Conference moira::naturism

>>    With just one or two exceptions, the most notable being Judy out
>>    in the mid-west, geographical response has been restricted to New
>>    England.
       
Jay,  I thought mid-west is like Iowa or Kansas.  (At least by weather 
forecasters!)  I consider Colorado definitely West.  Colorado is included
in the book "Hot Springs and Pools of the Northwest"!  Most maps of the 
Southwest include Colorado.  I'm not a geography expert so can't say for 
sure...so don't take my word for it! ;-)!

I know of at least 3 Colorado people (this includes myself) that have had 
input in the Naturism notesfile.  I'll let them ID themselves.  Have gotten 
together with one of them and enjoyed a weekend at Valley View.  And the 
other...one of these days we'll meet and enjoy an nude afternoon together...
hopefully soon.

I do know other naturists that work here at CXO, but either don't read or 
respond to this notesfile.  Not everyone feels like coming out of the "closet"
yet!

Judy

    Hi from downunder, I written a note about the CO beaches near Sydney.
    Drop me a note if you're heading this way, and I will see what I can
    arrange.
    
Peter
         

    Hi I'm Jerry Gortmaker and I'm from colorado(which is a geographical
    zone of its own 8^)). I havent entered much here to date but follow
    this file daily I hope to have something to contribute someday but
    for now enjoy reading along. I am single/male and hope someday to
    meet a partner that enjoys a CO lifestyle also. BTW-I'm not into
    this to gawk I do it because I dislike the restricted feeling clothing
    gives me I also hate tan lines.
    
    -j
    

    Hello, I am Paul Gaffney living in Arizona.  I travel to the west
    cost frequently and vist CO areas.  I have contributed here as the
    need comes up and will do so in the future when I have something
    worth while to say.  I know the most about CO places in Az.,NM.,
    Ca.,Co.,and BC. Canada.  Any questions just ask.
    
                                                Paul
    

       I hope I don't get chosen to represent all California nor
    all Californians.  But I am here, in the Santa Clara (Northern
    California-San Francisco Bay Area) portion of DEC.  I do not
    belong to formal nudist activities and don't anticipate it.
    I go nekkid whenever I feel like it and there are various places
    where I can.  I have already responded to a couple of notes here
    and even in DEJAVU (that had to do with being naked along the 
    near-by coast.)
        I encourage everyone to take their clothes off...at least
    as long as it doesn't seem inappropriate to do so.  As much as
    I like nature, nothing is as beautiful to me as the sight as
    a naked body (usually female, but that's my preference.)  So,
    from a bit of a distance, I communicate and encourage.  Incidentally,
    I am in private practice as a massage therapist (nine years as
    a "pro".)
    
    Frederick
    

    HI,
    
    	I think by now everyone knows who I am, from the notes that
    I've entered in the past 4 months.
    
    	I'm Darrell, male, age 25, married (recently), no children,
    2 cats, career oriented, and kind of fall into the category of
    a middle-class DINK (Dual-Income-No-Kids).  I live in a suburb just
    outside of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Sounds like an ad doesn't it ?  
    It's not, just giving a brief overview.
    
    	I've been a naturist for about 5 years.  There really is only
    one public naturist location within an hour's drive from where I
    live, and it isn't legal there any more.  The land is owned by the
    National Capital Commission, and their Park Rangers CAN enforce
    any of the laws the NCC dictates.  Fortunately however, they don't
    seem to bother anyone, as long as the naturists use only a specific
    area of the park, (out of site from cottages around the lake.  Kind
    of funny really, cause you would need a pair of binoculars to see
    the cottages close up, so I really don't know how they can tell
    if there is any nude people across the lake soaking up sun!).  And
    I don't get up there as much as I'd like to, since my new wife is
    not an active naturist (except perhaps in the house on occassion),
    and doesn't like the long hike to get to the naturist spot.  She
    says she doens't mind if I go alone, but she puts me on a guilt
    trip for not spending the time with her.  Oh well, C'est La Vie !
    
    	On vacations, I always make sure that there will be a naturist
    place to visit, close to wherever we are going to stay.  I love
    the freedom from clothing, and the feel of the sun and the wind
    all over my body, makes my skin tingle...mmmmmmm....just thinking
    about it feels good! 
    
    RE: .7 - Fredrick
    
    	We have a lot in common !  I am a massage person on week-ends,
    for a Natural Healing college up here.  Write me sometime.
    
    	Incidentally, anyone interested in a massage while visting this
    area is more than welcome to get in touch with me to set up an appoint-
    ment.
    
    Regards,,
    
    Darrell

    	Colorado again!  I'm not a serious Naturist, but neither
    am I a serious anything! :-)
    
    	Richard

    Another one from Colorado.  I don't have much to say in here usually,
    but I read everything.
    
    Elizabeth
    

    I am a native Californian working in the Western Software Lab in
    Palo Alto.
    
    I am a former member of Lupin, which is probably the least sexist
    naturist organization that I ever visited. (They changed their fee
    structures and it no longer made sense to pay for the few times I
    visited.)
    
    I have a hot tub and am a certified therapeutic massage prctitioner.
    Social nudity does not seem exceptional too me; I don't practice
    it as much as I think I would; I am no longer much of a campaigner. 
    
    I will tend to post something quite infrequently.
    
    PK

    Oh well...when in Rome...
    
    hi y'all...
    
