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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

689.0. "CRAWLING AN ESSENTIAL STAGE ??" by DONVAN::MUISE () Thu Feb 07 1991 16:11

    Has anyone heard the "new theory" that if a baby by-passes
    the crawling stage, it can be detramental to it's health?
    It can be an underlying cause of dyslexia, or fine tuning
    certain physical skills later in life?
    
    I have never heard of this.  In fact, my main source of
    info has always been Spock, who actually says that many
    babies will never crawl... simply go right to walking when
    ready, and that this is a perfectly normal scenario.
    
    Several friends of mine have been talking about new discoveries
    indicating the importance of having your baby crawl.  My last
    baby is now 7 1/2 months old and has no interest in crawling
    whatsoever.  I'm fairly certain she will walk before she crawls.
    
    My other daughter happened to go through the typical channels,
    and crawled before she walked.
    
    Anyone know anything about this?  Should I be concerned?
    
    Thanks,
    Jacki
     
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689.1Maybe a long time agoTPS::JOHNSONThu Feb 07 1991 16:4019
    Jacki,
    
    I believe this is an "old" theory/discovery.  Years 
    ago (sometime in the late '60's, I think) my Mom
    would go with a group of women to help this young
    boy learn how to crawl.  I know I don't have all
    the facts, I was only about 6 or 7 at the time.
    The way I remember it, he was older than me and he
    had bypassed crawling.  They were reteaching him
    so that he wouldn't have learning disabilities.
    
    Gee, this looks strange now that I've typed it in.
    I'll ask my Mom about it again...
    
    Since then, I have heard that it's okay if a baby
    never learns to crawl.
    
	I hope this calms your fears.
    	Linda
689.2a baby legendCSSE32::RANDALLPray for peaceThu Feb 07 1991 17:2835
This almost qualifies as an urban legend, and like most urban legends
it has a grain of truth way down at the bottom under all the layers of
myth and misunderstandings.

Children with certain kinds of developmental disorders skip creeping.  Note,
not crawling, creeping -- the stage where they drag themselves around on 
their stomachs.  

In the late 1960's, developmental scientists discovered that a technique
called "patterning," in which a child's arms and legs were moved in the
motion of creeping for several hours several times a day, could apparently
"imprint" a new layer of learning in the brains of some of these
developmentally disabled children, enabling them to progress far 
beyond what was usual for that kind of disability.  _Reader's_Digest_
had a couple of heartwarming stories about the miracles that could be
worked by dedicated parents applying patterning to children everyone else
had given up on.

Some doctors, or writers of baby books, extrapolated from that that lack
of creeping would indicate the presence of the developmental disorder.
This is apparently a false corelation, though it took a while to establish 
that many perfectly normal kids did things in a different order than the 
baby books said they should.  [Must be because kids don't read baby books:) ]
 Doctors of the "better safe than sorry" school did as .1 mentions
and had parents of kids who didn't creep before they crawled go back 
and pick up those stages.   Then they expanded it to kids who didn't go 
through all the developmental stages in order, which is where crawling 
got involved.  

Other doctors took the patterning technique and tried to apply it to every
case of developmental handicap, even brain damage.  That didn't work 
either.  I don't think patterning is now used regularly to treat any
but cases in which all other treatment has failed to help the child.

--bonnie
689.3KAOFS::S_BROOKAsk Not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for ME!Thu Feb 07 1991 17:5610
>baby books said they should.  [Must be because kids don't read baby books:) ]
    
    I thought it was because writes of baby books don't study real kids!
    Don't they just read what other people have written about the way kids
    develop and behave and comment on that ?  Why should they bother to
    look at real kids ... after all other people have done that already ?!
    
    :-)
    
    Stuart
689.4only 7 months?HYSTER::DELISLEFri Feb 08 1991 11:528
    7 1/2 months is somewhat early to show interest in crwling in my
    experience.  I don't think but one of my kids crawled before nine
    months.  And then they only went backwards.  The one that did crawl
    early walked at ten months.
    
    I also remember stories similar to that of the last noter about
    "patterning" for learning disabled children.
    
689.5Can't prove it by my sonMSESU::HOPKINSGive PEACE a chanceFri Feb 08 1991 13:147
    My son, who is now 18, never crawled.  He started standing at 7 months
    and walked at 9 months...I couldn't believe it!  He's fine.
    My daughter on the other hand didn't walk until she was about 18
    months.  She figured why walk when I can get someone to carry me.
    
    Marie
    
689.6Worry-WartBOOKS::JORDANFri Feb 08 1991 16:028
    Gee, now I'm a bit worried. Neal is 8 months old and the most
    he can do when set on his stomach is the sky-diver's pose.
    Sometimes he spins himself like a board-game spinner. . . 
    He sits well by himself, when put in a sitting position. 
    And he actually runs in his walker. But the creeping and 
    crawling just isn't there. I can't imagine a baby just 
    skipping the creeping/crawling stages for walking. Isn't
    creeping/crawling a natural progression to walking?
689.7STAR::MACKAYC'est la vie!Fri Feb 08 1991 16:319
    
    My daughter didn't crawl until she was 10 mos old, and crawled for 
    about 2 months, after that she was walking.
    She was a chunky kid, her arms and knees were simply not strong enough
    to carry her weigh until then. Also, she was a mellow baby, she wasn't
    very anxious to crawl - she loved the walker though.
    
    
    Eva.
689.8What I've heard...APACHE::APACHE::FRIEDRICHSTake the money and run!Fri Feb 08 1991 16:526
    We were told by our son's PT that it is important to know how to crawl.
    Crawling develops the stomach muscles and hip flexors which help in overall
    balance later, and also with coordination of arms and legs.  It is also
    very similar to the way kids get up from the floor to standing and may help 
    in learning that.  Basically what I'm saying is... PT's feel it is an
    important part of development.
689.9No Crawling hereCOGITO::FRYEFri Feb 08 1991 19:5717
    re:  -1 

	PT?  Physical Therapist?  I'm just guessing.

    re:  .6  

	My daughter never really crawled and didn't walk until 15 months.  
	When she did walk she was *Really* ready and did very little 	
	falling.  She was a very content kid (then) and when we would
	place toys out of reach to encourage crawling she would reach
	once and then turn her attention to her fingers, the nap of 
	the rug.....

	No seeming ill effects - at 7 1/2 she is doing very well for
	her age in ballet.

	Norma
689.10Why Crawl when you can run?DPDMAI::MACHIANOTue Apr 02 1991 17:4513
    My son, who is now 17, never crawled. In fact, he would run around his
    playpen with one hand on the rail. He really enjoyed his walker.
    
    Today, this 17 year old has completed 3 seasons of high school
    football, stands 6'1", and weighs in at 195lbs. So much for the
    physical effects of not crawling.
    
    Also, he has scored in the top 5% of Juniors in the U.S. (according
    to the PSAT - which is good because it might mean scholarship $$$),
    is in the top 10% of his school, and is an Eagle Scout. So much for the
    developmental concerns of not crawling.
    
    In short, don't worry - be happy!
689.11LJOHUB::CRITZJohn Ellis to ride RAAM '91Tue Apr 02 1991 18:189
    	My mother says I never crawled. That made things tough
    	on her. She said I weighed 41 pounds when I started to
    	walk. Mom has never weighed more than 114 pounds, so she
    	worked hard with me.
    
    	Today, at age 43, I'm 6'6'', 270 pounds. It didn't seem
    	to bother me any.