Conference mr1pst::music

    I loathe Deaf Leopard, but saw a video last night while channel
    hopping.  I think the song was something deep like "Let's Get Rocked".
    
    Anyway, does anyone know who did the animation and 3-D graphics?  I
    suspect it may have been Silicon Graphics (they did _Total Recall_),
    but I didn't recognize the icons on the various screens they showed.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark.

	I can't answer your question but I like the video too.  The song,
	well, I can't say the same about it.

	- Jim

    When is the "Unplugged" program shown on MTV?  Mariah Carey is
    scheduled to appear, and I don't want to miss her.  By the way,
    her live version of "Got To Be There" is supposedly derived from
    "Unplugged".
    
    Thanks,
    Shawn

	Already aired, I caught the Jackson's cover {I'll Be There (?)} in 
	passing.

	- Jim

    Thanks for the info and title clarification.  It's ever more
    confusing now that 2 of the hottest screamers in pop have covered 
    the 2 Jackson 5 "...Be Theres"!!!
    
    Shawn

    
    
    	RE: Jim & Shawn
    
        
    	Actually, she's scheduled to be on this week.   At least that's
    what they said after Pearl Jam's performance last week. 
    
    	They repeat the show a couple of times.  I think the 1st airing
    is Wednesday, either 9 or 10pm.
    
    
    Paul

	I doubt it's a toll free number but does anyone know the Unplugged
	info number in NYC for up-coming shows, etc?

	The Pearl Jam show was enjoyable, it's been on at least twice so far.

	- Jim
	

    212-258-8000. this is MTV phone number....have fun with their
    Voice_mail from Hell switch board :')
    
    Chris

    The DEF Lep video was produced by the same people who did 'Money for
    Nothing' for Dire Straits.
    
    MArk

    Right, but what was the 3-D CAD platform?
    
    Mark.

>    When is the "Unplugged" program shown on MTV?  Mariah Carey is
>    scheduled to appear, and I don't want to miss her.

    But.... how will she move her mouth?            8)  8)

    does anyone know the name of the Paul Simon release from last year? Not
    the live one, but the one where the African Percussionists were first
    introduced.  I'm ordering it through MAXELL's frequent buyer program,
    and I need the title.  Any help would be appreciated...
    
          Mike

    Paul Simon just married Edie Brickell.  Go figure.
    \Gary

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    >Paul Simon just married Edie Brickell.  Go figure.
    
    Hopefully she won't influence him musically.
    
    Mark.

    Wasn't he involved in getting her and the band off the ground? Maybe
    produced them.                            

    thanx much :-) :-)

    O.k this may be a silly question but I figured here was the place to
    ask.
    
    How does the 'wrist band program' work - I mean after you've got it on?
    
    My sweetheart has one for Bruce (sorry all four are spoken for) for
    Saturday morning at the Centrum.  The tickets go on sale at 10:00 a.m.
    and even though we have the wrist band should we still get there real
    early to get the best seats possible or will our 'number be called'? 
    How does it work?
    
    Thanks,
    Joyce

My experience has been that the number is random and the line starts at a given
number and goes up to the last one then starts again at 1.  I'm not sure if
Centrum wrist bands are given out in order or not. 

The random numbers discourage people from hanging around to get wrist band #1.

Don't remove the wrist band.  If it has been tampered with you won't be able to
buy tickets.  This is to prevent you from selling a guaranteed place in line.

I would say that you probably want to arrive around 1 hour before tickets go on
sale.  You probably could arrive later, but getting there as late as 9 and
having  a decent place in line isn't too bad.  Hopefully it won't be raining...

Tim

    the line starts at 18501 so if you have that number then you are 1st in
    line they will more then likely go in blocks of say 25 at a time to
    make it easy on ticket salespeople....I'd say be there no later than
    930ish so you can find the @area your wristband is in......
    
    this wrist band DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL GET A TICKET it just gives you a
    place in line....see ya tomorrow morning :')
    
    Chris

    re: the last 2
    
    Thanks so much for the info - and yes - please no rain :^(
    
    We will plan on getting there around 9:00 - 9:30, with coffee in hand.
    