    I'm Ben Wong, a transplanted Canadian, now in Boston.
    I've been a Naturist for about three years now, formerly a member
    of Solair in Connecticut.  While it's not necessarily cheaper, I
    now go to Moonstone in Rhode Island.  Solair is family-oriented
    and more private, but Moonstone is more comfortable when sunbathing alone.
    None of my good friends have gotten psyched enough to try it.

    While I don't talk about Naturism to everyone I know, I'm quite
    comfortable discussing it here.  I'm sure that alot of people that
    I know read this (you're all a bunch of voyeurs! :-)) so they'll
    find out eventually that I'm a Naturist.
    
    This is a pretty decent notesfile; I picked up a few *GOOD* penpals
    here with whom I correspond on a regular basis.  It's kinda nice
    to be able to talk freely about naturism with others.

                          COLO. NATIVE
    Hi, my name is Phil and I've enjoyed reading this file on a daily
bases.
    Both the wife and I use to enjoy going to the Desert Beach Club
in Penrose Colo.the people were great and so were the times.It is no
longer in business.Never made it to Valley View but hope to someday.
    Yes we are very new to naturism and yes it took the two of us a while
before we felt relaxed.
    Keep up the good work and who knows maybe I might come out of the
    closet.
                   

    Well, I don't have much geographical diversity to add, but I'll sign
    in anyway. 
    
    I live in Wilton, NH and work at SpitBrook Road in Nashua.  My wife,
    Lynne, almost-7-year-old daughter, Elspeth, and I have been
    naturists for around three years now, mostly at the Ledges in
    Vermont and our nearest nudist camp, Cedar Waters. 
    
    And of course, the reason my name is so familiar by now :-) is that
    I'm the one who happened to have the system and the inclination to
    start this conference. 
                          
    	-Neil

    I understand that there is a reincarnation of the Desert Beach Club
    outside of Portland Colorado, at a 130 degree hot spring.  I keep
    hearing conflicting reports on it, and haven't been there myself
    (yet).
    
    Elizabeth
    

    I Have been actively reading this conference for a while,
    
    My only experience without clothes were in the wilds of the
    Upper Penisula of Michigan about 30 years ago.  That was not
    often due to bug bites or cold weather, and alone.  My wife
    and I were going to go to a Camp in Karlsruhe, Germany..but did
    not get the nerve up to follow up on it.
    
    I am in North Andover, Mass.
    
    Dave

	Time for another New Englander to check in...

	I've been pretty much read only, though I do put in my
	.02 cents worth when I've got something to say. 

	My name is Marc, and I'm an analyst with the STO Organization
	in Shrewsbury, Mass.

	Have only been "sans garments" outside the home once, and 
	that was in Wells, Maine at the nude "spot." Other than
	that, I'm an indoors practicing nudist. I feel much more
	comfortable without clothes on, but haven't taken the opportunity
	to explore outside the home.

	I'm 24, live in Spencer, and I'm gay. I've heard about the quarries
	in Milford (?) as a spot frequented by other gay nudists....perhaps
	I'll get off my duff and check it out.

	Thanks for creating and moderating this conference, Neil -- I've 
	gotten quite alot out of the information and the conversations
	exchanged within the realms of this notesfile, and I hope to be 
	able to contribute more as time goes on.

	Marc

    As the third moderator, I suppose I should add my own description
    here.
    
    I had my first close brush with naturism when I was 14, at a summer
    camp.  The bunks we had, complete with electricity, hot and cold
    running water, showers, and flush toilets, hardly qualified as anyone's
    idea of "roughing it", except perhaps for all the mothers who couldn't
    understand how there precious kids could live like this.  To give
    us a real taste of camping, we would have one camping trip each
    summer.  This meant hopping in a bus, driving to a state campground,
    pitching our tents, sleeping on the ground, and driving back the
    next day.  The "roughing it" part came when we were forced to eat
    our counselor's cooking, instead of the reasonably tasty meals back
    at the real camp.  
    
    Anyway, this one particular summer there was an extra camp trip, for
    those of us who a) liked the idea; and b) were sufficiently well
    behaved to deserve the treat.  One of the counselors made the mistake
    of admitting he knew of a spot where we could go skinny dipping. My
    memory is flaky at this point, because I don't recall whether a group
    of kids actually went to try and find the spot, with no success, or
    that there just wasn't enough time to go looking.  Either way, there
    was no skinny dipping on that trip.  I was lucky, because at that
    tender age, and having grown up in the wilds of New York City, I didn't
    have the foggiest idea of what the term "skinny dipping" meant.  Had I
    known, and actually gone to such a spot, I no doubt would have sat
    bored, lonely, embarrassed, and fully clothed on shore, as I was still
    too young to appreciate the finer things in life.  Who knows, the
    entire experience might have been so traumatic, that I could have wound
    up being one of those people who wears a swimsuit to take a shower.
    I'm glad nothing came of that misadventure, but I now regret not
    having gone to a Quaker camp.
    
    As I grew older, I became more open minded, but lacked opportunity.
    I was finally able to see, and be seen by, the great outdoors during
    my senior year in college.  A group of us had arranged for a picnic
    at a secluded lake and conservation area owned by the university.
    It was a mild spring day, but not quite warm enough to anticipate
    swimming, so few of us were prepared.  It took an unusal event to
    get anyone in the water.  
    
