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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

577.0. "No-No Vox" by NWD002::TUTAK_PE (Rickenbackerhacker) Mon Dec 20 1993 17:09

    
    I was listening to some Christmas choral music the other day, 
    thinking to myself how utterly beautiful the vocal work was. Then I got
    on this jag thinking about folks whose singing voices I absolutely
    can't stand. I mean, voices whose mere presence make me reach for the
    dial and not just turn down the volume, but either hit another station,
    or shut the damned thing off. Voices about as mellifluous as a crow's.
    
    I came up with two:
    
    		Hurricane Whatzisface...the guy who croaked 'Oh Babe, What
    		Would You Say ?' about 15 years ago.
    
    		Yoko Ono. (I think FZ pegged it when he retitled 'Scumbag'
    		as 'A Small Eternity with Yoko Ono' on one of his
    		releases.)
    
    I'm curious. Whose singing voice has a similar effect on you ? One that
    raises your blood pressure by its mere presence. One that, if played
    while you were trapped in an elevator, would have you jumping up and 
    swinging at the speaker ?
    
    Whose voice drives you absolutely, positively, unequivocally up the
    wall ?
    
    Peter
      
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577.1PEAKS::YANDELLDon't blame me, I'm new hereMon Dec 20 1993 17:181
any country singer, especially that achy breaky cyrus
577.2CSC32::B_KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeMon Dec 20 1993 17:217
    
    No contest....
    
    Madonna! Gack!!
    
    
    /BK
577.3GOOROO::DCLARKI AM IRON MANMon Dec 20 1993 17:305
    the guy who sings for Rush
    
    the guy who sings for Dream Theater
    
    post-motorcycle-accident Bob Dylan
577.4what was it all about?VAXWRK::STHILAIREwhat about now?Mon Dec 20 1993 17:467
    Frank Sinatra
    
    
    
    
    Lorna
    
577.5VAXWRK::STHILAIREwhat about now?Mon Dec 20 1993 17:472
    or Liza Minnelli belting out god-knows-what
    
577.6My fingernails on the old blackboard choicesAIMHI::KERRLivin Life By The DropMon Dec 20 1993 18:2411
    
    Good topic.  There are lots of people whose music drives me nuts, but
    not necessarily their voices.  So, seperating voice from music, here's
    the top three that make me wish I had been born deaf:
    
    	- Buck Owens
    	- David Lee Roth
    	- Tom Waits
    
    
    
577.7MANTHN::EDDBusted, down in New Orleans...Mon Dec 20 1993 18:5713
    MICHAEL BOLTON!
    
    Axl Rose
    
    Michael Bolton
    
    Bob Dylan
    
    Neil Young
    
    Dolly Parton
    
    Michael Bolton.
577.8...I change stations every time...MSE1::MULLERMon Dec 20 1993 18:594
Tom Petty - especially his newer "work" which *to me* is both whiny & lame. I
	liked him much more in the late 70s - early 80s.


577.9a couple moreVAXWRK::STHILAIREwhat about now?Mon Dec 20 1993 19:158
    Frank Black (former lead singer of The Pixies)
    
    Kurt Cobain   
    
    
    
    
    
577.10Just one for meCADSYS::LARRICKMon Dec 20 1993 19:233
Bruce Springsteen.  Give that man a suppository.

-Doug
577.11Neil Young and Yoko OnoDREGS::BLICKSTEINDown on that shreddin' flo'Mon Dec 20 1993 19:3251
    Neil Young
    
    Yoko Ono
    
    Cat Stevens specifically on "Oh Very Young"
    
    Neil Young (again)
    
    Yoko Ono (now and forever)
    
    Most of what Cyndi Lauper does (although "Time after Time" demonstrates
    	that when she doesn't try to sing "Mezzo Bimbo" she has a lovely
    	voice).
    
    Geddy Lee - even though "some of my best friends are Rush fans"
    
    Have I already mentioned Neil Young and Yoko Ono?
    
    This new Icelandic chick "Bjork" (or something like that)
    
    Kate Bush - "Yah Yah Babooshka" ???? - gimme a break
    
    Neil Young and Yoko Ono (let's hope they never conspire against
    	the mirrors, windows and dogs of the world to do a duet).
    
    and last but not least: Linda McCartney
    
    	The singer in our band brought a tape of her singing to rehearsal
    	the other night that was hilarious.  Apparently Paul complained
    	that the sound guys were making her sound bad and basically
    	taking her out of the mix.
    
