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Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

64.0. "Queen" by SVCRUS::MCNAMARA () Tue Nov 12 1991 11:30

    This note is for QUEEN; and and all discusion of the bans is most
    welcome.Not to start the note off too sad, but I just heard on 'BCN
    news that Freddie Mercury is dying of AIDS, in very bad health.
    Someone in the Tull note stated this earlier, however this was
    just confirmed by AP newswire this morning.
    
    I love Queen, the music, the band.....and Freddie will always be to me
    the epitomy of the Lead Singer.....style, voice,presence.....
    best wishes, Freddie, we're all with ya......and when will the
    government own up to their responsibilty to care for the people
    who pay their salaries....most evident now that personalities
    are dying......
    
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64.1Not fairCIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Nov 12 1991 12:0412
    It burns me that a huge deal and a lot of tears are shed when Magic
    Johnson announced simply that he is HIV pos. (which he may have for
    YEARS before developing AIDS...if ever) but news about Freddie Mercury
    is all but hidden...a brief message in a news blurb (WCGY 93.7 MA).
    
    I don't want to start a debate on the issue here; I'm just stating that
    I don't think it is fair.
    
    I really like QUEEN.  Night At The Opera is one of the all-time best
    albums, and I LOVE News Of The World - especially the cover art. 
    
    K.C.
64.2XCUSME::KENDRICKTue Nov 12 1991 12:4314
    IS THIS TRUE??????!!!!! Is Freddie really dying?  My God I grew up with
    their music - I've seen them 8 times.
    
    I understand what you're saying, K.C.  Friday night we got to watch
    Magic get a 10-minute standing O on the Arsenio Hall show.
    
    I don't get it ........
    
    Completely bummed,
    
    Terry
    
    
    
64.3VERGA::CLARKTue Nov 12 1991 15:3817
>    I understand what you're saying, K.C.  Friday night we got to watch
>    Magic get a 10-minute standing O on the Arsenio Hall show.

    I'm sorry to hear about Mercury.
    
    IMO there's no necessity to compare AIDS crises or reactions thereto,
    unless we're talking everyday people vs. the blessed.  But FWIW his
    situation is not equivalent to Magic Johnson's -- the musical equivalent
    would be if some perfect amalgram of Michael Jackson, MC Hammer, and
    Stevie Wonder tested HIV positive and immediately held an upbeat press
    conference to announce a public campaign against AIDS, and to say "I'm
    gonna have fun, OK?"  Johnson is somewhat unique -- even other
    basketball stars like Michael Jordan or Larry Bird, or any football or
    baseball star you could name, would not be equivalent.

    Freddie Mercury's unique too, and apparently chose to handle it the
    usual, more private way.
64.4Let's not lose sight of the REAL issue here...SWAM1::BASS_SYIf it doesn't splatter, it'll bounceTue Nov 12 1991 18:2429
    I'm sorry K.C., but I'm going to have to take issue with your comment.
    IMO, I  think it is unseemly and in questionable taste to imply or 
    otherwise infer that Magic is not deserving of the outpouring of 
    love and support he's been given thus far, just because he merely
    has the virus, rather than the actual disease.  What is and remains
    the real issue--and the real tragedy--is the rampant neglect and
    denial that is characterized by society's refusal to treat AIDS and
    the HIV virus as a real problem.  How could it have gotten to the
    point that it would take someone of Magic's stature to be so afflic-
    ted before this problem is addressed the way it should be?  ALL of
    us are susceptible, ALL of us are at risk.  Whether it's Freddie
    Mercury or Joe Blow on the street corner, there are and have been
    too many senseless deaths from this insidious killer.
    
    I've liked quite a few of Queen's releases (including their newest),
    and there will be no way that Queen will be the same, should Freddie
    succumb to AIDS.  Though not an avid fan, I always admired their
    daring and sense of fun in their music and videos (the spectacle 
    of the "Radio Gaga" video stands out in my mind).  
    
    The message should be incontrovertibly clear by now.  We need to do
    something to find a cure for AIDS.  The quality of music--not to
    mention life itself--depends on this.
    
    Sorry to filibuster like this, but this issue is too important to
    ignore.
    
    Sylvia
    
64.5I said I wasn't going to do this, but...CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Nov 12 1991 18:3224
    OK...here I go, blustering again.
    
    I never, EVER said that Magic didn't deserve any kind of support.  I am
    not a sports fan at all, but realize that MJ is somewhat of a hero in
    the basketball community.
    
    What I AM saying can be best put by something that was said by the
    morning DJ on WCGY...he compared hearing the news about MJ with hearing
    about the Challenger incident, or the assasination of JFK!
    
    Good glory...the man ain't even sick yet!
    
    To me, Freddie Mercury is JUST as famous as MJ, but his illness is
    covered up, made less important (to me) by the press.
    
    I admire the fact that MJ is going to pretty much become a spokesperson
    for the further research and education of HIV and AIDS.  But he is just
    a man...a basketball player.
    
    Can you see what I mean, thru the bluster and poor wording?
    
    (Still friends, Sylvia?)  <:^)
    
    K.C.
64.6I think we're "on the same page"...SWAM1::BASS_SYIf it doesn't splatter, it'll bounceTue Nov 12 1991 19:2130
    If I may use a sports phrase, "No harm, no foul," K.C.  You showed
    your support and stated your opinion, just as I did.  Admittedly, I
    am a diehard Lakers/Magic fan from way back, so my sensibilities are
    going to be operating at time-warp speed.  As long as we agree that 
    what's important is that we deal with finding a cure, that's my only 
    concern.  I don't mean to belabor the point, and I certainly agree 
    that it likewise serves no purpose to blow Magic's condition all out 
    of proportion.
    
