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Title:MUSIC V4
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Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

417.0. "Rod Stewart" by RANGER::WESTERVELT (just a state of mind) Thu May 06 1993 15:02

    Surprised to see no Rod Stewart topic.  What'd folks think of
    Unplugged (aired last night)?  I thought it was pretty good.
    I haven't been a Stewart fan for a long time (since the first
    3 albums I guess) and it was great to see Ron Wood up there.

    Good article in today's Boston Globe too about Rod.  He claims
    he's going to be doing a project with Beck!


    Tom
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417.1LEDS::BURATIWhat's that...Hawaiian noises...Thu May 06 1993 16:405
    Didn't see the show but heard "Cut Across Shorty" the other day on the
    radio and it sounded real good. Like those Small Faces days. Always
    liked that tune.

    --Ron
417.2ANGLIN::HARRISAuser viciousThu May 06 1993 16:4217
    i saw parts of the show and liked what i saw. i taped it, so i'll watch
    it over the weekend.
    
    been a fan since the 'gasoline alley' days. first saw him on the "hot
    legs" tour at the orpheum in boston (or was it the wang center. 
    got some great pictures.  i rememeber that when people started to rush
    the stage to take pictures the security tried to push the people back,
    but rod said "let the people take pictures".
    
    i've seen him a few times since then. the lastest being last year here
    in minneapolis.  still works real hard on stage - still kicks those
    darn socceer balls.
    
    he was on letterman last week. quite entertaining.  did a great
    rendition on "maggie may".
    
    	ann
417.3Wotta show...NWD002::TUTAK_PEItchycoo Park RangerThu May 06 1993 19:2942
    
    Saw Rod only twice...once was with the Beck group at the Fillmore East
    in what was either late '68 or early '69. The other was at the same
    venue in '71 with the Small Faces (Black Sabbath opened and 'If' were
    the second band).
    
    I know I didn't think too much of Rod in the JBG show, but I remember
    Beck being really flash--and they did 'Beck's Bolero', which was my
    favorite tune at the time.
    
    The Small Faces show was utter enjoyment. I had heard 'First Step' some
    time before and WNEW-FM was playing stuff off the album all the time.
    I thought Stewart's voice was the perfect instrument to front that
    group, so I went. The orchestra seats were $5.50, and I still have my
    stub tucked in a scrapbook. Anyway, they were marvelous, and very
    drunk. Some of the show highlights were Ronnie Wood tripping backwards
    over a cable and going flat on his butt during his slide solo in
    'Around the Plynth' (much to the band's amusement and applause from the
    crowd),& beautiful versions of tunes like 'Flying', 'Handbags and Gladrags',
    and 'Maybe I'm Amazed' (with Rod drunkenly but affectionately draping his 
    arm around Ronnie Lane's shoulder while they both sang the verses thru
    the same mike).
    
    They got called back for an encore which I could have sworn was 'Stay
    with Me' (even though that tune wasn't released for another year or
    two). In any event, the Fillmore staff had raised the light screen that
    always formed the stage backdrop because they were going to apparently
    start preparing to break down the stage equipment. This left about half
    a dozen road and stage crew in full view of the audience when the
    lights dimmed. I distinctly remember the audience on their feet dancing
    in the aisles and seats (which was really out of character for a Fillmore
    audience), and about 15 of the stage crew winding up dancing way up on 
    the stage catwalk which was in full view to everyone with the light 
    screen up.
    
    It was one of the best shows I'd ever been to, period. But I never
    saw him or the Faces again. I still think 'Gasoline Alley', 'The RS
    Album', 'First Step' and 'Every Picture' are his definitive works, 
    IMHO.
    
