "gotta hear that song title/artist/news story" syndrome and "let's talk
>about this before we get outta the car."
>
>My solution has been to fight fire with fire, i.e. teach the autopilot to
>correct its own mistake. After the last time I locked myself out of a vehicle
>(I'd estimate more than five years ago), I made it a strict practice to *HAVE
>THE KEYS IN MY HAND* when locking the door. This is a tad faster than locking
>the doors from the outside with the key, but serves the same purpose. Now, my
>autopilot tells me something is wrong if I ever *try* to lock the keys with an
>empty hand!

I already do that with some things.  I *never* close the hatchback without
checking to see if my keys are in my pocket.  And at home I *never* take
my keys out of my pocket unless I'm putting them in their designated spot
on the dresser.  Guess I need to develop a habit around closing the main
car door as well.

Last time I locked my keys in my car I was too far from home to call anyone
for help.  I was in the parking lot of a music store in another city.
When I realized what I'd done I became full of that calm relaxed feeling
that can only be learned by repeated bone-head stunts.  I shrugged my
shoulders, went into the store, made my purchases, and calmly asked them
to call me a locksmith.  Cost me $50 (ouch!).  What was *really* scary,
though, was it only took the locksmith about 10 seconds to open my car
with a piece of bent wire!

-Hal
384.71BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughFri Dec 17 1993 16:5015
    
    	My sister called last night at about 9:00 and asked "What are you
    	doing tonight?".  I thought that was a strange question, since she
    	had been out shopping for most of the day and probably wasn't in	
    	the mood for much more.  She continued, "You're going to kill me.
    	I locked my keys in my car".
    
    	I don't believe it.  If this discussion hadn't started yesterday,
    	that might not have happened.  8^)
    
    	[And luckily, my father said he'd go and give her the spare so she
    	could get into the car, and I got to go to bed at a reasonable
    	time.]
    
    							GTI
384.72RANGER::WESTERVELTFri Dec 17 1993 16:573
    This is easily the most fascinating rat-hole I've ever read.

384.73RANGER::WESTERVELTFri Dec 17 1993 17:034
>    	the mood for much more.  She continued, "You're going to kill me.
>    	I locked my keys in my car".

    Was she listening to a song at the time?	:-)
384.74I laughed hardOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUThe other lane is moving fasterFri Dec 17 1993 18:3824
    
    The pearls in this string:
    
	. Believe me, build an idiot-proof locking system, 
          and we'll build a better idiot.
    
	. I guess I could have said that it was a Field Service guy, 
    	  but then how many people remember Field Service?
    
	. you guys lock your cars ?
    
    	. you always realize you screwed up when the
          door is 1/2 inch from closing
    
        . ohnosecond
        
    	. If this discussion hadn't started yesterday,
    	  that might not have happened.  8^)
    
	. This is easily the most fascinating rat-hole I've ever read.
    
    Ever considered standup comedy for a career?
    
    Lale
384.75BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Jan 23 1995 20:4816
    
    	I happened to re-discover this note, and I'd forgotten how
    	good some of this stuff is.  8^)
    
    	Anyways, WAAF seems to be a complete waste of time.  Now
    	Liz Wilde is requesting Rose Kennedy eulogies, with the
    	best one winning the new Van Halen album or something like
    	that.
    
    	It's sad to think that WAAF would lose a bunch of listeners
    	if she were fired, but I wouldn't be one of them.  Heck, I
    	might even listen more.
    
    							GTI
    
    
384.76re: WAAF,radio & MTV...WONDER::BOISSEWed Feb 08 1995 15:4824

  I really wish there were more rock stations (and I don't mean that "soft"
  crap), or ANY rock stations, for that matter, that didn't cater to the
  younger set. Because, unfortunately, that's who's listening to, and 
  ENJOYING (hard for me to believe), the likes of Liz Wilde, Hillman, etc.
  And when they're not talking their fool heads off, or playing the same
  songs over and over again, the infantile advertisements you have to put up
  with force you to move to something like WCRB (Boston) classical radio. At
  least there they play music probably 90% of the time.

