Conference mr1pst::music

    OK.  There are probably too many to list but let's start with a couple
    off the top of my head.  Traffic, and Cream.  Two tremendously talented
    bands (with very few members) who are now (more or less by choice I
    believe) defunct.  On a slightly (ok, wildly) different tangent there
    is Blood, Sweat, & Tears.  If you're into that kind of sound, easily
    one of the most talented and unified sounding bands I can think of (I
    think pretty much all of the members came from Julliard).  I guess
    that's a start.  Maybe folks might want to input or just start listing
    others.
    
    -Jesse

    
    	Not really what I was looking for but that's okay.  I thought it
    	would be worth noting the bands that never even approached the
    	level that the bands you mentioned did.  Barely out of the basement
    	types and or local favorites who just went south eevn though they
    	had a pretty steady following and sounded good to you.  No offence to
    	you southereners!
    
    	- Jim

    My choice for most under-rated, now broken-up band: Gentle Giant.
    
    I'm also probably one of the few who would admit to pining for a Led
    Zeppeling reuinion. But then again, they were certainly *never*
    under-rated, and many would claim they were grossly over-rated.
    None-the-less, I still enjoy their music quite a bit and wouldn't mind
    hearing more of it...
    
    On a somewhat tangential note, not very many of the "old" bands that
    have staged reunions are of much interest to me. Yes and Pink Floyd (I
    like them even without Waters) are about all I can think of off the top
    of my head.
    
    Brian

    There was a band called Linn County with horns and B3 that had an album
    out in the late '60's.. great polyrhythms, uncommon time signatures..
    they did a great cover of James Brown's "Think" ("about the right
    things").  I went to see them at Detroit's Grande Ballroom in 1969,
    great show.. the second band was Jimmy Page's new group, Led Zeppelin
    (Zep I had just been released).  I heard Zep as a Jeff Beck ripoff, and
    I was tired, so I went home.
    
    Another group was California's Clear Light, on Elektra.  Very good
    songwriting, included Tom Paxton's "Mr. Blue" ("we've got our eyes on
    you.. think of it as SENSE and not surrender").  1967 or early 1968.
    
    Detroit's MC-5.  What can I say ?
    
    The Amboy Dukes, Ted Nugent's breakthrough  band.
    
    Iggy and the Stooges..
    
    karl

    To get back on the subject of "local" (by which I guess .0 meant
    Boston, mebbe it's time to rename the title?):
    
    The Dark
    
    Don't know too much about them other than their song "Judy" (about Judy
    Grunwald, later of Salem 66) was a gem.  Quirky pop with a capital Q. 
    I heard that Reeves Gabrels of Tin Machine was in this band.
    
    The Real Kids
    
    Where is John Felice these days?  This band and its alter ego the Taxi
    Boys played some incredible rock and roll, full of energy and hooks.
    The song "I Can't Talk To That Girl" nearly melted down my turntable.
    
    Rubber Rodeo
    
    A Roxy Music soundalike band from RI dressed up as cowboys and doing
    covers of "Jolene" and "Wichita Lineman"?  Then they signed to PolyGram
    who made them fire their bassist, use a machine instead of the
    drummer, etc.  Leader Bob Holmes is now fronting Boo Radley I think.
    
    DMZ
    
    Any band that could spawn the Lyres, the Odds, Barrence Whitfield and
    the Savages and who knows how many other garage bands should go down in
    history.
    
    November Group
    
    A female synth pop duo that made some local noise, signed to A&M then
    immediately sank without a trace.  
    
    Girls Night Out
    
    Started as a one-gig goof on the girl groups of the sixties, this band
    became a major draw and a victim of its own success, as most of the
    members had other things they wanted to do more.  Since the band
    folded, saxophonists Cercie Miller and Myanna have both been fronting
    jazz bands.  
    
    							Brian

    
    	Brian,
    
    	I didn't mean to imply Boston but at last you're on the track!
    
    	I tried to SET NOTE/TITLE but for some odd reason I  can't.
    
    	- Jim

    
    For a Boston band, how about Private Lightning?  They were around in
    the late 70s and early 80s.  We used to see them around here and out at
    UMass.  The violinist was pretty cool, with the tinsel(?) attached to
    the end of her bow.  THe lead singer (Adam Sherman, I think) later
    joined the Souls, who played around town for a few years with minor
    success.  
    
    Every once in a while I'll play the Private Lightning album; real good
    stuff bringing back alot of memories.
    
    Steve

    
    	I haven't listened to that in years, I'll have to give it a listen.
    	They were one of the first bands I saw in the clubs.
    
    	- Jim

    Two more that I can think of are Face to Face and The Drive.  The only
time I saw Face to Face was after they had released their last album and
they were playing at the Rat.  Not sure why they were still playing the 
small clubs after they had gotten some recognition, but maybe it was a 
sign that they were on the way out.  Great lead singer.  The Drive won a
MTV basement tapes contest a bunch of years back and had a couple of songs
on BCN and FNX but I haven't heard of them since.  Real good funky band they
did a great version of "Thank you for lettin' me be myself".


					Bill

    By the way, Girls Night Out is performing a reunion gig (all original
    members) Feb. 16 at Nightstage in Boston.

Private Lightning ... wow, I totally forgot about them.

How about:

	The Proletariat?  I have one of their albums, "Indifference."
	I've heard that they have another album called "Soma Holiday,"
	but haven't been able to find it.  Great band - intelligent
	lyrics, weird murky punk sound.

	The Slickee Boys?  I saw them once at Spit in Boston ...
	haven't heard of 'em since.

- Dave

Back around the late 60's/early 70's I frequented a club called Brandy's, on
Commonwealth Ave in Boston (Brighton, actually). They had a lot of good bands of
both rock and blues persuasions. It was a real "sawdust on the floor" sort of
casual place, with pinball in back and a small dance floor out front- but I
digress! On to the bands...

One band (which I believe is still around) was "Room Full of Blues." A nice
surprise one night was James Montgomery showing up all of a sudden and sitting
in on harp.

Another which had good original material and a Poco/Loggins&Messina sort of style
was "Wheatstraw." I still recall one original called "Step Outside."

Ah, nostalgia...

Bob

    
    let's see...  some local bands that i remember and had hoped to see
    more of were:
    
    	Incredible Two Man Band
    	Duke and the Drivers
    	Fate
    	Maze (later the Dots)
    
    the only ones i know anything about in the "where are they now" arena
    is the last one...  from what i understand, the old keyboard player is
    a tv news reporter (ch 56 mebbe?) and the guitarist, Robert Holmes,
    went on to play with 'Til Tuesday and his current project is Ultra
    Blue...
    
    					da ve

    
    re: .11
    
    The "great lead singer" in Face to Face was Laurie Sargeant. She's
    still playing around Boston and nearby 'burbs with her own band now.
    More of a bluesy, country, rootsy feel than the hard rock of Face to
    Face (who I never really cared for). Anyway, she does have a great
    voice and this band is probably my current local favorite. Check 'em
    out. They just knock me out in a way only a few other local bands ever
    did.
    
    Speaking of which ... my favorite local bands of all time (that I
    went back to see over and over) would have to be Orchestra Luna (from
    way back when), Mission of Burma, and a little-known, off-the-wall 
    band called the Girls (friends of HSR). Great stuff. 
    
    Rob

    Some of the 'Boston' local bands that I used to love to see
    are as follows. No particular order. 
    
    	Atlantics
    
    	Human Sexual Response
    
    	Berlin Airlift
    
    	Mission of Burma
    
    	Roomful of Blues - I know, they're out of RI and are still around.
    
    All were great alternatives to the disco scene which was prevalent
    during their heydays.
    
    Jim C.
    

    Southpaw !!
    

    
    Append to -1 (Face to Face):
    
    Face to Face split into 2 bands; The Laurie Sargent band and
    the Immortals (which I believe is Angelo's band).
    
