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Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

594.0. "New Boston Album due" by NYOS01::BRENNA (Will strip for food) Fri Jan 14 1994 15:53

    
       From today's Boston Globe. A new Boston album is due out in late
    spring called "Walk On". It says that the album was finished this 
    past Christmas, but the record label MCA was unprepared to market it,
    so the release date was pushed back.
    
       
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594.1WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_B&B_And_A_Little_Weed.Fri Jan 14 1994 16:584
    Are the Rumors true that Steve Perry will do the Lead_Vocals??
    
    
        Crazy_Or_Is_Brad_Back_Al?
594.2CRISTA::MAYNARDThe Front Row KidFri Jan 14 1994 18:103
    This is actually a Tom Scholtz album with a lot of different musicians
    and 5 or 6 singers.
    			Jim
594.3new Boston???ROCKER::KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeThu May 26 1994 15:509
     I just heard a tune from the new BOSTON album. It sounded like
    the standard Tom Scholz tune (i.e. a remake of every other Tom Scholz
    tune), however the vocals did not sound like Brad Delp. I used to play 
    in a band with a friend of Brad's and words like "Cold Day in Hell" 
    were the norm when discussing a 4th Boston album with Brad.
    Anyone know who this new singer is... quite a set of pipes!!
    
    /Billy_K
    
594.4NOT BRAD..NOT CLOSE..BUT THERE!3D::MERRIMANThu May 26 1994 19:0017
    
    	Listen carefully....Brad IS doing backups on the new tune!
    	According to Gary Phil, there was a LONG search for just the
    	right vocalist for the new album....Nationwide if I remember
    	correctly...anyways lots of folks are uncertain who the mystery
    	dude really is????..Some say Fran from the old Orion the Hunter
    	..but other say NOT!! I'll find out next time I talk to Gary
    	or Brad let ya know...Brad's voice I.M.O. is irreplaceable(sp?)
    	No one can/will deliver a song with SUCH conviction!
    	Again, my opinion only!
    
    	As a side note...I know Brad and Gary..and I'll see what I can
    	find out...Brad is an extremely nice guy and has been involved
    	with my bands activities off and on....Gary is cool ...but I
    	haven't talked to him for a couple of months...So I'll fill
    	ya in ...if/when I find anything out
    						-TGW
594.5HelpJUPITR::WCLUETTMO - MO - MO- TIVATION!!!!!Thu May 26 1994 19:156
    I am wondering if Brad Delp still intends to put out a new RTZ album
    in the near future... The first RTZ kicked...
    
    
    Wayne
    
594.6Lawyers, Guns and MoneyTECRUS::ROSTThe creator has a master planFri Jun 03 1994 18:477
    These guys must love lawsuits.  I saw in the Worcester, MA paper that
    some guy is suing the band and the new singer for breach of a
    management contract.
    
    The album hits the stores Tuesday.
    
    							Brian
594.7"Pretty rockin'"HOTLNE::LUCHTTue Jun 07 1994 16:268
         I just heard a new cut of the new Boston CD, a tune
    entitled "Surrender to me" or something to that extent.
    It sounded pretty good, it rocked o.k.  You gotta love
    that guitar sound.  The Rockman is unmistakable in it's
    distorted sound.  Any other comments?
    
    Kev --
    
594.8TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPTue Jun 07 1994 16:4411
re: .7

>   You gotta love that guitar sound.  

No I don't! :-) :-)

>   The Rockman is unmistakable in it's distorted sound.  

Unmistakable, yes.  Good?  Not in my opinion.

-Hal
594.9MAYES::OSTIGUYTue Jun 07 1994 16:567
    I think the rockman sound is a good sound when used appropriately...it
    fits well with the first album, but I don't like the rest of their
    albums, and I haven't heard the new single yet...
    
    when I was in U4EA, the lead player used his Rockman sound on
    everything, which used to drive me crazeeeee...it's a good sound, if
    not overused, and he OVERUSED it to the max, even during slower tooonz
594.10"Brings back memories..."HOTLNE::LUCHTWed Jun 08 1994 16:178
         I've always been a big Boston fan from the start.  However,
    if I listened to the sound of the Rockman for too long it would
    drive me beserk.  Nevertheless, it's nice to hear that good
    time Boston sound again in some new material instead of the 
    songs from the last two decades.
    
    Kev --
    
594.11LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneWed Jun 08 1994 16:5810
    I can listen to that guitar sound for...about 4.6 seconds. It's
    nauseating. It's shallow and lifeless. It is to my ears as paper is to
    my tastebuds. I've been working overtime dodging Boston on the FM dial
    lately.

    I had a rockman for a while. Could wait to trade it in. Trying to get a
    good sound out of it was just below painting my house on the enjoyment
    scale.

    There, I said it.
594.12Love/hate relationship with Scholz RockmanDREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightWed Jun 08 1994 17:5413
    I have a Rockman.
    
    What I like about the RockMan:  
    
    	You can plug any old guitar in it and it will make you sound
    	exactly like Boston.
    
    What I hate about the RockMan:
    
    	You can plug any old guitar in it and it will make you sound
    	exactly like Boston.
    
