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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

772.0. "too many nosebleeds!!!" by USHS11::CREBER () Fri Mar 15 1991 20:32

    Has anyone out there had experience with frequent nosebleeds?
    My daughter had always been prone to them such as when she is bumped 
    or when its too hot outside etc.  But this week she has had one almost
    every day and yesterday she had three.  Today she just called me and
    said it started again.  So far we have tried ice packs, pinching, and
    lots of everyones patience.  It seems to be getting worse now so I
    tried to get the Dr's office to sqeeze her in today but they couldn't. 
    The Dr. said to try washing out the nostril with cold water and then
    putting neosporin in.  We will try this but I really don't think this
    will help.  They told me to try again Monday for a Dr's appointment.  I
    really need to find a solution quick.  Has anyone had any experience
    with cauterization of the blood vessels?  The school nurse said that
    may be one option.  
    
    regards,
    
    Lynne Creber
    
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772.1Nosebleeds and CauterizationNODEX::HOLMESMon Mar 18 1991 11:3510
    I had lots of nosebleeds when I was a kid too.  The slightest thing
    would set it off.  I had my nose cauterized several times.  I was
    pretty young, so I don't remember too much of the procedure, but it
    involved sticking a "stick" with some sort of chemicals on the end up
    there on the bleeding part.  I remember that it didn't hurt as much as
    I thought it would.  When I was somewhere around 11 or 12 years old,
    the frequent nosebleeds just stopped -- I don't know why.  Good luck
    with your daughter.
    
                                                 Tracy
772.2STAR::MACKAYC'est la vie!Mon Mar 18 1991 12:3011
    
    My daughter used to have nosebleed almost every night in the winter
    when the air is dry or when she is bumped. The pediatrician told
    us to put vaseline inside the nostrils everyday. That helps a lot.
    The reason for her nosebleed was that she fell down and hurt her
    nose and the blood vessels weren't healing quite right. She should 
    grow out of that and in the mean time, the vaseline works wonders.
    We coat a Qtip with vaseline and apply.
    
    
    Eva.
772.3Dry airMSESU::HOPKINSGive PEACE a chanceMon Mar 18 1991 14:352
    My son did also and a humidifier helped tremendously.
    
772.4What Our Pediatrician RecommendedTOTH::HILDEBRANDToday's CAN'Ts are Tomorrow's CANs.Mon Mar 18 1991 15:5031
    
    
    Nose bleeds run in my family--my Mom, me, my brother, and now my son.
    
    My son Doug's has been so bad that we did ask the pediatrician about
    it.  He said that when the nose bleeds several times during the day, or
    week, it is because the inside of the nose is not healing; essentially,
    it is the same nosebleed.  
    
    What he recommended was to spray Doug's nose with Afrin once or twice
    or day for a week.  We have had to do this several times with Doug but
    usually, I'll limit it to three or four days and spray only once a day. 
    (As some of you may know, you can become dependent upon nose sprays.)
    
    Part of the reasoning why the nose spray works, is because the
    membranes are swollen and can not heal easily.  The spray reduces the
    swelling, and the membranes can heal.  
    
    The pediatrician was not in any hurry to cauterize because it is not
    always successful and the tendency toward nose bleeds often is
    outgrown.  This is true definitely for me and my brother.
    
    Doug is currently seven and we have been using the spray for about 2
    years.  You may wish to ask your pediatrician about this.
    
    
    					Regards,
    
    					Darlene
    
    
772.5??How to remove dry blood??HSOMAI::CREBERWed Mar 20 1991 21:0717
    Thanks everyone for all your suggestions.  I was able to get her
    sqeezed in at the Dr's office yesterday.  She showed me the blood
    vessel involved and told me to put neosporin on it three or four times
    a day.  She also told me to give her a decongestant in morning and
    again at night.  She explained that sometimes children will scratch
    during their sleep and keep the area irritated.  I asked about the
    cauterization, but she didn't think that would be necessary.  We'll
    keep our fingers crossed and hope it eventually stops. It gets pretty
    depressing tho when she gets blood on a new dress like she did today. 
    I need to find something that will remove it after it had been dryed.
    
    
    regards,
    
    Lynne Creber
    
     
772.6NEURON::REEVESThu Mar 21 1991 13:277
    RE -1
    
    	Try Hydrogen Peroxide to remove blood.  My SO's step-mother is an
    RN and that is what she uses on her uniforms. 
    
    FWIW, 
    M
772.7This removes LOTS of stainsUSEM::SENAThu Mar 21 1991 15:549
    Re:  .5
    
    If the peroxide doesn't work you might want to try the following :
    Fill the kitchen sink with boiling water.  Stir in 1/2 cup of
    dishwasher detergent (Sunlight, cascade, etc).  Add 1/2 cup of bleach, 
    stir, and soak the clothes for 1/2 hour.  Launder as usual.
    
