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Conference vmszoo::flying

Title:General Aviation
Notice:For Sale=3.*, Who's Who=98.*, Goodbyes=99.*
Moderator:STAR::BUDA
Created:Mon Mar 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5214
Total number of notes:66213

2882.0. "707 Crash on Long Island, NY" by GENRAL::BANKS () Fri Jan 26 1990 13:16

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2882.1More About the CrashTFH::ANGELOTTIFri Jan 26 1990 14:0511
2882.2Bad NewsDOCSRV::STARINOne of the GhiblimFri Jan 26 1990 14:379
2882.3BSS::DEVINSMental Health Can Be CuredFri Jan 26 1990 14:5710
2882.4grid ref plsKERNEL::MAUFEtginyFri Jan 26 1990 15:057
2882.5Location from memory Re .4JORNLY::ZAHARCHUKFri Jan 26 1990 16:2410
2882.6some more info from NBC and CNNFCCMAN::EGANSat Jan 27 1990 02:1924
2882.7ooops !!FCCMAN::EGANSat Jan 27 1990 02:207
2882.8CIMNET::LUNGERDave Lunger, 291-7797, MET-1/K2Sat Jan 27 1990 20:0916
2882.9Pilot Error!!DEMING::LLOYDMon Jan 29 1990 05:1911
2882.10Pilot errorFENNEL::BROCKSon of a BeechMon Jan 29 1990 10:5620
2882.11FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Mon Jan 29 1990 11:098
2882.12Not ATC's faultFENNEL::BROCKSon of a BeechMon Jan 29 1990 12:518
2882.13Here we go again ...IOSG::ROBERTSNAt your discretionMon Jan 29 1990 13:245
2882.14TOMK::KRUPINSKINow you can C a PDP-11!Mon Jan 29 1990 13:578
2882.15Low fuel request...SMURF::PINARDMon Jan 29 1990 14:257
2882.16FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Mon Jan 29 1990 14:376
2882.17Advisory does not get priorityMUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Mon Jan 29 1990 15:074
2882.18PAN-PAN-PAN again?JUPITR::STANICKMon Jan 29 1990 15:284
2882.19Communications Problem??WOODRO::COBBMon Jan 29 1990 16:0935
2882.20SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Mon Jan 29 1990 17:075
2882.21SUBWAY::CANZONERISuperNaturalMon Jan 29 1990 17:5520
2882.22How often does trouble crop up?CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Mon Jan 29 1990 20:0211
2882.23SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Mon Jan 29 1990 20:154
2882.24BCSE::YANKESMon Jan 29 1990 20:2312
2882.25Problem? What problem?CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Mon Jan 29 1990 20:4629
2882.26Odds are...WR2FOR::BEATTY_WITue Jan 30 1990 00:105
2882.27more from NBCFCCMAN::EGANTue Jan 30 1990 01:5522
2882.28AP articles are misleadingMUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Jan 30 1990 10:3431
2882.29Why blame the Controllers?HPSCAD::NEWMANMichael NewmanTue Jan 30 1990 10:5025
2882.30MAMIE::COBBTue Jan 30 1990 11:1724
2882.31business as usualSALEM::JWALSHTue Jan 30 1990 11:3235
2882.32More speculationBOSHOG::PARENTTue Jan 30 1990 11:4022
2882.33Frowned UponDEMING::LLOYDTue Jan 30 1990 11:519
2882.34Line has a bad repSUBWAY::CANZONERISuperNaturalTue Jan 30 1990 12:5015
2882.35Could it be ...MEMV03::HADDADTue Jan 30 1990 12:528
2882.36Whatever happened to "slots"?BRIANH::NAYLORPurring on all 12 cylindersTue Jan 30 1990 13:328
2882.37TRCU11::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freezeTue Jan 30 1990 13:3511
2882.38Gate HoldsMUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Jan 30 1990 13:5625
2882.39SUBWAY::CANZONERISuperNaturalTue Jan 30 1990 14:1113
2882.40Urgency <> EmergenciaLILAC::ROBINSON_JTue Jan 30 1990 15:489
