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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

816.0. "children(babies) and pacemakers?" by CLARID::HOFSTEE (Take a RISC, buy a VAX) Fri Apr 05 1991 08:13

Our daughter ,Vanessa, was born 19-12-90 with a problem with her heart. 
Without going into too many details, the doctors decided that they had too
implant a pacemaker because her natural heartbeat is around 50. With the
pacemaker they will bring it up to around 100. The first operation failed,
because the pacemaker they implanted turned out to be too big (she was only
2 kg 400 when she was born), so they had to remove it. After two more 
operations , they finally implanted another pacemaker this week which 
weighs 20 grams and lasts 10 years. The doctors told us that they phoned
all over the world, to find the smallest pacemaker they could find and they
also took advice all over the world how to handle this case. When we asked,
how frequent such a case was, they answered that it certainly wasn't very
common, but also not unique. However, after the first failure, we really
start wondering how exceptional this case really is. We have bought some
books about pacemakers, but all of them talk about pacemakers on adults, and
most of them only on the technical details of the device, but not on how do
you LIVE with a pacemaker. So I am posting this note, in the hope to 
reach a large audience and get as many 'first hand experiences' from people
that are actually living with a pacemaker, or even better , experiences
with pacemakers on children (or even more rare, baby's).

So my questions are:

-Do you know of anybody who has a child with a pacemaker and what age does
 he/she have

-how does he/she live with the pacemaker. What things cannot she do or should 
be avoided. 

-How long do you have the pacemaker

-Any other useful information on the do's and don'ts for people that live
with a pacemaker?


Any info is highly appreciated.
(I checked the parenting_v2 notesfile but didn't find any specific info
on this)

Timo

PS: After almost 4 months continuously in the hospital, Vanessa is recovering
now from the last operation. See weighs now 4 kilo's and we hope that the
operation has succeeded this time . We really hope to have her at home
before the end of april. I'll keep you posted.

(Posted in mennotes,parenting ,medical and womannotes)

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816.1MAMTS5::MWANNEMACHERJust A Country BoyFri Apr 05 1991 11:1611
    Timo,
    
    
    Sorry to say that I do not have any info on pacemakers, but just to 
    give you and your family support and let you know my prayers are with
    Vanessa, you and your family.
    
    Peace,
    
    
    Mike
816.2You're in my prayersEXIT26::SULLIVANFri Apr 05 1991 11:4212
    Hi Timo,
    
    I had an uncle that lived with a pace maker for 13 years.  He died
    recently, but not due to his pace maker.  The pace maker never kept him
    from swimming, and playing sports with his sons.  I think that he just
    had to make frequent appointments to his Dr. to check on it.  
    
    I hope that everything works out well for Vanessa.  She is in my
    prayers.
    
    Donna
    
816.3Living with a PacemakerGIAMEM::DOUGLASSTue Apr 16 1991 15:5735
    
    My husband had a pacemaker implanted 2 years ago at the age of 24.  I
    can imagine how traumatic this must be for you, since it was very scary
    for me having this happen.  My husband's natural heartbeat was in the 
    20-30 bpm range and the pacemaker brings it up to 40.  His pacemaker will 
    last him 6 years and the doctors said that by that time, they will 
    probably have developed pacemakers that last 10 to 20 years.  They had 
    problems implanting the operation and he went into cardiac arrest (it
    is true that doctors consider pacemaker implants to be a very simple,
    uneventful surgery but as we experienced and you experienced this isn't
    always the case). However, now that the wires are in his heart, replacing 
    the pacemaker will be a simple outpatient procedure.
    
    The doctors feel that he will probably need to always have a pacemaker.
    They said it is hard to know how much your heart has come to depend on
    the pacemaker and it could be dangerous to remove it.  However, I did
    read an article about a young women who had a pacemaker removed after
    some time.  I'm sure it depends on the case.
    
    There are no problems at all living with a pacemaker.  There are some
    things he cannot do - welding or being near large electrical forces
    such as a power plant would not be good as they can reset the
    pacemaker.  He also cannot hunt (he didn't anyway) because the
    pacemaker is implanted below his right collar bone.  He is extremely 
    athletic, and was back to racing his bicycle 2 weeks after getting the 
    pacemaker.  The pacemaker is tested every other month.  He has a small 
    machine that the phone hooks up to.  The testing company calls at the 
    scheduled time, gets a reading, and mails it to the cardiologist.  
    
    I know that this doesn't help as far as needing information about
    pacemakers in children, but I wanted to let you know from the point of
    view of a young, athletic person, having a pacemaker really has no
    negative effects on someone's life once you get used to it.   
    
    Nancy