    Perhaps because of society's past attitude toward AIDS, Freddie may
    have felt that the best recourse was to deal with it quietly in his
    own way.  Again, no value judgment is made in this.  Freddie is a
    celebrity with no more or less importance on the "popularity quotient"
    scale than anyone else.  Or at least, that's the way it SHOULD be.
    
    I had no knowledge that Freddie was suffering from AIDS.  There are
    probably many other rock notables that are at this moment afflicted,
    either without their knowledge or ours.  Such was the case with Magic.
    Again, the attitude that AIDS is retribution for a certain lifestyle
    (be it gay or straight) just serves to detract attention from what's 
    really at stake.  
    
    Freddie was and is an arresting performer, and Queen made some inter-
    esting, exciting music.  I think we can BOTH agree on that!
    
    ...Put 'er there, K.C.
    
    
    Sylvia
    
64.7FORTSC::CHABANTue Nov 12 1991 19:377
    
    Re: Press/Public reaction to Freddie and Magic.
    
    Don't forget, Magic's hetero.
    
    -Ed
    
64.8VERGA::CLARKTue Nov 12 1991 22:247
>    Don't forget, Magic's hetero.
    
   This is true.  And black.  And known to every kid over 5 years old.
   (Magic's been a star in my kids' firmament since his PeeWee Christmas
   special, Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers, and sneakers ads cameos.)
   
   Bad joke but -- if only they'd followed PeeWee's example...
64.9CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Nov 13 1991 10:445
    Re: .6
    
    :^)  (and don't worry...I'm not a Celtics fan either!)  ;^)
    
    K.C.
64.10no comparisonUSPMLO::DESROCHERSWed Nov 13 1991 13:4016
    
    	Several lesser known pro sports players have Aids and I've
    	never heard of them.  To me, this is equivalent to Freddie
    	Mercury.  Queen hasn't been big since "We will rock you"
    	and I'd guess that the majority of folks who heard that
    	song don't know the singer's name.
    
    	I agree with a previous reply - it would take a Michael
    	Jackson to get the publicity of Magic Johnson.  Freddie
    	Mercury is not nearly as well known.
    
    	But I will _never_ forget the first time I heard "Bohemian
    	Rhapsody" !!  Like nothing I'd ever heard !
    
    	Tom
    
64.11A Night at the Opera is uniqueBAVIKI::goodMichael GoodWed Nov 13 1991 15:214
Heck, the whole "A Night at the Opera" album is like nothing
I've ever heard - before or since.  It's a unique masterpiece
of rock, of which Bohemian Rhapsody may be the star but not
the only important player.
64.12In a way, the sports connection makes sense...SWAM1::BASS_SYIf it doesn't splatter, it'll bounceWed Nov 13 1991 15:5020
    "Bohemian Rhapsody" was a little overblown for my taste, but I've
    enjoyed nearly all their singles.  Some of my faves are "Killer Queen"
    (their first), "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," "Another One Bites
    The Dust," "Somebody To Love" and "Bicycle Race/Fat-Bottomed Girls."
    My choice for albums would be "Sheer Heart Attack" and "News Of The
    World."
    
    Sorry to keep harping on basketball, but another noter pointed out
    the adopting of "We Will Rock You" as a rallying chant used by fans
    at many pro basketball games.  I know they used it at the Forum during
    the last two back-to-back Laker championship seasons.
    
    BTW, I'm also curious--did the single version of "We Are The Champions"
    include the segued "We Will Rock You" intro?  I know that's how it was
    featured in radio airplay.  Since I got the album rather than the
    single, I never knew if they were in fact combined or not.
    
    
    Sylvia
    
64.13RICKS::CALCAGNIDon't fret!Wed Nov 13 1991 16:137
    Has anyone else seen the video for "Those Were the Days" from the
    latest record?  Like the song, it's wistful and melancholy.
    It becomes somewhat more haunting now that I think that Freddie
    probably knew he was sick at the time it was made; perhaps it 
    was even what inspired the song.
    
    /rick
64.14Only if you flip the record over REAL fast...CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Nov 13 1991 17:1114
    Re: .12
    
    I have the 45 as well as the album.  One side of the 45 has "We Will
    Rock You" and the other side has "We Are The Champions".
    
    My brother and I had fun convincing my mother that there were NO
    synthesizers used on "Night At The Opera" (it even says so!).
    
    Personal single faves are "Bohemian Rhapsody", "You're My Best Friend",
    "WWRY/WATC", "Radio Ga Ga", "Sheer Heart Attack", "Killer Queen",
    "Under Pressure" (regardless of what Vanilla Ice did to it) and "Get
    Down, Make Love" (and more and more).
    
    K.C.
64.15Hard To Take These Guys Too SeriouslyRGB::ROSTAll American Alien BoyWed Nov 13 1991 17:316
    Geez, I always liked the first album, or half of it anyway.  "Modern
    Times R&R" and "Father and Daughter" are about the funniest hard rock
    songs I've ever heard (doubt it was intentional. though...).  Oh yeah,
    "I'm In Love With My Car", from "ANATO".
    
    						Brian
64.16XCUSME::KENDRICKThu Nov 14 1991 12:454
    Heard on the news going home last night that Queen's management has
    released a statement saying Freddie is not suffering from AIDS.  They
    said he is ill but not with AIDS.  They didn't say what it is, though.
    
64.17Cheerful StuffWARHED::GILLILANDThu Nov 14 1991 14:2810
    Both Queens management and the other members of the band have
    consistently denied the AIDS rumour since it first surfaced about a
    year ago. A picture of Freddie on the cover of a UK newspaper portrayed
    a very gaunt figure, a few months ago. And a friend who works for a
    national radio station discovered a colleague preparing a documentary
    about Queen `in preparation for Freddies death'. Sad.
    
    Phil Gill.
    