    Peter
                                  
417.4LEDS::BURATIWhat's that...Hawaiian noises...Fri May 07 1993 02:574
    Saw Stewart with the Small Faces in Boston (Tea Party) around '70. Great
    show. Great R&R band and, yes, Stewart was a perfect fit for them. Too
    bad about that late seventies-early eighties period. Rod must have just
    been into the $$$ and chicks for free. Awww, who can really blame 'im.
417.5his wife was 1yr. old when GA was releasedWBC::DEADYCan't Do A Thing To Stop MeMon May 10 1993 14:2114
    
    I heard over the weekend that the UNPLUGGED Rod Stewart show may be
    released on CD. I too saw RS perform in 1970 for his Gasoline Alley
    tour. I was 15 years old and my friend's older sister, and her girl
    friends had to take us along to use the car ;-) The concert was at the
    Birmingham Paladium and seated about 300 people. The concert was either
    on Halloween or Halloween eve, Rod and his band mates "tossed" several
    dozen small pumpkins into the audience. Great concert and I began
    looking for the album poste haste. If I could only listen to one artist
    or group for the rest of my life it would have to be Stewart. The
    Story Teller Anthology box set is great.
    
    			fred deady
             
417.6Rod Stewart Tour 1993CSLALL::ROBBINSWed May 19 1993 17:284
    Rod Stewart's planning a 75-date in-the-round tour of amphitheaters
    and arenas from August to December of 1993.Stay tuned.
                                          
                                            Dean
417.7Rod Stewart to play Great WoodsCSLALL::ROBBINSThu Jun 24 1993 12:383
    Rod Stewart/Ron Wood together at Great Woods Sept 17/Sept 18 with
    Patty Smyth.Tix on sale MON June 28 at Ticketmaster and
    G.Woods Box Office(Mansfield,Mass).
417.8VAXWRK::STHILAIREwandering spiritMon Jun 28 1993 20:199
    Both shows are sold out.  I didn't get tix.  :-(
    
    One of the ticket agencies I called (scalpers) wants $70. to $90. a
    ticket.  They even want $37.50 for the lawn which, in my experience, is
    a waste of time because if you're less than 7 ft. tall, you can't see
    anything and get trampled.
    
    Lorna
    
417.9WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Tue Jun 29 1993 01:583
    
    Is Ron Wood really coming to GW?  I though I heard Lacquidera saying
    something about Rod being solo here...
417.10lyrics are so cheezyOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUOnly the fools are satisfiedSun Jul 18 1993 20:393
    I truly hate his new hit (!). Is he losing his talent too ?
    
    I am Kate Thompson and I was just passing by.
417.12VAXWRK::STHILAIREa period of transitionMon Jul 19 1993 15:075
    re .11, I love the lyrics of that song, but think Rod STewart's version
    is extremely inferior to Van's.
    
    Lorna
    
417.13relax, it's a joke.OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUOnly the fools are satisfiedMon Jul 19 1993 16:018
    
>    \Rod's_CA_Cousin
    
    Naah, I don't think so. Rod Stewart is the sexiest guy on earth.
    
    ;-)
    
    Lale
417.15you are not doing anything kinky, are you ?OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUOnly the fools are satisfiedMon Jul 19 1993 17:444
    
    I thought there were laws against that.
    
    
417.16I was there too, but one day too late ;-)OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUI don't eat my fellow mammals.Tue Aug 24 1993 01:0011
    
    From what I read in the paper and heard on the radio, Rod was
    excellent, Saturday night in Ottawa. They say that his voice
    was better than the couple of previous shows. Obviously he can't
    remain unplugged and seated for long. The DJ said that he looked
    tired and old (don't shoot the messenger) and that "do you think
    I'm sexy?" was conspicuously absent ;-)
    
    Actually, Rose was planning to go. How did you like the show, Rose ?
    
    Lale
417.17poor RodVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsWed Aug 25 1993 19:326
    Maybe it's wearing him out trying to hold on to that young wife.  :-)
    
    (who was a yr. old the first time he did some of his songs)
    
    Lorna
    
417.18He did'nt make it because of his vocal talents!!PCBOPS::OUELLETTEThu Sep 02 1993 16:009
    
    
       >They said his voice was better than the couple of previous shows.
    
    
    		Trust me, it can ONLY improve!!
    
    		Talk abouit a vocal nightmare!!
    
417.19LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Thu Sep 02 1993 16:1517
>                                       -< He did'nt make it because of his vocal talents!! >-
>    		Trust me, it can ONLY improve!!
>    		Talk abouit a vocal nightmare!!

    Sez you. My opinion is when given the right material, he's got a great
    singing voice. For example, his cover of Robbie Robertson's "Broken
    Arrow". Although I wasn't wild about the instrumental arrangement on
    that recording, Rod's vocal treatment of it more than made up for it. I
    would have liked to have heard his vocals over Robertson's original
    backing tracks. It's a great tune to begin with.

