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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

641.0. "Boz Scaggs" by LEDS::BURATI (human crumple zone) Tue May 24 1994 21:43

    Boz Scaggs has a new album out. The track I heard

    (a) sounded more like the pre-Silk Degrees R&B Scaggs and
    (b) was a very cool tune

    I was a fan before he became mellow in the extreme. It was nice to hear
    him in this kind of a groove. Anyone heard the whole album?
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641.1LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneTue May 31 1994 14:4313
    I bought the album. Only a few tracks harken back to those pre-silk
    degrees days. Most of it is very "Harbor Lights" style R&B. Booker T.
    Jones sits in on B-3 on a few tunes. I would have liked to have heard a
    lot more of him. It's mostly Scaggs and Ricky Fataar on most of the
    instruments. Nathan East does some bass duties here and there.

    I very much like the sound of of these tracks. It sounds like a low
    budget project, it has a close quality, like basement sessions but with
    $2000 mikes. Minimal processing. Very refreshing.

    It's dedicated to Jeff Porcaro.

    rjb
641.2Great production to my ears...MANTHN::EDDJust got The Goodbye LookTue May 31 1994 15:109
    >...sound of of these tracks.
    
    There seems to a distinct sound that comes out of what I loosely call
    "The Porcaro Crowd". Scaggs, Becker and Fagen, Toto, etc. All extremely
    well produced, no sludge, each instrument clearly distinguished from 
    all the others. Listen to "Lowdown". Two high-hats, each absolutely
    distinct from the other...
    
    Edd
641.3Listen to early Scaggs too...PAVONE::TURNERThu Jun 02 1994 11:4710
    Boz Scaggs is one artist who I've always followed with interest. Sure,
    I prefer the early part of his career, but he is a very consistent
    performer whose records are invariably worth a listen. 
    
    His early solo records (on Capricorn?) are great examples of white R&B,
    but I'm particularly partial to his early days with the Steve Miller
    Band. One track I never tire of hearing is "My Friend" off the Sailor
    album - garage pop at its best.
    
    Dom
641.4Junior Saw it HappenLEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneThu Jun 02 1994 13:224
    Agreed, Dom. The first two Miller LPs were classics. Boz obviously had a
    positive effect on The Steve Miller Band's musical output.

    --Ron
641.5TECRUS::ROSTThe creator has a master planThu Jun 02 1994 14:419
    The first Scaggs solo was for Atlantic (this is the one done in Muscle
    Shoals with Duane Allman).  After that, Boz recorded for Columbia.  I
    particularly liked "Boz Scaggs and Band" which had "Running Blue".
    
    How about that rip of "Jumping Jack Flash" that Boz did with Steve M.,
    "Dime a Dance Romance"...whatever happened to *that* side of the
    Scaggster?
    
    							Brian
641.6"Somebody loan me a dime..."CAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementThu Jun 02 1994 16:091
    
641.7Big Boz ManPAVONE::TURNERThu Jun 02 1994 16:2322
    >The first Scaggs solo was for Atlantic (this is the one done in Muscle
    >Shoals with Duane Allman).  After that, Boz recorded for Columbia.  I
    >particularly liked "Boz Scaggs and Band" which had "Running Blue".
    
    Columbia, that's right...don't know why I thought of Capricorn (maybe
    the Muscle Shoals connection).
    
    >How about that rip of "Jumping Jack Flash" that Boz did with Steve M.,
    >"Dime a Dance Romance"...whatever happened to *that* side of the
    >Scaggster?
    
    To be fair, I think "Dime a Dance Romance" might even have predated 
    "Jumping Jack Flash" (I think they're both from 1968). But now you
    mention it, the riff is rather similar. Great album, Sailor...the
    psychadaelic opener, "Song For Our Ancestors" is a cool piece of mood
    music - I wish it had gone on a couple of minutes longer.
    
    Back to Boz - anyone like to attempt a discography? I've got no idea
    about post-Silk Degrees Boz! And what about his first (garage) band,
    the Wigs - did they ever make it to vinyl? 
    
    Dom
641.8LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneThu Jun 02 1994 17:4912
>whatever happened to *that* side of the Scaggster?

    Mellowed and rotted I guess, as Woody would say. I went to see the SMB
    in '68 expecting to see the same lineup that was on Sailor, which was
    his brand new LP. But nope, Boz and the keyboard player were gone. It
    was a trio with big Marshall Super Lead stacks. So when he took a break,
    I asked Steve (in my best 15 year old voice) from the edge of the
    bandstand "Were's Boz?" He scowlled and tersely said "He had other
    plans" and walked away. But I did grab one of the "Steve Miller" picks
    that were scatter about the floor.

    rjb
641.9somebody get me a cheeseburgerRICKS::CALCAGNIreally useful engineThu Jun 02 1994 18:017
    Lessee, "Children of the Future" was the first SMB record, followed
    by "Sailor"?  Have I got that order right?  And did Boz not appear
    on the next record "Brave New World"?  (I thought he did).
    