    (apologies to UK_Music readers for repeating myself)
64.18hope for Freddie.....SVCRUS::MCNAMARAThu Nov 14 1991 14:3310
    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Phil, this is great news for Freddie and for all of us....hopefully
    the rumors are just that....however, as I started this, the AP
    newswire was quoted as the source.....maybe the D*CKS are way off
    on this one......maybe now we should get back to discussing the
    band.....
    
    mac
    
64.19WRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingTue Nov 19 1991 14:5816
    Well, I wouldn't start jumping up and down yet.
    
    Accorinding to Mark Parenteau (WBCN), Brian May did a visit to the 'BCN
    studios last year to promote Queen's latest release. The question on
    everybody's mind was when would there be a tour. The answer was rather
    vague...
    
    According to Mark, Brian May said - off the air and off the record -
    that the reason that they weren't touring was because Freddie Mercury
    was ill with AIDS. He apparently knew *before* they recorded the last
    record. 'BCN was asked not to mention it on the air. Queen management has
    avoided making any statements either way.
    
    All things considered, I believe it's probably true.
    
    Brian
64.20Freddy Mercury R.I.P.JGODCL::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Mon Nov 25 1991 05:457
    RE's
    
    Well,it has happened,Freddy passed away yesterday(sunday eve)
    It is confirmed that aids seem to be the cause of it.
    
    Its a shame that the world is still not carefull enough.
    Again it costs us a true musician.
64.21HE'S GONE!!!!XSTACY::NBLEHEINMon Nov 25 1991 05:465
    Freddy Mercury died last night in his home . He died of an AIDS related
    cause . He said publicly on saturday that he had the disease . It's
    well known that the BBC etc. have lots of tributes made already.
    
                Niall
64.22Freddie is dead.ESSB::MCUNNIFFETHE GREAT ALDOMon Nov 25 1991 06:046
    
    Yes, Freddie Mercury is dead and it's very sad. I have been a Queen fan
    for a long time. It just goes to show how devastating that the disease
    aids is ruthless and that it doesn't matter how much money one has. 
    
       Cunno
64.23only confirmed on SaturdayCURRNT::PAYNE_AHangover=The Wrath of GrapesMon Nov 25 1991 10:0413
    Re: first 10 or so
    
    I think there was the difference in reaction to the news of Magic J
    being HIV positive and that of the Freddie rumour mainly because MJ had
    publicly announced he had the virus, whereas the first time FM
    announced he was suffering from AIDS was in a statement read on his behalf 
    on Saturday night, only about 48 hours before he died. I guess there 
    wasn't more media attention when it was reported (whenever it was (I can't
    remember which note it was)), as at the time it was still
    unconfirmed/rumour.
    
    A great loss. 
                                 
64.24"The Show Must Go On..."SVCRUS::MCNAMARAMon Nov 25 1991 10:0611
    
    ....sad day for everyone...no band had more influence on my music,
    especially during the carazy-hazy-70's.....as i said in an earlier
    note, he always will be for me the epitomy of lead singers...no one
    could touch Freddie's persona and image....Freddie...Freddie we'll
    miss ya...i'll be playing Queen all nite tonite on the box, how about
    we take a moment tonite at 7:00 to all pause and remember Freddie
    wherever us noters may be......
    
    sad mac
    
64.25GOODBYEFUTURS::PAYNEAMon Nov 25 1991 10:345
    			GOODBYE  FREDDIE......
    
    
    WITH LOVE 
    	All music fans around the World.
64.2658068::BUCKBuck in BroncoMon Nov 25 1991 11:054
    The passing of one of my favorite bands.  Freddie's singing and piano
    playing were always big musical influences to me (along with the
    masterful touch of Brain May's guitar playing).  I'll miss their music 
    greatly.
64.27SELL1::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Nov 25 1991 11:314
    "Goodbye everybody, I've got to go
     Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth"
    
    K.C.
64.28I'll miss him...80MMM::R_MAILLETMon Nov 25 1991 14:497
re: 64.26

amen...  Freddie will certainly be missed...

now if he and Terry Kath get together...

-Ron-
64.29DWOVAX::EROSSleep well, FreddieTue Nov 26 1991 13:047
I was really bummed to hear Sunday that Freddie had AIDS - then to open 
my paper on Monday and read that he'd died...

Queen was at the top of my listening list for a long time, I'm really
going to miss Freddie.

-- Tony
64.30Musing on a Tuesday afternoonDREGS::BLICKSTEINSoaring on the wings of dawnTue Nov 26 1991 13:5810
    Have to agree - Queen was as original as they get and I always sensed
    the Mercury was the artistic force behind it in the same way Jon
    Anderson is with Yes.
    
    I'm hoping that one of my bands will add a Queen tune to our list to
    honor him and his influence on my music.
    
    Tonite, I listen to "Night at the Opera" - tommorrow, I may even
    upgrade the record to CD - it's as classic as they get and I want
    the best audio of it I can get.
64.31XCUSME::KENDRICKTue Nov 26 1991 15:5711
    I can remember listening to 'BCN one afternoon while babysitting my
    nephew and all of a sudden this incredible music started playing.  The
    song was "Liar", it was just about 20 years ago and it was the beginning
    of my love affair with Queen.  I literally grew up with them.  
    
    It feels like a piece of my childhood died Sunday.
    
    Goodbye, Freddie - and thank you.
    
    TK
      
64.32?????SELL1::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Nov 26 1991 16:143
    I heard that Queen did the soundtrack to Highlander II.  Is this true?
    
    K.C.
64.33VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKsee me falling...Tue Nov 26 1991 17:372
    
    Does anyone have the lyrics to "You're My Best Friend"?
64.34DWOVAX::EROSSleep well, FreddieWed Nov 27 1991 13:015
>    Does anyone have the lyrics to "You're My Best Friend"?

I think I do - I'll take a look at home and let you know...

-- Tony
64.35WRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Nov 27 1991 13:0623
    RE: all
    
    Another fabulous talent cut down by AIDS. Don't expect this to be the
    end of it though, there will be many more losses like this due to the
    nature of the disease (i.e. its dormant period can be so long that
    many of the people who participated in the "sexual revolution" are just
    now finding out they have it).
    