    Face to Face used to pack 'em in at "Franklin's" in Shirley, Mass.
    Franklin's used to get a ton of Boston acts Face to Face, Stompers,
    Down Avenue (who got signed and then dropped before releasing their
    album), Ball and Pivot, Jon Butcher, Digney Fignus (remember him?
    "Girl with the Curious Hand"?).
    
    Re: The Dark
    
    The drummer for the Dark (Michael Haussman) went on to play drums
    in 'til tuesday.
    
    Anyone remember the New Models?  They were great live!
    
    
    chUck

    
    -Gentle Giant....truly amazing and not at all fully appreciated.
    
    -Greenslade...Dave Greenslade's solo group after Coliseum split up.
    Dave Lawton's vocals still occasionally sound like fingernails on a 
    blackboard, but some of the writing was beautiful, and well played.
    
    -Amazing Blondel...
    
    -Blodwyn Pig...I realize they were probably pretty popular in Britain,
    but they should have been more widely recognized over here. Just a
    great, talented, fun-to-listen-to band. "Dear Jill" is still one of my
    favorite tunes, and the liner notes to 'Ahead Rings Out' still crack me
    up.
    
    -Hampton Grease Band...Released one album on Capitol, back in '70 called 
    'Music to Eat'. A pretty frenetic 5-piece that would evolve tunes into  
    long, jazzy, harmonically advanced jams (kind of like Ornette Coleman
    meets the Grateful Dead), and then would launch into a hyperkinetic
    version of 'Rock Around the Clock'.
    
    -If....great combination of jazzers playing rock and rockers playing
    jazz. Dennis Elliott of Foreigner was originally from here, I think.
    
    -The Bonzos....enough said.
    
    Peter

    
    Mr. Moderator...please remove my last reply. Neglected to realize the
    emphasis was on local groups....tnx...
    
    Peter
    

    When I first started going to clubs to hear local Boston bands, tow of
    my favorites were "Rick Berlin: The Movie" and "The Great Divide."
    
    Rick Berlin: The Movie was Rick Berlin's band after "Berlin Airlift." 
    About two years ago, I had dinner at Doherty's (?) in Dorchester 
    and was very surprised to be served by Rick Berlin: The Waiter.
    
    I don't know what became of The Great Divide.  After they broke up, I
    did see two members of the band play - one on guitar, one on one of
    those big violin-like things that you play standing up while the
    instrument rests on the floor - at the Plough and Stars in 
    Cambridge.
    
    I also used to see "New Man" and "The Drive" quite often.
    
    That was then.  This is now.
    
    My current favorite local band is the Laurie Sargent band.
    
    Mike 

    
    	You can delete anything you've written as long as you're logged
    	into the same node::username that you entered your reply but
    	all that aside I'd leave your reply, it certainly fits in better
    	than the earlier Cream/Zep discussion!
    
    	- Jim

    Looks like a lot of people, including me, missed the "Local" in the
    notes title. That's because the note title is too long! It should just
    say "Local Bands" or "Now-defunct Local Bands". Don't write a book in
    the title, and don't worry about forming complete sentences. This isn't
    a writing contest, it's a notes file...
    
    It's a good idea to use short titles, and then to clarify the purpose
    of your note in .0.
    
    Brian
    MUSIC Mod

And don't forget the North Shore contingent of local bands, which were always
my favorites (The Dawgs, The Nervous Eaters, The Real Kids, The Fools, etc.)!

New Models and Private Lightning were two of my favorite local bands! 

alan

Lots of old loal bands.

As already said Luna and Berlin Airlift. 

There used to be a band called the Spores that I thought was good but
don't know much about em.  Anybody remember anything about them?

Animated String Section (A.S.S) and The Incredible Two Man Band.

Up around Nashua - a band called Soap, Aces and Eights, Branch Brother Band
Crossfire etc.

old bands and local too.

title length ?  c'mon.  
bob

    
    What was Mission of Burma's hit?  "Hit" in terms of the Boston stations
    played it a lot.  I can't remember if they had more than one or not,
    all I remember is that there was a song by them I really liked and I
    can't for the life of me remember the name or how the tune went.  Are
    they available on CD?
    
    - Sean

    
    	That's when I reach for my revolver but I'm sure that's way too
    	long a title.
    
    	- Jim

    
    	Sean,
    
    	I forgot to add yes they're on CD...I seem to recall liking
    	"Photograph" or something like that too among others. 
    
    	I recall a discography in RADIO_RADIO, the place where titles
    	are open ended!
    
    	- Jim

    .19 mentioned The New Models.  If memory serves, they were previously
    known as The Jets and at least one of the members was from Manchester,
    NH.  Their "hit" "Say What" is a great song.
    
    Others I've seen or listened to:
    
    The Trademarks - great club band
    The Rhythm Method - did some killer Clash and Elvis Costello covers
    The Lines
    The Lyres
    The Atlantics
    The Neighborhoods - "Prettiest Girl" is one of my favorites
    Boys Life
    Face to Face - saw them at Franklins....Laurie Sargent was terrific
    Sex Execs - Love "Tammyitis" and "My Ex"
    Humans - Met Dini at Spit during my wife's and my first date. He used 
             to tend bar at Spit and make fun of Oedipus.
    The Daughters - I believe from Worcester...saw them at Ralph's
    Pastiche
    New England
    O Positive
    
    And a million others that escape memory....
    
    Mark.
    

As Jim mentioned, "That's When I Reach For My Revolver"
was their most popular song on Boston stations.  "Academy
Fight Song", an earlier single, got some airplay too.
The Mission of Burma CD from Ryko contains all of the Vs.
LP, the Signals, Calls, and Marches EP (with Revolver),
Academy Fight Song, and a couple songs from their live
LP, The Horrible Truth About Burma.  This is the famous
over-80 minute CD, still the longest in my collection.

Perhaps this will be totally uncool (the band sure was
at the time), but I liked Midnight Traveler from the
same time period.  They never released any vinyl as far
as I know, though.  Much more mainstream and country-
flavored rock than the new-wavers and garage bands
listed here.

    
    The Gorehounds! 8-)

    Private Lightning, ah yes... their first big local hit
    was "Song of the Kite".  There was another one that got
    a lot of airplay.  They had a real nice texture.  Unfortunately,
    when they finally got a record deal, it sounded way overproduced;
    ruined the unique character of their sound imo.  I'd love to find
    some of the early demo tapes that they made their name on.
    
    I remember the first BCN rumble finals; Someone and the Somebodies
    beat out the Dark.  Both were off the wall, quirky, fun bands.
    I kinda liked the Dark better myself.  Someone and the Somebodies
    had a minor local hit with a demented cover of "Working in a Coal Mine"
    
    What, nobody's mentioned my favorite forgotten Boston band yet?
    The Rings.  Two killer albums, great songs, great hooks, great
    players, tight catchy power pop with a soul.  Why these guys never
    made it big has always been a mystery to me.

	Here goes noting...

	Bands that played in Rumble past

	{disclaimer: errors possibly due to brain drainage}

	1989 Winner: The Bags
	 
	Anastasia Screamed, A Scanner Darkly, Big Barn Burning, Blake Babies,
	Busted Statues, Blood Oranges, Circle Sky, Common Ailments of Maturity,
	Garr Lange and the Big Rig, Happy Campers, Hell Toupee, Hullabaloo,
	Idle Hands, Johnny and the Jumper Cables, The Joneses {good company,
	signed to Atlantic by the same person who signed Jimmy Page}, 
	Kid Crash, Pieces, Slapshot, The Premiers, Two Saints, Ultra Blue, 
	Well Babys.


	1988 Winner: Heritix

	Bim Skala Bim, Bullet La Volta, Citicenz, Class Action, Dharma Bums,
	Dixie Cinema, Dogzilla, Forever 19, Great Divide, Incredible Casuals,
	Lemonheads, Matweeds, Naural Nation, 1.4.5, One Life, Pat on the Back,
	Plate O'Shirmp, Raindogs, Runaway Dan, Slaves, Think Tree, Titanics,
	Tribe.


