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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

493.0. "Concert/Performance Videos" by LEDS::BURATI (Cold Sweat Part III) Wed Sep 15 1993 13:56

    Hey kids, here's a place where we can talk about good and bad video
    tapes of performances by our favorite stars! Let's hear about 'em!
    I'll start...
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493.1LEDS::BURATICold Sweat Part IIIWed Sep 15 1993 14:0119
    Stop Making Sense is particularly good, even if you aren't a Talking
    Heads fan, which it almost turned me into.

    Clapton's 1985 show tapes at the Hartford Civic Center was rather lame.

    The Police's Synchronicity show at the Omni in Atlanta was a good one,
    if you like them.

    Some of the Prince's Trust shows were released as videos and are worth
    watching for some of the acts.

    
    But here's the real reason that I started this string:

    I watched the Knebworth Festival(?) a few years back and was really
    taken by Pink Floyd's set. Does anyone know if that show was released on
    tape?

    --Ron
493.2U2 Zooropa?POLAR::LOWWed Sep 15 1993 14:096
    I heard that U2 was supposed to do a Zoo TV special of Zooropa... Can
    anyone confirm/deny that. 
    
    Anyone have Madonna's Blonde Ambition on video that they would want to
    trade for?
    
493.3NACAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Wed Sep 15 1993 14:307
    I'll second the thumbs up for Stop Making Sense.  An incredible
    performance.
    
    I also love The Last Waltz.
    
    The Complete Beatles is an excellent documentary readily available in
    most video rental stores.
493.4oh yeah, don't forget Woodstock!EZ2GET::STEWARTIt's like bobbing for water!Wed Sep 15 1993 15:1242
    
    
    I've been buying these things for awhile now.  My favorite trick is to
    have a tape running and playing through the stereo with the screen off;
    the sound approaches CD quality, so most people assume it's a disk they
    hear playing.  At some later point I'll light up the big screen and
    there's the artist!  Particularly effective with Peter Gabriel's stuff.
    
    Tapes I really like (in no special order):
    
    "Janis" from MCA - a collection of performances & casual dialogue -
    makes me wish that I'd known her better
    
    "Moonshadows" - 5 tunes from Enya with great graphics, a pity that it's
    only 25 minutes long
    
    "Greatest Hits - The Video Collection" ZZ TOP - sounds good, looks
    great!
    
    "One World One Voice" - a chain tape, with musicians from around the
    world contributing (on location) to a single 53 minute song.  Lots of
    famous people on it...
    
    "The Cream of Eric Clapton" - has "Louise", "Cross Roads", "I Feel
    Free", "Sunshine of Your Love", and lots of other classics on it.
    
    "The Robert Cray Collection" - I didn't know this guy had enough videos
    to make up a tape, but here they are...
    
    "Bonnie Raitt - The Video Collection" - 7 VH1 staples
    
    "Pride and Joy" - Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble - this is the
    tape that has "Superstition" on it.
    
    "Bring on the Night" - Sting - you love him, you hate him and this tape
    is fuel for the fire either way.  The band is hot, and Sting is the
    same parochial, condescending (!) you already know.
    
    Oh, yeah, I already mentioned the Peter Gabriel stuff.  Really good,
    but some people get grossed out by the claymation-body-decomposition
    scenes.  It's just art, right?
    
493.5Manish BoyLEDS::BURATICold Sweat Part IIIWed Sep 15 1993 15:161
    Whoa! I forgot about The Last Waltz! Thanks.
493.6ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumWed Sep 15 1993 15:2020
    Stevie Ray Vaughan "Live at the Macomba", sp?
    
    The concert footage from Rainbow Bridge
    
    Jimi plays Berkeley
    
    A bootleg I have from Hendrix playing Madison Square garden. Quality
    leaves a bit to be desired but I'm not complaining.
    
    The Last Waltz
    
    Monterey
    
    Woodstock, though they missed some decent performances. Kinda hard to
    include the whole show.
    
    Many more but these came to mind.
    
    Jim C.
    
493.7does Sound of Music count ?OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUVariables won't Constants aren'tWed Sep 15 1993 15:4036
    
    I did it again. This time it is the Magical Mystery Tour. You can
    call it human behaviour but it was the devil in me ;-) I knew it
    was Beatles' first failure and a critical disaster but with my 
    daughter's encouragement, I am slowly completing the Beatles 
    collection.
    
