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Conference moira::parenting_v3

Title:Parenting
Notice:READ 1.27 BEFORE WRITING
Moderator:CSC32::DUBOIS
Created:Wed May 30 1990
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1364
Total number of notes:23848

23.0. "Infant/Toddler Swimming" by SHARE::SATOW () Wed Jun 13 1990 18:48

It's rare for a co-mod to _add_ a topic, but I'm going to do it.

Note 2296 mentions two issues; first, swimming while you are pregnant, and 
second, taking your infant/toddler swimming.  I think both are worthy of 
discussion, but later, on if someone is looking for information about starting 
their infant/toddler swimming, they may not consult this note.  So I've 
extracted the replies to 2296 that talk about infant/toddler swimming, edited 
them (to remove the references to `swimming while pregnant'), and reposted 
them as responses to this note.  I hope nobody minds.

Responses to note 2296 remain as they were.  However I have posted a reply 
that suggests that people who have comments about infants/toddlers swimming 
place their comments in this note.

I also call your attention to:
		 448  	Swimming Classes in Worcester area
		 541  	Swim Device
		1685 	Toddler Swim Classes
		2046	Swimsuit (and diaper?)

I suggest that we use note 1685 to post information about specific 
infant/toddler swim classes

Clay Satow
co-mod

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23.1Reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:4922
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LARVAE::WATSON_C "Outside of the boundaries!"        19 lines   5-JUN-1990 04:47
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    Hi!
    
				. . .

    
    Also, being a keen swimmer I'd love to take "Nipper" with me as soon as
    possible after the birth, when would be safe to take him/her for the
    first time - I know I'll have to give it a while to recover myself, but
    was wondering about the baby's belly button and stuff.
    
    Any other swimmers who've taken Baby with them?
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Chris   :-)
    

23.2reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5016
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MAJORS::MANDALINCI                                   17 lines   5-JUN-1990 05:00
                               -< go for it!!! >-
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				    .  .  .
    
    Check with you pedi about when to take the baby in. Since the baby will
    be born during the warmer weather you at least have that on you side. 
    
    Happy Laps!!!
    
    Andrea
    

23.3reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5010
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FDCV07::HSCOTT "Lynn Hanley-Scott"                    7 lines   5-JUN-1990 08:23
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				.  .  .
    
    Definitely ask the pedi about when to take the "young seal" with you.
    

23.4reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5117
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SCAACT::COX "Kristen Cox - Dallas ACT Sys Mgr"       11 lines   5-JUN-1990 09:15
                            -< Mine swam at 3 mos. >-
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I'm sure people have taken their little tykes in the water much sooner, but
I took Kati in at about 3 months (she was born in Feb. and we had her in the
water by May).  I signed her up for swim lessons at 5 months and she *LOVED*
it - went under water and all!  Most of the other babies in her class were
between 12 and 18 months, and were SCARED TO DEATH and CRIED the whole time.
The teachers said Kati may not have been old enough to fear the water at 5 mos.
which was why she did so well.

I probably would have taken her in the water sooner if the weather was right!

Kristen

23.5reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5220
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NAC::KNOX "Donna Knox"                               14 lines   5-JUN-1990 11:28
                      -< sensitive skin = pedi says wait >-
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    Like Kristen in .6, both my kids were born in February (now 3 1/4 and
    1 1/4 years old), but they did not go into our pool until after they were
    6 months old (August).  This was on their pedi's recommendation because 
    they both have sort-of sensitive skin and he and I felt, why take a chance.
    Even then, we kept the clorine level fairly low in the pool (but still 
    effective, i.e. no algae).  He also had the same recommendation about the
    ocean.  After 6 months when they did get in, Jessica was fine, but Billy 
    did have a slight reaction to the salt water at the beach.  He had no 
    reaction to the clorine in the pool.
    
    As usual, every baby and every pedi are different, so please check
    with yours about this. 
    
    Donna

23.6reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5226
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SSDEVO::HODGES                                       20 lines   5-JUN-1990 19:57
                           -< Infant swimming hints >-
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    Note on infant swimming:
    
    I used to teach swimming lessons and guide parents in
    parent-tot-classes. We had infants as young as 8 weeks. It's been
    a while, but I believe that once the umbilical cord is healed, that
    infant swimming is fine - just make sure they stay warm enough; unlike
    what most parents believe, they usually protest to the cold rather
    than the water.
    