  Wouldn't a rock radio station that just played MUSIC, with little or no
  DJ interference, at least, (I know it's too much to ask to cut down on
  the advertisments), wouldn't a station like that just fly? Wouldn't it
  become a big hit? I've often thought the same thing about MTV: cut out
  all the crap, show just videos, or other musical venues (concerts, etc),
  and only cut in every 20 minutes or so with commercials. Feature all
  kinds of music, not just popular, rock or rap.

  Anybody want to start a new trend? I'll invest...

  Bob

  
384.77CSLALL::PLEVINEWed Feb 08 1995 16:144
    Bob...try the left hand side of your radio. Some wonderful stuff
    over there.
    Yes, commercial radio is a drag. Support college radio.
    Peter
384.78NITMOI::LEMAIREWed Feb 08 1995 20:5621
    Re: 2 back
    
    I don't get it either. There used to be a fabulous radio station
    out of Peterborough NH - WMDK - 92.1FM.  They played a great mix
    of old, new, rock, a little folk, a little jazz, a little
    country. You might not like every song they played but it was
    never boring and you could actually get turned on to good stuff
    (What a concept!). The announcers spoke like adults. (Not like
    those soft rock zombies on 'BOS). Great station.
    
    It went off the air around 90 or 91 - now Michael Bolton and
    old Supremes hits live there.  I called and wrote and complained -
    they said the old format couldn't generate enough advertising revenue. 
    Everyone I knew who was in range of the station LOVED it. I just
    don't get it.  I don't know why quality radio can't survive in
    the Boston market.  
    
    BTW - if you are ever on the Cape or Islands - try WMVY - I forget
    the frequency - around 95 or 96 I think.  Cool station.
    
    Louise 
384.79BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Feb 08 1995 21:158
    
    >try the left hand side of your radio. Some wonderful stuff
    
    
    	Good idea ... that's where the "off" switch is on my radio.
    
    	8^)
    
384.80WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Feb 09 1995 00:0314
    
    College Radio just play a less popular Top 40, but the play lists
    don't appear any larger to me.
    
    When the college stations do the soul, blues, and gospel shifts, that's
    when they peak, but as rock stations, seems like the same repetitiveness 
    with different tunes.  
    
    Where's the stations that just put on some new album by whoever and
    say, uh, let's try track 7 this time and see what we hear.  I promise
    I'd listen!!!!  :^)
    
    - Sean
    
384.81Gone but not forgotten.MKOTS3::KERRHell has our URLThu Feb 09 1995 11:4910
    .78
    
    I used to listen to WMDK all the time, and I live in Nashua.  I knew a
    lot of others who listened to it as well.  I really can't believe that
    the new managers get more listeners with the crap that's in that spot now,
    I took it off the memory select on my radio.
    
    But, it was a great station in the old days, interesting mix of music.
                                                                          
    
384.82the buck talksWONDER::BOISSEThu Feb 09 1995 12:0328
    
 >> Where's the stations that just put on some new album by whoever and
 >> say, uh, let's try track 7 this time and see what we hear.  I promise
 >> I'd listen!!!!  :^)

  You, me, and probably a good percentage of listeners. So why isn't it
  done? It's got to be $$$$$.

  I heard a few weeks ago, that through a satellite link (I think it was),
  a service exists where you can tune in to hundreds of radio stations across
  the country. If I knew I could pick between maybe a dozen or so rock
  stations as opposed to two or three, I'd probably spend the money and
  subscribe. It was being said that local radio stations thought they would
  suffer because of this. Anyone hear anything more about this?

