Conference moira::parenting_v3

1135.0. "Diaper rash" by TNPUBS::STEINHART () Fri Sep 13 1991 11:45

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USOPS::GALLANT "LetAWomanBeAWomanAndAManBeAMan"      18 lines  12-SEP-1991 12:58
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    	Without going back and reading all the replies listed here,
    	does anyone know if diaper rash is associated with teething?
    
    	My daughter is six months old and while she's drooled up a
    	storm since she was two months old, she's just suddenly
    	gotten a diaper rash (never had one up until now)
    
    	I'd like to try and attribute it to teething since the
    	only other answer I would have would be that her daycare
    	provider left her in a wet diaper all day - which wouldn't
    	make me happy.
    
    	Anyone else have symptoms?  Other than the rash, she really
    	hasn't acted any differently.
    
    	/Kim
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LJOHUB::ANDREWS                                      17 lines  12-SEP-1991 13:22
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    When my daughter was teething she always got a diaper rash.  Right
    before the tooth came in (within a couple of days) she would get a
    severe rash - raised, red, and bumpy!  It looked very painful yet it
    didn't seem to bother her except if we used wipes on her.  Our pedi
    said that we should use a warm wash cloth to clean her up.  The rash
    would disappear within a couple of days.  One thing that we did notice
    with this type of rash is that it would appear suddenly and leave
    suddenly - there was no period of it gradually getting better or worse
    - it just happened.  
    
    The explanation that our pedi gave was that the saliva and mucous are 
    very acidic and can cause irritation to the skin (you may notice a rash
    or irritation on the chin as well).  The saliva/mucous are swallowed
    and may irritate the skin when a bowel movement or urine touch the
    skin.
    
    
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Note 599.27                      Teething early?                        27 of 33
USOPS::GALLANT "LetAWomanBeAWomanAndAManBeAMan"      21 lines  12-SEP-1991 13:30
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    	Hmmmm...
    
    	That's why I was curious.  My daycare provider says she
    	changed Cassidy at 1:45.  My boyfriend picked her up at
    	4:00 (we live across the road a little ways) and when he
    	went to change her she was red from belly button to bum
    	and screamed bloody murder when he tried to use a wipe.
    
    	He did get a warm face cloth and used that but you could
    	see her tense up.  Her skin was VERY red, chafed and dry.
    	)8  We soaked her in Aveeno that night which seemed to
    	help quite a bit.
    
    	That's why I was concerned when, in a two hour span, she
    	had suddenly gotten this diaper rash.  It does seem to
    	be better now so I guess I'll just have to wait and see
    	if a tooth comes out of this scenario.
    
    	Thanks!
    	/Kim
    	
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Note 599.28                      Teething early?                        28 of 33
TIPTOE::STOLICNY                                      9 lines  12-SEP-1991 13:38
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    I'd also recommended lube-ing her up good with something like
    Desitin at each diaper change.   I usually use Lotrimin (I think
    that's it, it's a prescription med for yeast infections) then
    cover it with Desitin.   The diaper rash ointment protects the
    skin and makes the next diaper change go smoother (especially
    poops!).
    
    Carol
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Note 599.29                      Teething early?                        29 of 33
KAOFS::S_BROOK                                       12 lines  12-SEP-1991 13:41
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    There are many health care professionals out there that will say
    that all kinds of symptoms we regularly associate with teething
    children are "Nothing to do with teething".  It is evident these
    professionals have never had children!
    
    On the other hand, it is always wise to monitor the symptoms, that
    you do experience and put down to teething, for them either
    not improving in relatively short order, or more symptoms occuring
    and then to arrange a dr. visit.   Also, if you are not happy about a
    symptom call the Dr.  Always err on the side of safety.
    
    Stuart
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TLE::STOCKSPDS "Cheryl Stocks"                       11 lines  12-SEP-1991 13:44
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    Gack!  I hate Desitin (I can never get it off my hands, and I don't much
    care for the smell).  I do use it when necessary, but fortunately my kids
    rarely have had diaper rash.

