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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

537.0. "Performing" by OTOOA::ESKICIOGLU (I'm Stress Smart) Mon Nov 01 1993 13:24

    
	Is this standard procedure?
    
	I am asking those of you, who have done anything up on stage at
	least once in their lives; joggling, magic, stand-up, rock 'n'
	roll, piano resital, anything. I am asking you, have similar
	things happened to you too, or is it just me? 
	
	The Show:
	
	1. One of the players doesn't show up.
	
	2. All players show up, but the show gets cancelled the 
	last minute.
	
	3. All players show up, the show is on, but someone 
	forgets his/her costume at home.
	
	4. All players show up, show is on, but a few people are missing 
	some parts/accessories of their costumes (we have seen shoes 
	missing, necklaces, belts, jackets, scarfs).
	
	5. All players, with all their costumes, with all the pieces are 
	there and the show is on but we have no audience. We dance to an 
	empty room.
	
	6. Everything is perfect, we have a full house but the audience 
	is depressed about the ozone layer and they watch us as they 
	would watch a doorknob.
	
	7. Everything is perfect, we have a full house, we have audience 
	participation, they are clapping and yelling and so on. Our 
	costumes start falling apart. (Yesterday, I turned around and saw 
	a scarf on the floor, "oh my god, someone dropped her scarf", I 
	turned around again, there is another scarf on the floor, "oh my 
	god, that is *my* scarf", I turned around again, I saw a SHOE on 
	the floor, "oh my god, what the hell is going on, if I turn once 
	more, I will start seeing body parts on stage, someone's chin, 
	someone's arm". At this point, I am so distracted, all I can 
	concentrate on is to figure out who is dancing with one foot 
	bare. Obviously two other dancers are distracted too, they bump 
	onto eachother and their spoons start flying around.)
	
	8. Everybody shows up with complete costumes, the costumes 
	survive the dance but one of the dancers falls of the stage.
	
	9. Everything is perfect. Full staff, full house. The costumes
	AND the dancers survive the show. After the show, we go out to
	celebrate. We are eating and drinking and laughing and dancing.
	In the middle of the party one of the girls remember that she has
	forgotten her costume (value $1000) in the dressing room. 
	
	The Practice:
	
	1. At least one person does not show up.
	
	2. If most people show up, the teacher can't make it.
	
	3. Everybody is there, the teacher is there. The person in charge 
	of the music has forgotten the tape.
	
	4. We have all the players, we have the teacher, we have the 
	music. The tape drive doesn't work.
	
	5. Everybody is there, the teacher is there, we have the music, 
	the stereo is working. The big room at the gym is double booked.
	We get the small, hot room. 20 people cannot even breathe.
	
	6. Practice gets cancelled. One of the guys in the "buddy" chain
	forgets to call his buddy, who shows up at the gym only to find 
	out that the practice has been cancelled and he has not been 
	informed. He gets pissed of.
	
	7. We have all the players and the teacher and the gym and the 
	music plus we have 4-5 new comers. We are so happy. These new 
	people will fill in the gaps and will form a reliable set of 
	spares. We take hours to train them and bring them up to speed 
	and they never show up again.
	
	
	I swear all of the above and more have happened. Sometimes a 
	couple of them at the same time. Is this unique to us or 
	everybody else involved in such activities experience the same
	problems?
		
	I don't demo systems/applications/layered products to customers
	anymore but in the days when I used to, there was this thing
	called "demo effect". Everything that worked before the demo
	would not work during the demo. Or something would break down
	hours before the demo and get fixed as the customer walked in the
	door. I started to recall my demo stories more often now.
	
	Please tell every odd little thing that has gone wrong for you.
	