    I think Brian May did the first Highlander soundtrack, but I don't
    know about the second one. From what I've heard, the movie is an
    unabashed pig, but the sound track might be worth it if Queen did it.
    
    Peter - I will try to remember to log in when I get home tonight and
    send you the "Best Friend" lyrics - they're printed on the lyric sheet
    in the CD.
    
    As for the CDs - I think they're all worth getting. I've been
    backfilling my Queen collection with CDs and I've replaced 4 of the
    classic first 6 albums with CD (1. Queen, 2. Queen II, 3. Shear Heart
    Attack, 4. Night at the Opera, 5. Day at the Races, 6. News of the
    World, of which I have 1, 4, 5 and 6 on CD).
    
    Brian
64.36I couldn't resistSELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Nov 27 1991 13:419
    Re: .35
    
    >I think Brian May did the first Highlander soundtrack, but I don't
    >know about the second one. From what I've heard, the movie is an
    >unabashed pig, but the sound track might be worth it if Queen did it.
    
    Remember Flash Gordon?  ;^)
    
    K.C.
64.37A sad weekend indeed...CSAVAX::SANTINELLIMay is comming...Wed Nov 27 1991 18:2920
    
    Hi folks, I just wanted to drop a note about Freddie.  It was
    a very sad night driving home after band practice, and hearing the
    news on the radio.  I believe the world will miss him.  He was one
    of the greatest talents of our time.
    
    One thing though.  Before I started this note, I read through
    all 36 replies.  I read alot about how everyone was comparing
    Freddie to Magic Johnson.  This doesn't make much sense to 
    me.  Although they are both extremely talented human beings
    in there own art form, Freddie ALWAYS kept his private life
    to himself.  Where as Magic was always up front with the press
    and the world as to what was going on in his life.  I just
    can't understand how you guys could argue about the two.
    
    Anyways, goodbye Freddie, we will all miss you...
    
    
    		Steven - Just my computer generated ramblings...
    
64.38WARHED::GILLILANDThu Nov 28 1991 04:595
    Freddies funeral was yesterday, a private cremation service conducted
    by priests of the Zoroasterian faith, an eastern religion to which
    Freddie apparently subscribed.
    
    Phil Gill.
64.39VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKsee me falling...Sun Dec 01 1991 13:214
    
    All set on the lyrics. Thank you very much.
    
    /prc
64.40Quick InfoSTAR::WALLSun Dec 01 1991 23:598
    
    As far as I know, Queen had nothing to do with the Highlander II
    soundtrack, a tribute to their artistic sense if ever there was one...
    
    Their tunes for Highlander and Iron Eagle can be found on "A Kind of
    Magic"
    
    DFW
64.41"It's a kind of Magic".ESSB::MCUNNIFFETHE GREAT ALDOTue Dec 03 1991 09:468
    
    I was watching a video of Queen that I taped about four years ago. It's
    their "kind of magic" concert at Wembley in 1986. An absolutely great
    video with all of their great hits including 'Radio Ga Ga & Bohemian
    Rhapsody. I don't know it is available in video shops but if any Queen 
    fans want the video, I can send it on to anybody who wants to tape it.
    
        Cunno
64.42RAVEN1::B_ADAMSTime for F.A.R.T. again!Tue Dec 03 1991 22:396
    	
    	I was lucky enough to catch the Live Aid from Wembley with
    Queen...their were great! Everyone else agreed as well.
    
    B.A.
    
64.43Original?RGB::ROSTBoozoo Chavis underwear endorseeWed Dec 04 1991 15:4624
    Re: .30
    
    >Have to agree - Queen was as original as they get and I always sensed
    >the Mercury was the artistic force behind it in the same way Jon
    >Anderson is with Yes.
    
    Dave, did you leave off some smiley faces?  I thought Queen was a good
    band, but not very *original*.  The first two albums sounded like a
    marriage of Yes and Led Zeppelin, good stuff but derivative. I find it
    interesting that the songs I like the best in Queen's later repertoire
    were all by John Deacon or Roger Taylor and not Freddie Mercury. "Night
    at the Opera" was a good album, maybe even a classic of sorts but I
    found it anticlimactic after "Sheer Heart Attack". 
    
    The single most distinctive thing about Queen was Brian May's guitar
    (particularly the multi-tracking of it), although even there you could
    argue that Randy California of Spirit was headed in the same direction
    back in 1968 before he got lost in Potatoland.
    
    I'll agree with the Mercury/Anderson comparison, as I thought that both
    of them had a lot to do with what I *didn't* like about their bands'
    later work.
    
    							Brian
64.44Sorry Bri - I just don't see the similarity?DREGS::BLICKSTEINSoaring on the wings of dawnThu Dec 05 1991 12:2715
    Well... actually... no.  I was quite serious.
    
    Not only wouldn't I mistake Queen for Yes or Led Zep, but the
    comparison would never have even occurred to me.
    
    The earliest Queen album I'm familiar with is Sheer Heart Attack
    and I think that was very original.  Whereas LZ was very blues-based
    (I looked at them as building on Iron Butterfly and the blues), and
    Yes was very "artsy" - I think SHA was rooted in opera and theatre.
    
    Not only do I think they didn't sound like anyone, unlike LZ and Yes,
    I think to this day, no one sounds like them except perhaps Def Leppard
    reminds me of Queen now and then.
    
    	db
64.45Queen = Yes or LZ? Naaaaaah!CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornThu Dec 05 1991 13:046
    I agree wholeheartedly with db.  Queen IS an original.
    
    BTW, this week's PEOPLE has a brief article on Freddie Mercury and his
    death.
    
