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Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

35.0. "The Red Hot Chili Peppers" by REFINE::BARKER (They're Red Hot) Mon Nov 04 1991 19:12

    This note will be for discussions about, for and against the band 
    "The Red Hot Chili Peppers" , their members and individual projects as
    they may spring up.  I'll include the previous discussions from
    music_v3, as well as a very brief review of this weekend's concert.
    
    -Jesse Barker
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35.1previous discussions from v3REFINE::BARKERThey're Red HotMon Nov 04 1991 19:1475
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Note 1797.0                 The Red Hot Chili Peppers                  5 replies
REFINE::BARKER "They're Red Hot"                     13 lines  25-OCT-1991 08:11
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    Hi,
    
    	Couldn't find a topic in here on the "Red Hot Chili Peppers", so
    seeing as they've just come out (a month ago) with a new and very hot
    album, and that they're in town next week, I thought I'd start one.
    
    	I must admit that I didn't actually get into them until the
    "Mother's Milk" CD, but that was all I needed to invest my time and
    money to get into the rest of their stuff.  As far as I'm concerned,
    they're one of the funkiest, most playful, and hardest working bands
    out there.  Any comments on the topic are welcome, and appreciated.
    
    -Jesse
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SOLANA::BROWN_RO "Presents of mind"                   9 lines  25-OCT-1991 19:34
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    RHCP is a band that was formed as a side project of members of a couple
    of other bands out here in L.A.; I think one was Black Flag???? This
    was supposed to be the fun band, as opposed to the more serious groups
    that they were in, more hard-core punk outfits. The other bands folded
    and this remained.
    
    They have been around here for a long time, but have just become big
    nationally, or are becoming big, I guess.
    
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WRKSYS::MARKEY "Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging"   6 lines  25-OCT-1991 22:17
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    This month's Mix magazine features an interview of RHCP by the
    illustrious gadfly Bonzai. The interview was conducted at RHCP's
    recording studio/haunted house. It makes for interesting reading...
    
    Regards,
    Brian
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VCSESU::VCSESU::COOK "Uncongressional Mosh!"          3 lines  27-OCT-1991 09:05
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    It definitely wasn't Black Flag. That band was around for quite some
    time and featured Greg Ghinn on guitar and Henry Rollins on vocals.
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REFINE::BARKER "They're Red Hot"                     13 lines  28-OCT-1991 09:18
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    The band you're looking for is 'Fear'.  Flea played with fear back in
    around '82.  They were fronted by Lee Ving, who now does fairly
    extensive acting in movies (he was Mr. Body in 'Clue').  The original
    four - Flea, Anthony Kiedis, Hillel Slovak, and Jack Irons were
    apparently friends from High School.  Slovak died of an OD in '88, at
    which point Irons left the band as well, apparently because of
    Slovak's death.  John Frusciante came in on guitar.  He had followed
    them around L.A. a bit and they then got him an audition with
    'Thelonius Monster' (I think), saw his audition and snatched him up
    themselves.  I forget where Chad Smith (drums) came from, a pretty
    respectable funk outfit I think.  All this, plus some other interesting
    tidbits can be found in the February 1990 issue of SPIN.  It is marked
    by a picture of FLEA, complete with green mohawk, on the cover.
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PENUTS::HNELSON "Hoyt 275-3407 C/RDB/SQL/X/Motif"      1 line   2-NOV-1991 15:49
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    Did Fear to "New York's Alright, If You Like Saxaphones"? Great tune.
    
35.2brief concert reviewREFINE::BARKERThey're Red HotMon Nov 04 1991 19:2421
    I saw the RHCP show this past Friday night at the Walter Brown Arena. 
    What a hot show!  There were two opening bands, though one must have
    been added to the bill fairly close to showtime, as I had only heard of
    'Smashing Pumpkins' for opening act.  They were impressive.  I had only
    seen brief clips of them on MTV or some such outlet.  The second band,
    I can't name, but they weren't very memorable anyhow (IMHO).  The
    Chilis were in top form.  They played about an hour and a half.  It was
    a pretty well-balanced selection from across the five albums.  In the
    middle of the show, Chad Smith broke a bass drum head, at which point
    Flea and John Frusciante (on vocals for this one) broke out into an
    improptu version of 'Sweet Jane' - very respectable.  It turned out to
    be Anthony Kiedis' Birthday that night, so Flea got the entire crowd to
    sing 'Happy Birthday' and then a bunch of dancing girls (actually the
    roadies in drag) came out to dance for him during the next song.  It
    was a fun show, all-in-all.  I can't give you a song list, because I
    wasn't keeping track.
    