	Lale
    	
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537.1TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPMon Nov 01 1993 13:4320
Just a couple of weeks ago I played guitar and sang at a friend's
wedding.  There were supposed to be three of us:

    o	1st song, I sing lead, player B sings harmony

    o	2nd song, player B sings lead, myself and player C sing harmony

    o	3rd song, player C sings lead, myself (low part) and player C( high
	part) sing harmony

On the day of the wedding, player B doesn't show up :-(.  But the show
must go on!  I had to do song 1 without harmony, we had to scratch 
song two, and on song three I had to sing the high part instead of the 
low one (the low one doesn't sound right without the high one).  The part 
was a bit high for my range, too.  Managed to not crack too badly.

-Hal

P.S.  Lale, you should check out GUITAR :-), there's a whole topic of
"gigs from hell".
537.2Jail BaitTECRUS::ROSTMetal GuruMon Nov 01 1993 14:526
    Here's one you didn't mention:
    
    While the group is on a break, one member manages to get arrested,
    thereby missing the rest of the performance.
    
    							Brian
537.3no-show...SMURF::LONGOMark Longo, UNIX(r) Software GroupMon Nov 01 1993 14:5718
	In 23 years of club gigging I've never had a musician not show up.
Until last June when the drummer didn't show up.  And none of the possible
last second fill-in people were reachable.  And the staff kept asking, "So uh,
where's the drummer?"  Or "You *do* have a drummer, right?", and the owner just
shakes his head in disgust and walks away.  It was a thursday night gig and the
drummer just spaced it.  Amazing, even for a drummer ;-).

	It was a 3 piece gig so myself and the other guy did a blues duo, which
is actually how we started the band, and people actually liked it.  But the club
management didn't like it (and who can blame them!) and payed us a VERY reduced 
wage and cancelled all our remaining gigs.  I can't recall ever being quite so
embarrassed.

	Eventually they've hired us back in spite of themselves but I won't be 
forgetting that experience soon.

	Mark
537.4MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Mon Nov 01 1993 15:2812
    Gheeesh, Lale. You list all that stuff like it's unusual!
    
    74. A drunk will insist you play "Freebird".
    
    75. A drunk will insist you let *him* play "Freebird".
    
    76. Some woman in a black jump suit will insist you let her
    	precocious 9 year old daughter play keyboards. (This can be fun.
    	Set your digital delay to 50ms. And fully "wet". See Sally
    	squirm...)
    
    Edd
537.5LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayMon Nov 01 1993 16:5710
    and

    77. You're bass player books you into a biker hangout on
        "Wild Turkey Night" ($.50 shots) and 'round 'bout midnight
        one member of your band cops an attitude with the audience
        that they as a group take offense at thereby causing the
        evenings festivities to come to an abrupt halt and the balance
        of the members to do the fastest talking of their collective 
        lives getting away with only minor equipment damage.
537.6I bet this has happened to others as well.AIMHI::KERRCaught In The CrossfireMon Nov 01 1993 18:5811
    
    78.  Everyone shows, except the drummer is a bit, shall we say,
         smashed (actually, he can't walk, much less play).  
	 He makes it through the first set, but we lose track of him during
    	 the break and he finds more potent potables (for $100 Alex).  
    	 He passes out during  the second set, falling off the stage and 
    	 generally knocking down a bunch of equipment.  End of gig, and we 
    	 don't get invited back (management was not pleased).  
    	 The next week we get a new drummer.  BTW, this was while I was in 
    	 college and the drummer was only 17 at the time.
    
537.7$100 and he passed out!CSLALL::WEWINGMon Nov 01 1993 19:055
    the only potent potables i can think of that cost
    $100 do NOT make people pass out.  he should have played
    all NIGHT for $100 worth.
    
    or at least that is what i read in newsweek ;-)
537.8MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Mon Nov 01 1993 19:343
    He didn't pass out, his body simply couldn't keep up with his mind.
    
    Edd
537.9Tip: Charge them a nickle each timeDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootMon Nov 01 1993 21:356
>    74. A drunk will insist you play "Freebird".
>    75. A drunk will insist you let *him* play "Freebird".
    