    K.C.
64.46RGB::ROSTBoozoo Chavis underwear endorseeThu Dec 05 1991 14:1413
    For those who think Queen didn't cop from Zep in the early days, go
    listen to "Modern Times Rock and Roll" on the first album, or "Father
    and Daughter".  The Yes similarities I hear mostly in the vocals, but
    if you listen to Queen II (unlike most of their other albums) I hear an
    attempt to be more of an art-rock band, a path they largely abandoned
    later on.  I also hear the music hall/theatrical influences, but that
    was hardly a new thing as UK bands like the Beatles and Kinks had
    already worked in that area before Queen even existed.  
    
    Oh well, it's only my opinion.  They still were a decent band, at least
    for the first four albums.  
    
    						Brian
64.47SALSA::MOELLERmake up for it in VolumeThu Dec 05 1991 17:016
    For those who think Led Zeppelin didn't cop from Jeff Beck ought to
    listen to Beck-Ola (with Rodney on vocals) and Led Zep I back to back.
    
    karl
    
    p.s. Beck's album was out first
64.48TELALL::CROUCHJim Crouch 223-1372Fri Dec 06 1991 09:048
    Zep cop'd from many many sources. I agree Beck surely was one.
    They were a ripoff band that still sold many records, made many
    people happy and are still considered icons to some. Not me though.
    
    Back to the topic.
    
    Jim C.
    
64.49Yea, they (Beck/Page) had Willie Dixon in common...SOURCE::ZAPPIAFri Dec 06 1991 10:3325
    	I'm sorry to further digress this topic...
    
	Do some people forget that Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page were mates
	during the Yardbirds days?

	Extracted with permission from "Heaven and Hell"...

	"We used to hang out a hell of a lot when he was in the Yardbirds
	and I was doing studio work.  I remember we both got very turned
	on to Rodrigo's Guitar Concerto by Segovia and all these sorts of
	music.  He had the same taste in music as I did.  That's why you'll
	find on the early LPs we both did a song "You Shook Me".  It was
	the type of thing we'd both played in bands.  Someone told me
	he already recorded it after we already put it down on the first
	Zeppelin album.  I thought 'Oh dear, it's going to be identical,'
	but it was nothing like it, fortunately.  I just had no idea he'd
	done it.  It was on Truth but I first heard it when I was in 
	Miami after we recorded our version.  It's a classic example of
	coming from the same area musically, of having similar taste.
	It really pissed me off when people compared our first album
	to the Jeff Beck Group and said it was very close conceptually.
	It was nonsense, utter nonsense.  The only similarly was that
	we'd both come out of the Yardbirds and we both acquired certain
	riffs individually from the Yardbirds."
64.51"Good Company" - nice touch!CIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornMon Dec 09 1991 10:318
    Re: .50
    
    Well said, Sixx!  I couldn't have said it better meself.
    
    And welcome back!  :^)
    
    (HUGS)
    K.C.
64.52Ok, I'm impressed.BTOVT::SCHOFIELD_KNFPNTue Dec 10 1991 13:565
    Beats the hell out of:
    
                         "QUEEN ROOOOLZ!"
    
    FWIW
64.53Let's just respect themMASALA::GGOODMANNumber 1 in a field of 1Tue Dec 10 1991 15:3220
    
    Re. Queen's Originality
    
    	The hard rock element came from Brian May, Freddie Mercury tried to
    bring his inspisration from opera and ballet (he once said that he was
    a frustrated Opera singer and once appeared with the Royal Ballet). How
    many other bands can you name that mix these 3 elements. That's what
    gave Queen their originality.
    	BTW Queen did the soundtrack for Highlander, and in Highlander II,
    when Conner MacLeod walks into the bar he puts 'It's a Kind of Magic'
    on the jukebox. Appart from that, Queen had nothing else to do with the
    film.
    	A little gripe. Freddie Mercury died of a disease that I for one
    think myself very lucky that I don't have. Magic Johnson has contracted
    that disease. Instead of trying to compare the gravity of the news, I
    think that we should sympathise with them, and remember them for the 
    contributions that they made to their own particular field.
    
    Graham.
    
64.54Queen's FutureCYNO::FERRISHow many more times?...Wed Dec 11 1991 10:587
    
    
     Has anyone heard from the rest of the group if they plan to go on as
    Queen or if they are going to call it quits and go their seperate ways?
    
                                                                      mike
    
64.55"Driven (mad) By You"ARRODS::OHAGANBAre you with me Doctor Wu?Wed Dec 11 1991 11:078
    May's made something of a hit from a piece of music which features
    in an advert for Ford Motors. Everybody and their dog in the UK will
    have heard this by now because of it's grating AOR banality. This 
    is'nt the first time young Bri's written a signature tune. I'm
    sure he was behind the music for a children's cartoon series called
    "Starfleet" many years back. Hugely embarrassing IMHO.
    
    Barry. 
64.56StarfleetSTAR::WALLWed Dec 11 1991 16:086
    
    He actually put that stuff for Starfleet on an album, didn't he?
    
    I seem to remember some of the guitar guys being on it, too.
    
    DFW
64.57XCUSME::KENDRICKWed Dec 11 1991 18:072
    Eddie Van Halen is on it, too.
    
64.58ASABET::HOWARDThu Dec 12 1991 14:319
    Ian Astbury's singing reminds me of Freddie, therefore the Cult reminds
    me a little of Queen.  I think a number of newer bands have tried
    unsuccessfully to imitate Queen.  None of them relly capture the
    theatrics, or the humor they brought to their music.  Also the drumming
    and guitar playing I thought were quite distinctive.  I can't find the
    link to Yes or Zepplin.
    