    A few of my friends successfully liberated a row boat from the dock,
    and managed to row it to the other side of the lake.  I was not on
    board.  At this point, one of the passengers in the boat decided to
    show the others what four years of being on the crew team had taught
    him about propelling boats in water.  He proceeded to take over the
    rowing of the boat by himself, and with a few mighty strokes of the
    oars greatly impressed the other passengers by snapping one of the oars
    in two.  Now row boats are not canoes, and oars are not paddles.
    You cannot effectively move a row boat with just one oar.  The
    occupants of the boat, being on the verge of completing an extremely
    expensive Ivy League education, started out ignorant of this fact
    and foolishly neglected to take a spare oar.  Sexist gallantry won
    out, so that the three male occupants stripped to their skin, jumped
    into the water, and swam the boat ashore.  The lone female, whose
    hair was both long enough and blond enough to do a Lady Godiva
    imitation, decided that discretion was the better part of staying
    warm and rested, and so remained clothed in the boat.  
    
    It was only as they got close to shore that those of us who had
    remained safely on dry land realized that people were actually
    swimming, and that the lack of swimsuits was no obstacle.  Not having
    been in on the whole story yet, we mistakenly assumed that they
    were having fun, and so a few of us, too, stripped to our skin,
    and joined them.  And yes, it was fun for us, especially when the
    dean of the residential college passed by and tried to guess what
    we were wearing below the water level.  
    
    As I recall, the muscular crew member who was the cause of this
    event decided to remain in the water awhile, too.  Whether he did
    it because he honestly liked skinny dipping, or just to prove to
    the others that the water really was perfectly comfortable, or to
    protect his exposed and somewhat vulnerable skin from being bruised
    in embarrassing places by the other two unwilling swimmers who stood
    exhausted on shore, is an open question.
    
    This was my introduction to skinny dipping.
    
    Anyway, other than this one lake trip, my skinny dipping has been
    limited to mountain streams.  I like being out in the woods, seeing
    few people, and swimming in cool, clear water.  Though I've been
    to the Ledges once, it was, as luck would have it, a day too cool
    to expose myself.  Still, I look forward to the day that I can visit
    a more open, less secluded, nudist or naturist site.  I really must
    get to Moonstone one of these years, seeing how my brother lives
    in the same town.
    
       Gary

    
    ...I'm another New Englander.
       
    CQ

    ...and yet another...
    
    I'm John Francini, and I work in MRO.  My wife and I have been to
    Moonstone two or three times in the past few years.  I really enjoy
    being nude, but unfortunately the opportunity doesn't come our way
    that often, especially with Moonstone being a 2+ hour drive.
    
    Perhaps some day we'll move to some other area of the country where
    opportunities for nuding are more plentiful/closer.
    

    hi, jim close form massachusetts..  sorry to say the only co beach
    left is on the island of marthas vineyard. i get there at least
    once per summer but becasue of the limited number of ferrys to 
    and from i find myself stranded on the mainland more than i want
    bummer........
    ]
    
    jim

    John Williams from Waltham, here. I've been to the ledges and to
    Martha's Vineyard, many times. The hardest part about Nudism is
    the tendency for people who have never tried it to call it sexual,
    as if all of life were not. I wish people would loosen up a little
    and enjoy themselves and others. I am saddened at the lack of naturist
    spots in the area. I would like to see moonstone next summer.
    
    A bathing suit is just a pain. It doesn't hide much of anything
    and interferes with everything. I hope people gain the sense to
    take back what's rightfully theirs, and realize there's something
    wrong if you DON'T have feelings.
    						John.

    
    	I've been lurking about on the side lines here for awhile, so
    might as well throw in my 32 bits worth. Just to prove there is
    life west of the Berkshires.
    
    	I'm in field sevice in south Los angeles. I've been to a few
    of the beaches in California, but would hardly consider myself
    an active nudist. Single males don't seem to be overly welcome
    at most beaches, and the subject doesn't often come up with any
    of my lady friends.
    
    	I did have one intresting experience this past summer. I was
    up in the San Louis Obispo area, duing my two weeks with the U.S.
    Army, some of the younger troops wanted to go down to the local
    nude beach to gawk and drink beer. Being the only one with my own
    car (good old DEC-wagon) I got elected to drive. 
    
    	Well, the old sarge wasn't going all that way on a hot day and
    not go swimming, so I moved on down the beach a ways, got into
    proper uniform for the ocasion, and dove in.
    
    	The youngsters still haven't figured out why I was the only
    one invited to the party going on 50 feet down the beach.

Hello Fellow Digits,
    
	I'm a naturist and so's my wife.
    	We're based in the UK (South) - I can recommend some good
    	clubs etc. for anyone that's interested (in Hampshire).
    	I'm at Fareham at the moment, but I'm leaving in Nov '88.
    	I'm also a contractor.
        It's hard being a naturist in the UK - not enough sunshine !!

Peter F. Gray
(aka Piatski)

I usually read my notes from batch, but since I'm here now, I'll sign
in.  I live in Lyndeboro, NH, and work in Nashua at Spit Brook.  I've
been frequenting naturist areas for the last 2 summers, but I've always
preferred being nude. (I thought you could only do it when no one's
looking! :-)  I've never been to a nudist resort (except for a quick tour
of Cedar Waters once), spending my time instead at the Ledges in Vermont
or at local swimming holes.

I got started when some friends dropped by and suggested a trip to the
Ledges.  We went, had a great time, and this past summer I was there
pert near every weekend!

