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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
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Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

246.0. "Pre-eclampsia" by SAC::SMITH_S () Mon Aug 13 1990 07:59

    
    Has anyone here had pre-eclampic toxemia in pregnancy??
    
    I am 30 weeks now, and have just been diagnosed as having this
    desease.  At the moment it seems not too severe, but I am told
    it can be very serious indeed.
    
    It involves having a rise in blood pressure, fluid retention
    and protein in the urine.  Apparently it is thought to be
    due to the placenta not being 100%, though they are not
    sure.
    
    I have been told to rest alot, and only work for a maximum
    of 4 hours per day, spending the rest of the day in bed -
    I will do this, but it will be hard, since I actually
    feel OK.
    
    I'd be interested in anyone elses experiences of this, like
    did the rest help, did it improve the situation, or did you
    need to deliver your baby early etc etc....
    
    Thanks,
    Sarah
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246.1Rest, rest, rest!!!CHEFS::MANDALINCIAMon Aug 13 1990 08:4310
    Sarah, 
    Funny our should enter this because last night I was reading in one of
    my books about pre-eclapsia. It really said that bed rest is the "only
    cure" (for now) and that there might be some indication that a diet
    without enough protein might be a factor. If it turns into the
    full-blown eclapsia it is very serious because it can casue convulions
    and even coma in the baby. I think other symptoms were blurred vision
    and headaches. Birth is the ultimate cure.
    
    Rest as much as you can. There might be diet restrictions as well.
246.2Our experienceCRONIC::ORTHMon Aug 13 1990 16:0153
    My wife had pre-eclampsia with aour second child. Yes, it is a
    potentially very serious complication of pregnancy, but needn't be if
    you follow your doctor's advice and get lots of rest!
    My wife had to lay down on her left side any time she wasn't doing
    anything else. She had no noticeable symptoms (noticeable to us, that
    is). Her doctor made the diagnosis based on an elevated blood pressure
    that lowered when on her left side. she only showed protein in the
    urine wonce or twice, not at every checkup. She only worked one
    marathon day per week, and had to stop frequently to rest. Her doctor
    advised quitting work at 34 weeks, which she did. We had a 21 month
    old at home at the time, so rest was still difficult. During her 40th
    week, she suddenly gained great quantities of weight (I think it was 12
    pounds, when she'd only gained 8 lbs up to that point!) and swelled up
    like a ballon, esp. ankles, feet, and hands. At theat week's checkup,
    the doctor took her BP at  (if memory serves) 190/110...that is
    EXTREMELY high! A quick call to me at work, a quick trip to our home
    where her folks were watching our eldest, and we were off to the
    hospital to be induced...it was, coincidentley, our due date. At
    admission, her BP was 200/115....enough to cause a mild panic in the
    nursing staff. The baby's vitals were fine. She was on total bedrest,
    with an automatic BP monitor, which chekced her, initially, every 10
    minutes. When her BP went down to a more tolerable 140/85, they set it
    to take the BP every 30 minutes. She was on an IV with Pitocin, to
    induce labor. It did and didn't work...contractions were very strong
    and regular, but dilation went to 4cm. and stayed. And stayed. And
    stayed. For about 24 hours. They finally gave her an epidural, so they
    could up the Pitocin, because, at this point, if they'd upped it,
    without the epidural, she might have killed them! 24 hours of hard
    labor (contractions lasted about 75 seconds and came 2-3 minutes
    apart...the whole 24 hours) had left her exhausted. She slept deeply
    for about 30 minutes after the epidural, and woke up amazingly
    refreshed. BP continuted fine, and so did babie's vitals. After 2 hours
    on the increased Pitocin she was still at 4 cm. They brought in teh
    portable ultrasound to check that the baby hadn't turned...it had
    not...still head down. All of a sudden (this within about 5 minutes
    from last internal which showed just 4 cm.) she sits bolt upright with
    the announcement she feels like pushing! They ran in, and checked
    her...she was a full 10cm.! Just like that! Really weird. They rushed
    us to the delivery room (As she had little control over her legs
    yet)and our daughter was born about 10 minutes later. She was in some
    distress right before birth (the baby, that is), her heartrate dropping
    below 100. The doctor was almost ready to use forceps, because he felt
    he had to get her out *immediately*. But the next push popped her out.
    She did not cry. We were, to say the least, frightened. After a little
    oxygen, she did cry loudly, however, and her Apgar's were 8 and 9.
    My wife's BP went almost immediately back to normal, and even was a bit
    low in the next 2 days. On her third pregnancy, there was no sign of
    pre-eclampsia, BP was normal throughout (hoever, she did becomde
    gestationally diabetic!).
    Best advice...rest, rest, rest! And...follow your doctor's advice!
    Here's hoping for a short dlivery and a healthy baby!
    