    	Story goes that the soundman, attempting to make a point to Paul,
    	took a multi-track live master tape they had made out, and did
    	a special mix eliminating all vocals but Lindas.
    
    	My friends, this lady REALLY can NOT sing!   She was so far off
    	key it was simultaneously pathetic and hilarious.   
    
    	I heard the soundman who did this got fired, either for doing it
    	or for giving it to a radio station who ended up littering the
    	airwaves with it.
    
    	But if you ask me, there's no question that the soundman was right.
    
    IMHO,
    
    	db
    
    
    
577.12TPSYS::CLARKCan you picture what will be?Mon Dec 20 1993 21:305
Lead singer for the Violent Femmes, though I'm not 100% sure it's
entirely his voice that makes me retch so much as the total sonic output
of that nauseating band.  The opposite effect would be Neil Young, whose
music I like so much that I can tolerate his voice, which I admit isn't
the greatest.
577.13But then again I really like Robert WyattKOLFAX::WIEGLEBThai Truck-Driving HeroMon Dec 20 1993 23:138
    The vocalist(s) for "Gene Loves Jezebel" - truly wretched.  Made me
    stop listening to "alternative" radio for a while.  One of the few
    groups whose vocals make me turn off the radio immediately.
    
    RE: .0 - "Hurricane" Norman Smith.  Aside from bad vocals, he is known for
    producing a number of Pink Floyd's early records.
    
    - Dave
577.14singing = screeching ?NEMAIL::CARROLLJaka Dr. Emilio LazardoTue Dec 21 1993 09:3219
    
    Another vote for Neil Young
    
    Another vote, no . . *two* votes for Yoko 'Screech' Ono
    
    A *big* vote for the woman from 4 Non-Blondes
    
    And, as much as I like his work, Joe Jackson sounded awfully whiny on
    his last couple of albums
    
    Another vote for Bob Dylan
    
    Some of Michael Jackson's songs off Thriller want to make me retch from
    the sound of his voice only - most notably "P.Y.T." Blaaargh!
    
    But then again, I love the Violent Femmes singer's voice . . . .
    
    					- Jim
    
577.15MANTHN::EDDBusted, down in New Orleans...Tue Dec 21 1993 10:506
    I heard the perfect description of Michael Bolton's voice this
    weekend...
    
    "He sounds like he's trying to pass a loaf of Italian bread..."
    
    Edd
577.16RAYNAL::BARKERNothing is true...Everything is permittedTue Dec 21 1993 11:357
    Mick Jagger
    
    Kris Kristofferson
    
    	but mostly,
    
    Michael Bolton (is the anti-christ)
577.17my bottom 3WBC::DEADYeverything's fine... just fine...Tue Dec 21 1993 11:543
    Michael Bolton
    Patti Scafillia (sp. Bruce Springsteen's wife)
    Maria Carey
577.18VAXWRK::STHILAIREwhat about now?Tue Dec 21 1993 12:5817
    Janet Jackson
    Madonna
    Maria Carey
    Paula Abdul
    Gloria Estefan
    
    ...I'm sure part of it is how much I hate the crappy material they
        choose to do.
    
    
    Re:  Yoko Ono and Linda McCartney - they managed to marry 2 of the
         most desirable men in the world - I have to admire them for
         that even if they can't sing!  :-)
    
    
    Lorna
    
577.19ELIS::SCHUURMANSPart Of The HeritageTue Dec 21 1993 13:4410
577.20over-rated laceMAYES::OSTIGUYTue Dec 21 1993 15:514
    NIX Stevie Nicks    
    
    she sounded fine on Buckingham/Nicks and her first 2 albums with
    Fleetwood Mac, but after that   AAAHHHH    GAG
577.21UnfairNACAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Dec 21 1993 17:2214
    re: Linda
    
    The tale of the tape "proving" that she cannot sing has been told over
    and over again.  I saw the McCartney tour at the Worcester Centrum
    several years ago and Linda was quite audible and did a very nice job
    on the vocals.  I think the tape can be very easily explained by a poor
    monitor mix as any of us who do vocals with a live band can attest. 
    I'd sure hate to have somebody sifting through to find my bad moments
    (few though they are :^) ).  I think that story is very unfair and any 
    radio station that had the tastelessness to play the tape is beneath 
    contempt.
    