I'd also like to thank Neil for a fine conference, and I hope it keeps
up for a long time!

Carl

CHEKING IN. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME INFO FOR THE N.M. AREA.
    JUST RECENTLY MOVED HERE AND HAVEN'T FOUND A PLACE FOR C/O ACTIVITIES.
    ANY INFO WOULD BE APRECCIATED.THANKS.
    
                                     A.T.
    

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    Hi all you skinny-dippers, nudists and naturalists,
    	Well I just found this note conference and felt obligated to
    add my name to the roster.  It's been interesting reading.  I've
    wondered, on my various visits back to Mother DEC (when i've
    had time to wonder anything..i'm usually pressed for time it seems)
    where one would go to enjoy a nice nude hottub or swim.  I've been
    a nakedist/whatever for at least 15yrs.  I started on this decatent
    path at a place called Getting In Touch where we had bazaar parties
    of body painting on Holloween, massage orgies (multiple
    hands pouring lovingly over well oiled bodies..strictly non-sexual
    but very sensual and tripy for the recipient) and classes which
    dealt with all matters of human hangups and just plain fun.  It was a 
    singularly unique place where psychologists, engineers, carpenters,
    nurses, kids of all walks, you name it, all were welcome and
    participated in a very caring environment.  I have been a member
    of Lupin, a resort in the Santa Cruz Mountains (Calif), for approx.
    5 yrs.  and it is equally a very delightful place to relax with
    clothing optional all year round.  For anyone coming to this area
    feel free to get in touch with me and i'll try to set up a time
    to show you around and if that is not possible i can at least send
    you their newsletter which will have enough info. for you to get
    in contact with them.  Since i have not completly read this conference
    this info may already be available?  Anyway, I will certainly visit
    this conference from time to time and add what I can.
    rick  
    

	Hi all,

	Well, I'm a frequent reader but infrequent contributer.  Unfortunately,
	I haven't been able to experience any *real* naturism, although I do
	enjoy being nude when possible.  I also was took photography as a 
	minor in college (recent grad) and did a lot of work with nudes, both
	self-portraits and with male and female models.  I loved it!

	I live in Waltham, and these Boston swims sound interesting, but they
	have always been past tense by the time I opened this file.  Maybe I'll	
	be able to make the January 21st one.  I'll try to keep my eye open,
	but I have to admit that being a SMWOFA (Single Male w/o Female 
	Accompanyment) has got me a little nervous about going without knowing
	anyone (aside from all of you that is ;->).

Mike Richard in CXO.  Just rejoined Valley View this year after a 7 year
absence.  Still can't figure out why I quit - musta been religion or something.

My wife Judy and I plan to take our two preschool boys down to VV at least 4
times a year.  They have already been twice since last summer.  I find the
place to be the most relaxing I can think of.  It's very easy to forget that
one has a real life while in one of the pools there.  Glad to see some other
CXO'ers here.

/Mike

    Jim Murray - Reading UK - trying to redress the balance between
    Old and New England but its an uphill struggle. - Contracting for
    Dec on and off for the last 10 yrs. They call me a s/w engineer
    - I think that means programmer.
    
    Anyway I've been nuding for about 4 yrs - just 'cos I like it and
    unfortunately I adopt an almost evangelical attitude to it and extol
    its virtues to anyone rash enough to mention anything even remotely
    connected. My wife doesnt think too much of it but she does swim nude
    on holiday - but then again she's consistent - she'd rather wear
    regular clothes than beach wear.
    
    I've got 3 kids (boys). The oldest one's just going through puberty
    and thinks naturism is the daftest thing since boiled cabbage. The
    other two ( 11 & 8 ) were also highly sceptical until I took them
    along to a club. Previously they would always change beheind towels
    even on foreign nudist beaches but this particular club was great
    - an old mansion house with sprawling grounds and little dells and
    glades and now they are converted "Dad when are we going to join
    Diogenes" ( Diogenes is the club).
    
    I know no other naturists and since XYL is not interested I can't
    actually join any clubs. But I rarely if ever wear clothes once I'm
    home - winter or summer. The neighbours I think are fairly laid back
    about it which is fortunate since the gardens are not at all private.
    
    Nuding at home did pose a problem at first since our house is fairly
    open - I.e. multitude of visitors - in-laws etc. I used to cover
    up at first but it got too much of a hassle so my rule now is:-
    If I invite someone then I cover up. Certain other people - old
    ladies , young kids etc, the same. But for anyone who feels happy
    just to drop in then WYSIWYG. - haven't noticed any mass exodus
    of friends/relatives etc. - wonder if this could be the subject
    of another note?
    
    Jim

    Well, I guess it's about time for me to sign in - since I've been
    reading this file regularly (sort of) since last summer.
    
    My name is Kathryn, I work in Nashua at TTB and I'm a Graphic Designer.
    At home, I'm married (since last fall), have a 7-year-old step-son,
    two cats, and my first child is expected to arrive this coming fall.
    
    I've enjoyed going to nude beaches and other outdoor nude activities
    for about the last ten years or so, and recently (last summer) got
    my husband used to the idea.  He loved his first experience at
    Moonstone - although we don't bring his son along.  I don't think
    he'd ever be ready for naturism since he feels it necessary to close
    and lock his bedroom door just to change his shirt!  Maybe it's
    just because he's only seven and hasn't been brought up in the type
    of environment I intend to raise my own child in.  Also, I think
    his mother would probably have us killed if we brought him to Moonstone
    with us.  You know how some people think...
    
