[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

469.0. "Don McLean" by CUPMK::T_THEO (Music makes me smile.) Tue Aug 03 1993 19:47

    
    So whattayathink of Don McLean?  
    
    Tim
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
469.1looking at the overwhelming response this note has receivedOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUI'm exhausted from lovin so wellWed Aug 04 1993 17:178
    
    I guess there isn't much to think about ;-)
    
    He is a true American Pie though ...
    
    Lale
    The True Peach
    
469.2AD::FLATTERYWed Aug 04 1993 17:472
    ...and may i add, if i ever hear that song again, i will probably run
    screaming into the night.....................;')......./k
469.3CUPMK::T_THEOMusic makes me smile.Wed Aug 04 1993 17:5913
    
    I didn't imagine this topic would stir too much activity, but he does
    have more that one tune to his credit.  I was trying to come up with
    a decent segue to my real reason for creating the basenote. 8)
    
    I'm looking for an album of his on CD format...  Having already set a
    fire in the CDSWAP Notefile, I figured I try here as well. 8) Unfortunately
    I don't know the title (Tapestry?), but it should contain two songs.  
    "On the Amazon" and "Onomatopoeia".  
     
    Anyone?
    
    Tim
469.4overratedVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsWed Aug 04 1993 18:185
    re .2, me, too!!  Definitely overplayed!  Plus, I never really liked it
    in the first place.
    
    Lorna
    
469.5THEBAY::CHABANEDSpasticus DyslexicusWed Aug 04 1993 19:315
    
     The album with "Amazon" is titled simply "Don McLean"
    Onomatopoeia is a Todd Rundgren Song.
    
    
469.6TAMDNO::LAURENTHal Laurent @ MELWed Aug 04 1993 19:377
re: .5
    
>    Onomatopoeia is a Todd Rundgren Song.
    
John Prine also did a song by that name.

-Hal
469.7CUPMK::T_THEOMusic makes me smile.Wed Aug 04 1993 19:4512
    
    I have the album...  someone I work with here said it was called
    Tapestry.  Since I didn't know for sure, I couldn't dispute it.  
    Onomatopoeia may be a Todd Rundgren song, but it's on the Don McLean
    album I mentioned.  
    
    Problem is, I can count the number of times I've used my turn in the 
    past year on one hand and still have digits left. 8)  I want it on CD.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tim 
469.8i suppose it could have been referencing the 'Beast"....AD::FLATTERYWed Aug 04 1993 20:043
    ..your  right....american pie isn't the only song don mclean ever
    did...didn't he also do that other 'great' song "vincent"...or as i refer 
    to it as 'music to slash your wrists by'.........;'))............./k
469.9Starry starry aaarghhh...ULYSSE::MILDERNihil obstatThu Aug 05 1993 11:006
    
    .8 - this "Vincent" song... If van Gogh had lived long enough 
         I'm sure he would have cut off his other ear as well :-)
    
    -maarten.
    
469.10And now, an opposing viewpointMSBCS::ASHFORTHThu Aug 05 1993 11:3423
Re: McLean-bashing (lighthearted though it may be)

Personally, I think Don McLean is an extremely talented songwriter, who was
simply unlucky enough to have two songs which made the "play it until it's
dead" list. Both "Vincent" and "American Pie" have been overplayed to such a
degree that it almost demands a new word- I'd be tempted to run the offending
turntables with nothing on them and listen for a ghostly whisper of the words,
to see if their electrical patterns have become imprinted on the audio cables.

Still, when I hear these songs, I recognize the reaction which comes from
the "Oh no, not again!" side, and can with a bit 'o effort recapture the
pensive melancholy which is captured (IMHO) so well in both songs. "Vincent"
does a good job of putting into words a sense of utter isolation, the "stranger
in a strange land" syndrome. "American Pie" is a snapshot of the moment in time
(represented by different things to different people) when the US no longer
saw itself as pure and noble, and symbolically "lost its innocence."

The above paragraph is my own interpretation, your mileage may vary. I just
wanted to attempt to give Don his due as the excellent songwriter which I feel
he is. (If his voice hadn't been so durned mellow, he probably wouldn't have
fallen into the overplay pit!)

Bob
469.11Suffer for your sanityOSLACT::HENRIKWGood news is a bad omenThu Aug 05 1993 12:456
    Why blame the artists for radio stations overplaying their songs?
    What if "And I love you so" had been as overplayed? Then we'd
    really have a reason for cutting ears off! (What happened to the
    bashing topic anyway?)
    