    Stewart's main problem  for the last 10 or 15 years, has been covering
    lame material. I saw him twice perform in small clubs in the 70/71 time
    period (with the Small Faces) and both nights were great performances.

    --Ron

417.20Don't beleive what you hear from a recording studioPCBOPS::OUELLETTEThu Sep 02 1993 16:4218
    
    
    	I don't know about 1970/71 time frame. At least as for as
    	live stuff. (was only around 8 years old) But what I have
    	been hearing coming of of his mouth latly is down right
    	raunchy...
    
    	I have been classically trained and currently being trained
    	by one of the best in the business. (IMO) And honestly feel
    	I can distiguish a good controlled voice when I hear one..
    
    	Maybe he voice is just getting beat from all the years. And
    	if it is, it's from singing incorrectly all these years..
    
    	You could be right.. He may need to be alittle more selective
    	with his music in the future. 
    
    		Bill
417.21MANTHN::EDDLook out fellas, it's shredding time...Thu Sep 02 1993 17:2813
    Rod Stewart has what I can only desribe as a "non descript rock 
    voice".
    
    While I'd hardly rank him up with some of my fave vocalists (Janis
    Siegel, Barbara Striesand, and currently Suzanne Davis), he's a
    far cry more listenable than some of the screechers getting airplay
    today. (Axl Rose, the guy from AC/DC...)
    
    Some of his early stuff (the overplayed "Maggie May", "Los Paraguayos")
    I still dig, but as he moved into the 80's I simply don't notice him
    and more...
    
    Edd
417.23i like his voiceVAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsThu Sep 02 1993 17:437
    I like how his voice sounds, regardless of whether he would be
    considered to be a technically good singer, or not.  I like how it
    sounds.  As simple as that.  And, I guess a lot of other people do,
    too.  He's been selling out concerts for over 20 yrs.
    
    Lorna
    
417.24LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Thu Sep 02 1993 17:4821
.20> Maybe he voice is just getting beat from all the years. And
.20> if it is, it's from singing incorrectly all these years..

    No, his voice has always been raspy. But for me music is more than the
    clinical quality of an instrument's timbre. Much more. But it's all so
    subjective. To my ears, listening to Janis Joplin singing was always an
    unpleasant experience. But that's because I could find nothing redeming
    about her vocal work. Her treament of "blues" tunes sounded contrived.

    Rod Stewart's voice is just an instrument, one that maybe was in someway
    damaged somewhere along the way. But he's learned how to use it
    musically, much the way someone that's never played anything but a
    busted up old instrument has grown comfortable playing it over the
    years. If a "master" picks it up they might say "I can't play this lousy
    thing". But the old man that's been playing it for 60 years picks it up
    and wonderful musical ideas come forth.

    One must get past the speaker, amplifier, recording quality, instrument
    quality, etc, and get to the music. That's what it's all about.

    --Ron
417.25COMPLX::FERRISThu Sep 02 1993 18:1711
    
    
     I like Rod's vocal style alot. I saw him a few weeks ago in Denver.
    Music for me would be pretty boring if EVRYONE was formally trained,
    and besides who cares? I agree with .24 that its style alot more than
    quality to me. I think everyone could agree that the same song, sung
    by different people have totally different sounds. To me thats what
    makes music intresting.
    
                              mike
    
417.26Like lots of groups and songs. Just wish I could change the singer.PCBOPS::OUELLETTEThu Sep 02 1993 18:2519
    
    
    
    	I guess it all depends where you focus...
    
    	Many get caught up in the tune/beat and disregard the quality of
    	the vocals. It's easy to do.. As a teenager I payed no attention
    	to the quality of the lead singer, paying more attention to the
    	quality/speed/sound of the guitar leads and riffs. As I got older
    	*and wiser ;-)* I discovered the beauty of a properly trained,
    	gifted voice. Which SHOULD be able to sing almost anything and
    	sound great.. 
    
    	That why the music at most rock concerts are so loud......
    
    	Hey, different strokes! Right?
    
    
    	Bill
417.27What do you want from a drunken gravedigger anyway?BOVES::FENNELLIn memory of #28Thu Sep 02 1993 19:159
Wasn't Rod "discovered" at age 28 in a railroad station drunkenly singing old
blues tunes?

