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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

626.0. "Counting Crows" by CRISTA::MAYNARD (The Front Row Kid) Tue Apr 19 1994 17:54

    
    The radio has been playing the song "Mr. Jones" a lot of late.
    The band that does the song is called Counting Crows.
    Who are these guys and is the rest of their music any good ?
    
    				Jim
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626.1Whining as an Art FormNWD002::TUTAK_PEMust be da pretzelsTue Apr 19 1994 20:056
    
    All I can tell you is that the vocalist has displaced Hurricane Smith
    in my two picks within 577.0. 
    
    Peter
    
626.2PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoyty poyple boydsTue Apr 19 1994 20:584
	Adam Duritz.  I like his voice.  The album is decent, though the
	lyrics (his, mostly) are somewhat inane.

626.3if I ever hear that song again I'll screamWBC::DEADYWed Apr 20 1994 18:384
    They sound similar to Van Morrison. I liked their songs initially,
    however, the local station has played them into the ground.
    
    fred deady
626.4SALEM::TAYLOR_JPickin' and a grinnin'Thu Apr 21 1994 19:013
    can you say "Flash in the pan" ?
    
    Gonzo
626.5SMURF::LONGOMark Longo, UNIX(r) Software GroupThu Apr 28 1994 17:4328
	Counting Crows is on the cover of the May issue of Musician 
magazine with a lengthy article inside.  They are a relatively new 
6 piece rock band (2 guitars, bass, hammond, drums, lead vocalist) 
from the SF bay area. I think they're a very solid rock band.  The 
playing is decent but the emphasis is on the songs rather than 
musicianship.  The record is called "August and Everything After" 
and is well produced by T-bone Burnett on Geffen.

	There have been comparisons to Van Morrison here and elsewhere,
but I don't really see it. That same comparison has been made to a
large fraction of quality artists (everyone from Elvis Costello to
Springsteen) so what does it mean?  Personally, I don't hear too
much similarity between Counting Crows and Van beyond the general
stylistic similarities shared by many bands of this ilk.

	The radio has played "Mr. Jones" a lot (over much as they are
so often given to doing), but there is much good material on this
record that has yet to be played.  IMO the material is well written
and delivered and there is good consistency among all the tunes.
The lyrics are a little cryptic (which I see as a feature, not a 
liability) and the lines are well turned. To my mind, the lyrics 
aren't inane, as someone else thought.  The writer talks about the 
lyrics in some depth in the Musician piece, for those interested.

	In all I'd give the record B+.

/ml
626.6MPGS::MARKEYI think therefore I am paidFri Apr 29 1994 21:339
    >There have been comparisons to Van Morrison here and elsewhere,
    >but I don't really see it.
    
    These comparisons are probably motivated by the fact that the singer
    actually sounds a bit like Van Morrison, at least in the one song (Mr.
    Jones) that I am familiar with. I never noticed it until it was brought
    up in this topic, but I do see the similarity.
    
    Brian
626.7PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoyty poyple boydsMon May 02 1994 16:4221
	I didn't notice the Van Morrison similarity so much with "Mr. Jones",
	but when I got the CD, I definitely noticed it on other tunes.
	But now that I've listened to it dozens of times, it has more
	or less disappeared for me.  As far as the lyrics being somewhat
	inane, they certainly aren't trite, and they're interesting, but
	things like this are a little "out there", even though they
	sound nice:

	"Stepped out the front door, like a ghost into a fog
	where no-one notices the contrast of white on white;
	and in between the moon and you, angels get a better view
	of the crumbling difference between wrong and right."

	(I think I got that right.  And those are some of the _less_
	inane lyrics.)

	I love his plaintive sound though.  He sings very easily.

	Diane
	
626.8VAXWRK::STHILAIREgee, I don't know what to sayMon May 02 1994 17:457
    I suppose where I'm such a big Van Morrison fan I should give them a
    try.  On the other hand, why listen to someone who sounds like Van
    Morrison, when I can listen to Van Morrison?
    
    Lorna
    
    
626.9;^)ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredMon May 02 1994 18:201
He might be better looking than Van Morrison, though.
626.10AD::FLATTERYMon May 02 1994 18:211
    RE"-1.............AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAH!.......;")..................K
626.11ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredMon May 02 1994 18:221
(bow)  Thank you!
626.12nice tryVAXWRK::STHILAIREgee, I don't know what to sayMon May 02 1994 18:4810
    Yeah, but I don't judge Van Morrison by the same rules as I judge the
    rest of the masses.
    