    To enhance the introduction stage, I have noticed that many
    "park-and-recreation" pools hold infant classes in a small pool
    that is heated much higher than the normal pool. Many parents have
    found that this creates a "pleasent" swimming experience. Warning
    though: as the baby gets older they will object more to swimming
    lessons in the "real" pool if you don't get them adjusted to
    the normal pool temps over time....not a pretty sight when they
    are in a class of 8-10 kids and all the other parents are watching!
    
    Julia Hodges
                                       

23.7reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5324
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DPDMAI::CROMWELLK                                    18 lines   6-JUN-1990 11:09
                                 -< SWIM !!!! >-
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    I'm not an avid swimmer but I do LOVE to get into the pool with Kendall
    and play around.  We got Kendall in as soon as the water was warm
    enough. (born April 3rd - Texas) I think she was about 8 weeks...she
    loved it but did not like water in her face.  Now she is 14 months and
    we *can't* keep her out of the pool.  Kendall swims at the sitters and
    then every evening when we get home we go for a dip, then for a walk
    and bed time... them mom and dad get to go back out for a swim.  Since
    I'm 6 months PG now the pool and I will become VERY good friends with
    the Texas summer!  Not to mention it is soooo relaxing.
    
    I can see that life guard's face!  It is amazing how you sometimes
    forget that you are PG...but whats worse is when people think that 
    you *should not* be doing what you are doing...and you think it is 
    OKAY!  
    
    That's enough rambling.... 
    
    KC

23.8reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5314
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BUNYIP::QUODLING "Wanna walk with a limp?"            9 lines  12-JUN-1990 14:03
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   Back where we come from (Australia), you can actually swim all year around,
   rather than walking on the water for a major part of the year. As I recall,
   we had Andrew at swim lessons at about 3-4 months of age. He now takes to
   water like the proverbial Duck. And, as a two year old, he knows how to
   react in water. i.e. Keeping mouth closed. etc. Early Drown-proofing
   Training is very popular in Australia.
   
   q
   

23.9reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5420
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MAJORS::RUMBELOW "Three twoderful five words"        17 lines  13-JUN-1990 08:51
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    I have just started taking my 12 month old daughter to swimming
    lessons, and I really wish I had started sooner, we're both having such
    a good time.  The age range is 3 months to 3 years, and the 18 months -
    3 year olds, who haven't been in the pool before, are definately having
    more trouble than the 3 - 18 months old ones.  So it seems that the
    sooner you start, the better.  Most people I know waited until their
    babies had had the first polio/tetanus/whooping cough/diphtheria jab at
    around 3 months before starting, but I'm not sure if there was any
    medical reason for this.  Check with your doctor, but you can probably
    start swimming when ever you feel up to it (and don't be too
    disheartened if this takes longer than you'd imagined!).  
    
				.  .  .
    
    - Janet    

23.10reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5418
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ELMAGO::PHUNTLEY                                     11 lines  13-JUN-1990 13:22
                                 -< I did it! >-
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				   .  .  .

    I took Josh (now a year old) swimming at two
    months and he loved it.  We have moved into a house so we don't
    have a pool anymore but Josh and I spent hot afternoons in his wading
    pool and he loves it!  In fact for his first birthday I bought him
    a bathing suit and life jacket--here we come Elephant Butte Lake!
    
    Talk to your pedi.
    
    Pam

23.11reposted by moderatorSHARE::SATOWWed Jun 13 1990 18:5517
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RDVAX::COLLIER "Bruce Collier"                       12 lines  13-JUN-1990 13:27
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    Swimming with an infant can indeed be great fun, partly because most
    have little or no fear of the water.  But kids who love swimming at 6
    months or a year may develop fears later.  Those scared 3 years old may
    have had wonderful lessons at 3 months.  At least this is true in my
    experience with kids using an outdoor neighborhood pool.  It may be
    different for kids swiming continuously year-round.  Also, until age 5
    or 6, skills aquired one summer don't really persist very well until
    the next one.  So, I'm not at all sure that early swimming is
    _important_ (or any kind of safety factor), even though it is
    enjoyable.
    