    Since poeple can only purchase tickets in blocks of 4 I believe we
    have a good shot at getting our 4  (I hope :^))
    
    Cya in line
    Joyce

    I don't want to sound like another Old Rock/New Rock note, but I think
    you get to a certain point in your life where you say that when you
    start having to wearing armbands and get tattooed and pay $40 a seat
    and stand out in the rain.....
    it's time to start checking out the local music scene, or upgrading the
    ol' Victrola system, or getting into the folk scene, or anything else.
    
    Don't get me wrong.  I've seen a lot of live acts and I love live
    music.  I've seen Hendrix and I've seen Pete Seeger and I saw Buddy guy
    last year.  Call me a party-pooper, but I'm just not into getting
    trampled to death like I used to!   :7)
    \Gary

    Re: last few
    
    I'm not into a lot of the acts that play the big venues, but it is a
    drag to think that the ones I *would* like to see (U2, Stones, Clapton,
    McCartney etc.) are too expensive and too tough to get tickets to.  I
    passed on Van Morrison this year when I found out that tickets would be
    over $30...after I pay the babysitter, tolls, parking, etc. I woulda
    been out $100!  The last two arena shows I went to (Clapton and Willie
    Nelson at the Worcester, MA Centrum in the early 80s) were very
    unsatisfying experiences.
    
    It's not just pop music, I wish I had a trust fund to buy BSO tickets,
    but I don't.  I thank God for the wide variety of free shows in this
    area that I can take my family to and expose my children to great music
    without becoming homeless in the process.
    
    I had to be an old fart, but the first arena show I went to was in
    1970, I paid $3 and the minimum wage at the time was $3.25.  Now the
    minimum wage is what, about $4-5, and concerts are over $25 a pop!
    
    							Brian
    
    P.S. Wish my band would get some of that good money  8^)  8^)

    Yeah, Brian, I remeber seeing Sly & The Family Stone back in 1969 or
    whatever at a big old hangar on the old Mitchell Field complex that is
    now some big Coliseum on Long Island.  Who remembers what I paid, but
    even getting tickets to see the Airplane at the Fillmore East on
    Thanksgiving 1970 did not require an act of congress!  I try to expose
    my kids to as much live music as they are old enough to get in to, but
    I feel bad for the people trying to see big name live acts today,
    myself included.
    \Gary

    Assuming that prices are the gating factor, then why would us
    thirty-somethings, who one would assume would have more money than your
    average teen, go to fewer concerts? Perhaps most of us have seen it
    all already and our boredom with "the scene" is what really predicates
    our unwillingness.
    
    Just thinking...
    
    Brian

	Yes ticket prices are certainly a factor as well as availability
	which in the case of the U2 seems to have been an act in itself.
	
	Back some years ago while working third shift it was easy to head 
	off in the morning to get tickets.  Yea, there's the charge lines 
	but I tend to stay away from those outlets.

	There's also the factors of intimacy, access to the concert in terms
	of how far you travel to a particular show, parking and other hassles 
	that can go with it, getting out of the parking lot or simply filing 
	out for that matter, not everyone can have good or even practical
	viewing seats, circular stages I guess help a bit, etc.

	I give the Guns n' Roses crew some credit for the satellite show from 
	Paris that they're doing.  It will give many people who would 
	otherwise not see them.  

	Any band who sells upwards of millions of records clearly only a 
	small percentage must get to see you live so this is a way of at
	least allowing many to see a show.  Although some of my past 
	experience of seeing an enjoyable large venue show followed by later
	viewing of a video of the same event hardly mange to capture the
	event or feeling.

	Those of you who mentioned opening your kids up to as much music as
	possible I think that's great.  

