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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

1243.0. "Unborn baby chances of life are slim" by MPGS::DEVRIES () Tue Dec 10 1991 11:12

    Hello,
    
    I am trying to find out some information or if anybody has (hopefully
    not) been through this experience.  My best friend is 32 weeks pregnant
    and her doctor just confirmed that her baby will not live once it is
    born.  They found fluid in the baby's chest cavity which ceased the
    development of the lungs.  Her Dr. immediately put her in the hospital
    because of a kidney infection from the pressure of the excess amniotic 
    fluid.  She has been in the hospital for a week now.  I went to visit
    Sunday night and a real arrogant rude Dr came in to check on her and
    he blurted out"well, you can continue to suffer until you deliver or
    we can terminate the pregnancy" to which she replied that she couldn't
    because as long as the baby was alive and healthy and kicking inside
    her she could not do that.  She has been having contractions every 3 -5
    minutes since Thanksgiving, but she is not dilating.  Then they stop
    for a day and start up again. The poor girl is suffering physically and
    mentally. 
    
    Another really difficult angle of this situation is that we were going
    through our pregnancies together and I feel guilty as hell...
    
    Thanks,
    
    Cindy   
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1243.1Have faithMCIS5::TRIPPTue Dec 10 1991 11:3917
    All anyone could possibly do in this situation now is pray.  This hurts
    deeply for those of us who have suffered an in-utero or near delivery
    loss.  I will keep your friend in my thoughts.
    
    At 32 weeks the baby is clinically viable, is your friend in a hospital
    that has an NICU, and can properly deal with high risk deliveries? 
    There are so many new technologies in birth defects, this has to be one
    of the worst roller coaster rides anyone could possibly experience.
    What you have to do is keep strong, your friend will be needing your
    strength and courage over the next weeks and months.
    
    As for the doctor, well some people just don't engage their brain,
    before opening their mouths!  I've had several experiences like that
    with hospital staff.  Thank heavens the majority of them are truly
    caring people.
    
    Lyn
1243.2what can I sayKAOFS::M_FETTalias Mrs.BarneyTue Dec 10 1991 11:4932
    Cindy,
    Firstly, please do not feel guilty for having a pregnancy go well when
    a friends' is not. When I was pregnant last year, our two closest
    couple/friends were one and two months behind me. I do not begrudge the
    health and happiness of those two little children, just because our
    Daniel did not live. Sometimes I am sad that we couldn't all have had
    our children together, but I am not resentful.
    I think your friend's situation comes down to choices. She will have
    to choose her grief as it were. She can choose to terminate now
    (I can very well imagine what sort of choice that is -- it would be
    incredibly difficult to make). She can choose to wait with the small
    chance that nature will beat the odds and her child will survive, but
    she has to live the next 8 weeks with the knowledge that chances are
    not good. 
    The week I waited to deliver after having found out Daniel had died was
    not as horrid as everyone believes; but your friend will still feel
    the baby which will definitely make it harder. 
    Not being a medical professional, I can only ask: if the fluid is
    drained do chances for the baby increase?
    The day we found out our terrible news, the doctor was right there and 
    I asked her about the feasibility of viable tissue for transplant. In
    my case, she said it would not be possible, as the fetus will have died
    before delivery.
    I know this may sound a little hard to hear or a little difficult to
    even suggest to the mother at this point, but if the child survives 
    delivery and then passes away, she might consider this as a way of
    having her child live on. 
    
    These are incredibly difficult choices, and I can only say that my
    thoughts are with your friend.
    
    Monica
1243.3SUPER::WTHOMASTue Dec 10 1991 11:5419
    
    	And I will say a little prayer for your friend as well. The torment
    (and that word just does not seem strong enough) that your friend is
    going through must be sheer hell.
    
    	Four days before Spencer was born I had an Ultrasound test that
    indicated low/no lung activity, little/no movement, little amniotic
    fluid and a head size that measured off the charts. No one could tell
    us what this all meant except that we had to go in to the hospital on
    the following Monday to be induced. We were preparing ourselves for the
    possibility of a baby that would need some help. 
    