	1987 Winner: Childhood
	
	Al haliday & The Hurricanes, Ammo, Big Dipper, The Catalinas, The
	Cavedogs, Dr. Black's Combo, Gotham City, Moose & The Mudbugs, 
	Moving Targets, Nova Mob, Power Glide, The Rain, Rapture of The Deep,	
	Shake The Faith, Struggle, The Taint, The Tears, T.H. & The Wreckage,
	Tom Keegan & The Language, Treat Her Right, Unattached, Vasco Da
	Gama, The Wicker Men.


	1986 Winner: Gang Green

	Bang, Beat Surrender, Blockyard, Body English, Bristols, Buddy System,
	Capture the Flag, Children of Paradise, Condo Pygmies, Cut 299,
	Eighth Route Army, Expose, The Five, Hearts on Fire, Loose Ties,
	The Not, The Oysters, Pulse 8, Semper Fi, True Blue, Visagoths,
	World at Play.


	1985 Winner: Down Avenue

	Adventure Set, Ata-Tat, Bamboo Gang, Band 19, Blaros, Dogmatics,
	Dumptruck, Fingerpaint, The F.U.'s, Holy Cow, Last Sacrafice,
	Last Stand, Life on Earth, Lowgistics, MX, New Man, O-Positive,
	Rash of Stabbings, Scruffy the Cat, Sons of Sappho, The Souls,
	The Underachievers, The Van Dykes.


	1984 Winner: The Schemers

	Athens, Axminster, Ball & Pivot, Blackjacks, Breakfast in Bed,
	The Drive, Dub 7, The Gluons, Going Grafitti, Judy's Tiny Head,
	Pink Cadillac, Push Push, Red, The Reflectors, Rods and Cones,
	Skin, SSD, Those Upstarts, Three Hands, The Turbines {Titanics drummer},
	Two Million B.C., Wild Kingdom {Human Sexual Response offspring}.


	1983 Winner: 'Til Tuesday

	Mickey Bliss, Lizzie Borden & The Axes, The Catch, Christmas,
	The Del Fuegos, Digney Fingus,  Drezniak, Jeff and Jane Hudson,
	Jerry's Kids, The Lifters, M.I.A.'s, The Nebulas, New Romance,
	The Phantoms, Prime Movers, Psycho, Radio Novena, Salem 66 {Hey,
	666 won't fit!}, Ron Scarlett, Sex Execs, Smegma & The Nuns, 
	Stickball, Three Colors, Mike Viola.


	1982 Winner: Limbo Race

	Angry Young Bees, Dangerous Birds, The Dream {Extreme}, The Enemy, Fire
	Dept, Foreign Legion, Hi-Beams, The Jackals, Johnny A's Hiden
	Secret, Chris Martin, Mighty Ions, Native Tounge, New Career,
	Primary Colors, Primitive Romance, Proletariat, The Puppet Rulers,
	Redline, Gary Shane & The Detour, 1645, Wild Stares.


	1981 Winner: Someone & The Somebodies

	Art Yard, Balloon {Farren..}, Creamers, The Dark, Death in Shopping 
	Malls, The Extremes, Face to Face {L. Sargent}, The Freeze, Future 
	Dads, Junkmail, Tennie Komar & The Silencers, The Lines, The Modes, 
	The Neats, Planet Street {where's the guitar player? short-lived 
	Mere Mortals}, The Runes, The Satellites, The Stains, Suede Cowboys, 
	Swingers Resort, Vy, The Young Snakes.


	1980 Winner: Pastiche

	American Teen, Boy's Life, Darling, The Dawgs, Peter Dayton {? 
	current Titanics bassist}, The Eggs, France, Ground Zero, Harleguin, 
	Hot Tips, The Loners, The Make, The Mirrors, MPC & the Instigators, 
	The Names, The Nationals, The Peytons, The Remakers, The Shades, 
	Slow Childern, The Sonics, Third Rail, The Trade Marks.


	1979 Winner: The Neighborhoods

	Arion Duce, The Charge, Classic Ruins, Harlequin, The Hits, The Jets,
	Kid Morocco, LaPeste, The Lazers,  The Lyres, The Maps {Judy Grunwald 
	pre-Salem 66}, Meltdown, Mission of Burma, Phobia, Reckless, The Rings, 
	Streets, Marc Thor, Thrills, Unnatural Axe, The Vinny Band, Zodio Doze.

    Ah, so all these years I've been under the mistaken illusion that
    '81 was the first year of the Rumble.  Oh well.
    
    Amazing list, did you really do that from memory!?
    
    It may be unfair, and sure there are bands that try to beat the system,
    but I like the Rumble policy of no repeat entries.  One shot, that's
    all you get.  Some incredible lineups in there, some really great bands
    never won.

    
    	You are kidding, right?  No, my memory is pretty good but I
    	copied that some time ago out of the Beat mag and had already
    	entered it in RADIO_RADIO.
    
    	I can barely recall which of those bands I've seen over the years!
    
    	I asked once before and never got an answer...what about the fine
    	guitarist who used to be in Planet Street?  
    
    	While we're on with this here's some defunct club flashbacks, 
    	Storyville, Streets, Johnathon Swifts which I hear is open again 
    	at new location near Soldiers Field Road near Brighton (MA!), 
    	Jumpin Jack Flash now literally a hole in ground in the Fenway, 
    	Jumpo's, Jack's...
    
    	- Jim

    The Lowgistics... yea thats the one.
    does any one have a copy of there song "kiss me when you leave"?
    I can never find the music I am looking for.
    If any one has this record and they no longer want it or could
    make a copy.....
    i would appreciate it
    thanks
    jim

Anybody mention Robin Lane (Chartbusters?) yet?

How bout Robert Ellis Oral (apologies on spelling his name...and I think
he was local)...still ove that song he did with Carlene Carter - "I couldn't
say no".

I can't quite remember but was there a guy that had the word "Count" in
his name in a half a zillion incarnations?

just a couple more,
bob

    
    
    Luna ->Berlin Airlift was my fav local band.
    
    "Hooray for Hollywood," "Ugliest Man in the World" where the
    audience would throw coins at Rick Belin at the end of the tune. Then
    later, "Stop and Think About it," "I'm Not Guilty," "Hunger Strikes."
    Great stuff.
    
    
    How about Johanna Wild, which brought us John Butcher.
    
    Re the New Models:  I agree, great live band.  I have part(?) of an EP
    they put out on tape, including "Say What."  Great song.  
    
    I have The Souls album floating around, too.  A friend of mine
    was their manager for a while.
    
    Kevin
    

    
    
    	Tried to never miss shows by...
            
    	Last Stand
    	The Dogmatics
        Condo Pygmies - singer still works at the Orpheum's Ticketmaster
    	The Neats - there have been two reunion gigs 
    	Blackjacks
    
    
	John Felice - he sang a song or two with the Bristols a few months 
    		      ago... BTW, I think the Real Kids had some material 
    		      released on cd recently 
    	Digney Fignus - bass player Danny McGrath used to be on PBS' tv
                        show "Zoom"
        The Lyres - the original lineup recently played at Outer Limits 
    		    (Quincy Bay Inn)
    	New Models - were they the band who covered AC/DC's "It's a Long 
    		     Way to the Top"?
    
    
    Paul                                                          

    
    	The Barbarians
    
    	Barry and the Remains
    
    	Tacky Snazz
    
    	rjc

A great local band in NH was Peter Schonk (sp?) and the Live Wires ... just
good ol' blues.  No idea what happened to them.

- Dave

    I heard that NH luminary G.G. Allin was supposed to commit suicide at a
    gig this past Halloween.  Anybody know how that turned out?  Has anyone
    ever caught this guy's act?  He has boasted he has never been allowed
    to complete a show.
    
    						Brian

    How bout'....
    
    	American Standard, The Joneses, PF and the Flyers,
        Albatros, FYBE (Fair,Yates,Betchhart,& Evans)
        The Estes Boys, Pousette_Dart Band.
    