    One thing that causes that "now you see it, now you don't" type of
    diaper rash for my kids is orange juice.  I'm sure other foods could
    do it, too, depending on what your child is sensitive to.  You might
    want to check whether your child had anything new to eat or drink that
    day.

	cheryl
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JAWS::TRIPP                                           7 lines  12-SEP-1991 14:49
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    Cheryl:
    
    If you don't like the "fish smell" of Desitin, try plain Zinc Oxide!
    Works just the same, and no smell!
    
    (The voice of experience again!!)
    
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SCAACT::COX "Manager, Dallas ACT"                    11 lines  12-SEP-1991 21:29
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    Lotrimin is no longer available only by prescription.  I used to buy it
    by the truckload for my girls diaper rash, but now I buy the
    over-the-counter gyne-lotrimin (actually I wish it was still available
    by prescription - much cheaper when PCS pays!).  I also hate Desitin
    and can't get it off my fingers.
    
    Has she been on any anti-biotics?  My girls always get yeast infections
    when they've been on anti-biotics.  Yogurt helps too...
    
    Kristen
    
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SMARTT::STOLICNY                                     12 lines  13-SEP-1991 06:09
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    re: getting Desitin off your fingers
    
    I don't much like the stuff myself, but I'm sure that Jason would
    trade my moderate discomfort for his flaming diaper rash in a second!
    
    I find it helps to wipe my fingers off on the inside of his diaper
    (disposable) just before taping it up.   Soap and water seems to
    clean up the rest fairly easily; although the odor hangs on for
    awhile.
    
    Carol

    It may be teething.  It may also be some food that she is allergic to 
    or irritates her system.  Anything acidic might cause they type of rash
    you described to appear suddenly.

    In our case - yogurt caused these rashes.  I had read that yogurt often
    helps to prevent yeast rashes.  So the more rashes she got, the more yogurt
    I fed her, the more rashes she got...  Unfortunately it took weeks for me
    to realize what was happening.  It has been several months since I stopped
    feeding her yogurt, and my daughter hasn't had a diaper rash since.  As an 
    aside -  my pedi recommends that I try yogurt again.  He says she has 
    probably outgrown her sensitivity to it by now. 

    My son, too, got diaper rashes while teething, and my pedi was one
    of those who said there was no biological reason why teething would
    cause diaper rash but it did!!  What worked best for us was caldesene
    powder and fresh air time without the diaper.  To this day my son
    has a sensitive behind and occasionally gets rashes (he's 2) and
    will ask for medicine for his bottom.  What has helped me is a book
    with clear pictures of different types of rashes (one of the child
    care books but not sure which) so that if it is yeast I can call
    the doctor for a prescription of monostat.
    
    pam

    
    	My poor little guy has had the worse rash going.  He not only has
    	it on his front, but also on his behind.  I couldn't even give him
    	a bath the last couple of nights.  Our Dr. prescribed the yeast
    	ointment, but it hasn't been doing to much.  
    
    	Matthew's just about 15 months (my God already!) and does tend
    	to love pasta, which I probably give him 5-7 nights.  He doesn't do
    	well with meats at all...and hates all kinds of veggies (I've tried
    	everything).  So I'm not sure if the pasta (acid) is adding to
    	the rash.  I do know that he's teething...both hands are always
    	in his mouth.  He also drinks a lot of apple juice during the day.
    
    	He has had very loose bowel movements, so I'm not sure what
    	its all attributed to.  Any thoughts??  Should I not be giving
    	him the pasta...even though it's the only thing that he eats!
    
    	My daycare person mentioned that soaking him in baking soda in
    	the tub is good....
    
    	It's so hard being a first time mother sometimes!!!
    
    	Ellen

    Try cutting down on the apple juice.  I find that Cassidy has loose and
    more frequent BMs when she drinks a lot of apple juice - even when I
    water it down.  I've pretty much cut out all apple juice and I've found
    that she has diaper rashes less frequently also.

    
    	What do you give her besides apple juice?  I usually send
    	him to daycare with 6 bottles, 3 juice, 3 milk.  I don't want
    	to give him anything acidic.  My daycare person mentioned 
    	coolaid...but I cringe at the thought....
    
    	Ellen

    Lately I've been getting the Dole Fruit Juice (can't remember the exact
    name) or Chiquita also puts out several juice combinations.  Both are
    100% juice.  The Chiquita are only in the dairy section but the Dole
    juices can be bought either in the dairy section or in the bottle. 
    Cassidy likes the Dole Peach juice and the Chiquita tropical punch.  
    
