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    Can anybody give me any information on a Van Morrison album called
    "TB sheets" - like does it exist, if so when was it issued etc etc
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Jamie
    
    PS I'm cross posting this in FOLK_MUSIC and UK_MUSIC

Hi Jamie,

Yes it does exist and was (I think) one of his first ones after
he left Them.

It was probably from the late 60's / early 70's.  I haven't
seen it on CD anywhere, but I wouldn't be surprised if you can
find it at one of the larger stores.

Don't forget his style has changed a lot over the years, so you
could be surprised by that one.

Bernard

> Yes it does exist and was (I think) one of his first ones after
> he left Them.

    Yeah, "T.B. Sheets" was a repackaging of 60s Bang material (post-Them,
    pre-Astral Weeks) -- all of it now repackaged yet again, in more
    complete form, as the CD "The Bang Masters".  The LP packaging you're
    referring to had the pretty intense cut "T.B. Sheets", "Brown-Eyed
    Girl", and early versions of a couple of "Astral Weeks" cuts (including
    a version of "Beside You" that's my favorite).  All of these should be
    on the "Bang Masters" CD.   - Jay

    I just charged tickets to the show at the Orpheum.  (one of those
    scalper ads from the Phoenix)  I got seats way back in the balcony, but
    at least I'll be there.  I love his voice and his music, and I've only
    seen him twice before.  Once at Great Woods a couple of years ago, and
    once in Edinburgh, Scotland, last summer.  The Edinburgh show was the
    better of the two.  
    
    I love his last 3 albums - Hymns to the Silence, Enlightenment and
    Avalon Sunset, and I'll be happy hearing that stuff, but, what I would
    really like is to hear Wavelength, or Into The Mystic, or Bright Side
    of the Road, or Brown Eyed Girl.  I've read that he hasn't sung Brown
    Eyed Girl, at a concert, in years, though.  I guess he gets sick of
    being known for a song he released about 25 yrs. ago, when he's put out
    so many good things since, and I can't blame him.
    
    Anyway, I love his music, and I'm looking forward to seeing him again. 
    When I listen to his beautiful voice, and music, I forget that he's a
    short, fat, bald, little man, known for having a grumpy personality!
    
    (but I guess all rock stars can't be gorgeous like Bono and Bruce!) :-)
    
    Lorna
     

Lorna,

Don't forget there are two excellent live albums of his.
One (fairly old) double live with some GREAT versions of
songs - It's Too Late To Stop It Now - and another more
recent one recorded in Belfast - I can't remember it's
name.

I'd recommend either.  Trouble is that in concert it
can be a gamble.  I saw him YEARS ago in Cork, and he
was good.  A few nights later in Dublin he sang for
20 minutes and left which pissed off a lot a people !!

Bernard

    The Best of Van Morrison is an excellent CD.
    
    It covers early "Them" tracks right up to present day.
    
    The production on "Have I told you lately" is superb, but
    my fav Van track is :
                          " Sweet Thing "
    
    The Waterboys do a great cover version of it ( anyone heard it ? )

    I saw Van twice back around '70. The shows were both so-so. BUT...
    there is ONE HELLUVA performance of "Caravan" with him backed up be The
    Band on The Last Waltz album. If you like that vintage Van Morrison
    stuff you owe it to yourself to give this track a good loud listen.

    Equally good is his performance on the preceding track which is a duet
    with Richard Manual sharing the vocals on a cover of "Tura-Lura Lural
    (That's an Irish Lulluby)".

    These two tracks are a couple of gems on this album.

    Could someone list the tracks on the Van greatest hits cd?
    Thankx
    \Gary

>    Could someone list the tracks on the Van greatest hits cd?

    See COMET::RECORDS 443.24 for an in-order listing of tracks.  Here's a
    chronological list.  It's really a collection of singles-type cuts,
    which prevents it from really representing his "Best", but there was
    clearly a demand for a repository of singles-type nuggets like this.
    - Jay

                 <<< SSDEVO::DISK$RAID_USER:[NOTES]CD.NOTE;2 >>>
                             -< Compact Discs V2. >-
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Note 199.43                  Van (The Man) Morrison                     43 of 56
THRUST::CLARK                                        30 lines  23-APR-1990 11:41
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...
    Broken down by period/album, the cuts go something like this:
    