    What _really_ makes me run screaming, though, is the voice of the lead
    singer for Pearl Jam. 
577.22THEBAY::CHABANEDSpasticus DyslexicusTue Dec 21 1993 18:017
    
    Richard Butler of the Psychedelic Furs.  
    
    Even though some of the Furs tunes are amoung my favorites.
    
    -Ed
    
577.23VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsTue Dec 21 1993 18:119
    re .21, I think you have me confused with somebody else!  :-)
    I'm not the one who brought up the Linda McCartney tape, although
    I have heard mention of it before.  (In general, I like Linda, though,
    because she took a lot of great photographs of rock stars in the '60's. 
    On Page 39 of her book of rock photos from the '60's, is a wonderful
    picture of Neil Young - whose voice I *love*!)  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
577.24Even Yoko had her moments, I thought...RNDHSE::WALLShow me, don't tell meTue Dec 21 1993 18:2416
    
    Jeez, I can't think of anyone whose work I've found universally
    unlistenable.  Kate Bush comes pretty close, although I actually came
    close to liking "A Deal With God." (that is Kate Bush, isn't it?  I
    might have the wrong title).
    
    I'm a lot more likely to find lyrical content more annoying than a
    singer's voice, or people who think that dissonance is automatically
    artistic and hence musical.  For example, I'm the only person I know
    who thinks Sinead O'Connor's second album was worth buying and her
    first album was not.  Too much abuse of voice on the first one -- were
    those shrieks necessary?
    
    DFW
                                                              
    
577.25MANTHN::EDDBusted, down in New Orleans...Tue Dec 21 1993 18:345
    >...might have the wrong title.
    
    "Running Up That Hill"
    
    Edd
577.26VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsTue Dec 21 1993 18:547
    It's more often the type of music, or the music, that will make me
    dislike a song, than it is just a case of hating a particular singer's
    voice.  For example, I think Eddie Vedder has a good voice, but I just
    don't like the music he does with Pearl Jam.
    
    Lorna
    
577.27NACAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Dec 21 1993 19:558
    >>  re .21, I think you have me confused with somebody else!  :-)
    >>  I'm not the one who brought up the Linda McCartney tape...
    
    I know.  When I said "re: Linda" I meant "re: the topic about the Linda
    tape," which was .11.  I can see (by squinting) that your name isn't 
    Linda.
    
    							Marc
577.28Give me a squeeky door hinge.....SWAM2::WAGNER_DAI want Santa's bad girl list!Wed Dec 22 1993 09:2528
            <<< Note 577.4 by VAXWRK::STHILAIRE "what about now?" >>>
    
    }}Frank Sinatra
    
    	I would agree with you on this, Lorna, except Frank Not-So-Hotra
    doesn't sing.  He talks. I've even seen some of his early films that
    somebody jokingly titled musicals and he talked all of his songs.
    
    
    OTHERS ON MY LIST:
    
    Mick Jaggar with the Rolling Stones.
    Mick Jaggar with anyone else.
    Mick Jaggar by himself.
    Mick Jaggar tied to a tree in the back yard with peanut butter spread
    all over his body and wild rabid squirrels nibbling at him! (Of
    course, I can't tell the difference!)
    
    Bob Dylan
    Tom Petty
    Tom Petty doing his impression of Bob Dylan
    
    And, help me out here cause I forget his name, that guy that sang for
    AC/DC.
    
    
    	-=Dave=-
    
577.29bash bash bashNEMAIL::CARROLLJaka Dr. Emilio LazardoWed Dec 22 1993 11:247
    
    Oh, and *another* one :-) . . .
    
    	Axl Rose.  Makes my skin crawl ( or is that the point? )
    
    						- Jim
    
577.31They all can't be that bad!INDEV1::SMITHI need two of everything...Wed Dec 22 1993 12:597
    
    I think it would be easier to have a NOTE for people to give
    opinions on who they *can* and *do* listen too. It would be
    much shorter! I can't believe most of the names being bashed
    here... and in the 'regular' bashing note. 
    
    	Smitty
577.32VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsWed Dec 22 1993 13:085
    re .31, I know!  I *love* Neil Young, Tom Petty, Bruce Springsteen,
    and Stevie Nicks voices.
    