    Henrik
469.12AD::FLATTERYThu Aug 05 1993 14:154
    ...i dont' believe i was bashing him, i was just stating a fact..i will
    run screaming into the night if i ever hear that tune again...which
    says nothing about his talent, just the effect those tunes have on
    me......./k
469.13once too manyVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsThu Aug 05 1993 14:315
    re .12, and you won't be alone as you run screaming into the night,
    either.   :-)
    
    Lorna
    
469.14THEBAY::CHABANEDSpasticus DyslexicusThu Aug 05 1993 18:016
    
    Personally, I like his "Playin' Favorites" album of Bluegrass
    standards.
    
    -Ed
    
469.15yeow!BSS::STPALY::J_KUHN$rally run awayFri Aug 13 1993 22:075
    Course the ultimate version of American Pie is on the re-issue 
    (I'm not kidding, its out) CD of the Brady Bunch 'Have a beautiful
    day' album. You wanna talk 'run screaming into the night', this puppy will
    do it.
    
469.16COMET::LEVETTThu Sep 02 1993 16:593
    I liked his version of Roy Orbison's "Cryin'"
    
    S.
469.17good songs are easy to likeCSLALL::WEWINGThu Sep 02 1993 17:3311
    >>>I liked his version of Roy Orbison's "Cryin'"
    
    what about k.d. lang's?
    
    sometimes a song is so good that it is difficult to
    do a bad version.
    
    oops, forgot about michael bolton and 'when a man loves a woman'
    ;-(
    
    willie
469.18LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Thu Sep 02 1993 17:449
>    oops, forgot about michael bolton and 'when a man loves a woman'

    (as long as you brought it up) You mean the one with the NEEDLESS KEY
    MODULATION. Jeez, I hate that. Ever since Stevie Wonder did it in "My
    Cherie Amore", it's been copied. I can just see the guys in the studio
    control room the first time they hear the tune with the modulation in
    it. "Oh yeah. Yup. It's a hit. We're there."

    Talk about another contrivence...
469.19PENUTS::DDESMAISONSThu Sep 02 1993 20:026
>    oops, forgot about michael bolton and 'when a man loves a woman'


	Yeah, that was a real shame.  A timeless classic raped
	by "Get-a-haircut" Bolton.    
469.20michael b. and kenny g. - separated at birth?CSLALL::WEWINGThu Sep 02 1993 20:141
    
469.21Don McleanCSLALL::MDOYLEThu Sep 16 1993 18:349
    I think it is too bad that because his two more popular songs were
    so overplayed that his other songs (which personally I like many of)
    suffer or aren't even concidered to be listened to. I find his other 
    songs on the American Pie tape rather relaxing and enjoyable....with
    the exception of Babylon (sp).....Empty Chairs and Winterwood are 
    my favorites...Does he have many more albulms or just Don McLean and
    American Pie???                               
    
                                                   mary
469.22CrossroadHGRD01::STEVELIUWed Oct 20 1993 10:488
    
    RE: .21
    
    I think "Crossroad" is a classic and the most provoking, go back
    and replay the track tonight, hum, it's great beyond description.
    
    sl.
    
469.23Request for Lyrics (or should this go into 15.* ?)MARVA2::POWELLArranging bits for a living...Fri Sep 16 1994 15:422
    Can anyone please supply me with the lyrics of "American Pie"?
    Thanks
469.24PCCAD::RICHARDJLiving With A Honky Tonk AttitudeFri Sep 16 1994 16:025
    RE:23

    And while your at it, could someone explain what heck the lyrics mean ?
    
     Jim
469.25Imagine if he turned out to be with Elvis on GanymedeRNDHSE::WALLShow me, don't tell meFri Sep 16 1994 16:056
    
    re: .24
    
    It means Don McLean took the death of Buddy Holly really hard.
    
    DFW
469.26TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPFri Sep 16 1994 16:528
re: .24

>    And while your at it, could someone explain what heck the lyrics mean ?
    
Don Mclean has been quoted as saying something to the effect of "It means
I don't ever have to work again if I don't want to."

-Hal
469.27Stop him before he...LEDS::BURATIEat at Joe'sFri Sep 16 1994 19:331
Thank God for that.