    - Early (Them & Bang label):        Gloria; Baby Please Don't Go; Brown-Eyed
                                        Girl; Here Comes the Night
    - from Astral Weeks:                Sweet Thing
    - from Moondance:                   Moondance; And It Stoned Me
    - from His Band & Street Choir:     Domino
    - from Tupelo Honey:                Wild Night
    - from St. Dominic's Preview:       Jackie Wilson Said
    - from Hard Nose:                   Warm Love
    - from Into the Music:              Bright Side of the Road
                                        [+ on CD/cassette] Full Force Gale
    - from Beautiful Vision:            Cleaning Windows
                                        [+ on CD] Dweller on the Threshold
    - from Poetic Champions:            Did Ye Get Healed
                                        [+ on CD] Queen of the Slipstream
    - from Avalon Sunset:               Whenever God Shines His Light; Have I
                                        Told You Lately
    - from movie "King of Comedy":      [CD/cassette] Wonderful Remark

RE:  Waterboy's cover of Van's "Sweet Thing"

Yea,  I like it ...

very nice,

bob

    The concert at the Orpheum Sat. night was wonderful!  
    
    Lorna
    

    Van (the man) will appear at the " Scottish Fleadh 1992".
    This is a celebration of Scottish and Irish music,the event (open air)
    will be held at Glasgow green on Sunday 24th of May.There will be three
    seperate stages due to the fact that around 30 acts will be performing
    ( not all at once hopefully).
    
    Other acts appearing:
    
    
                         Del-Amitri
                         Rory Gallagher
                         The Chieftains
                         Hue and Cry
                         The Silencers
                         Frankie Miller
                         Kirsty MacColl
                         The Kevin Mcdermont Orchesta
                         The River Detectives
                         The Fat Lady Sings
    
                          and others who I don't know much about.........
    
    
                                                should be a good day...
     
    
                                                      Davie..

    FYI: quote from a Poi Dog Pondering song:
    
    
      "...and if I die in a car wreck,
          can I have Van Morrison on my tape deck?..."
    
    
    

    Happy 47th birthday, Van the Man!  :-)
    

    
    	Does Van Morrison have a "Greatest Hits" CD?  I want studio,
    	not live ... saw a live album but not a studio edition.
    
    	Thanks for any info.
    
    							GTI

    Re .15:  See .9 for a listing of the tracks on the greatest
    hits CD.

    
    	Oops ... knew I should have looked first!!
    
    	Thanks!!
    
    							GTI

    rumor that van is coming to boston in april at the wang center.
    
    any confirmations?
    
    van fan from way back
    (i saw van and them on the boston common in 1967 (i think)
    when all that 'boss town' sound stuff was happening.  have seen
    him a few times since then and hope to see him in April)

  FWIW, a "Best of Volume 2" CD was supposed to materialize in February, but
  apparently didn't.  Much as I hate to encourage this sort of thing, I am
  morbidly curious as to what it would contain.  A "best of" Van Morrison
  seemingly should contain something other than perky singles-type cuts.

  Probably the fact "Best of" the first is still on the Billboard charts
  held up Vol.2...   - Jay

    
    
    Best of volume 2 has been released in the UK , I (think) most of the
    tracks are album cuts .....The one that springs to mind is 
    
    
     " Rave on John Donne "
    
    
    
                                                          Davie......
    
    
    
    
    
                                              

>    Best of volume 2 has been released in the UK , I (think) most of the
>    tracks are album cuts .....The one that springs to mind is 

  Got a look at "Best of Van Morrison Vol.2" in the store.
  
  The cuts again were picked by Mr. Man (same as Vol.1); the twist this time
  is, it draws only from material Polygram doesn't have to license -- the
  Morrison Polygram albums, and Them material.  Polygram, seeing the
  enduring chart success of Vol.1, wants to milk this one for all it's
  worth.
  
  It goes something like shown below, 15 cuts (72 or so minutes) -- listed
  by original album, not in playing order.        - Jay
=====================================================================  
    From "Them":                          Don't Look Back (JL Hooker tune)
         "Them Again":                    It's All Over Now Baby Blue (Dylan)
         "Live at Belfast Opera House":   Rave on John Donne Parts 1 & 2
         "Sense of Wonder":               Sense of Wonder
                                          instrumental (Evening Interlude?)
         "No Guru No Method No Teacher":  The Garden
                                          Irish Rover
         "Poetic Champions Compose":      The Mystery
                                          Motherless Children
         "Irish Heartbeat": (Chieftains)  ?? Ma (know the lyrics, not the title)
         "Avalon Sunset":                 When Will I Learn to Live in God
                                          Coney Island
         "Enlightenment":                 Enlightenment
                                          ??? 2nd cut
         "Hymns to the Silence":          Hymns to the Silence
=====================================================================  

    re .21, humph, all I can say is, it sounds like, for the most part, 
    Van and I have differing opinions of what his best work consists of.
    I love his 3 latest albums, but according to your list he didn't pick
    many of my favorites.  I think he should have let me choose!
    