I like his voice (and Janis' too), but I couldn't carry a tune in a wheelbarrow
myself, so I'm not a good judge.

I even like Noddy Holder from Slade.  Now that's a raspy voice!

Tim
417.28different strokes, not right or wrong strokesCSLALL::WEWINGThu Sep 02 1993 19:1812
    bill, do you like joe cocker's 'music'?  i set out 'music' since
    you may not consider his voice music ;-)
    
    beauty is in the ear of the beholder.
    
    a photograph may have perfect quality but some people would
    prefer the painting.
    
    we probably all agree that popular music isn't 'correct' musically,
    but if it makes you smile and tap your feet, play on.
    
    willie
417.29discovered at age 14CADSYS::PRUNIERThu Sep 02 1993 20:0124
RE: .27  (Wasn't Rod "discovered" at age 28 in a railroad station drunkenly
	 singing old blues tunes?)

	Yes he was discovered in a train station , but not at age 28 but
	age 14 by non other than "Long John" Baldry , noted English piano
	player/blues singer.  John was called "long" because he was 6'7".

	I have one of Long Johns albums with Rod singing backup 1963/64
	timeframe I think.  Its a great album.  Johns one and only "hit"
	in America was "Don't Lay No Boogie Woogie on the King of Rock
	and Roll".    When I say hit I mean it got airplay.

	I have seen Rod twice, both times I enjoyed myself completely.
	I will agree however that his voice is not what it once was.
	If you compare the unplugged session with the same tunes on the
	original cuts you find there are many notes he can't (or doesn't)
	hit anymore.

	Morning Dew, Blues Deluxe etc from Truth were great, but I doubt
	if Rod could still sing those tunes.

	Regards
	Shakey Steve
417.30USPMLO::DESROCHERSThu Sep 02 1993 20:1212
    
    	I remember Long John Baldry from a Beatles special - it might
    	be the one where they did that Shakespeare play.  Also, some
    	female singing "My Boy Lollipop".  Anyone know what song Baldry
    	sang - I can hear his voice but don't remember the song.
    
    	Btw, I'm a Rod Stewart fan since Truth.  Surprisingly, he's one
    	of my Mom's favorites.  Anyone remember "Reason to Believe" by
    	the Wild Weeds?  Ahhh, going to the George at Misquamicut when
    	I was 15.  That was Al Anderson's old band...
    
    
417.31the roosterCSLALL::WEWINGThu Sep 02 1993 20:156
    'my boy lollipop' - was that millie small (or something like that)?
    
    when rod was 'the rooster', he was hot.
    when rod was 'do you think i'm sexy' and 'hot legs', yecch!!
    
    willie
417.32LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Thu Sep 02 1993 20:4619
>    	of my Mom's favorites.  Anyone remember "Reason to Believe" by
>    	the Wild Weeds?  Ahhh, going to the George at Misquamicut when
>    	I was 15.  That was Al Anderson's old band...

    Hey, YOU BET! I used to play the George back around '70. Before their
    first LP, we often shared the bill with the J. Geils Band. It was a
    happening place. "Ahhh", is right.

    The Wild Weeds where a great band! To this day "No Good to Cry" gives me
    shivers to even think of it. Al Anderson is rapidly becoming an American
    guitar legend. Neal Orsi just told me that John Hiatt mentions big Al in
    a mini interview in the new issue of Guitar Player. Al was just a
    teenager back when he wrote "No Good to Cry", albeit a rather large
    teenager. NRBQ still performs No Good to Cry, thank God. I don't recall
    them doing "Reason to Believe", but I only heard them once and it was in
    '68.

    --Ron

417.33Not all look for beauty anyway...PCBOPS::OUELLETTEThu Sep 02 1993 20:5816
    Yes Willie, I like Joe Cocker's MUSIC....Lots of his tunes are cool
    		and with a good meaning. But his voice?  It does nothing
    		for me..
    
    		I like it clean, clear and well controlled. Up and down the
    		scale. With no physical signs of strain or effort. Power is
    		a plus, but it also needs to have a softness to it when the
    	        song calls for it.
    
    		I've also heard recorded vocals that I loved until I heard
    		them live and was shocked. Jon Sacatta (sp) for one.....
    		I still like his voice, but he strains more then I
                thought.. 
    