    Ah...The good old days at the RED BARN and Timothy's Spirits!
    
    
    			Tom

    
    re: .45
    
     Yeah, I remember them bands.  I'm currently doing some original stuff
    with the old drummer from American Standard.  Anyone remember Orpheus,
    they had a single out called Can't find The Time to Tell You. They also
    did an album.  Some other tunes they did: Leslie's World, Congress
    Alley .. in fact, they lived down around Congress Alley which at the 
    time was sort of the Haight-Ashbury equivalent in Worcester.
    
    How about, the New Breed - I'm going back to the days of the Comic
    Strip with this band !
    
    Larry

    The bassist of Orpheus came from my hometown (Cheshire, CT).
    
    						Brian

    John Butcher Axis.  That was the only band I went out of my way to
    see when I was in college.  

    Hey Jim, your note in .43 reminded me of a band I used to go see all
    the time when I was in college: the Hi-Beams.
    
    I first heard them when 'BCN rebroadcast the sets of the 1982 Rumble
    finalists.  I really liked what I heard.  A week or so later, they were
    booked to play a show at my school, WPI.
    
    After that, they played around Worcester quite a bit.  I caught them
    mostly at the Clark University Pub, where I hung out constantly with
    my girlfriend.
    
    Actually, the Pub was a great place to catch Boston acts.  That's where
    I first discovered Robin Lane, the November Group, and Wild Kingdom.
    
    It wasn't until a year or so later (after my girlfriend transfered to
    Wheaton College) that we figured out that traveling to Boston was the
    best way to catch Boston bands.
    
    And the rest (along with my girlfriend) is history...
    
    -Scott

    Another from the hinterland recesses of the mind.
    
    Pastiche
    
    

    
    Does anyone remember:
    
    The Techniques
    Elements of Sound
    Horse
    Minus One
    The Rubber Band
    The Formations
    
    They were all cover bands, though.
    
    Interestingly, Minus One had released a rocked-up version of Roy
    Orbison's "Pretty Woman" that predated the VH release by about
    five years.  Didn't get them anywhere...
    
    Brian

    
    
    	Re: .44
    
    	G.G. Allin has been saying he's gonna commit suicide onstage 
    during a Halloween gig for the past few years.  His recent stint 
    in jail kinda messed up his plans though.
    
    	In a brief interview in Thrasher (skateboard mag) he said he
    couldn't do it in '91 'cuz of legal problems.  
    
    	Legal problems?!... huh?!?! 8^)
    
    
    Paul                        
    	

    I've never seen or heard of this G.G. Allin person... what is it about
    his show that prevents him from completing it? Does anyone know if he
    is seeking professional help?
    
    And...
    
    What's his music like?
    
    Brian

His music involves throwing excrement (his own) at the audience.  

I believe his legal problems also involve this.

    
    That's ridiculous and DISGUSTING!

Re last two:

What's even *more* ridiculous (and pathetic) is the type of audience who would
*pay* cash money to be the targets...talk about "the great unwashed!"

Bob

    The Peter Dayton Band released a great EP @1980 or so.  Wouldn't mind
    hearing that stuff again...  
    
    Has anyone mentioned Busted Statues, Angry Young Bees, Swinging
    Eruydites (of "Walk with an Erection" fame)?
    
    dan
    
    

    Yes, Peter Dayton. Another great local act. Used to see him at Jack's
    in Cambridge. Tried to pick up a date I took to see him one time. It
    turned out rather funny. Ended up partying with the band til the early
    hours.
    
    BTW - Jack's burnt to the ground a number of years back. Too bad. A
    small but fun place to hear bands.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

    RE: .56
    
    Yeah, but does he lipsynch?

    
    
    	Has anyone mentioned the ITMB - Incredible Two Man Band !!!
    
    	They did cover tunes, but were damn good.
    
    	How about Northeast Express, another cover band, but excellent.
    
    	I've seen both these bands playing at places like Timothy's Too
    	and the ever famous Red Barn, ah what a club.
    
    	Gilley

    Try again...
    
    Re. .45 - about Fair, Yates & Betschart: Fair & Betschart are now known
    as Back Pages, and they will be playing at Doc 'n' Nellies in Canton,
    tomorrow night, Jan. 30th, 8:30-12:30 .... they're still great!
    
    Tom Yates (who occasionally sits in with Back Pages for a set or two)
    plays every now and then for a band that will be at the Sit 'n Bull
    in Maynard some time in February - when I know the dates, I'll post
    them.
    
    Last heard about Glen Evans - he was playing with Dr. Hook this summer
    at an appearance on the Cape.
    
    About the Incredible Two Man Band - I just heard something about the
    keyboard player, but will post it *after* I confirm it...
    
    
    Suegene
    

	This prompted me to dig out some 'ole Beat magazines, pretty 
	interesting to see some of the club listings and many of the
	now sadly defuncted clubs.  

	Judging my the activity here, the next time I'm in one of the 
	used/new record stores I'm not going to see all those local 
	records just taking up space, right?  

	Angry Young Bees, that's it, all I could recall was something Bees.

	Plan 9 didn't they get back recently for a reunion or am I thinking 
	of the Prime Movers?  An interesting article in the Phoenix a little 
	way back said one of these bands was years ahead of the now somewhat
	dated Manchester (England) sound.

	Treat Her Right - didn't they sign with a major label?

	Salem 66 - I can't say much more than I already have in RADIO_RADIO
	about this band.  I clearly like them and miss this band.  Their
	live sound could have always been better but I always enjoyed seeing
	them.  A band called Hair Corpse incidentally from New York where
	Salem 66 tended to do better in the clubs then in their home town
	area of Boston sounds a bit influenced and I use that word loosely,
	in the vocal style of Judy and Beth.  I only heard one track
	by hair Corpse so please no cards and letters.  The band among
	others can be heard on a free cassette tape that's available
	from Galt Records. The address can be found in RAD_RAD, title
	free tapes or something like that.

	Anyone recall New England, the drummer whose names escapes me right
	now has done some producing of local bands around town - was anyone
	at the show somewhere a top one of the buildings at Haymarket in 
	Boston circa '79?
		
	I wasn't at this show or party or whatever but I recall walking by and
	hearing their song that had somewhat of a lot of airplay.  I forget 
	the title "never want to loose/leave you" was one of the lines.

	A lot of these I can't even recall their sound but worth mentioning
	I guess...

	Blockyard

	Eight Ball or something Eight Point?

	Yea, the Swingin' Erudites as already mentioned.

	The recently defuncted Slaves.

	The Real Kids influenced Bristols who are an active band but
	just thought I'd mention them.

	Trace of Red?  what became of them?

	A band I can't recall their name at all but the line "night of
	the living..." as well as some of the other songs I liked
	a lot but never again saw or found who this band was.  I recall
	them at TT's about 3-5 years ago.  Gee, that narrows it now, huh?
	{lost to the alcove in my mind}

	As already mentioned Jon Butcher - I heard from a close friend of
	his that he is planning on moving back to Boston....

	The Fools who are hardly defuncted, they've been playing around
	town for years, literally.  Likewise the Stompers.

	Foster and Tully ? I recall a friend who played drums with
	them.  Only saw them once at Mass Art but they didn't last long.
	
	Mere Mortal, the guitarists  from Planet Street (the song
	General Hospital) I think the Mortals only did a one-off gig at 
	Jacks which I loved but again never saw a word about him or 
	this band.

	The Dawgs

	The Lines

	Christmas

	Scruffy the Cat - one member's brother new bass player in Titanics
	replacing the former Peter Dayton bass player I think.

	Til' Tuesday always enjoyed them back away.

	Likewise Robin Lane both with band and acoustic  - she's still
	around the clubs.  Edible Rex I think sometime soon.
	