    At any rate, I'm sure glad to have found this conference.  I thoroughly
    enjoy all of the conversation.  Thanks Neil!
    
    - KM

    
    Hi, I'm Ian Philpott, universally known as "The Colonel", though
    I have signed into so many conferences over the years, I won't bore
    you all with an explanation.
    
    Until recently I was in New England, and have now re-re-located
    back to England. To complete the family picture I have been married
    two years (nearly) to a delightful Thai woman, who prefers to be
    known by her baptismal name of Ann. We don't have any children yet.
    
    I had a first experience of naturism that should perhaps go in the
    first experiences note but I'll put it here... I'm perverse, in
    at least that sense you see. When I was sixteen I was beginning
    to get serious with a girl of my own age that I had known for several
    years. Being quite formal I asked her parents for permission to
    court her. Then they dropped the bombshell: they, like me, were
    of Gaelic extraction. They had apparently maintained a very old
    gaelic tradition that is still occasionally encountered on the Atlantic
    fringes of Ireland and in the Hebredes off Scotland: they believed
    that before a couple became engaged, or "went steady" they should
    see each other nude. They would only agree to my going steady with
    their daughter if I agreed to this. Now my reactions were to say
    the least mixed: to this point I had gone no further than holding
    hands and stealing a kiss on the cheek - and now her parents were
    demanding that I inspect her naked body! and let her inspect mine!
    with them present acting as chaperones! It took a lot of soul searching
    I tell you but I agreed. (Incidentally this has many purposes -
    it is meant as a test of nerve for the couple - it also avoids problems
    later if when you see each other nude for the first time you find
    the fires of love[/lust] dying rapidly). The day came and the ceremony
    was duly performed. (for the read-only gawkers - the rest is in
    your imaginations I'm afraid - it was really rather chaste). After
    that I was invited to holiday with the family at their cottage,
    and that was my first real period of naturism, for none of us wore
    clothes from the time we arrived, till we left three weeks later.
    After that I joined a naturist club with the young lady, and went
    regularly. Incidentally that relationship didn't last a great deal
    longer, but then I was only young and so was she.
    
    After that I joined a club with my then female companion. As I have
    said elsewhere when that relationship broke up I was summarily ejected
    from membership because I was now that most heinous of beasts, a
    single man! I haven't had more than a casual contact with the world
    of naturism since, though recently have found myself becoming
    interested in renewing the contacts.
    
    For those who know me from Deja Vu it is worth saying that I came
    into an interest in the Old Religion through that early relationship
    - it has little place in this file, though I have one observation
    based on it that I will start a topic with - but it is worth saying
    that for thousands of years the adherents of the Old Religion -
    call it Wic'ca if you like - have communed with their Gods and with
    nature whilst in the nude. I often wonder if a lot of the modern
    puritanical objection to naturism is in fact based not on real morality
    issues, the interpretation of the Bible or anything else, but is
    in reality a memory of the days when society tried to suppress Wic'ca
    and all it stood for at any costs.
                
    /. Ian .\

    Participants (and readers) are invited to introduce themselves
    here.  It's always nice knowing something about your fellow noters
    in a conference as you read their notes.
    
    If you're a naturist already, you might want to say a little about
    how you came to naturism.  If you aren't, you might want to say
    something about what brought you to this conference.
                                
    By the way, these notes have been moved from the middle of the
    conference,  where the original topic was dedicated to discovering
    the geographical distribution of our participants, so for the
    sake of tradition, you might like to mention what part of the
    world you're in.
    
    	-Neil Faiman, moderator

    I started with Digital in a field service group in Maryland in 1976.
    I transferred to an internal field service group supporting
    manufacturing in Colorado Springs in 1977.  I am now a project
    specialist in the IN-DEC WEST F/S group in Colorado Springs.  I
    celebrate my 21st wedding anniversary on 24-AUG-89.  The oldest
    of my three children, my only son, graduates from high school this 
    June.  I just started reading the NATURISM notes file a couple weeks
    ago and find it enlightening.  My major contribution so far is note
    #162.  Neither me or my family have really experienced nudism yet.  

    Hi there!
    
    I stumbled over this conference, and liked it. For the past 12 years
    I have been a naturist, vacationing in Yugoslavia and Lake Constanze.
    Reading through the conference I noticed that hardly ever a contribu-
    tion comes from Europe. I don't know a single person within DIGITAL
    with whom to share this common interest. 
    
    When in the U.S. next time and weather permitting, I might get in
    touch with you.
    
    I am a double citizen (US and Swiss) living in the Zurich area.
    Married, 3 sons, 1 daughter. Age 54.
    
    This summer I will be at the Dalmatian coast in July for 3 weeks. 
    Seemless suntan guaranteed! NO INSECTS!!! Food and wine heavenly. 
    Male/Female ratio about 50:50, if not slightly more females. Water 
    temperature 74-79. Cost of living: You wouldn't believe it, think 
    little and it's less. A Dollar tip and within an hour every hotel
    employee knows and bends over backwards.
    
    Anybody else heading that way?
    
    Ted
    
    
    
                                                     
    
    
    

      Re : .36

>>  Reading through the conference I noticed that hardly ever a contribu-
>>  tion comes from Europe. I don't know a single person within DIGITAL
>>  with whom to share this common interest. 