	In the cases of some bands who one month are playing a small club 
	then pass by shortly after to play a larger place usually then end
	up supporting some other more popular band in which case I can see
	why even some fans of the band would not have an interest to go,
	even excluding all the other factors especially if you've already
	seen them during an early leg of the tour.

	In the case of old favorites who might now play nothing but large 
	places it could be you've seen then enough times already, no longer 
	care for them, no longer like their new material or if you still do 
	would only go out of way to see them if they were to play a small 
	club.  I recall about 5 years ago when Clapton played the then Metro 
	in Boston, now Avalon ( I say that club has grown over the years,
	it used to be much smaller) it was easy to get up front of stage, hard
	to imagine even getting good reasonably priced tickets to anyone like
	this at a large show.

	There's not too many established	performers like this that do the 
	small venue thing but from time to time you might catch one.

	There's also more planning that tends to go into it larger shows
	where the small clubs you get head to a show that evening in many
	cases.

	As for teens and money, I know I has less debt then...
		
	- Jim

    I won't go to arena-type shows anymore.  There's plenty of good
    stuff playing in clubs where you can actually see the band and
    have decent sound. Of course, some of the club prices aren't that
    cheap anymore, either.
    
    It's actually tougher for the kids.  My S.O.'s 13 year old daughter
    has wonderfully eclectic taste in music (Beatles, Pink Floyd, Doors,
    Clapton, all the way up to Guns and Roses, Metallica, Extreme, and
    Nirvana).  Unfortunately, practically the only way she can see live
    music is at the big arena-type shows.  The clubs won't let her in 
    because she's underage.  There are a few bars in the area that have
    live music on weekend afternoons that will let us bring her in, but
    that's certainly the exception.
    
    -Hal
    

    re .24
    
    Small nit, I started working in 1973 at the minimum wage, it was
    $1.85 just raised from $1.65. In 1970 it wasn't unusual for house
    hold breadwinners to be making a decent wage at $3.25. I may be
    off by a few months and a couple of nickels but not that much.
    
    1972, Oakland Ca. $10.00 bought you Crosby Stills Nash and Young,
    Joe Walsh and Barnstorm, The Band with Bob Dylan as well as Jessie
    Collin Young. No problem walking up and buying tickets at the door.
    Clapton that same summer across the bay at the Cow Palace $3.00.
    I did get tickets ahead of time, the day before the show. No lines,
    no madness, the show did sell out.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

    Cross posted with permission from author...
    
    
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                                   -< The Centrum  >-
    
    LFT1: Not getting Springsteen Tickets
    
    LFT2: The Way the Centrum Sells Tickets
    
    LFT3: Thinking I had a chance for tickets when my wrist band less
    then 500 in number
    
    LFT4: The Centrum Selling less then 800 ticket at the box office
    for 2 concerts
    
    LFT5: The Centrum giving out 700 wristbands and only being able to
    sell tickets to less then 200 people, a sad way to treat the locals less
    then 5% sold at the Centrum Box office
    
    LFT6: The Centrum in General
    
    
    
    
    My 2 cents - DITTO and concerts or Over priced and Over-rated!
    
    Joyce

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    Ronnie Earl and the Broadcasters are headlining a blues lineup at
    Salisbury Beach (MA) this Sunday, June 14th.  Does anyone have any
    logistics available?  THis is an all-day outdoor affair for the benefit
    of AIDS, but I've lost the newspaper article.
    
    Thanks in advance for the help.
    
    Mark.
    

    
    Is there a record for the most amount of tracks from an album that all
    have made the Billboard top 10 list?
    
    my gut feeling says Michael Jackson must be considered.
    
    This question was thought of after hearing of Amy Grant's 5th track
    climbing the charts.  I know the Police released alot of song off of
    Synchonicity, too.
    
    

    
    	Cindy Lauper had 4 or 5 songs that hit #1 off of "She's So Un-
    	usual".
    