    		- Bruce

23.12Don't forget the BABY-FLOAT!HPSCAD::DJENSENThu Jun 14 1990 09:4623
    
    Not sure how old JA was when we put her in an indoor heated pool (at a
    motel) ... maybe 5'ish months old.  She's been swimming around in our
    jacuzzi since about 3 months of age  (it's heated and we keep the
    chemical usage on the low side).  NO side affects.
    
    However, this summer, we're going to have to be a little more careful
    at both Grandparent's pool sides, as JA seems prone to ear infections
    (mostly when she's teething).  Not sure if the pool water will be a
    contributor or not, but we're going to attempt to keep the ears as dry
    as possible  (we haven't in the past).
    
    Also, we bought JA one of those baby-floats  (blow-up tube with a baby
    seat).  They are GREAT!!!  Saves on your arms and shoulders and gives
    baby a lot more freedom to kick and spin  (of course, you never leave
    the baby unattended!).  They are cheap ($3-7 in the department stores).
    We have two of them  (I know - ONE BABY!, but we leave one at each
    grandparents home -- and may get a third to carry around with us -- as
    they're cheap enough!).
    
    Dottie
    

23.13Can't get ear infections from swimmingCHCLAT::HAGENPlease send truffles!Thu Jun 14 1990 13:0118
23.14Early didn't matter with mine...COGITO::FRYEThu Jun 14 1990 17:3128
    I started Maggie swimming at either 4 or 6 months (the memory is the
    first thing to go....) in lessons a a local Y - mainly because I love
    the water myself and thought it would be a fun thing to do with my
    baby.  We kept at it pretty regularly switching to an outdoor pool club
    in the summer.  Then at about 12 months, back to the indoor pool for
    lessons and Maggie pitched a fit and wouldn't go near the water.  We
    spent the 8 weeks of lessons sitting on the edge of the pool.  
    
    We finally figured that her fear was not of the water per se, but of
    the pool at the Y.  When we switched back there and went out to the
    pool for the first class, the din level with 50 or so kids in lessons
    ending and lessons beginning in this big, echoey place scared her to
    death.  She has always reacted badly to loud noises (still does at 
    6 1/2).  However, the damage was done and that was it for swimming
    until she was almost 4.  At that point the light went on and she became
    a little fish almost over night.
    
    My son also went through a period of fearfulness out-of-the blue that
    stared about the same time although he is nearly a swimmer on his own
    now at three.  
    
    So the previous comment was right about not assuming that the older
    babies who were reluctant or crying hadn't been exposed to the water
    early......
    
    Norma 
                                                                     

23.15no fear at allSWAM2::WRIGHT_ROThu Jun 14 1990 18:2622
    Hi!
    
    I love the water.  Always have.  I have been swimming since I was
    three.  I took several lessons and became a life gaurd in high school,
    while i was on the swim team.  So terfore it seemed very natural for me
    to take Adam in the water as soon as it got warm enough whicch in
    california is almost always.  
    
    We started Mommy and me classes last summer when Adam was 7 mo.
    He loved it, even the part where I would blow in his face and then dunk
    him.  I had wondered what lessons would be like this year, but recently
    i joined a health club with an outdoor pool and saw a lot of kids
    jumping in.  I thought i bet Adam would enjoy this activity. and alas
    he loves to jump in, sit on the edge and push himself in and to be
    thrown to his dad.  he stays under a lot longer now and doesn't seem to
    mind at all. We start lessons on the 23rd of june in an indoor pool
    should prove to be interesting.  I sure wish he would kick though.  he
    sure is a lazy boy.
    
    roseann
    

23.16Really! THANKS!! Ok, JA, go get your float!HPSTEK::JENSENThu Jun 14 1990 19:069
    Lori:
    
    THANKS!  Here I was going to "semi-ground" JA from the water to avoid
    ear infections!  HHuummm ... 
    
    JA sends a BIG THANKS, too.
    