	Who ever mentioned Busted Stages, one member now with Mindgrinder,
	the record "Bands that Could be God" you probably already have or 
	should have.. Some that I recall Salem 66, Womb to Tomb,
	Moving Targets, Wrecking Crew  (memory errors).

	The Turbines, drummer Fred Nazzaro now with/back with the Titanics.

	Yea on Peter Dayton.

	The Outlets (David Alex Barton his current project)
	
	More of the ones already mentioned, Face to Face, Balloon...

	I'll come back to this but it really bugs me to not be able
	to recall more of this...

	A bit of my faith was restored by the crowd that attended the 
	Poster Children (Champagne, IL) and Sweredriver (England's
	Thames Valley scene {insert your favorite smiley thing here}
	show last night.

	As someone mentioned in note 45 in RAD_RAD the club, TT's
	would have been much wiser to have had two separate shows.
	Clearly Sweredriver would draw well having not made it
	over last summer, a domestic record release, etc. and Poster
	Children have a good following and getting better all the time
	especially considering they've played in the Boston area 3 or 4 times 
	in relatively short time.  The club was quite crowded but as long
	as it's not hot I don't mind but it does make it difficult to
	jockey for stage position.  Anyhow the Fire martial (?) said that 
	80 people had to leave in order for the show to start which it finally 
	did.  Poster Children by this time had already played.  Surprisingly 
	enough the required number of people took advantage of the refund 
	(great if you already saw the first band and wanted to leave anyhow) 
	which is what I friend of mine had done.  After Poster Children 
	finished we moved out of the center stage floor area to the less 
	crowed bar area and not long after I heard someone saying I'm sorry but
	if your standing in this area you're going to have to take the 
	refund and leave if you don't have an advance ticket.  So I quickly 
	moved to mingle back into the crowd and at last enjoyed the show.

	At the height of the crowd there literary was no path to walk in or out
	of the club through the main isle.  Only once was I regrettable turned 
	away for a show here, Jane's Addiction 2 years or so ago.
	
	To be continued in RADIO_RADIO

	And lastly Hiding in Public deserve mention who although are not
	formerly defuncted I think their Dave Sharp produced project
	would have had done better if not for the rather lack luster
	promotion, etc.  A fun bad to see live and I look forward to
	them being back in the clubs.  It's True the guitarist could move 
	about more but last I heard he's working it.  The guitarist and 
	lead singer both were in a more WZBC modern rockish type band
	prior to H.I,P.  I'd say alternative but that description no longer
	makes any sense, if it ever did.  There's only two  kinds of 
	music good and bad.  There's many marketing descriptions of music, 
	too many adjectives for me to list via my 2400 baud terminal.

	- Jim

    
    	p.s. Also the west coast band Frightwig who I never saw before
    	their demise.
    
    	- Jim

    re .57
    
    It's funny you mention Peter Dayton's EP. I just picked it up for
    a buck at a used record store. I just had to get a copy of 
    "Perfect Wave." It was produced by Ric Ocasek and features other
    members of the Cars.
    
    -Tom

    does anyone know if you can get a copy of Peter Dayton on cd?
    
    gotta love that "Perfect Wave"

    Does anyone remember a Boston band named The Specimens? I saw them a
    few times in the late 70's, early 80's at places like the Rat,
    Bunratty's, sp?, and a little hole in the wall in the Financial
    district. The name evades me now but it was supposed to be an Italian
    restaurant but no food was served. A real dive but great place to see
    little known acts.
    
    Anyway, The band Think Tree reminds quite a bit of The Specimens. The
    last I heard of The Specimens was that they were heading to Colorado
    to do some gigs at some of the Ski resorts. Never heard from them
    again.
    
    Jim C.

    re. last few
    
    That Peter Dayton ep has Love at First Sight (well alright)! or
    whatever the song title, correct?  Nice find.
    
    The Turbines!  Yeah, I forgot them.  Saw them open for the Beat Farmers
    at Jonathan Swifts shortly before they broke up.
    
    New England had another song called "Airport"...stupid lyrics, catchy
    tune though.  A personal favorite of Mark Parenteau's for some unknown
    reason.
    
    dan
    

    
I'll also throw in my vote for the Peter Dayton EP - great stuff!!!

> New England had another song called "Airport"...stupid lyrics, catchy tune 
> though. A personal favorite of Mark Parenteau's for some unknown reason.

Actually, "Airport" is done by the Motors, a British band that also had a 
hit with the brilliant single "Love and Lonliness".

Another favortie local song - "One Man Army" by the Lines. This was on the
'Live At The Metro' album, with New Models, Stompers, Private Lightning,
and some others.

alan

    Re .67

    >Bunratty's, sp?, and a little hole in the wall in the Financial
    >district. The name evades me now but it was supposed to be an Italian
    >restaurant but no food was served. A real dive but great place to see
    >little known acts.

    	Yeah, I remember that place. Cantones.

    Neal

    

    re: .70
    
    Cantones, yes, that was the name of the place.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jim C.
    

    >>That Peter Dayton ep has Love at First Sight (well alright)! or
    >>whatever the song title, correct?  Nice find.
    
    That's the one! 
    
    I'm still on the lookout for old Sex Execs...I remember 
    really liking them at the time. Should be easy to find in 
    Boston. 
    
    "When I think of you, I think of sex. When I see
    it through, I'm glad you're my ex, my ex, myyyy ex."
    
                                      -Sex Execs
    
    -Tom

    I always got the Motors and New England mixed up  because Mark
    Parenteau used to rave about both.  And now to confuse matters further
    (and I promise to never stray from the topic again!)...weren;t there
    2 bands called the Motors?  One from England and one from Detroit?  And
    I always thought the love and Lonliness/Airport Motors were from
    Detroit.  Ah, never mind...
    
    dan
    

Weren't the [English] Motors a Bram Tchaikovsky/Sean Tyla spinoff of some kind?

    
    
    	What about the DRIVE.  Don't recall anyone mentioning
    	them.  I've seen them a bunch of times.  I knew one
    	of the drummers, Tony.  They made it to the MTV
    	basement tapes, and I believe they won too.
    
    	Gilley

    -1
    
    The DRIVE used to bore me to tears!
    
    The only band in Boston that was ever worth a rat's arse was THE RINGS!
    Period!
    
    After them, band like New Models, Athens/Gothem City, Rock Berlin The
    Movie (original lineup) got my votes for cool Boston bands.
    
    PS - Speaking of which, what are the following up to these days?!:
    
    - Rick Berlin
    
    - Casey Lindstrom
    
    - Lois Holcomb/Rick Campbell/Ross Anderson (Athens/Gothem City)
    
    ???

    What ever happened to Agent 99?  I just saw some old concert footage 
    of them recently (on Arlington Cable) and they seemed pretty good.
    
    Any info on where they've gone?
    
    -Scott

    how about OAK? anyone remember them dudes
    ??
    

Re .72:

I'm told that Walter Clay, the sommelier at Hamersley's Bistro
(and one of the best wine folks in town) was the lead singer
of the Sex Execs?

I wouldn't know for sure, since my sole familarity with the 
band is "My Ex."

    re .79
    
    Yup, the singer was Walter Clay. Didn't know about his bistro
    gig. Hmmm...They used to cover "Spill the Wine."
    
    -Tom

> how about OAK? anyone remember them dudes

Oh yeah! They were from Maine, led by Rick Pinette (who I believe is still
around in the Rick Pinette Band). They had a couple "hit" songs, "Set The
Night On Fire" and "King Of The Hill", and released two albums on Mecury.

I used to see them a lot at the Main Act in Lynn, MA. Good solid pop/rock
band!

alan

    
     Doesn't anybody remember Reddy Teddy?
    
     I have an album of theres , I believe it was produced by
    Maxanne Sartori? of WBCN.
    
     I can't believe I even remembered it myself.
    
     Paul W.

    
    Regarding The Incredible Two Man Band........
    
    
    I had the great priv of working with Bobby Lichtenfels, the original
    ITMB drummer right after he quit the band. I have one of their albums.
    
