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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

195.0. "Scorpions - Best of germany ?! " by RTODWT::SUPPORT_AJ () Wed Apr 08 1992 10:33

 Hi Folks,

 I think there should be a topic for german rock-music.
 Due to my privat opinion the best Group for years are the SCORPIONS.
 I first saw them when they introduced themselves with the 'LONESOME CROW' album.
 What a concert. Since that time they've become better and better and their
 best songs are still the slow ones ; "Holiday","Still Loving you","Send Me an
 Angel" and "Wind of Change"  what a song.
 But also the hard songs , heavy and strong are good, better than most of
 other so called "heavy metal"-groups.
 They are still the nice buys from around the corner, not become ....
  like most of the groups/singers that have had 1 hit in the charts.

 Does anyone agree ?
 Who not ?

 All answers are welcome.

 Axel
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195.1Spitting in stereoXSTACY::PATTISONA rolling stone gets the wormWed Apr 08 1992 12:187
	Speaking of excellent rock acts from Deutschland,

	- whatever happened to Nina Hagen?


	Dave
195.2I love to hear the German bandRAGMOP::T_PARMENTERSignifyin' FunkyWed Apr 08 1992 12:362
Can't help you on Nena or the Scorps, but my favorite German band is Trio.
Minimalist sounds, pretty tunes, rock&roll attitude.
195.3VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Wed Apr 08 1992 13:064
    
    The best band to come out of Germany in my opinion is Helloween.
    
    /prc
195.4SELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Apr 08 1992 13:329
    I have a tape that a friend made for me back in 1984, of little known
    German groups.  I'll have to remember to bring it in and ask how these
    groups are doing, or even if they're still playing.
    
    As for the Scorpions - they're pretty durned good!  :^)  I even like
    the fuss over that one album cover (the one with the tattoo artist and
    the naked lady - wish I'd bought it!)
    
    K.C.
195.5RENOIR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Apr 08 1992 16:0912
    Anyone remember German progressive rockers "Triumvarate" (spelling may
    be way off, but you get the idea)? They were along the lines of ELP...
    
    I like about half of what I've heard of the Scorps. The negative half
    is always the "power ballads" from my perspective. The whistling in
    their last US single was really hokey.
    
    Give me the down-to-earth rockers like "Hurricane"... I also liked
    their appearence in "The Wall", although I feel they were a bit
    underutilized.
    
    Brian
195.6I'm a big-time Triumvirate fanDREGS::BLICKSTEINSoaring on the wings of dawnWed Apr 08 1992 17:0710
    > Anyone remember German progressive rockers "Triumvarate" (spelling
    > may be way off, but you get the idea)? They were along the lines of
    > ELP...
    
    I sure do.  I have everything of there's I know of.  I even have a
    "Spartacus" T-shirt and "Spartacus" on CD (although "Illusions on
    a Double Dimple" is my favorite Triumvirate (note spelling) album.
    
    I started a note about them in one of the old MUSIC conferences.
                   
195.7Die Toten Hosen?ARRODS::OHAGANBThat's you that isWed Apr 08 1992 17:188
    Kraftwerk, not exactly the stuff of heavyweight guitars, but probably
    the most influential German band to date. Are'nt Tangerine Dream
    (zzzzz) German? Nina Hagen is still knocking about, she's
    playing/played some London dates. I've heard the late Klaus Nomi on a 
    few occasions and he sounds/sounded pretty good. Then there's Herbert
    Groenmeyer (sp?), enough said.
    
    barry.
195.8Other German Contributions to the MuseRENOIR::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Apr 08 1992 17:216
    Oh, and don't forget Germany's jazz contribution - most notably Klaus
    Doldinger and Passport, but there has also been some very good
    experimental jazz out of Germany. Plus, credit Germany with the
    invention of "torch" singers and the Cabaret style in general...
    
    Brian
195.9Into the ArenaCARTUN::CARTUN::BDONOVANI believe I'll dust my broom.Wed Apr 08 1992 17:234
    
    And let's don't forget Herr Schenker....he of the Flying V fame.
    
    Brian
195.10VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Wed Apr 08 1992 17:502
    
    Also Uli Roth!
195.11RICKS::ROSTThe Creator has a master planWed Apr 08 1992 20:0413
    Amon Dull II...any band with titles like "Dehypnotized Toothpaste" and
    "Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church" has *gotta* be awesome, right?  8^) 
    8^)
    
    Can...the only German rock band I can think of that had both a black
    American and a Japanese guy as lead singers (not at the same time,
    though).  Oh yeah, and half the band were ex-members of Stockhausen's
    ensemble.
    
    Wasn't Ash Ra Tempel from Germany as well?  Man, there must be
    *something* in the water over there  8^)  8^)
    
    						Brian
195.12some more german groups known/unknown ?RTODWT::SUPPORT_AJThu Apr 09 1992 07:0518
Does anyone remember :


 -- ELOY
 -- The Rattles
 -- JANE
 -- Frumpy 
 --  ....

But are there some more coments about the SCORPIONS ?

 Ah,
 just a comment on Nina Hagen :  -- forget it --

Axel 
 (Munich /GY)

and who are who ? from where ?
195.13questionXSTACY::PATTISONMilky milky.Thu Apr 09 1992 09:089

	Now we're in full swing...

	Who are "die Lassie Singers"?


	Dave

195.14German groups?CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornThu Apr 09 1992 13:3718
    I brought in my tape today!
    