    Dottie

23.17Maybe a fish in the making...CHEFS::MANDALINCIAMon Jun 18 1990 08:4425
    The first real exposure to swimming my son had was at 5 1/2 months
    in the ocean. We had one of thoses baby floats like Dottie mentioned
    and they are fantastic - safe and allows the child to kick their
    legs. Berk had no problem with the salt water either but he was
    also slicked up with baby waterproof sunscreen. 
    
    We went back to Turkey the following year (for 7 weeks) and I was
    really afraid of what his reaction was going to be to the water.
    We only swan a few times during the winter but he loved it then.
    He did great with both the ocean and the pool this summer. He was
    running and jumping in by himself  and wasn't afraid of going under
    (in the pool only). I didn't want to dunk him under in the ocean
    mostly for fear of it not being "treated" and who knows what organisms
    are floating around in it. 
    
    I personally think it is just exposure that deminishes children's
    fear of water. Pressure to perform in swimming classes without
    ever really feeling comfortable in the water first would make the
    child more afraid, I would think. Having fun in the water first,
    feeling comfortable and them maybe taking some lessons is the best
    route. I think both my husband and I were born with gills so we'll
    have to see how Berk does over the next couple years.
    
    Andrea            

23.18Pond swimming?CECV01::GRAYTue Jun 19 1990 15:469
    I'm so glad to hear it's worked so well for all of you.  I'm dying to
    take my 4 1/2 month old Matthew.  But how about pond water, such as
    Walden?  Any chance of the algae causing problems?
    
     Also, would love to have some company to take the babies
    for a swim. Please give me a call at DTN 249-4112 or 508-369-2713 if
    interested.
    
    Anne 
23.19RDVAX::COLLIERBruce CollierThu Jun 21 1990 18:128
    Aaron's first 2 summers included swimming in our local "Old Res," just
    a medium size pond (much smaller than Walden), along with other
    infants, and there were no problems. Any public swimming area will be
    monitored for safety and water quality, including Walden.  Aaron swam
    there two summers, two, starting at age 4.  I don't think there is any
    reason to worry.
    
    		- bruce
23.20Pool Water vs. Pond Water & LessonsNRADM::TRIPPLFri Jun 29 1990 20:3528
    I feel the need to add my 2cents worth to this, for several reasons.
    Our son AJ, 3-1/2 yrs will be completing his last week of "parent" and
    me classes at the Y tommorow.  These classes are actually for the 3mo
    to 3 year group, but the staff and we decided it's a good basic place
    to start.  He's done very well, has discarded the swim bar and is not
    even aware of the bubble device he wears, and is swimming
    independantly.  His daycare provider has put all of her charges,
    including AJ, into 3 weeks/each day swim classes as Lake Chauncy in
    Westboro.  As his first week comes to a close I'm hearing things like
    how he want mom or dad in the water with him, he doesn't like his "new"
    teacher, (translated I think he's looking for the Y teacher) or the
    teacher isn't there (same translation) and the daycare provider says
    he's very clingy during class, which is very unlike him.  
    
    He does do well at other outside swim situations, had him in our local
    pond several times last week and several spots on Cape Cod beaches too.
    He puts on a life jacket, Coast Guard type, and off he goes by himself.
    He has had ear tubes in place since November '89, but I only use the
    plugs in a nonpool situation, have had no ear infections so far.  I was
    told indirectly that pool water has so much chlorine that plugs wern't
    necessary, but the microrganisms in outside water make plugs necessary.
    I've also contacted his Ear doctor when the plugs we left out one day,
    he advised putting the antibacterial drops and cotton in his ears
    overnite, if the plugs were ommited during the lake lessons.
    
    Just a thought.....
    
    Lyn Tripp, (AJ's mom)
23.21Any others??MPGS::FIELDThu Jul 26 1990 20:297
    Just this past weekend I took my 11 wk old Katie in the lake with me.
    I held her chest keeping her head above water... placed her in 
    and she did great. She kicked her legs and moved her arms and laughed.
    I did not keep her in long ( not even 5 minutes.) but she appeared to
    enjoy it. I know I did. I can't wait for vacation at the lake in AUG.
    