    -Joy
    
772.8re .7: heat SETS blood stainsPERFCT::WOOLNERPhotographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and denseThu Mar 21 1991 16:281
    
772.9KAOFS::S_BROOKAsk Not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for ME!Thu Mar 21 1991 16:424
    Beware when mixing things with bleach ... you can create some
    pretty noxious gasses.
    
    Stuart
772.10Only use it if nothing else works !USEM::SENAFri Mar 22 1991 12:0410
    Re: .8
    
    As you can see, we don't get blood stains very often :-).
    
    I guess what I was attempting to say was that if all else fails, you
    (the basenoter) might try the bleach/dishwasher detergent solution as
    a last resort.
    
    -Joy
    
772.11Hydrogen Peroxide saved her dress!!HSOMAI::CREBERFri Mar 22 1991 14:2713
    Thanks again everyone...  Well, I tried the hydrogen peroxide and it
    worked.  She had one more nosebleed on Wednesday, but no more since. 
    We're put the neosporin in each nostril and giving her the
    decongestants only before bed as I think this is the critical time.  I
    hate to give her anything before school as it might make her too sleepy
    to concentrate on school work.  Well so far so good, and if we make it
    through the weekend without a problem, then I will be real happy.  Will
    update again next week.
    
    regards,
    
    Lynne C.
    
772.12Era Plus/lukewarm H2O?JAWS::WOOLNERPhotographer is fuzzy, underdeveloped and denseFri Mar 22 1991 14:318
    .10, I don't get 'em *very* often... but as the owner of a menstrual
    cycle that has a syncopated rhythm all its own, I get a few surprises. 
    [I'm not an axe murderer....   =:-O  ...yet....!   :-D  ]
    
    Don't know if Era Plus in lukewarm water would get it *all* out of a
    white t-shirt, but I'd try it.
    
    Leslie
772.13TEKVAX::KOPECNetwork partner executedMon Apr 01 1991 15:179
    I've had a lot of nosebleeds since I was a teenager.. often it's
    correlated with dry air, but sometimes one sprouts for no apparent
    reason. I was diagnosed as having a few weak blood vessels in my nose,
    and was given a tube of (essentially) vaseline to coat the inside of my
    nose with. That was about 15 years ago; today, I just Vaseline and a
    Qtip.. being lazy, I don't doit all the time; when I get a bloody nose,
    I'll keep up with the vaseline once a day for abot a week.
    
    ...tom
772.14How about Saline Spray, like "OCEAN"??NRADM::TRIPPLMon Apr 08 1991 15:2828
    Re: the ones with stain removal...I'd steer away from bleach in the
    water unless it's white or a light color.  Recently several people have
    raved about those stain stick things that you just wipe over the stain
    and then you can put it in the wash several days later.  My sister
    inlaw, at a recent birthday party, simply stopped the kid in his tracks
    applied it to his chocolate stained jersy, and off he went without
    missing a beat.  It appears colorless so it doesn't show when applied.
    I do tend to agree about being careful about what you mix with bleach,
    you can create some real interesting scents.
    
    RE:  the thoughts on Afrin and other nasal spray, these tend to have
    "rebound" effects, which means when it wears off the nasal stuffiness
    may be worse each time.  Are you sure the pedi wasn't suggesting the
    new Afrin Saline solution?  Saline is probably the most common and most
    harmless way of moisturinzing the nasal cavities.
    
    RE:  the drowsiness associated with decongestants, there's a fairly new
    prescription drug out there called Seldane, it seems to act as a 12
    hour decongestant and won't cause drowsiness.  A friend of ours has an
    11 year old who has been taking it for a couple years now for various
    allergies that trigger his asthma.  I've taken it and find it works
    well, without drowsiness.  Sudofed is also along the same lines of
    working to eliminate stuffiness without the drowsiness.
    
    I'm no medical expert, just have had a lot of trial and error
    experience.
    
    Lyn
772.15Definitely Afrin DecongestantTOTH::HILDEBRANDToday's CAN'Ts are Tomorrow's CANs.Mon Apr 08 1991 16:599
    
    
    Re. 14:
    
    The pediatrician definitely suggested the Afrin decongestant spray. 
    This was within the last 1 1/2 to 2 years.
    
    
    
772.16no more nosebleeds.....HSOMAI::CREBERTue Apr 23 1991 20:2314
    Just thought I'd update ya'll on my daughters progress.  Well we have
    not had a nosebleed in almost two weeks.  Boy what a relief.  She has
    taken up responsibility for putting the neosporin in her nostrils, even
    takes it to school.  But the school nurse has to keep it in her office
    and so we've decided to keep the treatments confined to home.  The
    benadryl has helped also.  Its been great not having to rush back home
    to change clothes on our way to school or anywhere for that matter. 
    And I'm sure it's been nice for the school nurse also.  
    
    regards,
    
    Lynne C.