    /rick
    
    ps Ron, who was the bass player in the power trio SMB you saw?
641.10Don't like that one? Dig this one.LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneThu Jun 02 1994 18:1922
>    Lessee, "Children of the Future" was the first SMB record, followed
>    by "Sailor"?  Have I got that order right?

    Yes.

>    And did Boz not appear
>    on the next record "Brave New World"?  (I thought he did).

    I thought he did not, but maybe they had some old takes. I lost interest
    in The Steve Miller Band after Sailor so I don't know who was in the
    band after that.
    
>    ps Ron, who was the bass player in the power trio SMB you saw?

    I trying to remember his name. I believe it was the guy on sailor.
    Lonnie Turner?

    --Ron

    BTW, Fannie Mae from Children... is on my short list of all-time great
    tracks. That harp solo always knocked me out. "Sock it to me Chicago
    style".
641.11USPMLO::DESROCHERSMine's made outta unobtainium!Thu Jun 02 1994 22:2221
    
    	Couple of things... just picked up the Steve Miller hits CD - the
    	old tunes, not the new crap.  Miller really could play!  Two tunes
    	that kill me are "Going to Mexico" and "Freedom Land".
    
    	Also, Boz's new CD was recorded in his own studio and he plays all
    	guitars.  Either my copy sucks or there's a ton of noise and
    	distortion all over it.  It's virtually unlistenable.  
    
    	Is it just my copy or has anyone else noticed this??
    
    	Oh yeah, first saw Boz at the Springfield Civic Center in '76 or
    	so.  He warmed up Loggins and Messina on their farewell "Best
    	Friends" tour.  Guess it was his "Silk Degrees" period.
    
    	Great music!  Also heard he took several years off and ran a
    	restaurant in San Fran.
    
    	Tom
    
    
641.12MPGS::MARKEYI might be totally wrong but I'm a...Thu Jun 02 1994 23:1315
    I have a question about Boz...
    
    I remember reading or hearing about (sorry, don't remember which) a
    Beantown appearance, I'd guess in the late 70s or very early 80s, in
    which Boz walked off stage... well, more than walked off stage as I
    remember the story... he gave the audience the finger, spoke into the
    microphone the endearing phrase associated with giving the finger, and
    said he'd never come back here.
    
    Am I dreaming? Did this happen? If so, what was he upset about?
    
    (Obviously, I wasn't there... I was just curious if this was an urban
    fairy tail or a real event).
    
    Brian
641.13And don't worry about showing your age!PAVONE::TURNERFri Jun 03 1994 08:569
    >So when he took a break, I asked Steve (in my best 15 year old voice)
    >from the edge of the bandstand "Were's Boz?" He scowlled and tersely
    >said "He had other plans" and walked away. But I did grab one of the
    >"Steve Miller" picks that were scatter about the floor.    
    
    Those are the sort of anecdotes that make these conferences so
    enjoyable. More of the same please, Ron!
    
    Dom
641.14.....AD::FLATTERYFri Jun 03 1994 14:108
    Boz owned a place on Union St. in San Fran called the 'blue light'....
    it was more a bar than a restaurant although it did serve food....used
    to have some great times in there.....didn't see boz too much though...
    he must have had others manage the place......the place is changed
    now..not even sure if it's got the same name......you could catch him
    over at 'slims' occasionally at least you could about a year or two
    back...'slims' is an R & B club-like concert venue that's south of
    market st.....alot of good people play that room....../k
641.15sweetheartsRICKS::CALCAGNIreally useful engineFri Jun 03 1994 14:1516
    I first saw Boz in late '71, during his "Sweethearts" period.  He was
    the middle act on a 3-band show (ahh, remember those days!).  The
    opener was Tuckey Buzzard; I think they were a project under the guidance
    of Bill Wyman.  The main act was Lee Michaels.  Boz blew em both off the
    stage imo.  I was pretty young (and impressionable :-) at the time and
    I remember these two scary looking, crazy eyed, longhaired dudes sitting
    in front of us, sloshing down wine from paper bags and yelling "Go get em
    Bozwell, you MF!" after every song.  So I figured this Boz guy must
    be pretty good :-).
    
    Anyone remember Les Dudek?  He toured with Boz for a while but didn't
    show up on record till Silk Degrees, which came out after he'd left.
    Great guitarist.
    
    /rickwell
    
641.16LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneFri Jun 03 1994 16:0823
>    	Also, Boz's new CD was recorded in his own studio and he plays all
>    	guitars.  Either my copy sucks or there's a ton of noise and
>    	distortion all over it.  It's virtually unlistenable.
>    	Is it just my copy or has anyone else noticed this??

    Tom,

    I didn't notice any distortion on my copy, but it does sound like the
    tracks were recorded hot, i.e. meters in the red.    
    
>    	Oh yeah, first saw Boz at the Springfield Civic Center in '76 or
>    	so.  He warmed up Loggins and Messina on their farewell "Best
>    	Friends" tour.  Guess it was his "Silk Degrees" period.

    I was at that show too. The promoter rented my B-3 for Boz' band. It was
    a great double-bill.

    And "Going to Mexico" and "Space Cowboy" sound exactly like he did
    when I saw him in  '68.

    --Ron