    
    		Bill 
417.34PENUTS::DDESMAISONSThu Sep 02 1993 21:1612
    
  >>  a photograph may have perfect quality but some people would
  >>  prefer the painting.


	How right you are.

	I love Joe's voice.  "Woodstock", when he steps up to the
	mike after that long intro to "A Little Help From My Friends"
	and sings "What would you do..." - perfect.  Perfect pitch,
	perfect tone.  So evocative.

417.35LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Thu Sep 02 1993 21:589
>"A Little Help From My Friends"

    Every so often, an artist picks up a tune that is a perfect vehicle for
    his/her talents. Joe Cocker doing "A Little Help From My Friends" is
    agreat example of this. Maybe "Maggie May" is another. I'm *certain*
    that Hendrix' recording of "All Along the Watchtower" is one. Lennon
    wrote his own with "In My Life".

    --Ron
417.36Notes from the ancientsMSBCS::ASHFORTHFri Sep 03 1993 02:1618
    I feel like I'm in a time warp or sumpin.
    
    For me once Rod became "popular" it was all downhill. His voice *and*
    style are perfect for hard (*real* hard) blues, in which both his raspy
    vocal quality and style of delivery are untouchable. Coupled with bland
    "pop pap," it's a strong "station scan" stimulus.
    
    Quintessential Stewart song? "Ain't Superstitious" with Beck.
    
    And WRT singing ability, there's technique and then there's talent,
    which ain't the same. Control and classical training are less relevant
    in some musical genres than the ability to feel and project emotion,
    which Rod can do better than many controlled, technically excellent
    (but dry) singers. O' course, all of that means squat when you try to
    apply it to drivel like "Maggie May!" (IMHO, Sorry to anyone who
    actually (shuuder!) likes it.)
    
    Bob
417.37Should have stuck to R&B!PAVONE::TURNERFri Sep 03 1993 11:5842
    
    Surely this is a classic case of "horses for courses"?
    
    It's all very well talking about "clean, controlled singing", but
    you've got to remember that Rod Stewart's roots are in blues/R&B and
    there can be little doubt that his voice is perfectly suited (also from
    a *technical* point of view) to this genre. I'm sure we'd all have a
    rare time listening to Luciano Paverotti or Placido Domingo chanting
    their way through a selection of Muddy Waters songs...and generally
    making a pig's ear of it!
    
    The early/mid-sixties was a pretty florid period for this type of music
    in Britain (esp. London) and there was a huge band of enthusiasts that
    included Rod Stewart, Brian Auger, Alexis Korner, Long John Baldry,
    Eric Clapton, Chris Farlowe, Peter Green, Steve Winwood, Graham Bond,
    Mick Jagger...and so on. IMHO, much of the best work by these artists was 
    recorded at this time. 
    
    I recently came across a compilation with the pretentious title
    "History of the White Blues", which basically contains outtakes and
    rarities recorded by many of the above musicians before they achieved
    real fame. There's a selection from (I think) Steampacket, featuring a
    young Rod Stewart, that literally takes your breath away. I happened to
    have it on in my flat when a couple of friends popped by, and the
    beneral consensus was "Strewth! What a voice! Who is it?"
    
    Sure, I agree with a previous note that said that Rod's lost a little
    something since the sixties, but I think his prime sin is his
    preoccupation with material that is not appropriate for his voice. Of
    course, the smell of $ has much to do with it!
    
    I'd personally give thumbs up to Rod, Steve Winwood (in particular!),
    Joe Cocker, Chris Farlowe and several other "blue-eyed" soul singers -
    some reservations about Eric Burden (occasional bum notes). Pick of the
    bunch, IMO, is the little-known Eddie Hinton, a white American who's
    about as near as you can get today to Otis Redding.
    
    Sure, I wouldn't want to hear these guys singing Gilbert and
    Sullivan...just as I wouldn't be too interested in Segovia's attempts at
    bluegrass picking!
    
    Dom
417.38Example, PleaseTECRUS::ROSTGoing to hell in your heavenly armsFri Sep 03 1993 12:0520
    Re: .33
    
    For sake of clarity here, could you give us an example of a *rock*
    singer (not pop or jazz) who has the kind of vocal qualities you like?
    