    	Thankfully, Spencer was born with no problems at all.
    
    	Sometimes tests do not tell the entire story. If the baby is still
    moving inside of her, it has a chance (even if the chance is slim). I
    wish only the best for you and your friend.
    
    				Wendy
1243.4did she get a second opinionTLE::RANDALLliberal feminist redneck pacifistTue Dec 10 1991 11:5910
    Cindy, 
    
    Did your friend get a second opinion from a doctor who's expert in
    neonatal or in-utero treatment of babies?  
    
    Medicine is making such great strides in this area that even if
    her doctor is very good and very up to date, there could easily be
    a new technique or medication taht will help her baby.  
    
    --bonnie
1243.5Victoria's situationMPGS::MCNALLYTue Dec 10 1991 12:1920
    Hello,
    
    Thank you for your caring notes.  Monica I am sorry about little
    Daniel.  That must have been a terrible ordeal to go through. I
    appreciate the words of encouragement regarding friends who are
    pregnant together, that helps alot. 
    
    Wendy, thank God, Spencer is OK.  That note had me jumping for joy.  My
    friend has had several doctors (10 to be exact) examine her and the
    baby.  They have only seen two cases like this before and they both did
    not survive.  They did a amnio test and the number of fully developed
    lungs is 60 and little Victoria (she named her that for Victory) was
    only 11.   
    
    Thank you for the notes and prayers.  Hopefully everything will turn
    out fine.  Again, if you hear of any other situations similiar to this
    please let me know.
    
    Thanks,
    Cindy
1243.6NICU's can do wondrous thingsMEMIT::GIUNTATue Dec 10 1991 12:2119
    I second the opinion about making sure the hospital has a good NICU. 
    There might still be a chance that the child could survive, and even if
    it's a small chance, I think that having the best medical care
    available would be essential.  Are there any things that can be done to
    help the odds of the baby surviving?  I got steroid injections
    specifically to help the lung development of my 28-week twins since my
    water had broken and delivery was imminent. I lasted 2 days before
    delivering, but that was enough for the steroids to help significantly. 
    And there are lung surfactants and other drugs that can be used to
    assist lung development.  There have been incredible strides in
    neonatal medicine in recent years, and things that were impossible once
    are now done routinely.   
    
    I wish your friend the best in a most difficult situation.  My thoughts
    and prayers are with her.
    
    Cathy
    
    
1243.7steriod injectionsMPGS::MCNALLYTue Dec 10 1991 12:449
    Cathy,
    
    Thanks for your note, my friend did have steriod injections and the
    Neo-natal Intensive Care unit is suppossed to be the best in the area.
    (Memorial Hopital).  It seems that they have done all they can do and
    we are just hoping and praying that this will all be a bad dream and
    the baby will scream loud and healthy when it is born.
    
    Cindy
1243.8Mass. General?CLT::KOBAL::CJOHNSONEat, drink and see Jerry!Tue Dec 10 1991 12:5211
    
    I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  Is there any way (or was it suggested)
    that they bring your friend to Mass. General Hospital, where they may
    be able to do more for her?  Usually, when people are really hurt, they
    get transferred to Mass. General which is the best hospital for
    intensive care needs.
    
    I hope everything turns out o.k..  What a terrible ordeal to go
    through.
    
    -Chris
1243.9Maybe a state of the art operation?WFOV11::MOKRAYTue Dec 10 1991 13:028
    This isn't much help, but I recently read in the doctor's office about
    a doctor who was doing surgery in utero on children.  Is Victoria a
    candidate for this?  Suctioning the fluid off?  I wish I could remember
    where this doctor was.  I think Texas.  You may want to ask.  He was
    into cutting the uterus, taking the baby out, still attached
    umbilically, repairing whatever, and putting everything back together. 
    He'd done extensive practice on animals and had good luck on human
    babies.  
1243.10similar situationJUPITR::MAHONEYTue Dec 10 1991 14:1821
    
    I wrote in a note a while back about a similar situation. Someone I
    know found out 4 months into her pregnancy that the baby was going to
    be born with it's skull not fully formed. She was told by the dr that
    if the baby does survive the delivery it would not live but a few
    hours. Sorry to say that the baby survived 24 hrs. and passed on. 
    