    Van Morrison doesn't have to be cute, he just is.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
    ps - besides, most singers, with the notable exceptions of David Crosby
    and Frank Black are better looking than Van.
    
626.13no more words!!ROCKER::KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeThu May 05 1994 20:5811
    
    These guys don't remind me of Van so much as early Bruce
    (as in "The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle")
    I like the "Mr. Jones" tune... very catchy. I've even
    been considering adding it to my band's repetoire, but who
    could remember all those words!!! 
    
    /Billy_K
    
    PS.-- Lorna, I believe that Adam Duritz also has all of his
          hair, albeit some nasty white-boy dreadlocks
626.14;^)ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredThu May 05 1994 22:057
re            <<< Note 626.13 by ROCKER::KNOX "Rock'n'Roll Refugee" >>>
                              -< no more words!! >-

>    PS.-- Lorna, I believe that Adam Duritz also has all of his
>          hair, albeit some nasty white-boy dreadlocks

Yeah, but is he thin?  He doesn't program computers on the side, does he?
626.15VAXWRK::STHILAIREgee, I don't know what to sayFri May 06 1994 15:0010
    I don't like dread-locks on white boys.  
    
    I can't quite understand how anybody could be quite so desperate for a
    "different" look.   :-)
    
    Lorna
    
    ps - I like the way Eddie Vedder wears his hair.  (BTW, I don't know if
    I've ever mentioned this, but I think he's cute.)
    
626.16PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoyty poyple boydsFri May 06 1994 16:307
  >>  I like the "Mr. Jones" tune... very catchy. I've even
  >>  been considering adding it to my band's repetoire, but who
  >>  could remember all those words!!! 

	i could.  ;>

626.17XCUSME::JENNISONEveryBody Wants To Pass As CatsFri May 06 1994 17:067
    
    
    	Eddie Vedder is a BABE!
    
    	The Counting Crows CD is great~! Mello....
    
    	SueJ
626.18no bottles on stage, thanks Ed!ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredFri May 06 1994 19:306
Eddie wasn't looking too good during the eMpTV music awards ... kinda
bloated, actually ... but he seemed to have gotten his physical self
back together in time for the Pearl Jam concerts at the Garden a few
weeks back (and that was a great show let me tell ya).

- dc
626.19a second hand story...VAXWRK::STHILAIREdon't look backMon May 09 1994 16:1413
    re .17, .18, sorry, to add to the Eddie Vedder digression in the
    Counting Crows topic, but I just had to mention that my daughter met
    Eddie Vedder at the Charles Hotel while the band was in town for the
    Boston Garden concerts.  She ran into him in the hall of the hotel
    after midnight, and he wound-up talking to her for about 45 minutes and
    giving her a big hug.  She said he was rambling on about all sorts of
    things, including Kurt Cobain's suicide, and, of course, she was
    thrilled out of her mind, but attempting to remain cool and not act
    like a star struck fan.  Anyway, in conclusion, she thought he was
    extremely attractive, as well as very nice.
    
    Lorna
    
626.20I'm soldVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsTue May 17 1994 19:2810
    Well, I just have to say that I finally saw these guys on VH1 and,
    guess what, the lead singer *is* very cute, even with the dreadlocks. 
    (In fact, he reminds me of a guy I once had a big crush on in real
    life, but he didn't have dreadlocks.)  :-)
    
    I liked his voice and the song, too, so I think I'm going to buy the CD
    this week.
    
    Lorna
    
626.21BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Tue May 17 1994 22:3010
    
    	You scare me.  8^)
    
    	I think you have your priorities backwards ... "great band" should
    	really come before "lead singer is cute".
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    
626.22VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsWed May 18 1994 16:266
    re .21, sometimes "great band" does come first (example: Van Morrison),
    sometimes "lead singer is cute" comes first (good example: Duran
    Duran).   :-)
    
    Lorna
    
626.23VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsWed May 18 1994 16:275
    re .21, and, besides, with some of the movies you watch *nothing*
    should scare you.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
626.24BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Wed May 18 1994 16:468
    
    	Well, now you see my point.  If what you do scares me that much
    	it should tell you something.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    
626.25LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneTue May 31 1994 14:309
    Checking in for CC: This record is very listenable, and grows moreso
    with each play. Having heard Mr. Jones on the radio more than a few
    times, I wasn't expecting a whole lot more from the CD, but it does in
    fact have considerably more to offer. I was afraid I'd get tired of the
    singers style after 3 or 4 tracks, but that's not the case at all. It's
    a fun album to listen to. I think I'll play a few dozen more times,
    reasonably spread out over some time, of course.

    rjb