    Ginny

re .5:
    My kids mostly drink just milk or water.  Their interest in juice comes
    and goes.  If your child has trouble with the juice, why not just send
    water?  (or an empty bottle that your day care provider can fill from
    the faucet)  The suggestion of Koolaid would make me cringe, too!

								cheryl

    Ellen,
    
    You could try diluting the juice (1/2 water, 1/2 juice)
    to cut down on Matthew's intake.  Steven never gets full
    strength juice.
    
    Are you putting tomato sauce on the pasta?  The pasta itself
    isn't acidic, it's the tomato sauce on it.  You could try
    giving him pasta and butter instead.  Some kids (including
    mine) prefer it this way.
    
    In our experience, the rashes and loose bowel movements
    were sure signs of a new tooth...
    
    We've also cut down on the amount of fruit we give Steven
    since it loosens his bowel movements alot.  Does Matthew
    get any other fruit besides juice during the day?
    
    Cornstarch in the bath helps too.  If you can let him run
    around without a diaper for awhile that may heal the rash.
    
    I hope this helps!
    
    Auntie Linda

    Lots of air timemay help.  Running around without a diaper as .-1 suggested
    would be great.  My pedi also suggested using a hair-dryer on a warm (not
    hot ) setting because warm air will help heal a rash even more qhickly than
    room-temp air.  When Michelle was getting lots of rashes I would "blow-dry"
    her bottom every night after her bath.  I would place my hand on her thigh
    and direct the air directly at my hand most of the time - that way I would 
    know if it got to hot for her skin.

    As far as pasta - how about pasta with cheeze?  Real cheeze - not the fake
    stuff you buy in a box.  Isn't cheeze supposed to be "binding"?

        

    Ellen:
    
    I've had good luck treating Cory's diaper/yeast rashes with BalmX.  It
    worked better on his yeast infection than the prescription ointment
    that the doctor suggested.
    
    I usually find it at CVS with the diaper rash ointments.
    
    
    - Terry

  
   I am not a parent yet but am familiar with my own bowels....

   Apples and most whole fruit juices are definitely 'looseners'

   Try bananas to 'tighten it up' again.

   Silvia

    My son just recently had a major rash all over his body. We took him
    to the doctor's and were told it was a virus that would be contagious
    for 5 days from the spots showing up. It looked like a major diaper
    rash all over. He also had loose bowel movements, and the doctor 
    suggestion putting him on just soy based formula for a week.
    
    He was 11 months at the time and eating people food, so I was alittl
    worried about giving him just formula. But it did go away.
    
    If you haven't already, I would bring him to see the doctor.
    
    If you have, try bananas like the previous reply stated. That always
    tightens them up.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Sheila
    

    What kind of diapers do you use? I used disposables and found out that
    my daughter was allergic to certain brands and would be covered front
    and rear with a rash within a short time of putting them on her. As
    stated previously, let him go without a diaper when you can. When my
    kids were babies, I would make jello and add enough water to make 2
    qts. of "juice". It was just sweet enough that it didn't taste
    completely like water. Of course this was almost 17 years ago and I
    never mentioned it to my ped. so I don't know how that would go over.
    
    Trudy

    
    	Thanks for all your suggestions.  I've always used the same
    	diapers...Luvs, and haven't had this kind of bout with diaper
    	rash.  
    
    	I think I may try Balmx as Terry suggested.  I sent Matt off
    	today with diluted HC, but don't know how well that will go
    	over...
    
    	And yes Lin...he's an italian!  He loves the sauce on his pasta!
    	He can't be fooled!  
    
    	Also too, I just made an appointment tomorrow with the Dr.  It's 
    	gone on now for 7 days...(he prescribed the yeast med. on the
    	phone).
    
    	Walk around naked!  He'd love it...but my rugs wouldn't.  The one
    	time I decided to let him do it, I found him playing in a puddle
    	of pee!!! 
    
    	Thanks for all the suggestions...guess I should enter something
    	in the finger food note about his eating habits!
    
    	Ellen

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    I second the use of BALMEX.  My doctor recommended it and I have found
    it highly successful.  Also it works quite well on adult heat rashes. 
    
    Angie