    Listening to rock and pop recordings is deceptive.  Most singers make
    great use of overdubs. I remember an interview with Roy Hallee, who
    engineered many albums for Simon and Garfunkel (together and solo).  He
    claims that the song "Bridge Over Troubled Waters" featured a vocal
    performance that was punched in *phrase by phrase*.  And that was in
    the days when you at least had to be able to sing it right once.  Now
    with samplers, pitch shifters, etc. if you can come "close" they can
    "fly in" a corrected part (and I'm not talking about rap music where
    the use of sampled vocals is real obvious).  
    
    The same holds true for instruments, too.  I remember how surprised
    people were when "Led Zeppelin II" came out on CD and you could hear
    all the splices in the guitar solos.
    
    								Brian
417.39isn't this the rod stewart noteCSLALL::WEWINGFri Sep 03 1993 13:4517
    bill
    
    just want to stress that i (and i assume the others) are not
    questioning the lack of 'musical quality' voices in rock and
    roll.  we are just saying we like we what we like.  
    
    i got the feeling you were putting down most rock because
    it is not technically right.  if that is your attitude,
    i am picking on that attitude.  
    
    "if it pleases you, it's good music"
    
    willie
    
    p.s. - voice aside, i don't get this whole john secada thing but
    more power to him.  i wouldn't go across the street to hear him
    but wouldn't run over anyone who was ;-)
417.40Whether you like him or not!PAVONE::TURNERFri Sep 03 1993 16:0717
417.41LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Fri Sep 03 1993 16:087
.36> (but dry) singers. O' course, all of that means squat when you try to
.36> apply it to drivel like "Maggie May!" (IMHO, Sorry to anyone who
.36> actually (shuuder!) likes it.)
    
    That's just a tad bit condescending, Bob, if you don't mind my saying
    so.

417.42Well I (shudder) liked it...PAVONE::TURNERFri Sep 03 1993 16:1413
    
    Re: .41
    
    >That's just a tad bit condescending, Bob, if you don't mind my saying
    >so.
    
    Agreed. It may not have been his finest hour, but a pretty good record
    in it's own right. 
    
    Compared with some of the No. 1s of recent years, it was a bloody
    masterpiece!
    
    Dom
417.43DIO!!!!!!PCBOPS::OUELLETTEFri Sep 03 1993 16:5316
    
    
    .38
    
    
    	Hey I love rock music!!! Im not bashing it, just the uncontrolled
    	untalented vocals that seem to make it by the songs, or the talent
    	of there bands.
    
    	My favorite??? Ronny James Dio!!!!!  Infreakincredible!!!
    	Nice, clear, jump out and knock ya on your ass voice....
    
    	There are a few more, but his voice is tops for a rocker..
    
    	Bill
    	
417.44who?LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Fri Sep 03 1993 17:220
417.45Poor ol' MaggieMSBCS::ASHFORTHFri Sep 03 1993 17:3214
Re Maggie May and condescension:

Nah, I don't condescend- that implies a superior and an inferior position,
rather than difference of opinion between individuals. Just expressing my
opinion, as both a listener and a songwriter. I find the tune, the words, the
"story" less than compelling. Rod's unique sound is about the *only* redeeming
quality to the tune that I can hear.

If others find it anything above tiresome, I'm glad you enjoy it, and please
chalk my opinion up as a cross-reference to the "I don't get it" note. But please\
*don't* condescend by calling me condescending! Sorry you took it that way, I was
simply stating (as I am wont to do) my oh-so-candid opinion.

Bob
417.46VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; DiamondsFri Sep 03 1993 17:417
    re .40, both times I've seen U2 perform live, Bono's voice sounded fine
    to me.   In fact, it sounded a lot better than Rod Stewart's did the
    two times I saw him perform live.  I like Rod Stewart's voice, but I
    *love* Bono's.
    
    Lorna
    
417.47LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Fri Sep 03 1993 17:468
.36> (but dry) singers. O' course, all of that means squat when you try to
.36> apply it to drivel like "Maggie May!" (IMHO, Sorry to anyone who
.36> actually (shuuder!) likes it.)
     ^^^^^^^^

    Well Bob, maybe it's this "actually" that gives your reply it's
    condescending tone.