    Rick 
23.22Swim classes for infants?EMDS::CUNNINGHAMTue Jan 21 1992 15:2919
    
    Does anyone know of any "Parent -n- me", "Waterbabies", or other
    infant/toddler swim classes held around the Leominster area ???
    (Indoor now/outdoor later?)
    
    I'm interested in getting Michael into the water early, and thought it 
    would be something fun to do together.  He is 3 mos.
    
    As it is now, I take him in the bathtub with me for his baths, and I
    get him floating on his back, belly, etc...and he really seems to like
    it. I put his rubber duckie in front of him, hold him by the chest with 
    his face out of the water and his arms and legs go a mile a minute in
    excitment in seeing the duck. He doesn't seem to mind the water on
    his face at all, but I won't ever submerge him until I know he's ready.
    I thought the classes might be educational in what they can and can't 
    handle at his age.
    
    Chris
    
23.23A1VAX::DISMUKEKwik-n-e-z! That's my motto!Tue Jan 21 1992 16:045
    Check with your local Y(M/W)CA.  My sister is doing swim classes with
    her 9-month old here in Nashua.
    
    -sandy
    
23.24WMOIS::BARR_LI'm the mother, that's why!Tue Jan 21 1992 16:143
    The YMCA in Fitchburg won't take children less than 6 months of age.
    
    Lori B.
23.25The YMCA in WorcesterMCIS5::TRIPPTue Jan 21 1992 16:2012
    The YMCA on Main St. Worcester has classes starting for age 6 weeks on
    up to school age.  Arlinda (sorry I don't remember her last name but it
    is hispanic I think) is the director, and at least one assistant is IN
    the water during all classes.  She has to be the most patient caring
    instructor I've ever encountered!
    
    They offer both week day and Satuday classes, classes last one hour for
    aproximately 6 weeks.  And the "kids pool" is kept pretty warm.
    
    Call me if you need to know more 
    
    Lyn
23.26My children did this starting at 6 monthsTANNAY::BETTELSCheryl, Eur. Ext. Res. Prg., DTN 821-4022Wed Jan 22 1992 06:398
I'm afraid of the water myself and didn't want to transfer this fear to my kids
so I sent them with the au paire to classes starting at 6 months.  They now are
like fish in the water.

They don't off the classes here for less than 6 months because of fear of 
infections.

Cheryl
23.27Greendale (Worcester) "Y"CALS::JENSENWed Jan 22 1992 12:0013
I checked into this for Juli and found:

	.  the yearly fee is QUITE high ($400?'ish) -- they justify
		it by offering lots and lots of programs, but few are
		useful for infants/toddlers

	.  the swim programs are mostly offered during "normal working
		hours"  (weekday mornings, early afternoons)

Do give them a call, though ... 

Dottie
23.28Try the Central branch pricesMCIS5::TRIPPWed Jan 22 1992 12:5116
    Dottie-
    
    Try calling the Central Branch of the Y in Worcester.  The swim program
    is offered at one price to members, and another at "potential Members" 
    prices.  I think it's $25 and $30 or $35 respectively.  You DO NOT have
    to belong to take the classes.  By the way, for the infant (up to age
    3) programs one of the parents is in the water at all times with the kiddos.
    
    I have noticed the Greendale prices to be a little more, but it might
    reflect more facilities for the price, who knows?
    
    I maintain a membership at the Main St. Y, I get to work out daily
    frustrations on the Life Circut and Natelus machines.  
    
    Lyn
    
23.29Community Use Program at H.S.TBEARS::JOHNSONWed Jan 22 1992 12:5810
    If you belong to Tufts Health Plan you can go to the
    Y for $3/visit...
    
    Our local high school has a Community Use Program and offers
    swimming classes at their indoor pool (Milford High School).
    I know they have a toddler swim program, not sure if they do
    infants.  Perhaps you could check out the high schools with pools
    in your area.
    
    Linda
23.30worth itGEMVAX::WARRENFri Jan 24 1992 23:428
    At the Greendale Y, your children only need a youth (?--not sure if
    that's what they call it) membership to take the classes.  It's about
    $20-25 a year.  Of course, each session (7 weeks) of classes is another
    $20-25.  Paige has been taking lessons there since she was nine months
    old and she LOVES the water.
    
    -Tracy