    Ted,

    I'm here, I'm here, I'm here!!!  I thought *I* was the only one!!


    8*)

    Lillian_who_isn't_@zuo_but_i'm_close_enough_@geo

    

Jim Henderson here. Been a read only noter for about 8 or 9 months. Have
always enjoyed being nude but circumstances prevented any public nuding until
recently. Changes in my marital status provided an opportunity. 

This past weekend I went "public" for the first time at the Ledges. Enjoyed
it immensely and look forward to the next opportunity.

The information and discussions shared in this conference and advice from
some of the folks in here were encouraging and I found my first time went
off with out a hitch as a result. I look forward to participating in future
group gatherings.


I presently work in the DAS facility in Andover.

    I didn't realize that I hadn't posted anything in here before, so here
    goes...
    
    My name is Kevin Herbert. I've followed this conference for about 2
    years. I live in Southern NH, and work in Littleton, MA. I'm a
    principal software engineer with the Distributed Systems Architecture
    and Advanced Development group (those people that bring you the DECnet
    architecture). I am a member of the Wide Area Networking Advanced
    Development group.
    
    I've visited a variety of places, including an old mine shaft in
    Colorado and the resort Hedinism II in Jamaica, and like to get to the
    Ledges when I can during the summer. I haven't been to Moonstone yet;
    schedule conflicts kept me from the last one, but I'm going to try to
    make one of the trips.
    
    Kevin

    And here's the third! 
    
    H E L L O    T E D   AND   L I L L I A N!
    
    
    STEFAN

    My name is Melanie and I'm a transplant from down south. Actually,
    I've been in Massachusetts for 10 years now, so I guess I don't 
    qualify as a 'southern bell' any longer (Not that I ever did...)
    In any case, I've enjoyed CO on a limited basis for the past
    couple years on the Vineyard, and spent my last vacation 
    sunning excusively so at Gay Head.   
    
    Since I'm new to this conference, I have a question ... where can
    I go for sunning in this area. I'm specifically interested in going
    somewhere for my b'day in 2 weeks, so any suggestions would be GREAT!
    
    -mlo-  (aka Melanie O'Leary)       

Time to enter an introduction. My name is Dan Penny, and I work in Syst. Mfg. 
Eng'ng. in Kanata, Canada. (KAO).

My wife and I are naturists at home only so far. We own 43 acres out in the 
country south west of Ottawa, Ontario. Kanata is directly west of Ottawa.

We have been searching for some good spots to go swimming and enjoying the sun 
outside of our property, but with little luck so far. I have contacted Darrell 
Bigelow (you've "seen" him in this conference, he works in the next building) 
for some spots, however for first timers, they seem not quite right. We would 
like to "initiate" ourselves (for social naturism) in an area/spot where there
are only maybe 20 : 30 others, and we could have our own "private" space on
the beach, while still being in a group atmosphere. (If you know what I mean).

We have two children, Michael - age 7, and Nebraska - age 4. Michael is 
starting to follow our "lead" around the house, and is looking forward to nude 
swimming/beaching. (It's a daring/fun thing to him at this stage). Nebraska 
however, is not too keen on being nude. She's comfortable with us being that 
way, but she isn't with herself yet.

That's about it for now. I have only one reply in here so far (Judy News) 
other than this, but you'll see more now.

    
(Well Darrell, I finally entered the conference "officially".  ;-)
    

    
    
     Hi,
    
     Paul here,  .. another New Englander,  (metro west to be more 
     specific)
    
     So far, I haven't found any place I like more than "the cliffs"
     (or Long Beach) on Martha's Vineyard.
    
     My girlfriend and I spent a week there last year, and loved every
     minute if it!   We plan to go back every year.
    
     I strongly suggest Long Beach to anyone who hasn't tried it yet,
     its not only a gorgeous beach, and interesting (people who play
     in the clay are very interesting) but also a beautiful island 
     to enjoy for a vacation.
    
     Well, hope to see some of you there next year, .. I'd like to 
     hear from you if you'll be there!!
     
     Ciao - 
     Paul

    I've been following this conference for about a year and a a half, and
    am finally getting around to putting in my official introduction note. 
    I live in Hollis, NH and work in Database Systems in Nashua (TTB).  
    
    My husband and I have been involved with CO activities for about 4 years. 
    (He was initially interested, and spent quite some time talking me into
    it, which has worked out just great!).  Our first formal activity was
    the Saturday night NENA swim parties down on the south shore.  We go
    to Moonstone as often as we can get ourselves psyched for the long drive
    (which unfortunately, isn't all that often recently) and have been
    to Club Orient twice (planning another trip in February!).
    
    During an extended leave of absense in 1987, we travelled extensively
    in western U.S. and Canada, and made it a point to visit as many ASA
    clubs, beaches and hot springs as we could, as well as seeking out
    secluded places in the national parks where we created our own sites!
    (references supplied on request :-))  We noticed that the general
    attitude toward naturism, etc. is much looser and more accepting on
    the west coast than it is around here.
    
    We're expecting our first baby in 2 weeks, and as you can tell from my
    note in "Children and Naturism" have some apprehensions about what, if
    anything, the "new addition" will have on our lifestyle!
    
    Deb

Bringing the number of Europeans to five, (I think) it's time I introduced 
myself.