    Lorna
    
577.33i love mickVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsWed Dec 22 1993 13:094
    Also, Mick Jagger!  I love his voice.  
    
    Lorna
    
577.34TECRUS::ROSTIf you don't C#, you might BbWed Dec 22 1993 13:5821
    My no-nos:
    
    Luciano Pavarotti		Nat King Cole		Bill Monroe
    Johnny Most			Aretha Franklin		Larry Storch
    Mrs. Miller			Emmylou Harris		Dean Martin
    Aaron Tippin		Dickie Peterson		Brian Markey
    Julie Andrews		Ginger Baker		Mary Martin
    Cathy Berberian		Johnny Hartman		Mary Hopkin
    Jim Osterberg		Betty Carter		Mary Wells
    Beverly Sills		Msitslav Rostropovich	John Martyn
    Tony Bennett		Justin Hayward		Rolf Harris
    Dave Blickstein		Sandy Denny		Cher
    Joe Cocker			Ella Fitzgerald		John Chancellor
    Marcel Marceau		Smokey Robinson		Ian Gillan
    Paul McCartney		Smokey Stover		Woody Allen
    Nusrat Ali Khan		Betty Jo Bioloski	Steve Allen
    Mario Lanza			Nicolo Pagannini	Bobby McFerrin
    
    These are all I could think of off the top of my head...
    
    						    Chester Burnett
577.35BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughWed Dec 22 1993 14:019
    
    	RE: Brian
    
    	Is there anyone you like?
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    
577.36I know I do... INDEV1::SMITHI need two of everything...Wed Dec 22 1993 15:245
    
    Looks like a lot of folks need a new stereo system, then maybe
    you would like what you hear...  :^)
    
    	Smitty
577.37NWD002::TUTAK_PERickenbackerhackerWed Dec 22 1993 17:078
    
    re: .34
    
    Brian, I'm surprised. Sandy Denny ? I know--you meant Sandy *Duncan*,
    right ? Or was it Sandy Becker ?
    
    Peter
    
577.38Dear Mom, Look!DREGS::BLICKSTEINDown on that shreddin' flo'Wed Dec 22 1993 18:469
    Noticed thta Brian Markey and I were in that list.
    
    Can only say that I'm honored to be on a list that includes Paul
    McCartney, Beverly Sills, Ella, Sandy Denny, Tony Bennett, etc.
    
    Brian, do I have your permission to forward that list to people
    I'm trying to impress?
    
    	db
577.39LEDS::BURATIboss buratoWed Dec 22 1993 19:542
    Aye, a strange list that would have Ginger Baker's and Betty Carter's
    names separated by only a few pixels. I would only add Lorne Greene.
577.40KOLFAX::WIEGLEBThai Truck-Driving HeroWed Dec 22 1993 22:518
    RE: Brian
    
    Betty Jo Bioloski!?!?  You can't be serious!  Surely, you must mean
    Susan Underhill, or mebbe Audrey Farber?  ;^)
    
    Then it hit me...
    
    - Dave
577.41a few more . . .NEMAIL::CARROLLJaka Dr. Emilio LazardoThu Dec 23 1993 11:028
    
    William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy
    
    She's gorgeous, true, but did anyone hear Cindy Crawford try to sing on
    the 'Charlie' commercial with Little Richard?  Oh *man* . . . 
    
    						- JIm
    
577.42You're right, we *can't* talk here!TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPThu Dec 23 1993 13:3812
re: .40
    
>    Betty Jo Bioloski!?!?  You can't be serious!  Surely, you must mean
>    Susan Underhill, or mebbe Audrey Farber?  ;^)
    
Oh, you mean Nancy!

>    Then it hit me...
    
...like the cold kiss at the end of a wet fist.

-Hal
577.43I know that tune...DREGS::BLICKSTEINDown on that shreddin' flo'Thu Dec 23 1993 14:305
>...like the cold kiss at the end of a wet fist.
    
    It was "pig night" at the old...

    	db
577.44"...what's all this brouhaha....??"STRATA::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Thu Dec 23 1993 17:494
    ...at the old Monte Ponty Sigma House....we had escaped from the crowd
    and stood trembling under the dwarf maples.... ;)
    
    ep