    Lorna
    

>    re .21, humph, all I can say is, it sounds like, for the most part, 
>    Van and I have differing opinions of what his best work consists of.

  Well, I agree.  On the other hand, you & I (and any other arbitrary Van
  Morrison fan) probably have differing opinions as well.

  If you add in Morrison's Vol.1 selections from the same albums, it
  improves things only a little...
  
>    - Early (Them & Bang label):        Gloria; Baby Please Don't Go;
>                                        Brown-Eyed Girl; Here Comes the Night
>    - from Poetic Champions:            Did Ye Get Healed
>                                        [+ on CD] Queen of the Slipstream
>    - from Avalon Sunset:               Whenever God Shines His Light; Have I
>                                        Told You Lately

  He did pick 3 of the 4 cuts from "Poetic Champions" I play as a late-night
  "song cycle":  The Mystery, Queen of the Slipstream, Motherless Children,
  Alan Watts Blues.  Missed most of my other favorites from recent albums
  though.  Then again, those of us who already own the albums aren't the
  target audience...  - Jay

    I heard on WBOS today that Van will be playing the Wang Center in
    Boston for two shows on April 26 and 27.  Tickets go on sale Friday at
    10:00 am via Ticketmaster.  Hope I got those dates right - this is from
    my memory of the radio announcement...

Van Morrison will be giving two concerts at the "Molde International Jazz
Festival" in Norway this summer. The dates will be 16-17.jul.

    Any one know the phone number for the Boston shows?
    
    Thanks,
    Brian
    

    speaking of van.
    hallway conversation about van.
    'i saw him in 67 or 68 along with some of those bosstown
    bands like edens' children, beacon street union, etc.'
    puzzled looks from bystanders.  we were 9 then, we liked
    the monkees.  one guy says 67, i wasn't even born then.
    
    old man willis

    re .26, Ticketmaster number is 617-931-2000.
    
    

    	I seem to recall that before his successful solo career, 
    Van Morrison sang in a fairly well-known band.  Some of the 
    entries in this topic, seem to indicate he may have been in
    several bands before striking out on his own.  Any informa-
    tion about bands in his past would be appreciated.  Thank
    you.
    
    Greg
    

    If memory serves me well, Van was in "Them" before going solo.

    --Ron

    Them were really a great band, hideously underrated in my opinion.
    I think that almost everything Van's done has been admirable from
    a critical point of view, but as far as my own personal preference is
    concerned, there's no beating the music he recorded with Them.
    
    If my memory serves me right, Them only recorded two studio albums WITH
    Van Morrison (plus some psychadaelic influenced recordings after
    Morrison had left to start his solo career), but there's a whole host
    of excellent compilations of the band's music. In any case, the two
    original albums (Them and Them Again) are easily available on CD. The
    relatively recent revival (try saying that quickly!) of interest in
    their music was sparked off by the mid-eighties wave of beat/r&B bands
    like the Chesterfield Kings and the Creeps.
    
    The highpoints of Them's all-too-short career (IMO) include covers of
    Baby Please Don't Go (Big Joe Williams), Just A Little Bit (Roscoe
    Gordon), It's All Over Now Baby Blue (Bob Dylan) and I Put A Spell On
    You (Screaming Jay Hawkins), plus some great originals such as Here
    Comes The Night, I Just Want To Give You Everything and Mystic Eyes.
    But nearly all their output is worth having. In addition to Morrison 
    himself, producer Bert Berns was responsible for writing many of their 
    songs.  
    
    Oh, in case I hadn't mentioned it, their music was hard white R&B
    (similar to the early Stones, Animals and Yardbirds) with a touch of
    jazz and folk.
    
    Dom
    

    I saw Van Morrison Monday night at the Wang Center and he was
    fantastic.  It was the 4th time I've seen him in the past 4 yrs., and I
    finally got to see him do Brown Eyed Girl, in person.  He also did my
    favorite, Vanlose Stairway, and he ended with Gloria.  It was really
    good.
    