    I have a question about the first US visit video; In the second
    Ed Sullivan show, when they first show up on stage they start
    fixing the drum platform (watching this was like a time travel,
    knowing how important they are today, I thought "Beatles show
    up and the stage is not ready") and then when they say "now
    we'll let Ringo sing", we don't hear Ringo at all. Why ? Did his
    microphone got unplugged while turning the platfrom around ?
    
    I once rented a Fleetwood Mac video, it was excellent, what a show.
    Even my mom liked Lindsey Buckingham. Stevie was fabulous, especially
    at the encore.
    
    I haven't watched my PG videos yet. I don't know why. I was keen on
    possessing them but now that I have them... I can watch them any time
    I want ;-)
    
    I am not very much into the video stuff. Some I'd like to have but
    I don't enjoy sitting down and watching for too long. Too passive
    for me. I like listening to music and reading for example. Or working.
    Whole summer (3 months) I did not watch any tv, that is how much I
    enjoy slowing down my metabolism.
    
    We have a lot of kid's music videos though. We have ALL of Disney's
    sing-alongs as well as classics like Beethoven Lives Upstairs or
    Peter and the Wolf.
    
    Good note, Ron. We needed this.
    
    Lale
493.8Washington D.C.?NACAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Wed Sep 15 1993 15:569
    re: -.1
    
    Not sure why you can't hear him, but from your description ("...
    turning the platform around...") that sounds not like a Sullivan
    performance but rather the Washington D.C. Coliseum performance a 
    few days after the first Sullivan show.  Was the Beatles' first concert
    in the US.
    
    							Marc
493.9YessongsDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootWed Sep 15 1993 16:578
    My favorite concert video is "Yessongs" by "Yes" which is available
    on video.
    
    Just seems to perfectly capture the bands live performances.
    
    I held off on getting a VCR for years after they became popular.
    
    I bought my first VCR when/because Yessongs was released on video.
493.10do you take requests?RICKS::CALCAGNIWill work for '59 Les PaulWed Sep 15 1993 17:265
    Wanted, early concert video of Jethro Tull.  Glenn Cornick on bass a
    must, Mick Abrahams on guitar a plus.  Has anyone seen anything like
    this?
    
    /rick
493.11VAXWRK::STHILAIREa sense of wonderWed Sep 15 1993 17:3814
    One of my favorite concert videos is David Bowie's Serious Moonlight,
    where he dresses in that white suit and sings all of his hits.  IMO,
    the way Bowie looks in this video is just about as good as it gets,
    too.   :-)
    
    I guess my all-time favorite concert video is the Van Morrison one. 
    It's of a concert he did in New York, in the 80's, after the release of
    his Avalon Sunset album, and Georgie Fame's band is backing him.  I
    like this because Van Morrison is my all-time favorite singer, but it
    wouldn't be for non-fans because all he does is stand there and sing. 
    There's no special effects or jumping around or anything.
    
    Lorna
    
493.12Some Tull To Look ForTECRUS::ROSTRaymond Burr 1917-1993 R.I.P.Wed Sep 15 1993 18:4917
    Re: .10
    
    There was a clip of Tull shown on American Bandstand with Cornick and
    *Tony Iommi* of Black Sabbath, who filled in for a few gigs between
    Abrahams and Martin Barre. The original source for this was probably
    the Stones' "Rock and Roll Circus" movie, which also had clips of the
    Who, Taj Mahal, and John Lennon with a version of the Plastic Ono Band
    with Clapton. I know the movie never got released, has it made it to
    videotape?
    
    There's also a Tull segment from an NBC special with the L.A.
    Philharmonic under Zubin Mehta that also had Santana and the Nice
    jamming with Jerry Goodman of the Flock!  They do "Bouree" as the theme
    was rock drawing form the classics. I doubt there is a legit tape of
    this, but maybe a boot is out there?
    
    							Brian
493.13NRSTA2::CLARKzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh? ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzWed Sep 15 1993 18:5516
re           <<< Note 493.6 by ICS::CROUCH "Subterranean Dharma Bum" >>>

>    Woodstock, though they missed some decent performances. Kinda hard to
>    include the whole show.
    
CCR, the Dead, Jefferson Airplane and (I think) Janis didn't make it onto
the Woodstock movie, but their performances were filmed and are available
on video ... for this and a bunch of other rock videos, send a SASE to

	Peter Abram
	561 Staples Avenue
	San Francisco, CA 94112

and he'll send you his list.