    Can anyone tell me whatever happened to the following groups, if they
    are still out, or if they just faded into oblivion?  (I am copying all
    of the information that was written on the label by my friend):
    
    Spliff - Berlin group
    
    Joachim Witt - German New Wave
    
    Ideal - Berlin Group
    
    Karat - East German (communist) group
    
    All of these groups are pretty good, and (as I got the cassette in
    1984) I'm just curious as to their further successes, if any.
    
    K.C.
195.15Pomp und CircumstanceHNDMTH::TUTAKWell-known Bognor restaurant ownerThu Apr 09 1992 20:1214
    
    Amon Duul II's "Ein Deutsches Nepal"....the utter pinnacle of trip
    music. (What does the title mean, anyway ?) Great cover art, too.
    
    Wasn't "Finch" (mid-late 70s progressive rock quartet) a German group ?
    Kind of an overblown ELP-like band...had only one album that I saw 
    stateside.
    
    (I know they weren't German, but Ekseption were a phenomenal group of
    musicians....Ekseption 00.04, in particular, was pretty hot.)
    
    Peter
                                                                     
    
195.16SMGUTRTSC::BOSMANMarket square hero'sFri Apr 10 1992 07:473
    Just fun; Spider Murphy Gang - Skandal Im Sperbezirk.
    
    Sjaak.
195.17LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeFri Apr 10 1992 17:566
Where is/was "Lucifer's Friend" from?  Germany or Denmark?

Ditto for "The Sandmen"...

bob

195.18way back!CSC32::J_SHUMWAYI can see for files and filesFri Apr 10 1992 18:024
    Wow, Lucifers Friend, I've got at least one albumn at home. I can check
    the cover for info if noone knows. 
    
    Joe
195.19LUCIFER'S FRIEND IS GERMAN RTODWT::SUPPORT_AJMon Apr 13 1992 11:587
HI BOB,

Just a quick answer to your question :
Lucifer's Friend was a german band . But never been as good as the scorpions
are.

Axel
195.20Herman the GermanARRODS::OHAGANBThat's you that isMon Apr 13 1992 14:076
    Herman Rarebell's got to be responsible for some of the worst
    HM lyrics ever. "Dynamite" is one and there's another equally
    bad offering on "Animal Magnetism" which I fail to remember the 
    title of. Otherwise, I've still got a soft spot for da boys.
    
    barry.
195.21zwei, bitteRICKS::CALCAGNIGive dog a solo!Mon Apr 13 1992 18:0011
    Best Scorpion's tune I've heard is a fairly old one, I think;
    something like "Streets We Call the Zoo"?  It got some airplay
    over here, had a nice raw feel too it.  The more recent Scorps
    material seems smoother and more pop metal, but I could be wrong;
    maybe I'm just turned off because I hear the newer stuff so often.
    
    Isn't Accept a German band?  Everything I've heard and seen from
    them seems above average; their singer appears to be a real character.
    Another band I've been meaning to check out.
    
    /rick
195.22SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyMon Apr 13 1992 18:294
    
    Accept is German. The drummer is great.
    
    That Scorpions sopng is called The Zoo, and is one of their better.
195.23WONDER::REILLYMore 'Itchy and Scratchy!!!!'Tue Apr 14 1992 02:157
195.24SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyTue Apr 14 1992 03:273
    
    
    Ulrich Roth roolz! (sorry I had to say that!)
195.25WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnTue Apr 14 1992 09:514
    Is FAUST around in any incarnation?
    
    
                                      Crazy_Jeaniffer_yer_hair_is_burnin_AL
195.26GRANPA::DFAUSTNetworkin' the USA '92 TourTue Apr 14 1992 12:184
    Who (or what) is FAUST? 
    
    Dennis FAUST
    
195.27faustXSTACY::PATTISONHelp m'boabTue Apr 14 1992 17:258
	Faust were a European band from around 1971, one of the very
	first to experiment with synthesized sounds and put them on
	vinyl. Listening to it today you might wonder what was so
	great about them, but they still seem to hold cult status 
	amongst those old enough to remember (ahem).

	Dave
195.28Trippin MusicWMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnTue Apr 14 1992 22:043
    Yeah,O.K. So I'll be 33 this month   :-)
    
     Crazy_I_believe_most_of_them_were_from_Germany_AL
195.29few moreKETJE::VLASIUWed Apr 15 1992 11:413
    Gamma Ray, Tankard, Bonfire, Kreator are also German.
    
    Sorin
195.30ANYONE BEEN ON AN LIFE-ACT ??GYMAC::SUPPORT_AJThu Sep 24 1992 13:4916
This is a question to all of you :
have you ever been on a SCORPIONS - Concert ??
NO ??
What a shame .
I'm not very often goin' to a concert, but The Scorps was one of
the hottest life-acts ever seen, and one of the best.
Mainly Klaus Meine was in extremly goog mood ....
This is some time gone , but unforgettable.
Anyone else been on a concert ??

If you have the chance to ...... take it ... it will be worth the money

Some songs are soft ( you know them well ) and the rest is
heavyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy   

A.J.
195.31ARRODS::OHAGANBa|r|s|e|n|a|lFri Sep 25 1992 11:5216
    Yup, I've seen them a few times. The first was on the Lovedrive
    Tour at Hammersmith Odeon in 1979. Then again on the Animal Magnetism
    tour where Blackfoot stole the show. They only really tightened things
    up a bit when Jabs did'nt have to play the older Uli Roth numbers and
    their best shows (for me) came around the time of Blackout and Love
    at First Sting. 
    
    They played at Knebworth for Deep Purple's UK comeback gig in '85 
    and were IMHO the best band there. The last time I saw them was 
    again at Hammy Odeon about 3-4 years ago and they still had something 
    even then. It must be twenty years now since the first album? They're
    obviously still enjoying themselves. 
    
    barry