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Conference mr1pst::music

Title:MUSIC V4
Notice:New Noters please read Note 1.*, Mod = someone else
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Wed Oct 09 1991
Last Modified:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:762
Total number of notes:18706

1.0. "Welcome to MUSIC/Conference Guidelines" by WRKSYS::MARKEY (Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging) Wed Oct 09 1991 16:51

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    *                        WELCOME TO MUSIC V4                        *
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        This conference is to discuss all types of music, and various
        and sundry aspects of producing and enjoying music. 

        Conference guidelines are given in replies to this note.
        MUSIC is run a bit more formally than most non-work related
        conferences. Please look the guidelines over, especially if 
    	you are considering entering an advertisement.

    	Before adding a new topic, look in note 2.last for a directory
    	of current MUSIC conference topics.
    
    	If you have any problems, contact the moderator:
    
    		Brian D. Markey
    		WRKSYS::MARKEY
    
    	Happy noting!!!!
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1.1Creating New TopicsWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:0924
CREATING NEW TOPICS

        o  Before starting a topic (i.e., new note), first check that
           no one else has already started a topic on the same thing.
           For example, don't start a new topic to reply to someone's
           statement in a currently-active topic.  See the SEARCHES
	   section for details on how to find existing topics.
        
           Multiple topics on the same discussion may be moved
           or deleted at the moderator's discretion.
        
        o  To make it easier for people to find the subject you
           are writing about, use descriptive titles and keywords.
	   Avoid cutesy obscure titles like "The Walrus"
	   for a note about Paul McCartney. 

	   Remember that people search through the directory of titles
	   to find notes.  For that reason you should always be sure
	   to include the most logical search target (like "McCartney")
	   in the title.

	o  After creating your new topic, you might wish to create a
	   keyword for it, or possibly add the topic to an existing
	   keyword.  (See SEARCHES section for description of keywords).
1.2FINDING TOPICSWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:1146
SEARCHES


    There are two major methods of searching: keywords and title searches.

    o Keyword searches

      VAX Notes provides an index like facility for notes.  You may
      create an index entry, which is called a "keyword", with any
      name and attach it to any set of topics or replies.  For example,
      a BEATLES keyword might contain entries for all notes pertaining
      to the Beatles.

      To find a topic using a keyword search, you type:

	    SHOW KEYWORD xxxx/full

      where xxxx is the keyword (BEATLES for example).  You can use
      wildcard characters, which in fact is a good idea.  For example,
      "BEATLES" will only match BEATLES, but *BEATLE* will match almost
      any conceivable variation (BEATLE, BEATLES, THE_BEATLES, etc.)

      The SHOW KEYWORD command will show you all the keywords that match
      what you specify, as well as the notes associated with each keyword.

      To add to an existing keyword simply type:

	    ADD KEYWORD xxxx  n.m

      Anyone can create a keyword in MUSIC, but please use the SHOW 
      KEYWORDS command first, to see if an appropriate keyword has already
      been created.  We don't need a bunch of similar keywords (e.g., like 
      "DRUM", "DRUMS", "DRUMMERS", "DRUMMING").

   o Directory searches

     Note 2.LAST always contains a recent directory of topics in
     MUSIC.   Extract this note into a buffer and then use the editor
     search command to find keywords that might be expected in note
     titles relating to your subject.

     Please note that the DIR/TITLE="xxx" command should be avoided.
     Extracting a note and searching the buffer is MANY TIMES faster
     than the DIR/TITLE command, which is not only very slow, but uses
     a significant amount of resources on the host machine, and network
     resources.
1.3LIBELWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:1358
LIBEL

    When writing notes in this conference, please avoid making comments
    about individuals or businesses that could be construed as being
    slanderous.
    
    Everyone by now must be familiar with the sad state of the particular
    area of law known as "liability".   I have been told by several
    expert moderators with direct experience with the personel and legal
    departments that any statement made in a DEC sponsored conference
    may incur liability for Digital.  Digital would be, effectively,
    publishing slanderous remarks.
    