- DC who doesn't stand to profit, just a happy customer
493.14yeah, where's that "Mountain" footage!?RICKS::CALCAGNIWill work for '59 Les PaulWed Sep 15 1993 19:1611
    Just in case anyone isn't aware of this, the entire Woodstock
    festival from start to finish is on film; most of it has been sitting
    gathering dust all these years in someone's (Warner Bros?) vault.  Back
    around the 20th anniversary they showed a little of this stuff on TV.
    I recall seeing some Johnny Winter during the credits; I didn't even
    know he'd played there!
    
    Does this guy have everything available on video, or just more "select"
    acts?
    
    /rick
493.15VAXWRK::STHILAIREeverybody knows this is nowhereWed Sep 15 1993 19:339
    I just heard that the Bob Dylan Tribute is out on video.  I might
    actually buy a copy of that.  I enjoyed it a lot.  Last night on VH1 I
    saw one video from it, of Dylan, Petty, Clapton, Young a maybe a couple
    of others doing My Back Pages.  (I think Neil Young is still attractive
    for his age - not conventionally handsome - but he definitely has
    charisma.)
    
    Lorna
    
493.16LEDS::BURATICold Sweat Part IIIWed Sep 15 1993 20:067
>    saw one video from it, of Dylan, Petty, Clapton, Young a maybe a couple
>    of others doing My Back Pages.  

    Ooh, I just heard that track on the radio yesterday. Sounded *&^%$@!
    great. That tune has always knocked me out.

    --Ron
493.17NRSTA2::CLARKzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh? ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzWed Sep 15 1993 20:418
re       <<< Note 493.14 by RICKS::CALCAGNI "Will work for '59 Les Paul" >>>
                  -< yeah, where's that "Mountain" footage!? >-

>    Does this guy have everything available on video, or just more "select"
>    acts?
    
One of the video tapes he has available is "Woodstock Outtakes," which only
has the four bands I mentioned in my last note.
493.18CADSYS::FENNELLIn memory of #28Wed Sep 15 1993 20:4913
I like Rattle and Hum by U2, must be the only person who does though...

I second Stevie Ray Vaughan Live at the El Macambo, and Yessongs.

Aerosmith's Unplugged special on MTV

Guns N Roses Live at the Ritz

Montery Pop is kind of dated, but has some good stuff.

I'm still looking for a copy of the Danish TV special Led Zep boot circa 1968

Tim
493.19LEDS::BURATICold Sweat Part IIIWed Sep 15 1993 20:5712
    Anyone know how the sound/image quality of Montery Pop compares with the
    Woodstock film?

    I believe Woodstock was shot in 16mm and was recorded on a 1961 Webcor
    (just kidding about the Webcor). They had one long shot camera on a boom
    located about 60 feet out from center stage (which was about 40 feet and
    nearly directly in front of me) and one or two hand-held units on stage
    which account for most of that *EXTREME* closeup work. It's great for
    historical purposes though. I saw it when it came out. I guess I'd like
    to own a copy. I certainly would like to see it again.

    --Ron
493.20Rattling and Humming!AIMHI::KERRCaught In The CrossfireWed Sep 15 1993 21:047
    .-1
    
    No, I like Rattle and Hum too.  I just watched it again the other
    night.  And, SRV at the El Macombo is my favorite (but, I don't have
    Pride and Joy yet).
    
    
493.21NRSTA2::CLARKzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh? ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzWed Sep 15 1993 21:138
Monterey Pop has been on PBS several times.  Unfortunately my copy of it
is pretty bad.  :^/  From what I remember of it (actually I haven't seen
Woodstock in a while), it wasn't much better or worse than Woodstock ... not
quite as many of the annoying split-screen effects, though.

I hear that the Monterey Pop soundtrack has been out on CD for a few months.

- DC
493.22a fewMAGEE::OSTIGUYThu Sep 16 1993 03:0319
    Good topic !!!
    
    Anything by The Beatles
    
    another vote for YesSongs
    
    Genesis - A History, live clips, interviews and more, a Must for any
    serious Genesis fan
    
    Todd Rundgren - Live in Japan  from the "Nearly Human" tour, an
    excellent band, great toonz, I taped this on cassette for the
    truck...sort of like having an extra live CD...
    
    The LAst Waltz - a must see...Period
    
    Genesis - The Mama Tour   I think their best live video, although I
    have not seen the new We Can't Dance/Way We Walk  tour video
    
    so many more...
493.23ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumThu Sep 16 1993 12:076
    re: .13
    
    Thanks, maybe I'll take a chance.
    
    Jim C.
    