    This woman got several opinions and ultrasounds which all told her the
    same thing. After suffering through this emotional and physical trauma 
    she ended up delivering the baby natural to be so overwhelmingly
    dissapointed. There was nothing that could have been done to save this
    child, he would have been brain damaged if he lived, which anyone would
    have handled if he just gotten the chance.
    
    Please don't feel guilty about having a good pregnancy compared to your
    friend, it's not your fault, or hers, it's no ones fault. It's nature.
    Just offer true blue support and compassion, I found that the woman
    above welcomed the support more than anything you could possibly do for
    her. 
    
    Sandy
1243.11a chance, anywayTLE::RANDALLliberal feminist redneck pacifistTue Dec 10 1991 14:2120
    Re: .9
    
    Yes, that was the kind of specialist I was talking about, not just
    an ordinary NICU.  
    
    They do that kind of surgery at the teaching hospital at the
    University of Texas medical school, and I think perhaps at Buffalo
    and at the University of Washington. 
    
    Memorial's a good hospital, but if the baby has a condition that
    they've only seen two of, it's a highly specialized problem and
    she might need a highly specialized location for it.   
    
    I know a great deal of recent research has involved lung
    development in babies, so there might be something experimental
    that would help.  I think I have the article around still, if you
    think your friend would like to have the name of the hospital and
    the doctor.  
    
    --bonnie
1243.12It's only an estimationSELL3::MACFAWNTraining to be tall and blondeTue Dec 10 1991 15:0732
    When I was pregnant (the first time), I had 6 doctors tell me that my
    babies heart rate was too fast to be delivered naturally.  And even
    after doing a C-section, the baby probably wouldn't live due to heart
    defects.  Sure enough, after she was born, the doctors found 3 heart
    defects and they told me that she had a 10% chance of making it through
    the night.
    
    Three days later, she was transported to New England Medical Center
    Neo-Natal Intensive Care in Boston. 
    
    Today, Alyssa is a healthy, happy go lucky 4 year old.  The problem
    with doctors is when they give an estimated chance of survival, that's
    exactly what it is - estimated.  Babies and children are a hell of a
    lot stronger than we give them credit for.   Alyssa's heart valve
    pressure was 160, which is enough to kill a human being.  A normal
    heart pressure is 0.  My daughter beat the odds, and now has a heart
    pressure of 15, after heart surgery.
    
    I've heard of so many babies born with numerous problems and with
    medication and maybe operations, everything is fine now.
    
    Your friend should not give up hope.  Tell her that we're all praying
    for her and we hope everything works out fine.  And you shouldn't feel
    guilty.  What you think she feels and what she really does feel is two
    totally different stories.  She is not going to hate you because you're
    having a baby.
    
    If you need a referral of doctors that specialize in this area, give me
    a call.  After having Alyssa, I know of quite a few that are EXCELLENT!
    
    Gail
    
1243.13Don't feel guiltMCIS5::TRIPPTue Dec 10 1991 16:5119
    First, I want you to know that is it not you who should feel guilty of
    anything.  It was actually kind of odd after we had our still birth, I
    had more concerns for my two sisters inlaw, they were both exactly 6
    weeks behind me in due date.  I didn't want to upset either of them,
    nor make them feel that this might happen to them.  My sister in law
    here locally naturally came to the graveside services.  My sister inlaw
    in Florida, I requested she not be told until after she had given
    birth, which is the way it happened fortunately.
    
    Your friend is probably in one of the best pre and post delivery
    situations in MA, just shy maybe of someplace like Boston Childrens.
    I know from experience they will do everything humanly possible to save
    both mother and baby.  I just keep asking why don't they attempt
    delivery now?  If the baby's lungs are mature.  But that's probably
    only one of a hundred what ifs and why nots.
    