417.48Your showing your age... Or ignorance..PCBOPS::OUELLETTEFri Sep 03 1993 17:5514
    
    
    
    <<< Note 417.44 by LEDS::BURATI "Reelin' in the years? Like you>>>
    
    
    
    	Noooooo! Not the WHO!  Ronny James Dio took over as Lead singer
    	for Black Sabbath, after Ozzy left...Then broke off on his own,
    	as the band DIO...
    
    
    	How about Tommy Shaw? Do you know who he is? ;-0
    	Another great voice!!!
417.49LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Fri Sep 03 1993 18:095
> -< Your showing your age... Or ignorance.. >-

    Age? Hardly. I was listening to what's now refered to as album oriented
    rock radio when Black Sabbath debuted. But of Black Sabbath personnel
    past or present I'm very ignorant.
417.50"Actually" == condescension???MSBCS::ASHFORTHFri Sep 03 1993 19:0214
>    Well Bob, maybe it's this "actually" that gives your reply it's
>    condescending tone.

You *gotta* be kidding! (actually, that is...)

Language sure is a funny thing; the overloading which folks (yes, including me)
attach to specific words never ceases to amaze me! The ultimate electronic
messaging medium must, repeat MUST define a standardized "mood meter" which
indicates the tone the writer *means* to adopt, or we'll end up with World War
III resulting from innocent banter between Yeltsin and Clinton on Compuserve.

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled rathole...)

Bob
417.51LEDS::BURATIReelin' in the years? Like you read about!Fri Sep 03 1993 20:236
    Well, it sure sounded to me like a put down directed toward those of us
    that actually (shudder!) like the drivel. But hey, let's not make a
    federal case out it. Um, you ever try Sanka brand, Bob. :^)

    --Ron

417.52Bono No GoPAVONE::TURNERTue Sep 07 1993 11:0420
    re: .46
    >both times I've seen U2 perform live, Bono's voice sounded fine
    >to me.   In fact, it sounded a lot better than Rod Stewart's did the
    >two times I saw him perform live.  I like Rod Stewart's voice, but I
    >*love* Bono's.
    
    Well, I've only seen U2 once (c. 1985) and after two songs, Bono wasn't
    making the notes at all. Basically, he was croaking!
    
    I'm no expert, but I think being able to sing in tune is the minimum
    requirement for a "singer". There are plenty of people out there with
    voices that hardly sound classically trained (Elvis Costello and Tom Waits
    spring to mind), but the important thing is that they can make the
    notes in a *live* situation (even Madonna can be made to sound passable
    in the studio!)
    
    Still, it's what you like that counts. Many of my favorite artists
    leave much to be desired from a technical viewpoint, but so what!
    
    Dom
417.53VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter &amp; ArtTue Sep 07 1993 13:525
    re .52, maybe Bono had a cold when you saw him in 1985.  He sounded
    fine both times I saw him in concert last year.
    
    Lorna
    
417.54fresh fan ;-)OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUI don't eat my fellow mammals.Wed Sep 08 1993 19:1916
    
    >when rod was 'the rooster', he was hot.
    >when rod was 'do you think i'm sexy' and 'hot legs', yecch!!
    
Willie, you don't like hot legs ?    ;-)
    
    I discovered Rod Stewart recently (15 years ago) when my brother
    mailed me a Foot Lose and Fancy Free vinyl. That was the very first
    time I even heard his name. I looked at the album and said "why does
    he keep on sending me these unknowns".
    
    Sooo, I don't know any of his early stuff. What is the rooster ?
    
    Which CD should I start with to start learning about his early days ?
    
    Lale
417.55Get Jeff Beck's "Truth" - *hot* Rod!MSBCS::ASHFORTHWed Sep 08 1993 19:280
417.56rod the mod!CSLALL::WEWINGWed Sep 08 1993 19:5514
    lale,
    
    i like hot legs but didn't like rod's music during
    this phase.
    
    in the early days (faces), rod was a cocky, little
    strutter, and he and ronnie wood had those teased
    up hairdo's (like a rooster's comb).
    
    go back to albums like 'reason to believe' and the
    stuff he did when it was the faces or rod stewart
    and the faces.  he was rocker then.
    
    willie
417.57BOVES::FENNELLIn memory of #28Wed Sep 08 1993 20:293
Reason to Believe is on Every Picture Tells a Story by the way...