Ian James, working on contract to Digital at Solent Business Park, Hampshire, 
England, UK.  I live 50 miles away, so most of my naturism is done at our 
local beach at Portslade.

My wife Jan is a naturist too, although she is still secretive with our 
non-naturist friends and relatives.  Two sons, Peter (8) and Oliver (2).

Hello all you DEC Naturists! My name is John Reid an I too am a Naturist!
    I am also a member of the New England Naturist Association N.E.N.A.
    With in N.E.N.A. I am the SIG leader for the Bare Back Packing sig
    which I started in Feburary 1987. I do three bare back packing trips
    a season June July and August. I have tents to accomodate a crew
    of 14 people and set up each trip to accomodate the experience level
    of the people joining me. I publish my own news letter and place
    articles in the NENA news letter. I can be reached on
    USWAV1::REID or John Reid @OFO if any one is intrested in joining
    me on a trip. Now that I have had a notes course from my wife I
    hope I can reach out to other DEC naturists and get more people
    using the White mountains of New Hampshire in naturist activities.
    
    A word on NENA it is a family organization also dedicated to the
    enhancment of the naturist life style and is made up of members
    in all the New England states.
    See you on the Trail!
    
    P.S. I also have placed articles in CWS and the EVENT about my back
    packing in the White Mountains. Watch for them in the near future.

    I realized that I have never put an introduction in here for us, so
    here goes.
    
    My wife Pat and I are both Naturists, leaning more towards finding
    places to enjoy the sun sans clothes. We recently moved from New
    England where we visted Cedar Waters (in New Hampshire, highly
    recommended) to Colorado Springs. We both work in CXO3 in customer
    support positions.
    
    We currently belong to The Naturists Society. We will be looking into
    areas here in Colorado and the vicinity for places to enjoy the sun.
    Indeed, we are looking into designing a privacy structure on our deck
    at home to be able to enjoy the sunshine here in the Springs in the
    summer.
    
    		Dave L.

    Hi Y'all,

    I'm John Donnelly (alias: JD), a transplanted Southern Californian,
    via Boston, now in Dallas.  I've been a naturist for the past 6 years.
    I have frequented Moonstone Beach just about every weekend during the
    summer, a friend of mine, rents a place at Roy Carpenter's for the 
    whole summer.  I've gotten both he and his wife involved.  I will
    miss Moonstone.  

    I'm planning a trip to Hippy Hollow with some friend here in Dallas
    over the Memorial Day weekend.  I've been sunbathing on my deck for 
    the past 2 weekends.  

    If anyone is ever in the Dallas area.  Please stop by and look me
    up.

    JD

    I have re-entered this note since my node has changed and the new
    VTX ELF refuses to list folks on disability.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    I guess it's about time I signed in.

    My family and I have been nudist (social) since 1980 when we
    first joined Dyer Woods. Prior to that we were household nudists
    but never with others.

    We arrived at Dyer Woods in a strange way, we were avid campers
    (ok tent trailer at the time) and were looking for a seasonal
    site in a rustic campground. One afternoon, while campground
    hunting, I stopped at a rest area on I295 in RI and picked up a
    a campground listing published by the state.

    Later I read the description to my wife and, much to my surprise,
    she said that she would try anything ONCE. Well, we went down
    one day early in April and found a rustic campground and the
    nicest bunch of folks we had ever met camping. I took my clothes
    off right away and my kids (two boys) asked if they could too!
    It took my wife about 15 min to join in.

    We were invited to stay for dinner and ended up taking a site
    that day!

    Today my boys are 15 and 12 and enjoy going with us. My 15 year
    old found a girlfriend there so it isn't hard to get him to go,
    even though 15 year olds often don't want to go camping with mom
    and dad (any kind of campground)

    We are still active members (my wife is on the board) and we
    have worked up to a 32 foot trailer which is really a summer
    home.

    we are woodland nudists, not often going to beaches. I am
    permanently disabled but DEC has been nice to me, I still have by
    badge and computer account which helps keep my sanity.

    Great notes file!

    - gerry
        

    
    I'm newly relocated from Santa Clara CA to Colorado Springs.
    Must say that I love the 'Springs, but do miss the beaches.
    I've been a naturist for as long I can remember- but have not
    yet joined a formal organization. It was my experience in Calif.
    that most formal groups whom I contacted were reluctant to welcome
    single males- and my S/O was not interested at the time in
    participating. Perhaps I'll find that this is not the case in
    my newly adopted state. 
    
    The people I met at the beaches and other informal naturist gatherings 
    were some of the nicest I've known, and I fully expect to find that
    true of here as well. It's long been my belief that people often shed
    their differences along with their clothes- it's one great social
    equilizer!
    
    I look forward to reading this notesfile, making new friends, and 
    finding new places to enjoy the naturist lifestyle.
    
    Kevin
    

Hi. My name is Jeff Lanka, and I haven't seen anyone from the NY metropolitan 
area, yet.  I joined DEC a month ago, and have been a naturist for 12 years.  I 
grew up and still live on Long Island (NY).  Fire Island has some great 
naturist beaches, among them Robert Moses, The National seashore east of Point-
O-Woods, Davis Park (my first), and my now favorite, Smiths Point.  At Smiths 
Point, Tri-State-Metro Naturists usually come down on National Nude weekend.

Recently (back in March) I visited my first Nudist resort, in Florida called 
Sunsport Gardens.  It was really great!  It was one of the few I contacted, 
that accepted singles.  And to think - some people live there all year round.