    Could the previous noter who mentioned Mick Spiros, the keyboardist,
    please post his whereabouts....
    
    Other Locals from the '70s
    
    Lovelace, The Bozo Rock Opera, The Dead End Kids, Live Lobster,
    Clamity Jane and Ellis Hall.
    
    Guy
    

    I forget where someone asked this question....I recall it *somewhere*
    in this conference....but I found out what Robert Ellis Orral is up to. 
    According to this week's Boston Phoenix, he's in Nashville, writing hit
    songs for the likes of Shenandoah and Carlene Carter (who dueted with
    him on his lone hit "I Just Couldn't Say No", back in the 80s).  
    
    RCA may give him a shot at another solo album, but this time it'll be
    country music.

    
    re. .63
    
     New England's drummer was Hirsch Gardner. He produced our last demo,
    and works a lot with Shy Boy.
    
    ChAoS
    

       <<< Note 121.84 by RGB::ROST "A distortion of the need to feed" >>>
                            -< Robert Ellis Orral >-

Well thanks for the info - It was I who asked and right here too.

one more thing - was he from the Boston area?  I seem to think he was....

thx
bob

    Mick Spiros from ITMB has recently (within the last two weeks) joined
    a band called Upper U.S. They will be performing at the Stadium Club in
    Framingham on Sunday night, Feb. 23rd, at a benefit for the Gulf War
    Vets. Also performing will be the Bobby Watson Band, Back Pages and
    another band whose name I don't recall, but will find out.
    
    Upper US is a new band who plays all originals. I heard them rehearse
    last night and I thought they sounded very good. That's the first time
    I've ever heard Mick on keyboards as I never saw the ITMB, and he is
    excellent!
    
    Suegene
    
    

    RE: PRIVATE LIGHTNING
    
    A great band indeed, my junior year in college I was in a band that
    played on the bill at Spree Day at SAC Park in Shrewsbury, a great gig:
    Pilgrim (bluegrass), Chaos (that was us, some of the school dudes who
    rehearsed for three months for the one gig), Crockett (Walter, his wife
    and Duke Levine) and Private Lightning. The bass player (forget his
    name) was there all day, checking out all the bands, I had a chat with
    him, they were all pretty cool folks, and they sounded great that day!!
    
    Now I'll have to find that LP.

    Looking through some old tapes and 45s yesterday, I came up with a
    couple more "where are they now" Boston bands:
    
    007 (later Dub 7): started out as a great ska band, then went more
    mainstream rock
    
    Schemers: these guys were from RI, actually (I think), great power-pop
    stuff, they won the Rumble one year
    
    
    						Brian
    

    re: private Lightning
    
    I was talking with my brother in law just last night. He has a
    pretty large record collection that he will be turning over to
    me. He has just as large CD collection now. We were talking about
    some of the local stuff he had and I was psyched when he mentioned
    Private Lightning. It's been a while since I've had a listen. Looking
    forward to it.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

re: Schemers

I think the lead singer/guitarist of the Schemers went on to join up with 
two members of the Red Rockers, and are now The Raindogs.

re: Private Lightning

Steve was the bass player, Eric was the keyboardist, Adam the singer, Patty
Van Ness was the violinist, and Paul Van Ness was the guitiarist. I forget 
the drummer's name. 

I used to work on their road crew back in 1980. They were all very nice
people. I had a demo tape of their second album which I thought was 
better than their first, but it was stolen when someone broke into my car
years ago (along with a U2 demo tape from the 'Joshua Tree' sessions, but 
that's another story!). Also on that tape was a version of "Physical Speed"
sung in French, which I loved! Wish I had that tape back.....

alan

Lou Miami and the Kosmetics,

Dogmatics,

B.F.D. (Baked Fresh Daily) - I had to do this one...


/J

    re: New Models
    
    Does anyone know if the New Models ever released any other
    material other than:
    
    Sight and Sound  (5 song E.p.)
    and
    Stranger In Disguise (12") b/w Colors
    
    ??????????????????????????????????????
    
    
    chUck

    Ah yes, "Physical Speed" was the title of the other
    big song I remember from Private Lightning.  Thanks
    to Alan Starr for jogging my memory; great tune.
    
    That tune was a big disappointment to me when I finally
    heard the album.  There was a great demo version that had
    been getting steady play on BCN.  In contrast, the album
    cut had lots of heavy guitars added to the mix; sounded
    overproduced and generic, burying the band's uniqueness
    imo.  Silly stuff too, like changing the line "I turn on
    my AM radio" to "I turn on my FM radio", I assume because
    FM stations wouldn't play something that mentioned (gasp!)
    AM radio.  Yeah, it's a little thing, but the original line
    evoked a specific image.  I suppose these things were
    considered good career moves at the time.
    
    /rick

    Re: .92
    
    The Dogmatics broke up after one of the twins in the band died in a
    motorcycle wreck.  His brother now is playing with Miss Xanna Don't.
    
    Saw them at the Rat many years ago, good band.				
    
    							Brian

    .94  I was just about to enter the same reply...I had been racking my
         brain for a week trying to remember Private Lightning's other
         "big song" (Song of the Kite was the first.)  Alan reminded me.
    
    Also Alan, it was you who mentioned the Schemers, right?  I had
    forgotten about them.  If I'm not confusing bands, they are the
    ones who had a single from @1984 that sounded a bit like Tom Petty
    to me.  Do you remember the name of it?
    
    Dan
    

    
    Thanks for the info regarding Mick Spiros.
    
    I wonder if he'll autograph my ITMB album :-).
    
    Guy
    

    Out of this whole string, one very cool band has been overlooked...
    
    KID MORROCO!
    
    You have just got to remember those quasi-punk/pop tunes from those
    thrilling days of 1979...
    
    All of your Love
    I don' wanna
    Radar Love
    
    Anyone remember this band??

I don't remember Kid Morocco, other than the name. But you mentioning 
quasi-punk bands reminded me of another band - Thundertrain! They were a
garage/metal/punk/NY Dolls-clone band. If you listen to their album, you 
can hear a direct relationship to the sound of LA metal sound of today 
(ie. Guns and Roses, Faster Pussycat, etc.) - cool stuff!

alan

    Alan,
    
    If you heard their stuff, you would know that you heard it over a
    decade ago!!
    
    I'll play you a tape sometime...

    Re: .57 , .59
    
    I actually heard some Peter Dayton on the radio this AM, when he was in
    La Peste.  The DJ asked some folks hanging out in the studio if they
    had ever heard of La Peste and none had.  Geez, when I moved up here in
    81 they were pretty hot stuff around here.  How soon they forget....8^) 
    8^)
    
    Anybody out there have any old compilation LPs like the Modern Method
    Wicked Good Time 1 and 2?  If you want to talk about forgotten bands,
    whew...  Another circa 1981 comp I own is a WCOZ sponsored thing that
    has Jon Butcher Axis, the Stompers, Charlie Farren in some band
    (Baloon?), etc., a good slice of the more mainstream acts of the time.
    
    Come to think of it, whatever happened to radio station sponsored
    compilations like that?  
    
    							Brian

    
    
	Yes, Kid M. (not to be confused with Kid Crash) were also on one of
    	them compilations, either "Rock Turns to Stone" or ..."Ten of a
    	Kind".  Both compilations are local must have's...Cavedogs,
    	Titanics, etc.
    
    	I was thinking up all those radio station and other comp. projects,
    	there were quite a lot of them and I still always see 'em in the
    	record bins so it's a great place for new-comers, etc.
    
    	I think the question about New Models a few back..they were also
    	on one of these compilations.  Please don't hold your breath but
    	I'll try to come back with the specific comp.
    
    	Yes, Charlie's former band was Balloon - Politcal Vertigo,
    	Politician, etc. I'll have to dig out some of the old stuff.
    
    	- Jim

There were several local compilations that I have, and was just listening to
this morning (this note reminded me of some of them!). 

