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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

650.0. "Art Rock" by CADSYS::CHAMPIGNY () Fri Jun 24 1994 18:13

Perhaps this isn't appropriate in an Alternative Music forum, but is there anyone out
there interested in progressive music a la Genesis, Matching Mole, Galadriel, Edgar Allen Poe,
Devil Doll, etc.  There doesn't seem to be any place to discuss this genre on EasyNotes.
If there are no serious objections, perhaps this topic could be reserved for the purpose.
Internet already has an excellent usergroup called alt.music.progressive and a weekly e-mag
called Gibraltar.

Any comments, or should I trash the idea completely?

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650.1We're Not In Kansas Anymore...CADSYS::CHAMPIGNYFri Jun 24 1994 18:164
Whoa...sorry about that.  In my topic note I mistakenly believed I was on GOES11::RADIO_RADIO.
In that case, I think this would be a prime conference to start this topic.  Let's get some
dialog going!

650.2LEZAH::CLARKFri Jun 24 1994 23:1717
  I assert, just for the heck of it, that the most interesting music to come
  out of the late 60s (er) genesis of art rock were the early efforts of
  
    Pink Floyd
    Velvet Underground
    Frank Zappa
    
  and that not too much that you would classify "art rock" [which has
  something to do with being self-consciously arty or avant while retaining
  instrumentation and pulse from rock] since then has surpassed those guys,
  musically.

  Just thought I'd run this rank generalization up the flagpole.
  
  (Oh BTW, .0 was near impossible to read on my 80-column screen...
  Fortunately, all I needed was the title "Art rock" to form an opinion. 8)
     - Jay
650.3Art? Rock?VAOP28::RiceIt can't happen hereFri Jun 24 1994 23:314
Is Capt. Beefheart Art Rock? If so, he roolz. 

josh
650.4Art for Art's sake.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Jun 27 1994 11:445
    personally, I've enjoyed Art Carney's efforts...
    
    :^)
    
    wise-guy_mac
650.5WEORG::ROGOFFBarry Rogoff, IDC, ZKO2-1/R34, 381-2957Fri Jul 01 1994 17:3521
I used to get a prog-rock newsletter. Can't remember the name but the
motto was something like "We know progressive rock when we hear it."
It had articles on:

	Camel
	Emerson, Lake & Palmer
	Genesis
	Gentle Giant
	Gong
	Happy the Man
	Husker-Du
	King Crimson
	Marillion
	Pink Floyd
	Renaissance
	Yes

and many others, including spin-offs and solo albums by current and
former band members.

Barry
650.6STKAI1::VAKTMASTERITduhTue Jul 05 1994 12:463
650.7Could it be "Exposure" or "Gibralter"?DREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightTue Jul 05 1994 13:4325
    > I used to get a prog-rock newsletter. Can't remember the name but the
    > motto was something like "We know progressive rock when we hear it." It
    > had articles on:
    
    Could what you're referring to be "Exposure"?
    
    Apparently there's an Internet address for information about it:
    
    			wings@holonet.net
    
    I think there's also an electronic newsletter called Gibralter
    which also has a I-net mail target:
    
    			gib@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
    
    I don't either of these things, but a friend of mine who is very big
    into Prog-rock gave me these references.   My friend, Dan Barrett,
    frequently writes articles on the genre in various magazines including
    Keyboard.  If it's not either of these two, he might be able to help
    you find what you're looking for.
    
    I happen to be visiting him this weekend and mentioned your note to him
    which is how these references came up.
    
    	db
650.8On ReflectionWEORG::ROGOFFBarry Rogoff, IDC, ZKO2-1/R34, 381-2957Tue Jul 05 1994 17:0120
db,

The newsletter I was trying to recall was called "On Reflection". It was the
official publication of the APEX (Afficionados of Progressive EXcellence.) 
It was printed and mailed to paying subscribers.

The reason I mentioned it was because it went to some lengths to define
progressive rock, also known in some circles as:

	art rock
	symphonic rock
	classical rock
	flash rock

It seems that much of the newer music that's being called "progressive"
bears very little resemblance to the the earlier genre except that it's
complex music that breaks new ground, requires excellent musicianship, 
rewards careful listening, and is decidedly not mainstream.

Barry