    I will say a prayer for her and the baby!
    Lyn
    
1243.14GRANMA::MWANNEMACHERpeace on earth-goodwill to allTue Dec 10 1991 17:0820
    Hi Cindy,
    
    
    I would have been all over that (so-called) Dr's case and then I would
    have gone up to the hospital administrators office to tell him about
    the incident.  
    
    Tell your friend that she has some long distance friends caring and
    praying for her and her baby, Victoria.  Tell her not to give up hope,
    things happen which often cannot be explained, and I've even heard
    doctors blame it on a miracle once or twice.  I would find out all of
    the specific details and start calling different states best neonatal
    hospitals and describe what is going on and see if there is a doctor
    who has handled (hopefully successfully) this type of situation (Go to
    libraries and read medical journals even).  
    
    My prayers are with your best friend and Victoria, please let us know
    how things go.
    
    Mike
1243.15HYEND::FTSECWed Dec 11 1991 13:2123
    I've been reading this note and feeling a lot of empathy for you,
    your friend and Victoria and just wanted to alay any concerns you might
    be feeling about Memorial Hospital's NICU.  Nine years ago I had 
    an emergency CC there on a Sunday afternoon when my regular OB/GYN was
    not on call.  From the moment I entered the ER hemorrahaging, til the
    time we left 7 days later, my daughter and I received the best care
    imaginable--i.e.--they saved both our lives--and a baby born with
    no dicernable heartbeat or respiration was given CPR---and after that
    with an Apgar of 0, which later went up the scale to about 7.  Still
    not great.  She was in intensive care with tubes all over her, and in
    her stomach--she could not cry at all because of all the apparatus.  
    
    When she was finally given to me to hold, she was tiny, jaundiced, and
    looked exhausted, but she was alive.  It really was a miracle--and it
    was assisted 150% by the staff at Memorial and their expertise.  Don't
    let one doctor's "attitude" sour you on the entire NICU---I may be
    extremely prejudiced in their favor, but IMHO they know what they're
    doing and they treat each case as if it's their only one.
    
    P.S.  that very fragile baby is now a very healthy, happy and fully
    alert, intelligent 9 year old.  (Don't take Apgar's TOO seriously)
    
    Betsy
1243.16MCIS5::TRIPPWed Dec 11 1991 14:5914
    AJ is a Memorial "NICU Grad", and we have both experienced and
    witnessed some of the miracles they can perform.  Our real Estate agent
    had her child at 22 week (that's what about 4 months of pregnancy!) and
    her baby survived with no major defects thanks to Memorial.  The
    Worcester paper did an article on the baby several years ago.
    
    Just a piece of info, Memorial NICU, and most of the Worcester
    hospitals are supported in a great way by the expert staff at UMass Medical
    both the regular specialists and their students.  That pseudo-doctor who 
    was so insensitive was probalby a doctor in training from UMMC.  That is not
    putting down UMMC, they can perform their own brand of miracles!
    
    Many more good thoughts and prayers to you.
    Lyn
1243.17 My Boys Too !DPDMAI::CAMPAGNAWed Dec 11 1991 18:0614
    Both of my sons were born at Worcester Memorial NICU I had severe
    eclamsia with both). The first was emergency section at 35 weeks, with
    the second I was in the Mom's ICU wing for two weeks before he was
    born. The staff there is very well trained, and very helpful. He was
    born not breathing at all and in distress. Both are beautiful, bright
    boys now (aged 3 and 5 3/4). The doctor you ran into is not the usual
    there (I'll bet I can tell you his name....... but I won't defame
    someone on-line.....). Memorial is the NICU center for all of Central
    Massachusetts. 
    
    Please let us know how Victoria and her family are doing.
    