    --dave-- 
246.3Lie on your leftside and take it easyAKOV13::TAKEMOTOMon Aug 13 1990 17:1356
246.4No funGENRAL::M_BANKSMon Aug 13 1990 17:2316
I had it, although I didn't get it until the 39th week.  I was sent
immediately to the hospital, where I had to stay laying down on my left
side (or right when the left fell asleep) for 3 days.  It started getting
worse so labor was induced, but after 7 hours nothing was happening except
my blood pressure was going up and the baby's down, so we did a c-section.

Just stay down as much as you can.  If you start feeling dizzy or seeing
'tracers', lay down ASAP--or call your doc.  My ob said it's common in
about 10% of first pregnancies, and doesn't necessarily happen on
additional pregnancies.

Yes, it can be very serious, so treat it right--lay down as much as
possible!


Marty
246.5TCC::HEFFELSushido - The way of the tunaMon Aug 13 1990 18:5931
	Only work 4 hours a day!  Yikes!  I'm surprised your doctor is letting 
you work at all.  

	The day after Katie's due due, we went to the hospital because I had 
regular-increasing-in-intensity-5-min-apart contractions (ie. I thought I was
in labor).  Well, I didn't have Katie that night, but I did have high blood-
pressure.  Even after lieing down for an hour, my BP was 145-95.  My blood 
pressure tends to be low (Last night it was 90/63) so this was quite high for 
me.  After determining that it was false labor, the labor room sent me home
to lay on my left side with instructions to see my doctor immediately if a 
had any visual disturbances or a headache.  The next morning I woke up with 
a headache.  

	My OB prescribed COMPLETE bedrest on my left side.  His exact words 
were "up to go to the bathroom, sit up to eat, lay back down, nothing else."
He also informed me that if I couldn't do that, he could and would hospitalize 
me so I could lay on my left side there.  But  "It's more expensive, you won't
sleep as well, and all we'd be doing is enforcing the bedrest."  So I took him
seriously and stayed home and stayed on my left side.  (Those of you who have 
been confined for months, I stand in awe of you, 8 days was enough to just 
about turn me into an axe murderer!)  I had non-stress tests every other day 
until I went into labor (7 days later).  During labor I had to lay on my left 
side.  If I rolled onto my right side, my BP would shoot up and Katie would 
show signs of distress.  

	As long as stayed on down on and on my side, my BP stayed low(er) and
everything was fine.  
	
	As everyone else has said, REST, REST, REST!
       
Tracey
246.6Recent info on preeclampsia/eclampsiaSLSTRN::RADWINTue Apr 16 1991 14:0562
    Interesting article in 12/90 Harvard Health Letter on nature &, possible, 
prevention of Preeclampsia & Eclampsia -- conditions formerly known as
toxemia.   My wife suffered from both of these, and the Harvard article is
the first piece we've read that provides at least some explanation for what
happened.