    
    Darnley
64.59 Keep Yourself Alive CGVAX2::PAGENow THAT'S Comedy!Thu Dec 12 1991 15:2829
    
    	When I first saw Queensryche in a club back in 1984 (or whenever
    the heck it was), I thought they sounded like a band that was deeply
    indebted to Queen, particularly due to the singer (Geoff Tate, isn't
    is? My brain's going...). He had that Freddy Mecrury style & range, and
    even more, he had many of Freddie's mannerisms on stage. Queensryche
    took the "theatre" aspect of Queen's music & brought it into a much
    more "heavy metal" area. Even right down to the similarities in their
    names, I've always felt Queensryche was heavily influenced by Queen.
    
    
    	
    	I saw Queen in the Boston Garden on the "Hot Space" tour. It was
    quite a spectacle. (Even thought the "Hot Space" album itself was
    really lame.) Queen may not have been a complete original, or the
    greatest rock band ever, but they did have a unique vision and were
    able to carve out their own niche in rock history.... and Freddie
    was definately responsible for much of that vision (as Brian May
    was responsible for much of their "sound").
    
    	Rock on, Freddie.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Brad Page
    
64.60RICKS::CALCAGNIDon't fret!Thu Dec 12 1991 15:309
    I think the Queen-to-LZ-or-Yes link comes from the first two Queen albums;
    much of these are highly derivative imo.  If you got turned on to Queen
    then, that might well been your first impression and you would tend to
    always think of them in that way.  But an awful lot of Queen fans didn't
    pick up on the band till Sheer Heart Attack or Bohemian Rhapsody.  Viewed
    from this point on, they produced a body of work that is highly original.
    
    Not to slight early Queen, btw.  Things like "Keep Yourself Alive" and
    "Liar" may be derivative, but they're killer cuts regardless.
64.61Magic and Freddie can now share the spotlight...SWAM1::BASS_SYIf it doesn't splatter, it'll bounceThu Dec 12 1991 20:5622
    FWIW, I heard on the radio the other day that a selection from Queen's
    new album "Innuendo" has been selected as the official song for the
    National AIDS Committe, for which Magic Johnson was asked by President
    Bush to participate in.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the title.
    Unless someone else has the answer, I'll try to do some sleuthing with
    regard to this.
    
    After all the debate--which I somehow unwittingly and unintentionally
    instigated--I think it's not only poetic justice, but a fitting way
    to acknowledge the EQUAL importance of both celebrities who are each
    inimitable in his own right and his own respective milieu.
    
    It also serves as a way to focus the attention back on (what should
    be) the primary objective:  The ultimate, complete and total eradica-
    tion once and for all of this insidious blight on mankind.
    
    
    Sylvia
    
    
    Sylvia
    
64.62"The Show Must Go On"MRKTNG::GOLDMANAbso-froggin-lutely!Fri Dec 13 1991 10:3914
>    FWIW, I heard on the radio the other day that a selection from Queen's
>    new album "Innuendo" has been selected as the official song for the
>    National AIDS Committe, for which Magic Johnson was asked by President
>    Bush to participate in.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the title.
>    Unless someone else has the answer, I'll try to do some sleuthing with
>    regard to this.
    
    	The song is "The Show Must Go On", which Freddie wrote after
    he knew he had AIDS.  I didn't hear about it becoming the 
    "official song", but I did hear that all procedes from the sale of
    it will go to AIDS research.  (Oh, and the b-side will be Bohemian
    Rhapsody!)

    	amy
64.63Bohemian Rhapsody/Those were the days of our livesCURRNT::PAYNE_AStop yawning. Start yearningTue Dec 24 1991 10:5911
    Bohemian Rhapsody is the U.K. Xmas No.1 single. (It was the Xmas no.1
    when it was originally released in 197?). It's a double-A side with
    'Those were the days of our lives' from the Innuendo album on the flip.
    All profits (including those from the record company) are going to AIDS
    charities. 
    The video for 'Those were the days...' was first shown on the Freddie
    Mercury Obituary/Tribute shown on BBC1. It's not on the Greatest Flix
    video, and Freddie obviously did it during the last few months. 
    
    Andy (never bought a Queen album, but still a fan)
    
64.64Dec 26 '91 Rolling Stone article on FreddieSMURF::MALERAn organized kitty is a productive kittyFri Dec 27 1991 14:378
    The new Rolling Stone (released December 26, 1991, with Michael Jackson
    on the cover) has an article about Freddie and his private and public
    lives.  Even though it's a little noncommittal about the greatness of
    his music (IMHO), it's a great article and has lots of details I didn't
    know before.
    
    	Eve
    	(still missing Freddie very much)
64.65Any news about concert in memoriam?SMURF::MALERAn organized kitty is a productive kittyFri Jan 31 1992 18:234
    Has anyone heard about a tribute concert in London for Freddie?  If you
    have, please post information here.  Thanks.
    
    	Eve
64.66DREGS::BLICKSTEINSoaring on the wings of dawnMon Feb 03 1992 17:445
    What I want is a "best of" CD set.
    
    Disc 1 would be: All of "Night at the Opera"
    
    Disc 2 would be greatest hits from all the other albums
64.67What's the problem?WARHED::GILLILANDTue Feb 04 1992 06:1711
      
    >>What I want is a "best of" CD set.
    >>
    >>Disc 1 would be: All of "Night at the Opera"
    >>
    >>Disc 2 would be greatest hits from all the other albums
    
    Right then, buy `Night at the Opera', theres's your first disc,
    and buy `Queens Greatest Hits', there's your second disc. Simple.
    
    Phil Gill.
64.68Already done!SELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornTue Feb 04 1992 11:508
    Ironies of ironies...I'd already done that!  :^)
    
    I put all of my albums on tape (for easier car/Walkman listening), and
    usually put 2 albums on one 90 min. tape.  I almost always put the same
    group on the same tape.  As I only have 3 Queen albums (OK...I'm
    working on it!), NATO and GH just simply ended up on the same tape!
    