    Lorna
    

Van Morrison will be out with a new album in June,
it will be called "Returning from Exile" (or something like that).
I've heard one tune from the new album, and it's good old 'Gloria'.
VM and John Lee Hooker does a terrific version of it together, and
they are sounding better than ever...

-Svein

    
    When I heard the new Gloria on the radio, I couldn't recognize it.
    It is much more exciting than the original.
    
    Lale
    

    Yippee!  A new Van Morrison album *and* a new U2 album this summer!!  I
    can't wait - something to liven up my commute!  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    I picked up the new album (geez, I forgot the title already, "Back From
    The Exile"?) last week and it's another sharp turn from Van.  This time
    out he's deep into the blues! 
    
    There are some covers of blues and jazz standards like "Good Morning
    Little Schoolgirl", "Lonely Avenue", and "Moody's Mood" as well as two
    duets with John Lee Hooker ("Gloria" and "Wasted Years") plus a
    Hooker-esque blues called "Big Time Operators" where Van rails against
    the  NYC music biz and plays lead guitar, even!  He whips out some nice
    harmonica and alto sax work as well.  The disk clocks in at over 77
    minutes so there's plenty of room for Van to stretch out, and sure
    enough, he gets into that out-of-body experience scat work in a few
    places.
    
    The band includes at various times Georgie Fame, Candy Dulfer (!!),
    Kate St. John of Dream Academy (!!!) and Robert Cray's rhythm section.
    In fact the horn section of Dulfer and St. John is a lot grittier than
    I would have expected based on their pedigrees.
    
    							Brian

    re .36, "Too Long In Exile."
    
    My favorite song is "Ball and Chain."  I, also, like "When We Get The
    Healin Done," "Too Long In Exile," "Wasted Years" and "I Can Take Care
    of You."  "Gloria" and "Good Morning Little School Girl" are okay.  I
    always skip over the one where he rails against the music business, and
    there's 3, I think, on Side 2 (I have the cassette), that are after
    "Wasted Years" and before "I Can Take Care of You" that I always skip
    over.
    
    I think this album is a real mixed bag.  There are 5 that I love, 3 or
    4 that I don't like, and the rest are just ok.
    
    Lorna
    

I got hold of Van Morrisons latest album (live - 2cd ~2.5 hours)
called "a night in san francisco", yesterday. 
This is a great live album ! A truly celebration of music (ballads,
blues, soul, funk&jazz).

CD1:
	1. Did Ye Get Healed ?
	2. It's All in The Game/Make it Real One More Time
	3. I've been working
	4. I Forgot That Love Existed
	5. Vanlose Stairway/Trans-Euro Train/Fool For You
	6. You Make Me Feel So Free
	7. Beautiful Vision  
	8. See Me Through/Soldier Of Fortune/Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Elf 
 	   Agin 
	9. 'Ain't That Loving You Baby ?
       10. Stormy Monday/Have You Ever Loved A Woman ?/No Rollin' Blues
       11. Help me
       12. Good Morning Little School Girl
       13. Tupelo Honey
       14. Moondance/My Funny Valentine

CD2:
	1. Jumpin' With Symphony Sid
	2. It Fills You Up
	3. I'll Take Care Of You/It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World
	4. Lonely Avenue/4 O'Clock in The Morning
	5. So Quiet In Here/That's Where It's At
	6. In The Garden/You Send Me/Allegheny
	7. Have I Told You Lately That I love You ?
	8. Shakin' All Over/Gloria

Special Guests:

Candy Dulfer
John Lee Hooker
Junior Wells
Jimmy Witherspoon

	

    I hope Van tours this year.  It's been almost a year since I've seen
    him in concert and I'm going into withdrawal.  Has anybody heard
    anything about whether he'll be touring the US soon?
    
    (Hey, maybe he can do Woodstock II.  He used to live there.)  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    
    Can any Van fans point me in the direction of an album that contains
    the song "The Eternal Kansas City". I have a single version backed 
    with "Joyous Sound" from late '70's (maybe early eighties) but can't 
    see it on any of the CD's in the bigger record shops.
    
    
    Derek.

>    Can any Van fans point me in the direction of an album that contains
>    the song "The Eternal Kansas City".

  The aptly titled "A Period of Transition".  It's available on CD.  I'm
  fond of 3 or 4 songs on that album, though other fans I know are unmoved.
    - Jay

    So... did anyone get the new album, "Days like this"?
    
    He just keeps churning out excellence.
    
    Steve