2882.41"not recommended" means "NO!"CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Tue Jan 30 1990 16:3921
2882.42What flight plan info gets exchanged between countries?DECWET::BISMUTHWait and think.Tue Jan 30 1990 21:2136
2882.43Yep..the can be cancelledFCCMAN::EGANTue Jan 30 1990 22:3722
2882.44Random thoughtBSS::DEVINSMental Health Can Be CuredTue Jan 30 1990 22:3813
2882.45got me !FCCMAN::EGANTue Jan 30 1990 22:3910
2882.46CIMNET::LUNGERDave Lunger, 291-7797, MET-1/K2Wed Jan 31 1990 12:066
2882.47I think there's a bigger issue hereNUTMEG::BROCKSon of a BeechWed Jan 31 1990 13:1522
2882.48Flight Standards policy to blame!MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Fri Feb 02 1990 15:5776
2882.49HYSTER::ROBINSON_JSun Feb 04 1990 00:194
2882.50Twilight Zone?DEMING::LLOYDSun Feb 04 1990 15:424
2882.51From the Cockpit Voice RecorderULTRA::MYTHMark T. HollingerSun Feb 04 1990 16:590
2882.52What's the pointP51D::EYREMarty EyreMon Feb 05 1990 19:2319
2882.53What's the REAL solution?USRCV1::DECLUEGWed Feb 07 1990 13:438
2882.54If it ain't broke, don't fix it...FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Wed Feb 07 1990 18:146
2882.55Quota systemDEMING::LLOYDWed Feb 07 1990 20:407
2882.56BEING::MCCULLEYRSX ProWed Feb 07 1990 21:2828
2882.57You were kidding, right?IOSG::ROBERTSNDrive a Volkswagen, fly a rentalThu Feb 08 1990 08:1636
2882.58Good Point!DEMING::LLOYDThu Feb 08 1990 14:1922
2882.59MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Thu Feb 08 1990 15:0142
2882.60IOSG::ROBERTSNDrive a Volkswagen, fly a rentalThu Feb 08 1990 15:323
2882.61I think we really agree in principle.DEMING::LLOYDThu Feb 08 1990 15:4315
2882.62How does one get the cart back behind the horse???CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Thu Feb 08 1990 16:0831
2882.63FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Feb 08 1990 16:438
2882.64BSS::DEVINSMental Health Can Be CuredThu Feb 08 1990 23:0716
2882.65Question..GPXENG::MAYERMon Feb 12 1990 20:0224
2882.66Clarification - I didn't *SAY* that...CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Mon Feb 12 1990 20:5534
2882.67Sometimes a fine is preferableMUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Mon Feb 12 1990 21:1139
2882.68CADSYS::BAYJ.A.P.P.Mon Feb 12 1990 21:5937
2882.69TOMK::KRUPINSKIC what you can do on a PDP-11Tue Feb 13 1990 11:1311
2882.70Free country, huh?MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Feb 13 1990 11:339
2882.71Communication breakdownFSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Tue Feb 13 1990 11:338
2882.72FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Tue Feb 13 1990 11:378
2882.73I'm looking for it now.MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Feb 13 1990 11:559
2882.74Operational requirementMEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Tue Feb 13 1990 16:5711
2882.75IMC requires continual 45 minute reserveCOOKIE::PETERSONHarlo PetersonTue Feb 13 1990 18:2421
2882.76All the more reason to refuse a holdMUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Feb 13 1990 19:3120
2882.77Have to refuse instructions that break regsCOOKIE::PETERSONHarlo PetersonTue Feb 13 1990 20:4316
2882.78TJ my manDEMING::LLOYDWed Feb 14 1990 05:1939
2882.79WAGON::DONHAMNothing up my sleeve...Wed Feb 14 1990 13:037