    Defining "slander" is a very hard task.  In general, you should
    avoid making comments about individuals, businesses, etc. that:
    
    	1) are mostly insulting in nature
    
    	2) offer maliciously worded negative opinions 
    
        3) offer subjective conclusions as fact
    
    	4) endanger the reputation or livelihood of a person, business,
           group, etc.
    
    I know this sounds restricting and perhaps unfair, but notesfiles
    are allowed by the good will of those in authority out of DEC. 
    It would be hard for them to justify their existence to stockholders
    based on any contribution to the company.   Our responsibility as
    noters is to appreciate their overlooking this and try our best
    not to allow notesfiles to create problems for DEC.
    
    This means that at times, we may have to COMPROMISE.
    
    For example, if some store sells you a 57 Les Paul guitar for $2700
    that turns out to be a $125 86 Hondo they painted to look like a
    Les Paul, and then won't give you your money back, unfortunately
    this is not the right place to lash back at them even though they
    may well deserve it.
    
    This does not mean that everything in here has to be positive, but
    it means that you must be careful and very low-key when making negative
    statements about others.
    
    If you have any questions in this area, I'd be glad to answer them
    in the least incapable way that I am able.  If someone wishes to
    discuss the issue in MUSIC, please start a separate note.
    Do not reply to this note.
    
    Please believe that my only motivation here is to keep the MUSIC
    conference healthy and active.   I think this liability stuff is
    nonsense but it's a fact of life.
    
    	"Some folks will insist on ramming their heads through a
    	 brick wall while others are content just to walk around
         it."
    
    Let's try to walk around this liability nonsense.
1.4HOST SYSTEM RULESWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:1919
HOST SYSTEM RULES

    TIMBRE (MUSIC's host system) is a VAXstation 3100. As systems go
    it's more than adequate but certainly finite in terms of system
    resources.
    
    There are no particular access rules for TIMBRE, but please consider
    the following:
    
    	1) Avoid frequent access (every few hours) to the file during the
           work day.
    
    	2) If you type in something that is dated information, delete
           it once it becomes out-dated (equipment is sold, concert
           has past, etc.)

        3) You might want to consider deleting things of limited value
           after awhile (like the standard short witty response).

1.6OBJECTIONSWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:2222
OBJECTIONS
    
    If you have an objection to something posted here that you feel
    is inappropriate, please contact me via mail.
    
    The most common case is when someone feels they have been insulted.

    PLEASE READ THIS.
    
    	If you feel you've been insulted by someone in this
    	conference, the RIGHT response is to contact me
        and tell me thatt you feel insulted by this note and
    	feel it should be deleted.
    
    Striking back or airing your objection is NOT the right response.
    MUSIC is for notes about music.
    
    Retaliations turn into unwanted notes wars between two folks that
    bore everyone else.  Typically both sides claim that the other
    side struck first.  To me, it doesn't matter.  If you wrote a note
    that insulted someone, you are in the wrong.  There's no condition
    under which that is acceptable.
1.8WHERE CAN I FIND...WRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingWed Oct 09 1991 18:36133
NOTEWORTHY MUSIC TOPICS

	There are some special topics worth noting:

	Note #		Title				Keyword
	------		-----				-------

	1		Introduction to MUSIC

	Contains general guidelines for MUSIC. You're reading it...


	2		Directory listing		DIRECTORY

	Always contains a recent directory listing of MUSIC.  You
	should use this note (along with keywords) for searching
	for a particular topic.  The DIR command is very slow and
	uses up a significant amount of resources.


	3		The Noters			NOTERS

	A who's who of DEC music lovers.


	4		Concert announcements		CONCERT_ANNOUNCEMENTS

	The place for announcements of upcoming concerts.  Please do not
	create new topics for concert announcements.  They are hard to
	find the second time and clutter the directory listing.  The moderator
	will delete the announcements some time after the concert date.
    
	5		Who's gigging where		WHO_IS_GIGGING_WHERE

	The (only) place to announce concerts given by DEC musicians.
	Please do not create new topics for this.  It is much easier
	for people to find your announcement if they KNOW it's always
	in this note.

        6		For Sale			FOR_SALE
    
    	The (only) place to put a "for sale" ad.  Also contains guidelines for
    	ads.