For those unfamiliar, preeclampsia and eclampsia can be dangerous to mother and
unborn child.  According to the article, Preeclampsia occurs in about 5% of 
first pregnancies and is marked by swelling of hands and feet, protein in 
urine, and higher-than-normal blood pressure.  These symptoms mmay remain 
fairly stable; however, sometimes small blood vessels all over the body begin 
to constrict.  This can cause reduced blood flow and very high blood pressure.
    
These changes, in turn, can damage such organs as the kidney, the central 
nervous system & the liver.  If the disease progresses further, convulsions -- 
threatening to mother and fetus -- can result.  With the onset of 
convulsions, the disease has moved from preeclampsia to eclampsia.

It turns out that problems with the placenta are at the root of the condition.
To quote, from the Harvard Health Letter:

"Because the growing fetus demands a rich supply of blood from the mother, 
controlling blood flow is an important task for the pregnant body.  Early in 
pregnancy, the uterus develops a special set of arteries to supply the 
placenta.  To meet the needs of accelerating fetal growth ... a second phase
of arterial growth is required.  During the sixth month the placenta therefore 
reaches farther into the uterine wall for better access to nutrients in the 
mother's blood.  The arteries in the uterine wall dilate at least fourfold to
facilitate this process.

"If arterial growth [during this second phase] fails or falters, fetal growth 
may slow, and the distressed placenta is believed to release one or more 
substances into the mother's circulation .... that are capable of 
damaging the tissue they contact.

The cells which are damaged are those that "help to regulate the diameter of 
smaller blood vessels (and therefore the resistance to blood flow).  They
[the cells] also maintain the balance between the fluidity and clotting of
the bllod.  In women with preeclampsia ... the small [blood] vessels 
constrict and micrscopic clots form ....  Injury to delicate vessels in
the kidney leads to protein loss in the urine ... and the function of 
almost any other organ may go awry."

....

"Preeclampsia is self perpetuating.  Once the disease is established it makes
itself worse.... Bed rest, treatment with antihypertensive drugs, and early 
delivery may be required."

On the treatment side, there is some hope -- at least in terms of prevention
It turns out that small doses of aspirin can substantially reduce the risk
for preeclampsia.  However, aspirin should NOT be taken unless a women
is at high risk for the condition, because aspirin itself can be harmful, 
especially during the 1st trimester.
    
At-risk factors associated with preeclampsia, include preeclampsia during a
prior pregnancy, first births, multiple births, diabetes, preexisting high
blood pressure, very young mothers, "very old" mothers, and family history
of preeclampsia.  However, "even among women who meet more than one of 
[these conditions] .., only a fraction will develop preeclampsia."
Unfortunately, no good tests yet exist to identify women who are at risk.

246.7Two Beautiful Sons !DPDMAI::CAMPAGNAWhere is Harvard Yard AT?Tue Apr 16 1991 14:4525
    
    
    I had pre-eclamsia with both of my pregnancies. My first son was
    delivered by c section after 13 hours of non-progressive labor. He was
    about 3 weeks early. I had been on left side rest at work for about six
    weeks, and on total bedrest for two weeks after that. 
    
    My second son was only 5 days early, but I had been in the hospital for 
    the pre-eclampsia for two weeks before. (This in addition to being 
    pulled out of work and on total bed rest for five weeks before that....) 
    He had to be recessitated in the delivery room, and have to have chest
    xrays and spinal taps due to the magnesium sulfate, but was ok. The second 
    child  was a vbac, due to the eclamsia (believe me, I was BEGGING for a
    repeat c-section !). I also had magnesium sulfate, so my labor was 25 
    hours, with two hours of pushing ! My OB said that I would have a 100 % 
    chance of getting pre-ecalmpsia again with a third pregnancy.
    
    I also had liver and kidney issues - they tested for this constantly.
    PLEASE do what you doctor says - no cheating - and let us know how you
    are doing !
    
    If you want to talk off line, my DTN is 483-4297.
    
    Leeann Campagna