  Typical scenario...I set up the tape deck to record some tunes off the
  radio. First five minutes: station #1 plays a tune I despise, #2 DJ is
  babbling, #3 commercials. Next five minutes: #1 DJ is babbling,
  #2 playing a tune I've heard too many times, #3 good tune, but I missed
  the first minute (thought the preceeding commercials would take longer).
  Next five minutes: all stations babbling because it's near the top of the
  hour...and on and on...I'm lucky if I get maybe one or two good tunes in
  a two hour period...

  Bob
                                                                          
    

384.83One brief shining moment?RNDHSE::WALLShow me, don't tell meThu Feb 09 1995 12:1811
    
    When WCGY first became WEGQ they had no DJs, no commercials,
    practically non-stop music.  In fact, at first, I thought that someone
    had bought the station as a tax write-off, and that they were keeping
    it transmitting only to hold on to the FCC license.  That lasted for
    about ten days, and if you could had any liking at all for the music it
    was a practically perfect radio station.
    
    Alas, they appear to have found DJs and advertisers.
    
    DFW
384.84technology - a wonderful thangMAGEE::OSTIGUYThu Feb 09 1995 12:257
    radio...what's radio ???   I listen to WCRB 102.5 (24 hour classical)
    more than any other station, due to all of the reasons mentioned in
    previous replies....or the best alternative, Cassette Deck...(no cd
    player inthe truck yet for me)  I get to choose what I hear, when...no
    talk, no commercials...it's kinda cool
    
    :)))
384.85Cable RadioNITMOI::LEMAIREThu Feb 09 1995 16:3714
    Re: a couple back
    
    My brother lives in Southern California. He gets some kind
    of cable radio thing where you get access to about 50 or 60
    different radio 'stations'. Each channel has a designated
    format - while I was there for a few days I listened to a
    blues channel - it was pretty good - they played a huge
    variety of artists and styles. I don't think there were
    commercials but truthfully I can't remember.
    
    Anyway - it seemed like a great alternative for home listening.
    Doesn't help much in the car unless you have a really long cable!
    
    Louise
384.86WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Feb 09 1995 21:2118
    
    re. the cassette deck solution:
    
    My Car CD player gets used about 90% of the time, the radio about 10% 
    (and AM news/talk half of that 10%)...  The problem with this is that soon,
    if you don't take out some time to listen to the blasted radio, you don't 
    know what new stuff to go buy!
    
    It's a Catch 22, and I'd been opting for "guessing" rather than trudging
    through the airwaves.  :^)
    
    But actually with all the Web servers (and Notes), it's getting a lot
    easier to find groups that people review, discuss, list anthologies
    for, etc., so recently that's how I'm more and more finding out what to
    buy and what I might like.
    
    - Sean
      
384.87Mount Rialto RadioPCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingMon Feb 13 1995 15:4110
    WCDQ FM 92.1 out of Sanford Maine is about the best radio I've ever
    heard save for college stations.
    
    Typical one hour sampling: 
    
    Frank Zappa's "Mudshark", John Hiatt's "Trudy and Dave", Rockpile's 
    "Crawling from the Wreckage", Wings' "Let Me Roll It", Lucinda Williams' 
    "Passionate Kisses" and Elvis Costello's "From a Whisper to a Scream".
    
    Mark.
384.88Maynard-Sterling area radio stationsWRKSYS::FRANTZThu Mar 09 1995 17:1312
    I just moved into Massachusets, and am trying to find some good radio
    stations.  So far most of the non-commercial stations seem to be NPR
    repeaters (I listen mainly in the car, during commute time).  Does
    anybody have a list of the college stations in Eastern Mass?  It's kind
    of dangerous trying to pull in marginal signals in traffic!  
    
    By the way, I lived in Poughkeepsie, NY and there were two stations I'd
    recommend - WDST (Woodstock) at 96.9 and 100.1 FM, and Vasser College's
    WVKR at 91.3 FM.  Although Vasser's station varies a lot, depending on
    who was there (one if the reasons I liked it, actually).
    
    Karl