    	Michael's Thriller is definitely a possibility, although I'd
    	have a hard time naming the songs off of it.  I'll try:
    
    	"Thriller"
    	"Beat It"
    	"Billie Jean"
    	"PYT" [I think this one did pretty good]
    
    							GTI
    

    Micheal's _Thiller_, Springsteen's _Born_In_the_USA_ and George
    Micheal's first solo album (the name I can't remember) all scored 7
    singles in the top ten.  Micheal, sister Janet, and Madonna have all
    scored 5 top fives from a single album.
    
    As for Cindy Lauper, _She's_So_Unusual_ was successful in producing top
    10's, but If my memory isn't fading in old age, "time after time" was
    the *only* Billboard #1 on the record.
    
    later,
    
    douglas

    
    
    re: last few
    
    
     How did Def Lepard fare with thier last album. Seems like everytime
    you turned around another song was being released. The Cars also had
    that one album (Hello Again) that was soaked for singles.
    
    
    ChAoS
    

    
    	The Cars' "Heartbeat City" had:
    
    	"You Might Think"
    	"Drive"
    	"Magic"
    
    	for hits.  I think that was it, although I would've picked a few
    	other songs as being the best on the album.
    
    	And thanks for the correction on the Cyndi Lauper album.  I had
    	thought it did better than it actually did.
    
    							GTI
    

    The thing I find is, "they" (the Powers-That-Be) don't even wait for
    the buzz of a song to die down before they release another.  Paula
    Abdul's first album released "Forever Your Girl", "Straight Up",
    "Opposites Attract", "The Way That You Love Me" and "Cold Hearted" all
    in a relatively short amount of time.  Compare the time between those
    releases to the time between released from "Thriller".  I believe THOSE
    were stretched out for almost 2 years (or maybe it just seemed it).
    
    When did "We Can't Dance" come out?  That album already has _3_
    releases.
    
    Get the idea?
    
    K.C.

    Though the singles didn't fare too well, Meatloaf's "Bat out of Hell"
    album must rate as the most soaked for singles - the entire album is
    available on single...
    
    Nick

    
    	M.J's "BAD" Cd did better than "thriller" believe it or not...don'y
    know how many single hit number one...but at least 7 I think.
    
    B.A.

    RE: Last few

    What's single and what you hear on the radio are often two different
    things.  Though you made have heard every song on the Meatloaf album, I
    believe that only 3 singles were actually release.  If memory server, I
    believe Stevie Wonder's "Isn't She Lovely" was never a single... just
    a real popular album cut.

    It is to the record companies advantage to release only a few singles
    from a record, but have a lot of the cuts receive airplay.  This
    stimulates more album sales if the only way to get the song is by
    buying the entire album.  If you were a record company which would you
    rather sell a million singles or a million albums?... oh pardon me, dumb
    question!  In the case of Janet Jackson's _Rhythm_Nation_, I read that
    a decision was made not to release any more tracks as singles to the
    public, because after 6 or 7 singles the return on investment of
    pressing a new single was not enough to warrant the addition (if any)
    album sales that would be generated.

    As for the duration of time between single release, I've noticed of
    over the last year that "stacking singles"  (releasing 2 singles almost
    simultaneously) has been a lot more prevalent, for instance,
    Prince, U2, Hammer, etc.  the explanation I read for why Prince did it
    (beside the fact that he's a desperate artist past his prime... but hey
    we don't have to get into that) was to promote the two singles to
    different markets.  For instance, "Get Off" was aimed at (so called)
    Black radio, while "Cream" was targeted at Pop/Top 40 radio.  This
    makes sense.. with both demographic (yuck!) segments marching to the
    record store at the same time, the album sales would happen much
    quicker and stronger than if the singles were marketed in some sort of
    disjointed fashion.

    remember marketing is everything in the record business or do I need to
    remind you that Milli Vannili sold 10 Million records...


    RE: B.A.