There were two WCOZ albums, called 'The Best of The Boston Beat' (which was
the name of their local music show, hosted by Leslie Parementer). The
first had The Fools ("She Looks Alright In The Dark"), The Stompers "This Is
Rock And Roll"), Luna ("Hollywood"), and more I can't think of (maybe Johanna 
Wilde was one of them? And I think Willie Alexander too...).

The only one I remember offhand from the second one was The Smith Brothers,
and a song called "America". Balloon's "Politcal Vertigo" might have been
on this one too.

Then there was the 'Live At The Metro' album, with two songs each from
the New Models, the Lines, Private Lightning, Stompers, and two other bands.

And not to forget the 'Live At The Rat' album - I haven't listened to that 
one in quite a while, I forget most of the bands on there. But I think
Tom Dickie and the Deires was on there (remember "Downtown Talk"? Great song!)

alan

    
    	I'll try to fill in the 'blanks' some other time...
    
    		WCOZ Rock 'n' Roll Anthology series 
    		Two Years of Rock Hunting (WBRU) {Providence, RI}
    		Boston Rock and Roll Anthology series
    		Modern Method and WBCN series
    		Claws! {forget if radio associated}
    		Crawling from Within 
    
    		Most bands here are still active but...
    
    		Bands That Could be God (mentioned earlier)
    		Where's Stanton Park? {Stanton Park Records}
    		Here's Stanton Park 
    		
    		Use of the Headlock Dummy {Sound Museum}
    		Clan of the Clown            ""
    		Human Music
    		Ironside Management
    		....

    Can't forget the Throbbing Lobster comps, though the titles escape me.
    
    dan
    

  The old band Primary Colors, used to have DECcie Brian (or Steve?)
Kalinowski (sp?) in the early years.



  Other bands that come to mind are Three Colors, and The Museum Direktors.


/J

    
    	The note on Todd Rundgren nearly reminded me of one of the Boston
    	band's whose first album was produced by him but I can't recall
    	who.  I'm sure it will come to me.
    
    	Also, worth noting, in the compilation department, is "Boston
    	Does the Beatles" which is a double-LP, bands such as Beat
    	Surrender, Berlin Airlift, and many that I don't recall.
    
    	Ah, I just recalled what band it was, I think, it was the first
    	incarnation of Luna or Orchestra Luna.
    
    	- Jim

    
    
       Nobody's mentioned MELTDOWN!  Great band. SOngs on the radio
    about the same time as Luna and Private lightning -
    
     Rock On The Radio
     Life Of A Star
     No Win Situation

Re:

>>             Note 121.83 by GUCCI::GNOVELLO "Did *you* call me PAL?" 
>>             Note 121.87 by LMOADM::LEVIN "Suegene Levin"


I, too, am a big fan of ITMB - The Incredible Two Man Band.  I was
the Sound Engineer/Road Manager for 4 years, from 1976-1979.  In that
time, we put out 2 albums, "On My Way" (1976), and "ITMB II" (1978).
The group also had an 8 track tape from the mid-seventies.  It was
pretty similar to "On My Way", except for a few changes.  I have all
three as part of my collection, as well as a dozen or so live tapes
from clubs (remember the good old days when rock bands played clubs?).
 
I've been keeping contact with Mick Spiros on and off, and Bobby 
Lichtenfels as well.  Last time we spoke, Bob had been working at
Hewlett-Packard and hadn't pulled the old Zickos clear drum set out
of the cob webs but twice in 12 years since he stopped playing.  One
of the best rock drummers of all time too, very similar to John
Bonham of Led Zeppelin.  Bob was the only one to come close to Bonzo.

And of course Mick is similarly compared to Keith Emerson, for his
virtuosity on the keyboards, but it didn't stop there.  He played
bass pedals, trumpet, acoustic guitar, drums, and sang.  When he
played drums, Bobby played keyboards, only they switched without
the audience knowing.  Surely a far cry from today's rock bands.

I'm looking forward to seeing Mick and UPPER U.S. in Framingham on
Feb 23rd.  It's been a while.  He always joked about having a band
with that name (you know....uppa you a**) you had to be there, I guess.

I could talk about this forever, so I'll stop here.  If anyone's
interested in more, reply, and I'll write on.

Anthony

    
    wow has this note brought back memories.  i'll have to listen to my
    collection of pousette-dart records tonight.
    
    but whatabout the stompers?  haven't heard from them in a couple of
    years. saw robert ellis oral open for them in bedford nh.
    
    and don't forget the fools - anything new from them lately?

    RE; The Stompers
    
    The Stompers have return back to their original line-up after losing
    they keyboard players and the bassist.  I believe that they are still
    playing around Boston.
    
    the Fools have completely surrendered any control of their talent
    by becoming WBCN's pet project "the Stools", so they could sing songs
    about breasts.  I used to think this band was fun live, and they
    probably still are, but their latest music (as the Stools) is pathetic.
    
    IMHO, of course
    
    
    chUck

    Is Orchestra Luna still active ?  Did they ever release a record ?
    
    karl

     >>>>  The Stompers have return back to their original line-up .
    
    
    Gee thats too bad... 
    :*)
    
    		wendy o'   _who_hopes_she_doesnt_ever_have_to_sit_a_
    			stompers_show_again!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    

    
    	The Stompers put on an EXCELLENT show when I saw then at Sir
    	Morgan's Cove about a year ago or so ... rocked the house down,
    	IMO.
    
    	The Fools will be at The Zone in Mendon MA [right in front of
    	the Drive-In] this w'end ... 2/21, I believe.
    
    							GTI

    	
 	.112> 	Is Orchestra Luna still active?  
    
    		No.
    
      	.112> 	Did they ever release a record?
    
    	 	Yes, one self-titled record if I recall.
    

    
    The only time I ever saw The Stompers, I was working on the crew that
    set up their sound and lights, and they had such an attitude that I
    have avoided them since then.  Of course, this was when their record
    had just gotten big, and perhaps time has mellowed them.
    
    DFW

    RE. LAST
    
    RE: TIME ... NOPE!
    some tudes' (one reason i dont like them)
    My old band was supposed play with them, we got rained out...
    but anyways I jsut didnt like to way they treated everyone (bands)
    especially a woman....  very egotisical (sp?) 
    
    			wendy o'
    
    
    
    

    RE:  -  All relating to the Stompers.
    
    
    	The Stompers were probably the BEST club band this side of
    	the country.  The energy they show and the audience participation
    	is unbelievable.  I've been following (not lately though) these
    	guys for YEARS now.  The times up at the Cinema were the best.
    	Now that they have their original members, I'll have to check them
    	out.
    
    	As far as saying they have attitudes, I can agree with Sal Baglio
    	maybe, but as far as Steve Gilligan (bass) and Dave Freidman (keys),
    	they are probably the two nicest people I've ever met that are in a
    	well-known popular band.  As a matter of fact, when Steve and Dave
    	left the band I was pissed and stopped going to see them.  
    
    	Gilley	
    

    Give it up Gilley, Thats just your opinion :*)
    
    
    p.s suej says hiya!!!!
    
    	wendy o'
    

    
    
    	hiya suej, hiya wendy o'
    
    
    	RE: A few back
    
    		You can go one step further than taking out your
    		Pousette-Dart-Band tapes.  Just heard on the radio
    		that they will be appearing at Mr. Tipps this weekend.
    
    
    		Gilley

	What became/is happening with the Wishniaks from the Philadelphia area?

	They and about one or two other bands, Dr. Bombay possibly, on the
	Phil. / New York band compilation "You're Soaking In It" caught my
	interest...

	- Jim

	Although the nostalgic references here is fine as well as interesting 
	I was really hoping to hear more about your local favorites who have 
	yet to reach even their proper level of obscurity, as well as bands 
	currently with a strong local following or even without one that you 
	fell deserve more attention than they now get.

	For one example, along the lines of an extract from the April Rolling 
	Stone as listed by some notable people, Butch Vig, etc.