    Mine mostly sits in a drawer these days.
594.13MPGS::MARKEYI might be totally wrong but I'm a...Thu Jun 09 1994 14:5216
    Ah, the Rockman... an interesting box indeed. No knobs. Just switches.
    You can make it sound exactly like Boston, or you can move the slide
    switches to another position and get a sound exactly like Boston. The
    entire range of guitar sounds from A to A. Simply amazing.
    
    In 20 years, Boston has made four albums. Everyone ignores the second
    and third, and plays the death out of the first. If current trends are
    any indication, the latest Boston album will join numbers 2 and 3 as
    slightly upscale versions of Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, and a day
    will not pass in which some local radio station treats us to another
    listening of "Foreplay/Long Time", or "Rock 'n Roll Band". Like we
    really need it.
    
    Yawn.
    
    Brian
594.14QuackTECRUS::ROSTDon't use cruise control in reverseThu Jun 09 1994 15:0320
    Ah, everyone knocks the Rockman, but as the owner of some interesting
    excuses for headphone amps that existed before that, it was the first
    headphone amp that sounded enough like really playing through an amp to
    be useful and it was also the first product I recall that gave you the
    sound of a rack full of studio processing gear in a box the size of a
    video tape and for $200.  Limited, sure, but what isn't?  Tried a
    Pocket-Bl*w-Me, uh, Pocket-Rock-It lately?  Actually, Yamaha did it
    best with the MA-10, which got discontinued almost as soon as they
    introduced it.  I hope mine never breaks 8^(
    
    Hey, I was trapped in a lab in MRO1 a few years ago with a tape deck
    and only two tapes, "Third Stage" and Zep's "Presence".  Anyway, I
    definitely heard plenty of that third album (although it suddenly made
    "Presence" seems like a major work of art, for some reason).   Why, it
    sounds just like the first album!  Maybe that's the Scholz mentality? 
    8^)
    
    I found out that Tom's real first name is Donald, BTW.
    
    							Brian
594.15:-)MPGS::MARKEYI might be totally wrong but I'm a...Thu Jun 09 1994 17:0824
    For Boston fans, I can understand your frustration at having to
    wait so long between Boston albums. Thus, I offer the following
    recipe for keeping yourself chock full of the latest Boston
    music.
    
    To create the ultimate Boston emulator:
    
    1. Buy a drum machine. Select the least dynamic bass and snare
       drum sounds and alternate them on beats 1,2,3.4. Place
       a loud cymbol crash at the beginning of every measure of
       4.

    2. Place a Waring blender on "puree", to most closely approximate
       that signature homogenized guitar sound.
    
    3. Isolate the vocal tracks from the "Chipmunks Greatest Hits"
       recording.
    
    4. Mix these elements in such a way that the VU meter on your tape
       machine never wavers from 0 bd.
    
    There you have it! Enjoy.
    
    Brian
594.16"I'm trying to remember..."HOTLNE::LUCHTMon Jun 13 1994 15:378
         How many shows were sold out at the Worcester Centrum
    back in 1987?  9 or 10? I can't remember.  At any rate, 
    that's quite a few folks who enjoyed rocking' to Boston's
    "irritating" sound.  Any word on an upcoming tour?
    
    Kev --
    
    
594.17LEDS::BURATIhuman crumple zoneMon Jun 13 1994 17:175
    Incredible isn't it. I've seen thousands upon thousands of people
    absolutely convinced that they're having the time of their lives
    listening to absolute trash. :^)

    --Ron
594.18BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Mon Jun 20 1994 22:426
    
    	They sold out 1 less show than they booked, I believe ... and
    	I think they booked 9 shows.
    
    							GTI
    
594.19same old.. But I'm not bitter.BLASTA::PelkeyLife aint for the squeamishThu Jul 14 1994 18:0759
re: Fourth Album

	Nice cover...  :)

	Inside,, Same old stuff...

	Singer is different,,, only way I was sure is different name,
	who'd they do that ? (I pondered..)  Anyway, I know the dude
	Fran...  Knew him pretty good back in the late 70s early
	80s'  He was in ORion the Hunter I believe...  So that
	apple stayed pretty close to the tree (Orion was Goodreau's
	post Boston project.. Hmmmm??)

	Can't decide weather Sholzs' sound is what makes all their
	albums sound the same, or if they just keep reusing the
	same hooks,,, ooooorrrrr BOTH!  YEAH! BOTH!

Do I like it...

	Most of it.  First listen was the night I bought it, through
	headphones.  Not a bad mix, alot of production, the material
	The songs themselves that is..,
					ehh...  it's quite
	a bit like third stage, like Don't look back was quite a bit
	like the 1st.  Listen to the 1st and the fourth back to back,	
	and the biggest differnece is the mixing ability.technology.


Do I hate it.

	Naw,, not really...

Like everyone else seems to be saying,, nothing much has changed..

RE: the Rockman.

Three GREAT purposes

	1. The chaining ability, where you can either tie it 	
	    in to your stearo with the proper cable, and learn
	    covers via cassette or CD, or hook it up to another
	    rockman....  Silent jams at 1:40 A.m.!

	2. Battery powered, goes anywhere your Case goes

	3. When used wiht a stereo chorous, one output tied to
	    a real amp, other output sent to the rockman, with the 
	    phone output hooked into two channels on your sound
	    board.. (Stereo 1/8" to Stereo RCA cable required)
	   You'd have to hear it to sort of appreciate it...


But for REAL road work,, leave it home... 

	 TOO NOISY! TOO COMPRESSED

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