    Lee Ann McGonagle Campagna
    
1243.18Update and ThanksMPGS::DEVRIESThu Dec 12 1991 10:4218
    Hi Everyone,
    
    Thank you for all of your responses.  My friend has been sent home and
    is just waiting.  She has erratic contractions and the Dr. told her not
    to come back until they were steady and the pain intensifies.  The
    reason they do not want to induce labor is because they want the baby's
    lungs to develop fully as possible.  Hopefully she can hang on until 34
    weeks at which time the lungs are as developed as they can be. (That is
    2 weeks away).  
    
    I am so happy and relieved to hear the positive encounters with
    Memorial Neo-Natal ICU.  Thank goodness she will be in good hands.  I
    am going to print out some of your responses and bring them to my
    friend and I'm sure she will be greatly encouraged and have a renewed
    sense of hope.
    
    Thanks,
    Cindy  
1243.19CHCLAT::HAGENPlease send truffles!Fri Dec 13 1991 14:233
1243.20I'm holding my breathKAOFS::M_FETTalias Mrs.BarneySat Dec 14 1991 12:044
    yes, do let us know - every day I open this conference hoping for
    good news.....
    
    Monica
1243.21How about an Update----- PleaseNITMOI::OTOOLEFri Dec 20 1991 17:057
    HI,
    
    Anymore news?  I am praying for your friend and Victoria daily.
    
    
    Cindy
    
1243.22JOYOUS NEW YEAR!!!!!!!SPICE::DEVRIESThu Jan 02 1992 11:3730
    WHAT A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!
    
    If you don't believe in miracles you just might after I tell you what
    happened Christmas morning.
    
    Jennie, my friend, went into labor Christmas Eve night. Everybody was
    expecting the worst, she told the doctors and nurses that as soon as
    the baby was delivered to take it out of the room, she didn't want to
    see it.  As soon as it was born they heard crying from the baby and
    everyone, including the doctors were in shock. My cousin (the father)
    was crying outloud in the delivery room and the doctors announced that
    they had a Christmas miracle.  
    
    The baby was born 7 lb 12 oz but that was all fluid.  A couple days
    later she was down to 5 lb 6 oz.  All the fluid was being absorbed by
    her body.  All the tests they ran for disease that would cause the
    fluid in the chest were negative. 
    
    Jennie was released Friday after CHristmas and they ran out to buy a
    crib, and all the baby furniture, clothes, carseat etc.  
    I cannot believe the baby is ok and we are so Thankful. Victoria Ann
    came home yesterday at 9:30 and I saw her last night and she is
    beautiful.  
    
    Jennie and I thank you all for your support and words of encouragement
    through this tough time in our lives.
    
    Have a happy and healthy 1992.
    
    Cindy
1243.23Wonderful!!XLIB::CHANGWendy Chang, ISV SupportThu Jan 02 1992 11:406
    Cindy,
    
    What a wonderful way to start the New Year.  I am really happy
    for your friends.  And please give a big kiss to Victoria for me.
    
    Wendy
1243.24what a way to start the New Year!TIPTOE::STOLICNYThu Jan 02 1992 11:425
    
    Hallelujah! What a wonderous New Year for your friend and 
    her family....all the best to Jennie and Victoria!
    
    Carol
1243.25KAHALA::JOHNSON_LLeslie Ann JohnsonThu Jan 02 1992 12:546
Absolutely wonderful !  My eyes brimmed a little as I read your note
about Victoria Ann.  Your friend must be so thankful that she didn't
listen that one doctor's advice about terminating.  What a great way
to start the year.

Leslie
1243.26I've got goosebumps! ATE005::MIDTTUNLisa Midttun,285-3450,NIO/N4,Pole H14-15Thu Jan 02 1992 13:028
Cindy-

I've got goosebumps on my goosebumps! Like others, my eyes were welling up when 
I read your note! I didn't think I believed in miracles....your note has me
wondering....Best wishes to Victoria and her parents. What a wonderful way to
start the new year!

Lisa
1243.27Welcome, little VictoriaGEMVAX::WARRENThu Jan 02 1992 13:062
    I'm so very happy for your friends.
    