Tim
417.58Quick Guide To RodTECRUS::ROSTGoing to hell in your heavenly armsWed Sep 08 1993 20:3127
    re: .54
    
    Rod's career in a nutshell:
    
    Steampacket: only quasi-boots exist in the US.  An R&B revue from the
    UK.  For completists only.
    
    Jeff Beck Group: two LPs (Truth, Beck-Ola), heavy blues/rock similar in
    approach to early Led Zeppelin (who came out as the Beck Group
    dissolved).
    
    Mercury period: five solo albums (Rod Stewart Album, Gasoline Alley,
    Every Picture Tells a Story, Never A Dull Moment, Smiler) in a
    folk/rock vein, some Dylan influence, this is what most consider his
    creative peak.  Rod never toured as a solo performer in this period.
    
    Faces: concurrent with Mercury albums, this was a Stones-like band,
    generally considered of lower quality than Rod's solo releases, five
    albums (First Step, Long Player, A Nod Is As Good As A Wink, Ooh La La,
    Overtures and Beginners). In live performance the Faces played
    material from these albums as well as Rod's Mercury stuff.
    
    Warners period: this is where his career seems to have begun a long
    downhill slide, as he went for a more "pop" approach, of course his
    sales inreased steadily!
    
    							Brian
417.59cut across shorty...WBC::DEADYBig Time SensualityThu Sep 09 1993 17:085
    
    Start with "Gasoline Alley", a great album IMHO. Circa 1970.
    
    
    	fred deady
417.60Gotta love Rod...USOPS::DOHERTYSun Sep 12 1993 14:4013
    
    
    Anybody going to see Rod Stewart next weekend at Great Woods?  I'm 
    going to the Sunday night show.   I can't wait!   I've seen him twice
    before.  Once at Boston Garden and once at an outdoor concert in Old
    Orchard Beach, Maine.   I too started listening to Rod about 15 years
    ago with the Foot Loose and Fance Free album.   I now have the 
    Storyteller set.   I love all the songs on there too.   Reason to
    believe, handbags & gladrags, every picture tells a story, etc.
    ONE MORE WEEK !!!!!!!!!
    
    Kathy
    
417.61Rod song stuck in my head what is it?PCBUOA::LPIERCEGirls with GitarsMon Sep 12 1994 19:5413
    
    I was at a bar with a DJ this weeeknd.  The DJ was taking request and
    I wanted to hear a Rod song, and I could not remember the title, but
    I did remember the last words in the song.  
    
    	"Quietly now, as we turn the page - act 7's over w/out customer
         change.  The princible would like to leave the stage, the
         crowd don't understand"
    
    No one I spoke to rememberd this song...does anyone here?  what is
    the title?  What album is it off of?
    
    Louisa
417.62Can't get it out of my head now.....PAKORA::CGALLAGHERTue Sep 13 1994 07:406
    
    
    	I know the song you're talking about. I think it's called
    	"I was only Joking", don't know about the Album.
    
    				Colm.
417.63nopePCBUOA::LPIERCETime to RideTue Sep 13 1994 13:197
    
    colm.  I thought it was "I was only Joking, my dear" so, I had the
    DJ play it and it was not it!  This song is much slower and sad.
    
    any more ideas?
    
    Louisa
417.64LARVAE::BRIGGS_RWed Sep 14 1994 10:285
    
    The song slows way down at the end and goes much quiter (almost spoken)
    where the lyrics you remember are.
    
    Richard
417.65not sre but .....WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Fri Sep 16 1994 12:574
    
    ...the killing of Georgie ??
    
    G
417.66Its on the greatest hits album....KIRKTN::CGALLAGHERMon Sep 19 1994 22:056
    
    
    Played "I was only joking" at the weekend, and the line you talk
    about IS right at the end.
    
    				Colm.
417.67Track from new Rod's album remind me of MaggieMayHANDVC::STEVELIUThu Jan 11 1996 04:0810
    
    what do you think of the new album "A spanner in the works" ?
    
    My favorite track from this album is "Purple Heather". It reminds me
    of "Maggie May" as I like the mandolin and the acoustic string
    instruments backing.
    
    sl.