493.24[?64;1;2;6;7;8;9;15;18;19;21cOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUVariables won't Constants aren'tThu Sep 16 1993 14:4415
    ref. .8
    
    Hi Marc,
    
    I guess I meant the second show on the tape. The third show on the tape
    was the second Ed Sullivan show, I think. Anyway, no, you can't hear
    Ringo. He is singing "I wanna be your man" and you can see him tearing
    his throat apart but you can barely hear him. When the other 3 start
    singing the chorus (or their part) you hear them very clearly, when
    it's Ringo's turn again, the sound goes down. We watched this part over
    and over again with a bunch of people. We discussed if Ringo was aware
    of the situation. Maybe he would have stopped if he knew. He is
    screaming but we can't hear it. A very obvious difference between the
    others' sounds and his. When they played with the platform, could it be
    that they unplugged something ? 
493.25screaming teenybobbersRANGER::WESTERVELTThu Sep 16 1993 18:377
    Ah, "unplugged" before its time!   ;-)

    Anyway, from what I understand it was practically impossible for
    the band to hear themselves at all.  There were no monitors for 
    them.  And I doubt the audience heard anything either.  What do
    you think?
493.26the majority of the audience is femaleOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUVariables won't Constants aren'tThu Sep 16 1993 19:0116
    
    First of all, Tom, I could never find that scene with John strumming
    Strawberry Fields. 
    
    >And I doubt the audience heard anything either.  
    
    The girls are screaming like crazy ;-) My daughter and her friend Liza
    and myself are on the sofa eating popcorn and watching this tape. It
    was when the "concert etiquette" topic was hot in this conference.
    Liza asked my daughter if she would scream like that had she been
    amongst the audience. My daughter shook her shoulders as in "I dunno".
    I said "screaming in concerts is not nice". My daughter turned to me
    and said "they are not screaming screaming, they are happy, they love
    Beatles".
    
    Lale
493.27VAN MORRISONAKOCOA::CHENARDThu Sep 23 1993 19:3421
    Best all time one is THE LAST WALTZ
    
    I to like U2's Rattle & Hum
    
    Note 493.11   
    
    <<  I guess my all-time favorite concert video is the Van Morrison one.
        It's of a concert he did in New York, in the 80's, after the
        release of his Avalon Sunset album, and Georgie Fame's band is 
        backing him.  I like this because Van Morrison is my all-time 
        favorite singer, but it wouldn't be for non-fans because all he 
        does is stand there and sing. There's no special effects or 
        jumping around or anything. >>
    
    I have become a big fan of Van Morrison in the last couple of
    years.  What is the name of the video that you mention or is
    it the same at the album - Avalon Sunset?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mo
493.28i'll checkVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsThu Sep 23 1993 20:267
    re .27, I'll have to look at it tonight.  I can't remember what the
    exact title is, but I think it's the only one that he has out, at least
    in the US.   I've watched it dozens of times, but can't remember the
    title!
    
    Lorna
    
493.29Insane In The MembraneAYOV11::SROBERTSONFri Sep 24 1993 06:3420
    
    RE -.1
    
    	I watched that Knebworth programme and never liked PF - they are
    really dull on record.But once I'd seen them on this I was knocked out
    - thought they were fantastic - and I taped it.
    
    I went out and bought the video Delicate Sound Of Thunder - and the
    Double CD.I can't recommend these highly enough - if you liked
    knebworth then you'll love this - it is a perfect performance,stunning 
    effects - the lasers are out of this world - brilliant sound - an
    excellent list of songs including all there best plus One Slip - Signs
    Of Life and a performance of Great Gig In The Sky that still makes the
    hairs stand on end!
    
    The cd and video have some different songs on each - buy them both.
    
    
    
    					Stuart.
493.30Ring was competing against too many fans!COMET::BERRYDwight BerrySun Sep 26 1993 22:4710
    re:  .8
    
    Ringo's mic wasn't performing well and the fans were drowning him out.
    They didn't have much audio equipment in those days, and plenty
    screaming girls.  They were fixing the mic and moving the drums around
    on the stage as they were told to rotate for the crowd.  Ringo nearly
    pulled his back out turning the gizmo that supported his drums.
    
    It was the Washington DC concert, not the Sullivan show.
    
493.31VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsMon Sep 27 1993 12:276
    re .27, it's just called "Van Morrison, The Concert."  I think it's the
    only video he has out.  It has a great rendition of "Summertime In
    England/Common One/A Town Called Paradise."
    
    Lorna
    
493.32VAN MORRISONAKOCOA::CHENARDTue Sep 28 1993 18:484
    Thanks Lorna, I will be on the look-out for it.
    