    K.C.
64.69LMOADM::LEVINSuegene LevinTue Feb 04 1992 14:136
    I just saw a couple of "best of", I and II CD's at the Music Box (I
    think that was the name of it) in Newport, RI over the weekend. They
    were asking about $26 for each. I almost bought it but picked up the
    McCartney Unplugged - Official Bootleg CD instead...
    
    Suegene
64.70BIG showICS::TGILFOYThu Feb 13 1992 15:497
    
    	I just heard on the radio this morning that the remaining members
    	of Queen will be putting on a show with a number of other bands.
    	The only other name/band I heard was EXTREME.  This will be over
    	in England.
    
    	Gilley
64.71I heard, tooCIVIC::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornThu Feb 13 1992 16:215
    I heard Madonna and Sting.
    
    Oh, well.
    
    K.C.
64.72Details?SMURF::MALERAn organized kitty is a productive kittyThu Feb 13 1992 17:485
    Any idea when??  Where did you hear the news??
    
    Thanks,
    
    	Eve
64.7330492::COOKCaught in a mosh!Thu Feb 13 1992 18:014
    
    Queen have announced a Concert at Wembley Stadium, on Monday 20th.
    April.
    
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Subj:	Plant to play at Queen tribute/reunion show

At the Wembley Queen tribute/reunion concert on April 20, Robert Plant,
along with Elton John, Roger Daltry, David Bowie, U2 and the surviving
members of Queen will appear.

Fox broadcasting Co. will show 2 hours of highlights the same day, and
MTV will show the whole damn thing (hopefully -- we'll see if they chop
it like Knebworth) the following weekend...

64.75Queen video - $8.99 at BJ's (in NE area)DPE::STARRThey call it Paradise, I don't know whyMon Apr 06 1992 15:5426
I picked up the new (re-released) Queen video, called "We Will Rock You".
This is a bargain - an entire Queen concert, over 90 minutes long, and its
on sale at BJ's Warehouse for only $8.99!!!!

This is real similar musically to the 'Live Killers' album, except that it
also has material from 'The Game' on there. Otherwise, the arrangements (and
even the songlist) is pretty much the same. There's a ton of music here,
and most of their hits are represented:

"We Will Rock You (rocking version)", "Killer Queen", "Bohmeian Rhapsody",
"Tie Your Mother Down", "Get Down Make Love", "Play The Game", "This Thing
Called Love", "Sheer Heart Attack", "We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions",
"Keep Yourself Alive", "Dragon Attack", "Under Pressure", "Let Me Entertain 
You", "I'm In Love With My Car", "Love Of My Life", "Another One Bites the
Dust", and a bunch more! (Not to mention the guitar and drum solos that are 
thrown in.)

This really does capture the band at their peak! The performance (filmed at
the Montreal Forum) is excellent. The sound (Hi-Fi Dolby) is pretty good
for the era. My only complaint is that the lighting isn't that great, many
times its too dark onstage to get a real look at what Brian May is playing.
Oh well, nitpicking.

For the price, you can't go wrong in picking this up if you're a Queen fan!

alan
64.76Need input!SELL3::FAHELAmalthea Celebras/Silver UnicornWed Jun 03 1992 18:1918
    Was anyone else listening to WCGY last night around, say, 6:15?
    
    There was a song playing.  At first, I wasn't paying attention...I was
    talking with a friend.  One note hit me, and I stopped talking.  Then
    there was an intrumental part, and my friend said, "that sounds like
    Queen!"  We were totally silent for the rest of the song, hoping that
    something would be said afterwards.
    
    All that was mentioned was that coming up was "93 minutes of pure
    rock'n'roll..." etc.  No mention.
    
    Now, I HEARD that the rest of the group were THINKING of releasing an
    album of stuff that was recorded before Freddie died...is this from it? 
    Is the album out, or coming out soon?  
    
    Enquiring minds want to know!
    
    K.C.
64.77Can't waitMARX::FITZGERALDWhiskey on a HeartacheWed Jun 03 1992 19:453
    I don't know about the song you're talking about, but Queen is
    definitely releasing another album of material recorded before Freddie
    died. No release date yet.
64.78BOVES::FENNELLSister Luck&quot;Wed Jun 03 1992 22:143
They are also releasing an album of the Concert for Life they had in April.

Tim
64.79GURU::tomgDragon Dictate UserThu Jun 04 1992 12:2612
The new Queen CD was released June 2. This is the "Wembly 1986" live
CD. It's supposed to contain extra tracks (unreleased?), but the 
packaging didn't list which were "unreleased" tracks.  

I saw it a Lechemere yesterday. 

FWIW, Lechemere is having a big CD sale this week, 25% off
all rock/pop/reggae (up to $14.99 regular price). 20% off all
others. The new Queen CD has regular price of $22 or $23 (double
CD). 

-T
64.80BOVES::FENNELLSister Luck&quot;Thu Jun 04 1992 15:294
OOps, that's what I meant, not the Concert for Life.  Brain turned off for a
reply.

Tim
64.81Fried Chicken?TANNAY::BETTELSCheryl, Eur. Ext. Res. Prg., DTN 821-4022Thu Sep 03 1992 06:5012
I have loved Queen since I first heard Killer Queen years ago and couldn't 
figure out who this wonderful group with such a musical sound was.

Anyway, in the song "One Vision" on the "Magic" album, the words at the end
are listed as "Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme....one vision!"

I swear that when they sing it, however, they sing  
		"Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme....fried chicken!"

Does anyone else hear this too?

Cheryl
64.82Brought to you by KFCBOVES::FENNELLLiving in the limelightThu Sep 03 1992 12:552
They definitely do it on Live at Wembley '86.

64.83Yep...GENSIS::LAVEYDr. Heckyll &amp; Mr. JiveSat Sep 12 1992 17:387
> I swear that when they sing it, however, they sing  
> 		"Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme....fried chicken!"

The lyrics/sheet music I have for the _Iron Eagle_ soundtrack, which includes
"One Vision," are indeed printed (and sung) as above....

