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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

1190.0. "My not-so-perfect 4 year old . . ." by CAPNET::CROWTHER (Maxine 276-8226) Wed Oct 30 1991 10:25

    I need some advice from all you parents out there.  I have a 4 1/2
    year old girl who is a perfectionist, but not about everything. 
    Yesterday at day care she went ballistic when a picture she was trying
    to draw was not exactly like her friends. She had a tantrum and the
    rest of her morning was a wash out.  Fortunately the tantrums are
    few and far between. 
    
    Drawing seem to be an area where her perfect-ness shows very strongly.
    Often she will ask me to draw a picture and if it isn't exactly what
    she wants (99%) of the time, she tells me I did it wrong and starts
    to cry!  Very recently light dawned about drawing inside the lines.
    She does it perfectly and if the slightest color is outside, the
    picture is runied.
    
    She is not overly neat or compulsive about other things and, in
    general, is well-behaved though assertive.
    
    Any advice?? I feel like I can't see the forest for the trees.
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1190.1Sympathy but no adviceICS::NELSONKWed Oct 30 1991 17:417
    Maxine, your note describes my sister-in-law to a T.  Elaine is
    very hard on herself.  Mike says that when she was in school,
    her idea of "bombing a test" was getting a B on it.  No advice
    here...just sympathy...Has anything changed in her life recently
    -- new day care, peer pressure from new friends, etc., etc.?
    Maybe a talk with the pedi will help.  I think he's going to tell
    you that you just have to live with it, unfortunately.
1190.2MCIS5::WOOLNERPhotographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and denseWed Oct 30 1991 17:5714
    Sounds like you have a budding artist with more talent than she knows
    what to do with!
    
    Alex, now 6 1/2,  occasionally goes through (seemingly random) 
    perfectionist phases.  All I've been able to think of, aside from
    noting that these tantrums usually occur when she's overtired, is to
    remind her of something specific that she has now mastered and is proud
    of but had a hard time with "when she was little."  She will grudgingly
    admit that practice did make perfect *in that case*, though whatever
    she's currently frustrated about doesn't benefit from the talk.  But the
    next time she tackles that activity, she seems to cut herself a little
    more slack.
    
    Leslie  
1190.3Over-achievers ...CALS::JENSENFri Nov 01 1991 10:2610
I read a very interesting article a few weeks back in the Boston Globe
describing children who are "over-achievers", the signs, the pros and
the cons.

Perfectionist was one of the signs.

Got to run ... just a thought.

Dottie
1190.4Ah, 4 year-olds...DSSDEV::STEGNERFri Nov 01 1991 21:1013
    Four-year-olds tend to be bundles of emotions, and therefore very prone
    to tantrums.  While it's far from pleasant, I'd really try not to worry
    too much.  It's most likely just a phase.
    
    When my 4 year old was at the doctor's, something pissed him off and he
    went right down on the floor and threw a *classic* tantrum.  Everyone
    in the waiting room stared at me (What did that beast of a mother do to
    that poor little boy???).  My doctor looked down and said, "Yup--
    that's four."  I said, "You mean I have a whole YEAR of this to go
    through????"
    
    It wasn't a year, but I saw about three month's worth of tantrums...
    
1190.5I've been there...and it went away!GNUVAX::MINERMom...I'm as happy as a sharkMon Nov 04 1991 16:0618
    
    My now 5 1/2 year old son was identical to your description.  His
    perfectness was his drawing also and he took it VERY SERIOUSLY. 
    Advice?  The only piece of advice I have is to remain a pillar of
    sanity (yeah, right).  Don't negate her feelings, just tell her YOU think 
    it's beautiful just the way it is and that you understand that it bothers
    her when she doesn't do it exactly the way she intended.   If she wants
    you to draw a picture have her explain it carefully before you draw it.
    If my son would walk me through his imaginary picture before I drew it
    I had a much better shot at getting it "his way".  
    
    Ray of hope: This passes.  Now his drawing is much more haphazard
    mostly because there is so much he wants to draw that he's rushing...
    but at least it doesn't bother him so much anymore if it's not perfect.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Dorothy