    -Jesse
    
    ps I saw Flea in a movie called 'The Blue Iguana'.  Really cheesy movie
    (or was it a parody), I only watched a few minutes.
35.3Hot Show!!NEMAIL::MERCIERLets make the water turn BlackWed Nov 06 1991 15:546
    I also caught the show at the Walter Brown Arena. They were hot that
    nite. The other band that played was Pearl Jam. I actually thoght they
    were more entertaining then the Smashing Pumpkins.(IMO)
    
    
    Bob
35.4Order?REFINE::BARKERThey're Red HotWed Nov 06 1991 16:0813
    What was the order actually?  I assumed that it was:
    
    1. Smashing Pumpkins
    
    2. Pearl Jam
    
    3. Red Hot Chili Peppers
    
    If that's not the order, then my opinions of the first two bands could
    be reversed, but regardless, the Chili's show gets a definite 'thumbs
    up'.
    
    -Jesse
35.5PROXY::MCCARRONItain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!Thu Nov 21 1991 16:207
    
    
    	Re: Jesse
    
    	Pearl Jam were 1st and Smashing Pumpkins were 2nd.
    
    
35.6Some great songs, some lukewarm onesCSC32::GL_JOHNSONExit light, Enter nightSat Nov 30 1991 05:2019
    
       "Blood Sugar Sex Magik", IMO, is a mixed bag.  Some of it
    is laid-back and subliminal, like the early releases("Freakey
    Styley" and the debut).  The rest is of the aggresive, funk-
    rock style of "Mothers Milk" and "Uplift Mofo.."  I like the 
    latter.  Songs like 'Power of Equality', 'Naked In The Rain',
    and 'The Greeting Song' are tight and sizzling.  The slower
    songs sound like demos in dire need of re-mixing and editing.  
    
       Overall, I like it.  Not as much as the previous 2, but
    since it's been 2 years since MM, it will do.
    
    
    						 glen j.
    
    
    p.s. - for those unaware, the Red Hots will be in Denver on 
           Sat. Dec. 14th.  
    
35.7Noise-mindedULYSSE::LEEUWENMon Dec 02 1991 07:2519
    Hajo there in the U.S.,
    
    	Here a reply from a Dutch madman working in DEC-Valbonne, France,
    	who is totally crazy about the Peppers. I have only their last
    	two albums (MM and RHSSCPM) and I have seen them twice in Holland 
    	(one is four or five years ago, with old drummer and guitarist,
    	real mad).
    	I think they are making the best noise in the world. The last
    	album, in which you hear the enourmous influance of Mr. Funk,
    	George Clinton, is now the best for me. It fresh, noisy once
    	and a while, it has ballads (Peppers?) and of course the dirty
    	textes. When I heard "I could have lied" for the first time, I
    	though I couldn't believe these were the Peppers. But when I
    	had translated the text, Yes Sir!!!!
    
    	I heard they go on touring in february, is this correct??
    
    	Andre van Leeuwen (Animal)
    
35.8Are ya dead???ULYSSE::LEEUWENWed Dec 18 1991 13:507
    !@#$%^&*(,
    
    	Is there anybody in/out there???????????????
    	I asked ya something, but no replies, did another Pepper die?
    	I just don't hope so, so now I am replying on myself!!!
    
    Madman
35.9still hereUSOPS::ZAPPIAlabel me, I'll label youWed Dec 18 1991 14:455
    
    	No, as far as I know nobody else has died.  They're still on tour
    	in the states now.
    
    	- Jim
35.10backREFINE::BARKERThey're Red HotThu Dec 19 1991 10:418
    Sorry, I was out for a while (class, vendor trips, etc.), but I'll try
    to keep up once again.  I hate to have to use set/seen, but 50+ notes a
    day is a little much to keep up with when you're away for a week at a
    time.
    
    - Jesse
    
    ps I wonder if Flea's daughter is still touring with them.
35.11regarding the "City of Angels..."CLIPR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed May 06 1992 20:157
    'been digging the RHCP song in rotation now: Under The Bridge.
    
    A very nice song indeed. I know it's probably not her, but the woman
    that joins the chorus near the end of the song sounds like Kate Bush to
    me...
    
    Brian
35.12RANGER::LEFEBVREPCs 'R UsThu May 07 1992 16:085
    Caught a blurb on the radio yesterday saying that the woman pictured on
    the cover of "Mother's Milk" is suing the band for using her
    reproduction.
    