    Mo
    
493.333 Good Concert VideosVAXWRK::STHILAIREso why can't we?Tue Nov 02 1993 18:4924
    When I was out sick last week, I finally got around to renting The Last
    Waltz and watching it.  I had been planning to watch it for years, and
    just never got around to it, and then I wound-up watching it 3 times in
    one week!!  I loved it, especially the performances by Van Morrison (he
    looked so young then - he had hair and wasn't fat!!), and Neil Young. 
    But, the thing that struck me the most about The Last Waltz is --- Why
    didn't anybody ever tell me how cute Robbie Robertson was????  :-)
    My god, he was adorable!!  I had always heard of him, for years, but
    never bothered to find out what he looked like, and now I find out he
    was seriously attractive.  That concert was performed in 1976.  Does
    anybody know what he looks like now?  Has he weathered the years well? 
    I just can't help but wonder.  Checking out good looking rock stars is
    sort've a hobby for me.  :-)
    
    I, also, bought The Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Celebration double video
    set, and I love that, especially the performances by Neil Young and Tom
    Petty & The Heartbreakers.
    
    And, I, also, bought the Neil Young Unplugged video which I drool over
    from time to time, because I have this weird affliction where I'm crazy
    about Neil Young.
    
    Lorna
    
493.34TPSYS::CLARKCan you picture what will be?Wed Nov 03 1993 12:001
Whoa, how'd I end up in the "Studs" notesfile?!?
493.35the frosting on the cakeVAXWRK::STHILAIREso why can't we?Wed Nov 03 1993 12:465
    re .34, it's part of rock'n'roll.  There's always going to be women who
    find certain rock stars attractive.  It's part of the fun.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    
493.36TPSYS::CLARKCan you picture what will be?Wed Nov 03 1993 14:532
re -.1   Oh, OK, I get it.  Kind of like software engineering.

493.37Levon hated itROCK::ANDERSONWed Nov 03 1993 15:4412
I recently read a book review of a book by Levon Helm about his days with  The
Band (this is differert from the book about The Band that came out   a few
months back) and it said that Levon talks alot about how "The Last Waltz" was 
really Robbie Robertson's pet project, meant to showcase him, and the rest of
the band (or at least Levon) wasn't interested in it at all and many of the
performances were dubbed over later.  Reading that definitely spoiled my
feelings about what I've always thought was a really enjoyable and different 
concert movie.  Hope I didn't ruin it for the  rest of you now.

Walker

493.38LEDS::BURATIlay back and dream on a rainy dayWed Nov 03 1993 16:268
    WELL, YOU HAVE! HAPPY?

    Seriously though, having always been a devoted fan of the Band, I
    thought that it was the other performances that make the movie
    especially good. Van Morrison and Muddy Waters are my two favorite
    parts. What was the name of the book?

    --Ron
493.39VAXWRK::STHILAIREso why can't we?Wed Nov 03 1993 16:5516
    re .38, my favorite parts are Van Morrison and Neil Young.
    
    re .37, is that the book called This Wheel's On Fire?
    
    You haven't spoiled anything for me.  If The Last Waltz was meant to
    showcase Robbie Robertson it certainly accomplished it's goal!!
    
    BTW, to answer my own question, I checked out Robbie "where have you
    been all my life?" :-) Robertson's two CD's at lunch, and judging by
    the pictures he still looks pretty good for a middle-aged guy.  Back
    when they made The Last Waltz he was incredibly attractive and
    personable though.  Bet he never had any trouble getting girls on the
    road!
    
    Lorna
    
493.40TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPWed Nov 03 1993 17:2910
re: .39

>    BTW, to answer my own question, I checked out Robbie "where have you
>    been all my life?" :-) Robertson's two CD's at lunch, and judging by
    
Just be warned, though.  His solo stuff doesn't sound anything like
The Band.  I didn't say it's bad, just different.

-Hal    

493.41NACAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Wed Nov 03 1993 23:246
    re: -.1
    
    True, not a whole lot like the Band.  A bit more new-agey, but great
    songwriting and guitar playing (shouldn't come as a surprise).
    
    						Marc
493.42SorryROCK::ANDERSONThu Nov 04 1993 15:4818
re .38

>>     WELL, YOU HAVE! HAPPY?

Sorry.

>> What was the name of the book?

If you mean the Levon Helm book, sorry, I can't remember.  At least the
author's name is easy to remember when you go to find it at your local book
store.  

The other book  that came out a few months back was called something like
"Across the Great Divide: The Band in America" (not real sure about that title)
and I'm not sure who wrote it.  Not a band member.

Walker