2882.80Its a "safety" issueMEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Wed Feb 14 1990 15:1520
2882.81Back to the subject at hand...MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Wed Feb 14 1990 15:3655
2882.82again...GPXENG::MAYERWed Feb 14 1990 16:5814
2882.83Indeed, I was wrong...MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Wed Feb 14 1990 17:4222
2882.84TRCU11::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freezeWed Feb 14 1990 20:507
2882.85FSDB00::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Feb 15 1990 12:115
2882.86Fuel reserves for IFR, not IMCSWSCHZ::MATEJCEKIRBFFri Feb 16 1990 11:2419
2882.87Here's the Full txt of the AF article.MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Mon Feb 19 1990 10:18201
2882.88Pathetic CommentaryNRADM::PARENTMon Feb 26 1990 13:16101
2882.89What's a FUEL EMERGENCY anyway?MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Mon Feb 26 1990 14:0620
2882.90Don't waitQUASER::MCDEVITTMon Feb 26 1990 19:199
2882.91still studying..FCCMAN::EGANTue Feb 27 1990 00:266
2882.92Usefule squawk codes to knowIOSG::ROBERTSNDrive a Volkswagen, fly a rentalTue Feb 27 1990 06:269
2882.93BRIANH::NAYLORPurring on all 12 cylindersTue Feb 27 1990 07:243
2882.947700 followed by 7600MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Tue Feb 27 1990 10:047
2882.957700 followed by 7600TIROTH::SCHAEFERTue Feb 27 1990 10:165
2882.96Wait a Minute! (Literally)ULTRA::MYTHMark T. HollingerTue Feb 27 1990 15:3513
2882.97If you have it use it (7700)QUASER::MCDEVITTTue Feb 27 1990 16:1114
2882.98Reserved codes & CallsMEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Tue Feb 27 1990 16:1410
2882.99MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Tue Feb 27 1990 16:3031
2882.100FINNN::DONHAMNothing up my sleeve...Tue Feb 27 1990 16:5515
2882.101Get seriousMEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Tue Feb 27 1990 17:039
2882.102FINNN::DONHAMNothing up my sleeve...Tue Feb 27 1990 17:124
2882.103More differences!BRIANH::NAYLORPurring on all 12 cylindersWed Feb 28 1990 07:0419
2882.104Loss of com more serious when IFR.MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Wed Feb 28 1990 10:1212
2882.105Speaking of which...MEIS::TOWNSENDErik S. Townsend (DTN) 247-2436Wed Feb 28 1990 12:3812
2882.106Use it when ATC notification is desired.MUDHWK::LAWLERBring back Classic ELF!Wed Feb 28 1990 13:1717
2882.107SUBWAY::CANZONERISuperNaturalWed Feb 28 1990 14:2311
2882.108OZ .. there may be NO radar.GIDDAY::AMESCSSE, South Pacific RegionWed Feb 28 1990 23:427
2882.109Missing the BasicsTFH::ANGELOTTIThu Apr 19 1990 18:4733
2882.110What it was likeBSS::DEVINSMental Health Can Be CuredThu Apr 19 1990 20:3063
2882.111SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Thu Apr 19 1990 21:251
2882.112Sigh...TFH::ANGELOTTIFri Apr 20 1990 17:246
2882.113Re: .109CADSYS::BAYCNF ENTP PPThu Apr 26 1990 19:49126
2882.114It's been a long day....NRADM::PARENTIT'S NOT PMS-THIS IS HOW I REALLY AMThu Apr 26 1990 20:4513
2882.115Knowledge, and it's UseTFH::ANGELOTTIThu Apr 26 1990 20:5716
2882.116a question of prioritiesBEING::MCCULLEYRSX ProThu Apr 26 1990 22:0060
2882.117whats the book called?KERNEL::MAUFEmuff-notesFri Apr 27 1990 16:251
2882.118set flame/extinguishCADSYS::BAYCNF ENTP PPFri Apr 27 1990 16:4638
2882.119Controllers get violated tooHPSCAD::NEWMANMichael NewmanMon Apr 30 1990 12:529