-- Cathy
64.84New Brian May album coming outTANNAY::BETTELSCheryl, Eur. Ext. Res. Prg., DTN 821-4022Wed Sep 23 1992 14:3913
I heard an interview with Brian May (speaking French! no less (some of the 
time :-)) on "Energie" one of the French rock stations last weekend.  He has
a new album that will come out in October.  He is currently preparing a tour
"a long way away" so that he can get the bugs out and then bring it to Europe.

I heard one of the tracks from his new album.  Sweet and soft with some of
his superb guitar playing.  The interviewer kept trying to say that it was in
memory of Freddie but Brian wasn't having any of that.  He said all the right
things ("great friend, terrible loss, etc.) but seems to now be getting on with
it.  I am really glad that they aren't giving up.  There is a lot of talent
there.

ccb
64.85??USPMLO::DESROCHERSFri Oct 15 1993 15:3912
    
    	Question - I'm looking at a brochure for the island of Cozumel,
    	off the coast of Cancun, Mexico.  Under the Nightlife section,
    	there's a listing for the "Scaramouche Discoteque".
    
    	Is this the same word in "Bohemian Rhapsody", as is "do they do
    	the fandango"...
    
    	And, if so, what's a scaramouche ??
    
    	Tom
    
64.86possible answerLANDO::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Fri Oct 15 1993 16:007
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>    	And, if so, what's a scaramouche ??
    
Wasn't he one of the 3 Musketeers?

bob

64.87Failing memoryDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootFri Oct 15 1993 18:596
    Defintely not one of the three Musketeers, but I can't quite place
    what piece of literature he comes from.  A friend of mine has confirmed
    though that he IS another one of those "sword and cape guys" from
    french literature.
    
    	db
64.88probably wears a capeRANGER::WEBERFri Oct 15 1993 19:565
    " A stock character in old Italian comedy and pantomime, depicted as a
    boastful, cowardly braggart or buffoon"
    
    
                                             Dick Shonairy
64.89now what is beelzebub?OTOOA::ESKICIOGLUBut, is it art?Fri Oct 15 1993 20:2212
    
    Well, "bismillah" is not asked but I will clarify that one, since
    that's one word I know from that song.
    
    Bismillah is an Arabic word which means "with the permission and
    the guidance of Allah", a term used many times each and every day
    by Muslims before starting any task.
    
    "Bismillah No ! We will not let you go !" makes no sense whatsoever.
    
    Lale
    
64.90"Hey goes by many names"DREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootFri Oct 15 1993 20:512
    "Beelzebub" is just another name for the devil, Satan, Lucifer,
    Mephistopheles, Hades, Pluto, etc.
64.91DevilOTOOA::ESKICIOGLUBut, is it art?Fri Oct 15 1993 21:0122
	I blew up the bus
	I started World War 3
	Hijacked a plane with khdaffi
	and blew the hostages free
	and that was the devil in me

	I'm sponsored by a company, well
	that I don't believe in
	I advertise the things for cash
	it ain't decievin' - no
	it's just the devil in me

	well I gave you acid rain
	and I polluted the sea
	and I covered your thoughts up
	all with graffiti
	you can call me by my real name,
	or you can call me 'humanity'
	because it all seems like human behavior to me
	but deep down it's the devil in me

64.92PEAKS::YANDELLDon't blame me, I'm new hereThu Dec 09 1993 19:0819
I figure this would be a good place to get an answer...

At the beginning of the song ONE VISION there is a bunch of noise & stuff.
An obvious part of it is (I'm sure it's Freddie) someone saying "I've got
something to say...in mysterious ways" slowed down.   (Some think it's
"God works in mysterious ways", but I've got the album and when I speed it
up I hear the first.)

Anyways, I played the beginning of the song backwards, and heard mumbling
but then distinctly heard in Freddie's voice say "Once Again!"

Last week MTV played a Queen documentary hosted by Axl Rose called These
Are the Days of Our Lives.  In it they showed One Vision being recorded,
and Freddie was saying something into the mike (some sort of poetic thing)
and he ended it with "Once Again!"

Does anyone know what he said there?

Wild weird stuff...
64.93 using the Wave for Windows software EZ2GET::STEWARTalways took candy from strangersFri Dec 10 1993 15:099
    
    
    Which album is that?  The Flash Gordon soundtrack?  If I've got it,
    I'll feed it into the computer and straighten it out so we can solve
    the mystery...I love hearing what's really going on.  What's really
    cool is listening to an orchestral piece and catching a player clearing
    his sinuses during a quiet passage.
    
    
64.94PEAKS::YANDELLDon't blame me, I'm new hereFri Dec 10 1993 15:344
One Vision is on the "A Kind of Magic" album, 1986.

What's cool, too, is to listen to the first 30 seconds or so of
"Ogre Battle" form Queen II backwards.
64.95SSDEVO::PEAKS::YANDELLSqueal like a pigTue Nov 07 1995 17:234
I would just like to say that I have just finished listening to the new
Queen album and it is most excellent.

That is all.
64.96SALEM::DODACelts Motto:PlentyofGoodSeatsStillAvailableWed Nov 08 1995 15:393
Who does the vocals?

daryll
64.97BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Wed Nov 08 1995 15:483
    
    	I think this is the one that was recorded before Freddie died.
    
64.98MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterWed Nov 08 1995 16:084
    
    Wow, good guess Shawn! :-)
    
    -b
64.99HELIX::CLARKWed Nov 08 1995 16:103
> Who does the vocals?

  I was going to guess:   Prince...
64.100BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Wed Nov 08 1995 17:239
    
    	RE: Brian
    
    	Hey, wise guy, it could have been a new album by the band with
    	a new lead singer.
    
    	I was commenting that it was probably not, and that is was an
    	unreleased set of material recorded with Freddie singing.