    _BAD_ did better than _Thriller_ in respect to the fact that the first
    five songs from _BAD_ chart to #1 in the U.S.  However, the 6th single
    "Another Part of Me" failed to make it into the top 10.  This ended
    Mike's streak of top 10's at 17 in a row.  In the end _BAD_ only produced
    6 top 10's as opposed to the 7 top 10's from _Thriller_.
    
    NOTE:  "Leave Me Alone" from Mike's _BAD_ was never a single.  they
    released the video to MTV et al to try and cash in on additional album
    sales.
    
    later,

    douglas

    I can think of two other albums that had a ton of hits from them:
    
    	"Sports" - Huey Lewis & the News
    	    
    	"Forever Your Girl" - Paula Abdul

    -2,
    
    Yeah, "Leave me alone" is on the Cd version of BAD...
    
    B.A_I_knew_it_sold_a_bunch!
    

    
    	RE: KC
    
    	Not sure which side you're taking, but I'd rather hear 2 or 3
    	singles that are released at the same time than have my brain
    	saturated by 1 single at a time.  At least this way the songs
    	only appear 1/4 as often in the typical "new rotation" that's
    	prevalent in Top-40 radio as they would otherwise.
    
    	True, the artist appears just as often, but for different songs.
    
    							GTI

It feels like "singles" are "released" just to get on the playlist of radio
stations, not to sell singles.  "Here's the new single from Whoosy Whatsit's
album" when the album has been out a year.

#1 record don't mean much.  Beach Boys never had one.  Chuck Berry never had 
one till "My Ding-a-ling".  S/SGT Barry Sadler had one of the biggest #1 
records of all time.

    
    Nit..
    
    	A single is not a single if is has *two* sides :*)
    
    	Elvis had a few double-sided *hits* along with a few others...
    
    B.A.

    Why Don't we Get Drunk and Screw was originally on the B-side of a
    Buffett 45 single.  Tim/Jim, what was side A?  I ferget.
    
    Capt. Scott

    Re: last few
    
    From Elvis Pressley to Elvis Hitler, the way "hits" were classified
    changed quite a bit.  when I talk about hits, I'm generally referring
    to a song that appears on some national charting magazine (e.g,
    Billboard, Cashbox, Record World, etc.).  I can speak mostly from my
    experience with Billboard.  The Hot 100 in Billboard is a song chart,
    not a singles chart, that is compiled from rankings of sales and
    airplay.  Usually a song cannot score very high on the chart without
    both components (sales and airplay) being very strong.  BTW, the
    current method of ranking songs on the Billboard Hot 100 has changed
    within the last year, but the basic premise remains the same.  (Note:
    that the Billboard Country Chart is *airplay only*.  Not surprisingly,
    most country artist not longer release singles to the public to promote
    albums)
    
    Back in the Elvis Pressley days you had radio stations eager for the
    Rock'n'Roll product playing as much of it as possible.  thus airplay of
    both sides of the single resulted in lots of double-sided hit
    singles. As more rock product became available (circa 1960's & 70's),
    the radio program director had a wider variety of artist to chose from
    and thus airplay of B-sides generally fell into the dumper.  This was
    also before FM and those wonderful AOR stations that played whole album
    sides appeared on the scene and changed the name of the game.
    
    Occasionally, today, a single's B-side will accrue enough airplay to
    chart with a life of it's own.  for instance Prince's "Hot Thang" or
    Paula Abdul's "Cold Hearted".
         
    later,
    
    douglas

    Other albums that have had a bunch of top ten singles:
    
    Carole King         Tapestry
    Debbie Gibson       Out of the Blue
    Wilson Philips	Wilson Philips
    
    Just goes to show that if you find a formula and record the same song
    sideways, you can have a bunch of hits in quick succession.
    