1243.28I'm so gladKAOFS::M_FETTalias Mrs.BarneyThu Jan 02 1992 13:176
    
    
    That's absolutely wonderful..............
    Your news certainly made my day (my week. my month....)!
    
    Monica
1243.29WMOIS::BARR_LThey say I'm nicetyThu Jan 02 1992 14:444
    WONDERFUL!!!  I too have goosebumps and tear filled eyes.  What a
    marvelous Christmas present!!!
    
    Lori B.
1243.30I believe!GEMINI::NICKERSONThu Jan 02 1992 14:456
    What a WONDERFUL Christmas present!  I was so afraid when I saw more
    replies to this note that it would be sad news.
    
    Must have been ALOT of people praying for your friend and Victoria!
    
    Linda
1243.31oh that doctor!!CTHQ2::KNOTTThu Jan 02 1992 14:567
    I am thrilled!  But I am aching inside thinking about that doctor who
    thought she should *kill* this baby.  I only hope that he is aching too
    with the knowledge of the mistake he made and that it will teach him
    not to be so blindly reliant on the medical odds...  Thank you for the
    news!
    
    Lisa
1243.32ALLL_RIIIIGGHHTTGRANMA::MWANNEMACHERMerry JimbleThu Jan 02 1992 15:031
    
1243.33Yes!NEWPRT::NEWELL_JOJodi Newell - Irvine, CaliforniaThu Jan 02 1992 15:118
    
    
    Oh HAPPY Day!!!
    
    Excuse me while I go blow my nose...
    
    
    Jodi-
1243.34MCIS2::DUPUISLove is grand, divorce is 20 grandThu Jan 02 1992 15:364
    CONGRATULATIONS on behalf of myself and my co-workers!!!!
    
    
    Roberta
1243.35Made MY day!CHCLAT::HAGENPlease send truffles!Thu Jan 02 1992 16:418
1243.36TOOHOT::CGOING::WOYAKThu Jan 02 1992 18:195
This is wonderful news!!!

Please congratulate little Victoria and her parents from me too.  

/Barbara
1243.37Great Ending!!!!NITMOI::OTOOLEFri Jan 03 1992 11:2311
    That is great news.  I too had been looking for a reply and praying
    constantly for the family and Victoria.  What a great name she chose.
    Why doesn't the base noter make a small book for Victoria when she gets
    older to see what a miracle she truly is.
    
    What a great present and a great way to start off the new year.
    
    I am so happy that it was great news!!!!
    
    Cindy
    
1243.38Also, a great beginning!!!WONDER::MAKRIANISPattyFri Jan 03 1992 11:595
    
    This is truly wonderful!!!! I had to control myself from crying when I
    read this. Wish them all a happy life!!!
    
    Patty
1243.39Babies are such a blessing!PROXY::HOPKINSVolunteer of the monthFri Jan 03 1992 13:133
    How WONDERFUL!!!  Doctors can be wrong sometimes.
    
    Marie
1243.40Best WishesGANTRY::CHEPURIPam ChepuriFri Jan 03 1992 14:2810
    
    
    Oh what a joyous end to a traumatic time for the parents !!!
    
    Please convey my family's best wishes for a long, healthy and happy
    life for Victoria. 
    
    Pam
    
    
1243.41I wish we could all throw a party for them !DPDMAI::CAMPAGNAFri Jan 03 1992 17:367
    
    What wonderful, wonderful news !!!!!!
    
    This is truly something to celebrate !!!!
    
    Lee Ann
    
1243.42yayayayayayayya!!DEMON::MARRAMAMon Jan 06 1992 10:328
    HIP HIP HORAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I am so happy for them, God Bless little Victoria!!!!!!!!
    Welcome to the world!!!!!
    
    
    Kim 
    
    
1243.43an answer to our prayers!MCIS5::TRIPPMon Jan 06 1992 14:4510
    This is the best news I've heard in a very long time.
    
    So glad the boss has stepped out for lunch, so he won't see me
    blubbering! I may have to convince these people the tissue is for the
    runny nose of my cold!
    
    This really brings belief that prayer can bring miracles!!
    