    Mark.
35.13JFREFINE::BARKERI like to do drawrings.Thu May 07 1992 17:036
    re: a couple back
    
    The  screaching high vocals in most Chili songs are usually done by
    John Frusciante, the guitarist, at least live.
    
    -Jesse
35.14on three stations at the same time = overplayXCUSME::SCHROEDERLast chanceFri May 08 1992 17:059
    
    
    re: a couple back
    
      To me that song sounds like Tom Petty meets Led Zeppelin meets
    Janes Addiction. 
    
    
     - Steve S.
35.15CLIPR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingFri May 08 1992 17:217
    Well, I only listen to radio back and forth to work, a little over an
    hour a day. So, I tend to not get over-exposed to songs. If anything
    though, overplay is a function of the radio stations and not the band.
    A good song is a good song is a good song; although one can certainly
    get sick of a good song (I can name many I don't care to hear anymore).
    
    Brian
35.16radio ga-ga, radio goo-goo, radio blah-blah...XCUSME::SCHROEDERLast chanceFri May 08 1992 19:3517
    re. last one:
    
      I think it's a really good song. Like you said, radio stations cause 
    songs to be overplayed. Nirvana comes to mind (though I'm not tired of
    SLTS, I am sick of the other one they have on the radio right now).
    Unfortunately, by the time I go out and actually buy this album I
    probably won't listen to it due to - overplay - (U2 Achtung Baby comes
    to mind - bought it about 1 1/2 months ago and haven't listened to it
    yet). I think radio stations would actually boost their ratings if
    instead of playing one song from a group for 2 months they would play
    various cuts from the album. Of course, that would defeat the purpose
    of the single. 
    
     Steve S.
    
    
     
35.17Smell The CoffeeRICKS::ROSTElectric music for mind and bodyFri May 08 1992 20:019
    >I think radio stations would actually boost their ratings if
    >instead of playing one song from a group for 2 months they would play
    >various cuts from the album. 
    
    The success of stations with tight formats contradicts this one pretty
    well.  If it was really possible to boost rating by having more
    variety, we'd be deluged with variety all the time...
    
    						Brian
35.18RAVEN1::BLAIRWhat *is* it, Man?Fri May 08 1992 20:196
    
    	Whay is it so hard to get stations to play alternate cuts?  Seems
    	like everytime I specifically ask for a non-hit tune off a cd I
    	either get ignored or substituted with a hit single.  
    
    	-pat
35.19AIMHI::GILLISRedSox/WhiteSox in 92 ALCSWed May 13 1992 18:166
    Heard this morning on WBCN that John Frusciante (guitarist) has left
    the band.  They have cancelled their tour dates and are looking for
    a new guitarist.  Anyone have any more details on this?
    
    dan
    
35.20zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSALSA::MOELLERDo French dogs really say 'wooah'?Wed May 20 1992 19:138
    A few local stations have been playing and playing 'Under The Bridge'.
    
    Starts off okay, kinda stark.  Minor interest as the guitarist tries to
    do Jimi Hendrix playing softly.  Innocuous otherwise.. But about halfway 
    into the song the lead singer goes flat and never comes back into
    pitch.  Pretty lame effort.
    
    karl
35.21Looking for LyricsCSLALL::MKEAVENEYWed Nov 25 1992 10:267
    Would anyone out there have the words to "Give It Away Now"...
    or know where I might find them?
    
    Thanks!!
    
    -Meg-
    
35.22What Hits?TECRUS::TECRUS::ROSTLimo driver for Ringo StarrWed Nov 25 1992 13:224
    Anybody pick up the "What Hits" compilation yet?  I'm thinking I'd
    like a taste of these guys, is the song choice good?
    
    						Brian
35.23One reviewer's opinionTAMDNO::LAURENTHal Laurent @ MELWed Nov 25 1992 13:4814
re: .22

>    Anybody pick up the "What Hits" compilation yet?  I'm thinking I'd
>    like a taste of these guys, is the song choice good?
    
I haven't heard it myself, so take this with a pound of salt.

Our local (Baltimore) record reviewer, J.D. Considine (who also does
mini-reviews for Musician magazine) said something to the effect that
those who wonder why it took so long for the Chili Peppers to make it big
need only listen to this album...the old stuff is much poorer than the
new stuff.

-Hal
35.24GIAMEM::LEFEBVREPCG Product ManagementWed Nov 25 1992 15:3410
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    >need only listen to this album...the old stuff is much poorer than the
    >new stuff.
    
    I couldn't disagree more.  The earlier RHCP material is *much* better
    than the faux ballads and the rest of the new stuff.
    
    Mark.