    A related topic might be how many groups have released a follow up hit
    single that has an almost identical chord sequence and melody to the
    original song.  For example:
    
    The Drifters    Under the Boardwalk, followed by Sand in My Shoes
    
    The Chiffons    Sweet Talkin Guy, followed by Out of This World
    

    re .48 
    
    > A related topic might be how many groups have released a follow up hit
    > single that has an almost identical chord sequence and melody to the
    > original song.  For example:
    
    > The Drifters    Under the Boardwalk, followed by Sand in My Shoes
    
    > The Chiffons    Sweet Talkin Guy, followed by Out of This World
    
    Not very difficult to fathom really, since during the time the Drifters
    and Chiffons (among others) were popular, there were effectively 3
    chord progressions ever used: I-IV-V, I-vi-ii-V, and I-vi-IV-V.  Think
    about it.
    
    -Jesse

    Greetings-
    
    My speakers make me sad.  It's time for a new pair.  I wonder if I
    might solicit some advice as to which speakers I should buy.
    
    - $200-$250/pair price range
    - looking for good sound, not huge speaker cabinets
    - I listen to blues, jazz, rock, classical, reggae . . .
    - I only crank it up *sometimes* (y'know, you get in that MOOD)
    
    Thanks & Peace,
    David

    
    You may find ::AUDIO a better locale for this type of question.
    
    Notes> ADD ENTRY VAXWRK::AUDIO 
    
    Tim / MUSIC Moderator
    

    
    
    
    Does anyone know who does the song
    
    
    		"GET ALONG"
    
    
    It has kind of a AC/DC sound to it.  Gets air play on FNX and AAF
    ocassionaly.  It's probably about 5-7 years old?

    Come Along -- Salty Dog...
    
    

>                    <<< Note 224.52 by CSLALL::MKEAVENEY >>>
>                            -< Who does GET ALONG? >-

    
Let's see, that would be Gene Autry, wouldn't it?  "Whoopie ti yi yo, get along
little dogies..."

Bob

I would like to have addresses of shops where to buy in US via mail.

I'm interested in contacting shops that send catalogs and offer lists
(Blues, Rock and Black) at regular time.

Thanks,

Tonino

A friend asked me if I could find out when and where Dwight Yoakum is
playing in and around the Boston area (he thinks he heard he'd be here
soon....)

any help? 
thanks!
bob 

Anyone remember John Parr? He did the theme to St Elmo's Fire.
He also had 1 other hit single. What was it?

thanks
daryll

> Anyone remember John Parr? He did the theme to St Elmo's Fire.
> He also had 1 other hit single. What was it?

"Naughty Naughty".

alan

    
    	That's all he did, huh?  I thought there was another one from the
    	"Naughty Naughty" album [or whatever the title was ... I have the
    	tape, but haven't even seen it in over a year, never mind listen-
    	ed to it].
    
    							GTI
    

    Parr=DeLuxe_Poseur.

   Has anyone else had this experience recently?  I received a "complimentary"
   copy of _Musician_ magazine in the mail, with a card saying something to
   the effect of, "Gee, our computer has been all screwed up recently, and we
   think you may have sent in an order for a subscription (I hadn't), so
   here's a free copy.  If you like it, let us know."  A month later I got a
   bill from them for a year's subscription.  Although they did give the
   option of "just write 'cancel' on the bill and return it if you don't want
   it" it struck me as just short of mail fraud.  So has this happened to
   anyone else recently?

   Thanks,

   -- Sam
   

    
    Their not the only magazine to pull that. Consumer Reports does the
    same thing.
    
    -prc

    
    Those sneaky fellas...
    

    Musician pulled the same stunt with me.  Needless to say I wasn't 
    impressed when a bill showed up in my mailbox last night.  
    
    This may be a bit of a soapbox but I don't believe I should have to put
    any effort into canceling a subscription that I never signed up for in
    the first place.  
    
    Mike

    If they sent an invoice for unsolicited material, I think it *is* indeed
    mail fraud. I think that practice stinks to high heaven. I'll think
    twice before I buy another copy.

    
    > If they sent an invoice for unsolicited material, I think it *is* indeed
    > mail fraud. I think that practice stinks to high heaven. I'll think
    > twice before I buy another copy.
    