    Give that miracle baby a huge hug from me!
    Lyn
1243.44GLDOA::LAETZMon Jan 06 1992 17:486
    As a mostly read-only conference user, I was also looking for an update
    to this one!  
    
    Congratulations from the Kalamazoo, Michigan office!
    
    Jolene
1243.45WOW!SPICE::DEVRIESTue Jan 07 1992 16:327
    WOW! Was I ever suprised to see the number of responses! Thank you all
    again and as one person suggested, I am going to make a book for little
    Victoria so she will know how many people prayed for her survival. 
    
    Take care,
    
    Cindy
1243.46YAYYYYYYY!!!!!CSC32::DUBOISLoveTue Jan 07 1992 17:573
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who cries from happy news like this!  :-}
       
      Carol
1243.47PCOJCT::REISGod is my refugeTue Jan 07 1992 18:466
    
    Isn't God wonderful!!!! Congratulations to the new parents and welcome
    to Victoria...Truly an answer to prayers, God must have great things in
    store for the whole family...
    
    Trudy
1243.48SUPER::WTHOMASWed Jan 08 1992 11:267
    
    	Every now and then we are allowed a glimpse into the universe to
    see that yes indeed, there is a loving God.
    
    	My best wishes to the parents and to the baby Victoria.
    
    			Wendy
1243.49She has great parentsFROSTY::SKONETSKIThu Jan 09 1992 15:1211
I am sitting here in my office with tears streaming down my face.  I was almost
afraid to check this note again.  How happy the parents must be to have the
opportunity to hold their child.  It does anger me that some Dr's recomend
termination of a pregancy when there is a chance they could be wrong.

I commend your "cousin and cousin in law" for their values.

Regards,

Sue (mostly read only)

1243.50MILPND::PIMENTELWed Jan 15 1992 12:413
    I just logged in so I got the whole scoop at once.  Thank you God for
    your miracles and on Christmas morning too!!
    
1243.51What wonderful news!!!POCUS::GIARDIELLOWed Jan 15 1992 13:5918
    I am another expectant mother (1st child due on 4/15) who has only 
    been a notes reader but never a writer until now.
    
    I read about Victoria and her problem yesterday and went home to tell
    my husband about her and her problem.  We both prayed for her last
    night and then this morning I got to the note that told of her
    miraculous recovery.
    
    I too had tears in my eyes and my first thought was that I hope the
    uncaring doctor who gave such bad advice to your friend was as touched
    by the outcome as we all were.
    
    I agree with one of the other repliers who said that God must have big
    plans in store for that wonderful little baby!  Please wish them all
    the best from all of us who as parents, and expectant parents, felt for
    them and the pain they must have been going through.
    
    Elaine
1243.52CSOA1::ZACKMon Feb 17 1992 15:4210
    Cindy,
    
    I am finally catching up on all my unread notes since my maternity
    leave and this one has really touched me.  I had tears in my eyes while
    reading each and every note.   
    
    I'm so happy that everything turned out ok.
    
    Angie
    
1243.53wonderful news!EMDS::CUNNINGHAMMon Feb 17 1992 17:509
    
    I just finally had time to read through this note and its replies,
    since returning to work on Jan  7, and I too have tears in my eyes
    and goosebumps on my goosebumps!
    
    Thank god for miracles!
    
    Chris
    
1243.54Brilliant NewsMACNAS::BHARMONKEEP GOING NO MATTER WHATTue Feb 18 1992 08:267
    Like, the two replies before, I am finally catching up on my notes
    since returning from maternity leave on Feb. 3rd.   Thank God
    everything went well.   Welcome into the world little Victoria
    and congratulations to the parents.
    
    
    Bernie
1243.55Updates?KAOFS::M_FETTalias Mrs.BarneyTue Feb 18 1992 13:528
    
    To the Basenoter:
    I am sure that ALL of us would really like to know how little
    Victoria and her family are getting along; is she doing okay?
    
    Sending good thoughts and well-wishes,
    
    Monica