	7		Moderation Issues		MODERATION_ISSUES

	The place to discuss issues involving the moderation of this
	conference.  

        8		Want Ads			WANT_ADS
    
    	The (only) place to put a "wanted" ad.  Also contains guidelines for
    	ads.


        9 		MUSIC-related Conferences	RELATED_CONFERENCES
    
    	Announcements of other conferences on music related subjects
    	(GUITAR, DRUMS, COMMUSIC, RECORDS, etc.)

        10		Who's Who in MUSIC		WHO_IS_WHO
    
        The standard Vax Notes "Who's Who?" note
    
        11		Musicians Wanted
    
    	Intended for musicians looking for bands and bands looking for
        musicians.

        12		Jam Sessions				JAMS
    
        The place for announcing jam sessions.

    	13		Music Instructors Inquiries
    
    	We tend to get a lot of notes asking for references on music
    	instructors.  It's been observed that recommendations given
    	in previous requests could satisfy the requirements given
    	in new requests.  Therefore this note has been designated for
    	all such requests.
    
    	14		Clinic Announcements
    
    	This note is reserved for announcements of upcoming clinics.
    	These are the special events that music stores and music schools
    	put on.  They are generally of the nature of hearing a lecture
    	and conversing with a well-known musician, product demos, etc.
    
	15		Lyric/Sheet Music Requests
    
    	Requests for sheet music or lyrics. All responses via E-mai
    	please...
    
    	16		My band/orchestra/group/act etc.
    
    	Tell us about your band...
    
    	17		Moderator Announcements
    
    	The moderator will post notes about system availability, etc. here.
    
    	18		Music Theory: Comments and Questions
    
    	Use this note to find the fingering for that elusive lowered-
    	supertonic augmented eleventh chord.
    
    	19		Song/Recording Info and Locater Service
    
    	If you want to know who wrote or recorded a song or if you're
    	trying to locate a recording, use this note.
    
    	20		Music Equipment Questions and Information
    
    	Can we talk... pianos to harmonizers. Go for it.
    
    	21		Club/Concert Venue Information
    
    	How do I get to the Paradise? Ask here...
    
    	22		MUSIC-related Services Information
    
    	Where can I buy a widget for my gafloozle? Ask here...
    
    	23		The MUSIC Soap Box
    
    	If you're on about something relating to music, you came to the
    	right note.
    
    	24-30		Reserved
    
    	These low numbered notes are reserved for future use (or, as it
    	says in the manual in regard to the unlabeled "mystery jack" on
    	the back of my Roland sampler: "Reserved for a future software".
1.9Getting at "old" MUSIC stuffWRKSYS::MARKEYGrand Parade of Lifeless PackagingFri Oct 11 1991 16:1913
    MUSIC V4 has become the version of the MUSIC conference you access by
    default. If you want to get at MUSIC V3, then create an entry in your
    notebook:
    
    	ADD ENTRY MUSIC_V3 /FILE=TIMBRE::MUSIC_V3
    	OPEN MUSIC_V3
    
    This will get you *read-only* access to V3, which you can use for
    extracting notes or locating old discussions. After an adequate period
    of time, V3 will be backed up and removed from the system...
    
    Brian
    MUSIC Moderator
1.10Msg from John Sims/Ron Glover - re: Employee Interest confs.DSSDEV::KRISTYDreaming... visions of you...Thu Jan 30 1992 13:38103
 
 
 
                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M
 
                                        Date:     29-Jan-1992 11:49am EST
                                        From:     RON GLOVER
                                                  GLOVER.RON
                                        Dept:     Corporate Employee Relations
                                        Tel No:   508-493-9569
 
TO: See Below
 
Subject: A Message to Employee Interest Notes File Users                        
 
 
 
By way of introduction, I am the Corporate Personnel Policy Manager.  
Part of my responsibility includes providing interpretation of Digital's 
Personnel Policy, including the Personnel Policy 6.54.   I would greatly 
appreciate your assistance in posting the attached memo from John Sims in 
the Notes files you moderate, and as many other Employee Interest Notes 
Files as possible.  Please give me a call if you have any questions.
 