    I thought the laws on this were pretty clear, maybe I'm mistaken.  I
    thought that any solicitation required a pro-active action on your
    part to be complete.  And that any solicitation that required a
    pro-active action to cancel or nullify a sale was illegal, and that
    most of the bills that sounded like you needed to cancel to not get a
    bill were garbage and you could throw them away.
    
    I.e. you don't have to do anything to cancel a bill on the types of
         solicitation talked about here.  You simply don't have a bill in
         the eyes of the law.
    
    - Sean

    
    	I used to be in a record/cd club that did that.
    	I kept getting cd's sent to me , Micheal Jackson - Whitney Houston
    ect and argued till I was blue in the face with them about them sending
    me stuff I didn't want - I just gave them back to the postman and quit
    the club - I would have stayed in the club if I didn't have to put up
    with that.

    
    That's different than what they're saying, unless I misunderstood.
    
    You *joined* a club.  They asked, you said "yes," and the rules were
    that they'd send you stuff that you would have to pay for unless you
    sent it back.  Stinky set-up, but you did join.
    
    They sound like they're talking about getting mail from mags that say
    "Here, you're subscribed, cancel if you don't want the bill."  That's
    illegal, I think, and I'm betting that there's weasel-words hidden
    somewhere in the literature that tells them they're not really bound
    (even though the mags want them to think they are).
    
    - Sean

    I agree that legally there was no contract, but that's not going to stop
    them from sending you invoice after invoice until they threaten to and
    then put it into the hands of a collector. Ignoring the bills, though
    one is under no obligation to do otherwise, isn't going to necessarily
    make them stop. If you ask me, their position of acting as though there
    is contract, which is what they seem to be doing, is deceitful and
    fraudulent. And I'd bet the AG would agree.

    --Ron

   Yes, as far as I know, what has been stated regarding unsolicited-then-
   billed-for material is correct.  Damn, should've thought of that before
   I returned the bill with "cancel" on it.  :-)

   And also yes, I believe the opinion on the record/CD club is correct,
   too.  You sign a contract when you sign up for the club.  Even Columbia
   House does this.  "We're going to send you this CD in two weeks.  If you
   DON'T want it return this card now."

   Thanks for clarifying and reinforcing my opinion.

   -- Sam
   

    I had something similar happen to me.  
    
    I play in a lot of USVBA volleyball tournaments.  Recently companies
    have started to do a fair amount of marketing at tournaments.  They
    bring products, give out samples, etc for folks to look at.
    
    They also run contests.  In many of these tournaments, your contest
    entry form was one of those insert subscription cards that every
    magazine out there seem to stuff into every issue.  This one was
    for Volleyball magazine.
    
    We were assured that the cards would not be sent to the magazine but
    used merely as "entry forms" which were picked out of the box (the
    winners won stuff like towels, sneakers, ice packs, etc.)
    
    About 10 months ago, I started getting issues of the magazine.  I never
    paid and the notices started getting nasty and threatening.  So I sent
    a note back to them about 4 months ago saying "I never subscribed" and
    the issues stopped coming and I haven't heard from them since but it
    occurred to me that they might well have a card that I filled out.
    
    	db

	Hi music fans,
	
	Who is the "M" in A&M records?
	
	Jay

    Al Martino maybe ??

    Re. .73
    
    A&M Records was named for Herb Alpert (of the Tijuana Brass fame) and
    Jerry Moss - I believe JM was Herb's producer.
    
    						--Eric--

	Thanks,
	
	I just dragged out the vinyls of old TJB stuff. Whatta trip.
	It brought up the question about A&M. Herb's producer is what I
	remember, but I couldn't recall his name.
	
	thanks, Eric.
	
	Jay

    We have quite a collection of rock and roll 45s from the 50s that we
    are considering selling.  What is the best way to go about this? 
    Should we find a dealer, sell privately, or go through a record store 
    that sells second-hand stuff?