    You BETTER be prepared to handle these situations because if I had
    a nickle for every time this happened to me, I could have retired
    years ago.
537.10LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayTue Nov 02 1993 01:248
    Ooooh, yeah. Make that bass player and I am there. We had to practically
    prop up our bassist one night after he fell off the wagon in a big way.
    There's nothing like counting down a tune, everybody starts in
    except...where's the bass? We look over to stage left and there he is
    staring at with this "doe caught in the headlights" blank look. While we
    look back as to say "JERRRRYYY"!!! He responds by thumping out something
    in the wrong key.  Whoa. We had a talk with that boy. Put him right back
    on the wagon.
537.11MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Tue Nov 02 1993 10:467
    > Tip: Charge them a nickle each time...
    
    I'd rather be broke than play "Freebird"...
    
    Edd
    
    
537.12LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayTue Nov 02 1993 14:372
    I'd rather be dead than let a drunk play Freebird at my gig and on MY
    instrument. Even though saying "over my dead body" makes for bad PR.
537.13play 'Breaking the Law' when the cops comeADROID::fosterIn thru the closed doorTue Nov 02 1993 16:4611
Drummer calls the club 10 minutes before set time "Well, the singer
said to call if I couldn't make it".  ARG!  We borrowed the drummer from
the 2nd band and I coached him all the way. Actually, it didn't work out
too badly, esp. being all originals.

Play to empty clubs a lot %^). One time our singer grabbed one of those
full-size cardboard beer-ad blonds and stood her up on the dance floor while
we were playing! She was actually pretty cool, until our guitarist tried to
dance with her and she got crushed.

Droid
537.14And The Category for Final Jeopardy is...AIMHI::KERRCaught In The CrossfireTue Nov 02 1993 17:358
    RE: .7
    
    I guess you're not a big Jeopardy fan, that's what the "for $100 Alec" 
    was in reference to (Jeopardy very often has a category named "Potent
    Potables").
    
    
    
537.15Why aren't you practicing?NWACES::HICKERNELLSubtle like a train wreckThu Nov 04 1993 16:355
>    (Jeopardy very often has a category named "Potent Potables").
    
    You watch this show often, Al?  %^)
    
    Dave
537.16CSC32::B_KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeMon Nov 08 1993 14:4318
    
    After 20 years of gigging, I've lived thru way too many "gigs from
    hell" and I won't bore you with any of them ... 
    
    However, I vividly remember a theatrical "show from hell" ...
    
    I was in a theatrical group doing "Jesus Christ Superstar" back in
    the 70's. One night when we were doing a show, everything was going
    fine right until the end. "Jesus" is up on the cross, arms tied to the 
    cross-beam...there are lots of people gathered around the base of the 
    cross, looking up, and suddenly the cross-beam decides to part company
    with the rest of the cross ... One serious concussion, one "Jesus" with
    a broken arm, lots of various bruises and contusions and loads of
    laughs from the audience ("gees, I didn't know this show was a
    comedy...")
    
    /Billy_K
    
537.17Thanks for the unpleasant memoryGWEN::TASSINARIBobWed Nov 10 1993 19:3529
           <<< Note 537.6 by AIMHI::KERR "Caught In The Crossfire" >>>
                -< I bet this has happened to others as well. >-

    
>>    78.  Everyone shows, except the drummer is a bit, shall we say,
>>         smashed (actually, he can't walk, much less play).  
>>	 He makes it through the first set, but we lose track of him during
>>    	 the break and he finds more potent potables (for $100 Alex).  
>>    	 He passes out during  the second set, falling off the stage and 
>>    	 generally knocking down a bunch of equipment.  End of gig, and we 
>>    	 don't get invited back (management was not pleased).  
>>    	 The next week we get a new drummer.  BTW, this was while I was in 
>>    	 college and the drummer was only 17 at the time.
    


     A variation of this theme happened to me....


    Drummer drunk. Plays at varying speeds mostly too slow. During first
   break he falls on top of the lead guitarists' SG which.... 