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M
 
                                        Date:     30-Jan-1992 
                                        From:     John Sims
                                                  SIMS.JOHN AT A1 at CORA @ CORE
                                        Dept:     Strategic Resources
                                        Tel No:   223-7243
 
TO:  Employee Interest Notes File Participants 
 
 
Subject:  A message to employee interest notes file users                          
 
           A MESSAGE TO EMPLOYEE INTEREST NOTES FILE USERS
    
    
    Over the last few months I have received a number of complaints 
    from employees, and individuals outside of the company about 
    material communicated in electronic mail systems and posted in 
    various employee interest notes files.  After reading some of this 
    material it is clear that a reminder about appropriate comment and 
    behavior in these systems is necessary.
    
    First, and most critically; the electronic mail systems and notes 
    files are company facilities subject to normal workplace rules of 
    conduct.   As such, the same rules that govern conduct and comment 
    in any other Digital workplace apply with equal weight in these 
    systems.  Stated simply, if you wouldn't say something in a 
    Digital business meeting, you shouldn't say it in electronic mail 
    or notes. PERIOD.  
    
    Statements that attribute improper, illegal or immoral motives or 
    actions to others; statements that cast aspersions on the 
    character or integrity of others or that amount to libel or 
    slander are not permitted. PERIOD.  In this regard, it does not 
    matter whether the individuals subject to the comment are elected 
    public officials or directors of organizations disfavored by the 
    author.   There is no "Public Figure" exception in these systems.
    
    Comments of a sexual nature are not acceptable whether they are 
    about the author or directed at others.  Similarly, comments that 
    degrade, devalue or discriminate against others are also 
    prohibited.
    
    Neither the notes conferences nor electronic mail should be used 
    to solicit other employees.  This prohibition covers efforts to 
    solicit employees for personal or political gain, to sell or 
    market goods or services (except authorized marketplace or 
    discount conferences) and efforts to solicit employees to take 
    action, sign petitions or support particular causes or candidates.
    
    Finally, employees should remember that it is never appropriate to 
    spend working time in employee interest notes for non-work 
    purposes.  Personal or entertainment activities in these notes 
    files should be limited to assigned break times, lunch time and 
    before or after business hours.  
    
    Employee interest notes files and conferences provide an 
    electronic forum to share ideas and opinions about matters of 
    common interest.  In supporting these conferences, the company 
    understood that there would be occasions where employees would 
    disagree on issues being discussed, but we believed and continue 
    to believe it is possible to disagree without being disagreeable.  
    Personnel Policy 6.54, Proper Use of Digital Computers, Systems 
    and Networks provides further information about appropriate 
    conduct and comment in these systems.  Employees who fail to meet 
    these expectations, or who use company computer systems in ways 
    that are contrary to the letter or spirit of that policy are 
    subject to Corrective Action and Discipline up to and including 
    the termination of their employment.
    
    The moderators of these conferences, along with your system 
    managers, personnel representatives and the Personnel Policy 
    Manager are all available to answer any question you might have 
    about appropriate use of these systems.
    
    Please feel free to forward this memo to other Digital notes 
    files and conferences.
1.7ADVERTISEMENTSCUPMK::T_THEOLook Twice, Save a LifeThu Sep 09 1993 15:4623
ADVERTISEMENTS

    All advertisements must go in either the "For Sale" note (topic #6)
    or the "Want Ads" note (topic #8).  "Ticket sales" note (topic #27).
    
    These notes contain the guidelines for such ads.  Notes not following
    these conventions may be deleted, possibly without notice.
    
    MUSIC is a very active file.  I have very little time to write an
    explanation for each ad that violates the rules.  I think it's a
    reasonable expectation for folks to check out the conference guidelines
    before creating an ad.
    
    Generally I will only not notify folks if I feel they have made
    no attempt to find out the conference guidelines.  The main things
    I will probably delete (or move) without notification are:
    
    	1) Ads not placed in the "Want Ads" or "For Sale" notes.
    
    	2) Responses to ads in the "Want Ads" or "For Sale" notes.
    	   (Such response should be done by MAIL, not REPLY.)
    
        3) NO SCALPING Tix...  FACE VALUE ONLY (NO AGENTS FEES)