	Firstly the less unknown:

		Poster Children - Champaign, IL - recently at New Music 
						  Seminar in New York.

		Live - coming to Brandeis University as part of 'FNX show.

		Levellers - fairly well known in UK (I think)


	And then:

		Hitting Birth 	- Portland, Oregon
		Galen Herod 	- Phoenix
		Daisy 		- Athens - Michael Stipe produced.
		Chris Mars 	- former Replacements drummer
		Maggie's Dream 	- NY
		Opal Fox Quartet
		Disposal Heroes of Hiphoprisy - San Francisco.

	Noting location only as a point of reference....

	- Jim

	I've never been much for random purchasing of music or for stopping
	into clubs unknowing of the band who's playing because there's simply
	too much music I know I enjoy but sometimes they both	can turn out 
	to be good.

	One such case, was stopping into TT's (Cambridge, MA) a while back 
	and seeing Wide Spread Panic who I enjoyed a lot, a very interesting
	blend of original material.
	
	I haven't listened to the tape I picked up that night so I can't
	really say too much about their sound but even If I did we know
	how descriptions can be!

	I think they're from the Philadelphia area...please tell us more.

	- Jim
	

             <<< Note 121.123 by OLTRIX::ZAPPIA "railroad quirk" >>>
                             -< Wide Spread Panic >-

>	I think they're from the Philadelphia area...please tell us more.
>	- Jim

Hey Jim,  they are from Athens, GA and record on Capricorn.  T. Lavitz 
(ex and maybe every decade or so Dregs keyboardist) plays with them.  They
have 2 disks out.  Hard to describe them; a blend of a lot of different
influences (some dead styled jams, rem plus alot more).

The first disk is hard to find (although I live in NH and that may explain
that).

enjoy,
bob

    Capricorn will reissue the first Widespread Panic disc soon (it was
    supposed to be February but I haven't seen it), with a few additional
    tracks left off their newer disc.
    
    Scott
    

	The tape I got at the show was "Space Wrangler", is that one being 
	reissued or is it another one of theirs?

	Thanks,
	- Jim

    I heard that last night the Boston Music Awards were handed out, and
    some of the winners were:
    
    Female voc. - Bonnie Raitt
    Male voc. - James Taylor
    Rock group - Aerosmith
    Pop-rock group - Extreme
    Pop-rock song - "More Than Words" - Extreme
    Rock song - "Whole Hearted" - Extreme
    R&B group - Bill Biv Devo
    Rap - Markey Mark & the Funky Bunch
    
    K.C.

	This question might have made as much or more sense under the
	"Whatever happened..." note but I once asked under the same title
	in another conference and never got a response...

	Does anyone know whatever became of the guitarist from Planet Street, 
	a Boston area band circa 1985?  The band had at least one song that 
	got some attention, both in airplay and /legal actions entitled 
	"General Hospital".  The guitarist was also in a short-lived (as far 
	as I know) band called Mere Mortals.  I also recall him performing as 
	a street musician in Harvard Square in Cambridge.

	- Jim

    
    
    Anyone heard the band Lab 101 ?  Reviews?
    

    Has anyone heard of Lord Bane?  I saw them at Edible Rex on Sunday
    night, and I loved them!  They are playing again on the opening
    (reopening) night of The Channel (in Boston) on November 18th.  I'll
    surely be there.  Has anyone else seen them before?
    
    -danielle
    

    REPLY TO 121.31
    	Was Midnight Traveler the band that did the dynamite near letter
    perfect cover of "Green Grass & High Tides" by The Outlaws ? If so I
    tested one of my first 35mm cameras on them on the steps of BU. 
    	While we're on the subject, New Models, Face To Face & even 'Til
    Tuesday are (were) vastly underrated. New Models guitarist, 'Casey' was
    with a band called Shake The Faith for a while, but they're now gone as
    well, I think. Aimee Mann from 'Til...  has a group (called Aimee Mann)
    which includes ex 'Tues. drummer Mike Hausmann & they have new vinyl on
    the way March '93.
      	Does anyone know what happened to the Modes ? Did they ever record?
    I think they were from Malden or Medford area around 1984-1986. Solid
    songs & great harmonies.
    	How about Circus, & Manitoba (Leominster area), The Rings (Limbo Race),
     The Outlets (one album then oblivion), The Lifters, & about 10,000
    others ? -Paul 
    	                                  

    RE:121.63
    	New England put out 2 albums, the self titled debut containing the
    "hits", "Don't Ever Want To Lose You" & "Nothing To Fear". Their
    drummer, Hirsch Gardner works (as a drum instructor & studio guy) for 
    Daddy's Junky Music, I think. Todd Rundgren produced their first album.
    -Paul 

    RE:121.73
    	There were also 3 local bands called New England, in case you're
    not confused enough yet !! -Paul

    RE: 121.78
    	I saw Oak only twice & have their album which doesn't come close to
    their live show. Oh well............ -Paul

    
    On NPR's Freshair yesterday I heard a review of a new album out by a
    Boston band called Morphine. The album is called "Cure for Pain". The
    reviewer described them asa 3-piece band consisting of baritone sax,
    2-string bass and drums. Throughout the review parts of different tracks
    were played. These guys have a really cool sound. The bari and the bass
    work out some very compelling riffs. The sound is quite original. I was
    truly impressed.

    Anyone heard these guys?

    --Ron

    Where ya been Ron, these guys have been a round for a few years now,
    their first album "Good" came out in 91 or 92 on Accurate/Distortion
    (wotta great label name).
    
    The bassist/composer/singer is Mark Sandman who was also in Treat Her
    Right.  He uses only two strings on the bass (tuned in fifths for power
    chords) and a *bottleneck*.  The saxophonist (name escapes me now) has
    ties with the Boston modern jazz scene (I think he had been
    Either/Orchestra).  They switched drummers just before recording the
    new album for Ryko; Billy Conway of Treat Her Right had been the
    original drummer, he left but since came back.
    
    Anyway, these guys used to play free every Tuesday night in Cambridge
    in 91 and 92.  When they are in town, Sandman sometimes plays at the
    Plough and Stars in Camnbridge under the name "Mark Sandman Supergroup"
    which is Mark and whomever else he happens to invite down.
    
    These guys are highly recommended to those who are looking for
    something a little different in their rock diet.
    
    							Brian

    How did I know that you, Brain, would have the low down on these guys. I
    just don't get out enough. I do remember Treat Her Right. Hats off to
    this band for trying something different and pulling it off at that.
    Thanks for the info.

    --Ron

    somewhere in this note i think there is mention of a band that used to
    play in the Framingham, MA. area in the 70's...they were called the
    "Incredible Two Man Band"...or ITMB for short....i noticed in the paper
    that ITMB will be playing this weekend at the the El Morocco in
    Worcester and wondered if the band I remembered as ITMB is the same one
    in the advertisement.....did anyone else see this and/or does anyone
    know if this is the band that i think it is??...i remember them being
    great (course the entire 70's are a little hazy but...)and would love to 
    go check them out to see if my memory serves......any info.........../k

    
    	Has anyone heard of Agona Hardison?  I guess she sold out the
    	House of Blues in Cambridge a couple of weeks ago.  The Globe
    	had an article and a picture of her announcing her CD release.
    
    	I guess she's an R&B type artist, similar to Bonnie Raitt.
    
    	I happened to speak with her about 2 years ago at Acton Music
    	and she mentioned beginning to record so I guess it's finally
    	out.  She's from Stow, btw.
    
    	Did anyone happen to go?
    
    	Tom
    

    I was there. The music (to me) seemed bland with all the songs kinda
    blending into one another. Great voice and stage presence but the HoB's
    oversold the show and it was quite crowded.
    Paul Geary (of extreme fame) is handling her to some extent.
    
    
    Peter

    Has anybody heard of a local Boston band called The Nines?  Better yet,
    does anybody know when they might be playing?

    
    Has anyone heard of a local (Mass.) band named "Paradox Lost"?