     .....BREAKS THE NECK OFF!!!

   Needless to say the l.g. was not happy and Lord knows I was totally 
 disgusted. I sat out the rest of the night (rhythm guitarist) so the lead
 player had a guitar.

    - Bob
537.18Sure!VICKI::CRAIGNo such thing as too many catsThu Nov 18 1993 01:2242
	1. One of the players doesn't show up.

Yes.  It's how I got the job of lead singer added to my job of bass 
player.  The no-show lead singer was fired two weeks later.  Not that 
*I* was all that great, but he was really baaaaaaaaaad.
	
	3. All players show up, the show is on, but someone 
	forgets his/her costume at home.

Yes.  Me.  Everyone else was in 3-piece show suits; I was in corduroy 
Levis and an Izod shirt.  Everyone thought I was with Talking Heads.  
:-)
	
	5. All players, with all their costumes, with all the pieces are 
	there and the show is on but we have no audience. We dance to an 
	empty room.

Too often to recall without shame & embarrassment!
	
	6. Everything is perfect, we have a full house but the audience 
	is depressed about the ozone layer and they watch us as they 
	would watch a doorknob.

Yes.  However, I had a tape unit patched into the mixer with 3 Stooges
clips of Moe smacking Curly around for just such occasions.  We'd fire off
a salvo during quiet parts of certain songs.  It usually worked.
	
	The Practice:
	
	1. At least one person does not show up.

Sure.  Very often.
	
One last thing... I had a 40-watt Traynor amp as a spare just in case 
something happened to one of the guitar amps.  One night Mark dumped a 
beer into his 50-watt Marshall, and the Traynor was put into service.  
Mark loved it so much, I never saw it again.  Those EL34s!  :-)  Served me
right for using tube amps for bass.

- craig (former bass player with "Joker" from Franklin, MA, ca. 1976)

                                   
537.19but we love it!MSBCS::STEINHARDTThu Nov 18 1993 22:1442
    Geez, where to start?....
    
    1) You show up for a gig where what your drummer thinks is the drum
    riser (for his 3,326 piece custom sonor kit), the club thinks is the
    entire stage.
    
    2) Your agent books you a gig playing a Prom, despite your best
    protestations that the material may be a tad bit heavy for a prom ("but
    they LOVED your demo, and the older sister of the class president saw the 
    band at Sanctuary and LOVED you"), you show up to find that the Prom
    has a "theme", which is "We've Got Tonight", and it has been promised
    that the band would play an extended version of "We've Got Tonight" by
    Bob Seager, which of course no one in the band really knows, let alone
    hasn't played before.  So at the appointed time, your lead guitarist
    figures that maybe "Stairway to Heaven" will do, despite the fact that
    the band hasn't played that before either.  He's actually pulling it
    off fairly well, until about 2/3 of the way through, he completely
    loses his place, stops, yells "*$^& this!", and instead we get saved by
    the bass player who seques into "Psycho Chicken" by The Fools, which we
    do pull off.  About 15% of the audience (and the band) are in
    hysterics, about 85% of the audience (including the Prom committee and
    the faculty) want to kill us.
    
    3)  Your very-single female lead singer decides that she likes what she
    sees among the herd that has gathered to drool at the front of the
    stage during a gig, and takes off between the 3rd and 4th sets, not to 
    be seen again until the next practice the following week.  "Ok, who
    wants the vocals on this one?"
    
    4)  Your agent books you for a private party at top $, because the
    purchasers (who are throwing a going away party for a friend) say
    they've seen the band and really want us to play.  They rent a large
    hall, and plan to pay the band from the entrance fee which is charged
    to everyone who comes (by invitation only, several hundred people). 
    When they send out the invitations, they put THE WRONG CITY on them, so
    only about 50 people show, and half of them went to the wrong city
    first.  Most had figured that they got the date wrong.  We get just
    enough to pay our sound company.
    
    Cheers,
    Ken