I hope to hear from any NY Met. area naturists, and to someday attend a 
gathering.  For now, happy sunning!

    I am Philip from Holland, 43 , married, with 2 kids. Nudism is quite popular over here, and there
    are several camps and beaches alongside the Northsea where nudism is
    permitted. Yes, Holland is a tolerant country with regards to other
    people's behavior.
    In summertime we (wife + two kids) go usually to France, where there
    are many possibilities for naturism.
    For instance, the Isle of Corsica is a paradise for our kind... Very
    much recommended!
    
    Anyone else from nearby to share experiences?
    
    Philip

         I discovered the Naturism notesfile while it was broken.  Now that
    it has been repaired, I can now throw in the big intro for myself and
    the wife. We are both Naturists, even though we do not belong to any
    formal Naturism group. We always enjoyed frequenting places like Blacks
    Beach in La Jolla, Ca and Hippie Hollow in Austin, Tx. Thanks to
    Jerry (the Maker of Gort), we discovered Desert Reef Beach Club south
    of Colorado Springs (where we presently reside). Plan to try to get
    down to Valley View before summer is over.
    
         Both of us are very UNinhibited, but Cindy was usually nervous
    about going in the BUFF for the first time at a new place, which was
    the case for our first visit to the DRBC. This, of course, did not last
    long. In fact, the following week, she was asking when we were going to
    return, which was the following week-end.
    
         Well, I'm not much into very long notes. We're looking forward to
    meeting and knowing more Naturism type people.
    
    
    
                                    Greg (a.k.a. Tex)

    I just happened upon this conference and am glad to see that there
    are some resources in Digital for getting information.
    
    Depending upon how you look at it, I either am not yet a naturist,
    having never experienced social nudity, or have been one since I was
    very small.  
    
    I've always had dreams and a longing to walk in the sun without clothing, 
    but, except for one summer night during my high school years in the woods 
    behind my house, I've never nuded outside my home.  (The mosquitos were 
    vicious and it was a trifle cool - brr)  During high school I used to take 
    my clothes off as soon as I got home sometimes, as my parents both worked.
    
    Since then, I hadn't nuded much. Becoming a Christian and facing 
    groupthink in the churches had a lot to do with that.  The influence
    of the church (but not of God) has less of a hold on me now, leaving
    me freer to do pleasant, harmless things that I really like to do.
    
    A few months ago, I read a novel by John Ball which was set in an ASA 
    resort in California (see, John Ball is still having an effect) and was 
    excited to find that there were people who felt constricted by the 
    necessity of clothes and the close association of nudity with sex, and 
    that these people were (a) organized and (b) open, but not "recruiting".  
    Since then, I have been dressing less around the house, and have been 
    privately wondering about where people go and whether I would have the 
    nerve to join them.
    
    This notes conference and the newsgroup are a godsend to me. Practical
    discussions about things like sunblock and insect repellent as well as
    reasonably up-to-date site information make it so much easier to get
    started.  
    
    I live in Nashua, NH with my wife and 3-going-on-4 year old son, and
    work at Spit Brook Road.  Lorraine doesn't share my interest (yet :-))
    but is willing to go with me if she can stay clothed.  Eddy, of course,
    is altogether comfortable in the altogether.
    
    I am about 100 lb. over my ideal weight, all of it gained after my
    Christian experience became dominated by groupthink, about 3 years
    into college. (Too bad - I'd had 4 years of healthy, balanced faith
    with a charismatic prayer group before that.)  I'm finding that the 
    good feelings about myself engendered by nuding around the house at 
    night are starting to affect my eating habits. I'm even starting to
    take an interest in exercise.  I may get back below 200 yet.
    
    See, even budding naturists can be boring :-).  (If I talk too much,
    just tell me to shut up. I can take a hint... :-) )
    
    							Ralph
    
    P.S. Nashua Public Library has a decent collection of John Ball novels. 
         They don't have any non-fiction on the subject of naturism (as far 
         as I can tell) except for a reference work giving the location of 
         a handful of libraries (mostly private) with special collections on 
         nudism or the beaches movement.  If there isn't a topic about 
         naturist information in libraries, I may start one.
    

    Been reading this file for a while but forgot to introduce myself.
    I was born many years ago in Holland but since 1962 I am an Australian
    living in what is called the Golden West. (Perth W.A.)
    I was born nude and since then have been going around nude as often
    as was possible. My strong believe is that the body was not created
    for clothing and the modern clothing is not designed with the natural
    biological functioning of the body in mind. I am also a believing
    Christian and find that this does not have to be a objection to
    nudety. When I was a Young lad I found there was a lot more sexual
    activety in the Church Youth groups then at the Nudist Clubs (C/O
    beaches werent much around then).
    regards, Jan
    

    I am new to both DEC and the Naturism conference.  I am not new to
    naturism, however.  Finding this conference has been very exciting for
    me since my opportunities for social nudism have been extremely limited
    over the years.
    
    Club Med, Guadaloupe was my first, and really only experience of social
    nudism, back in 1979.  Since then, while I go about in the buff at home
    to the extent possible, social nudism has been unavailable to me.  My
    wife, who doesn't care to participate, doesn't mind my interest,
    however.  That isn't to say that my interest in nudism is merely
    tolerated, only that she doesn't care to join in.  Our two little
    girls, aged 7 and 3, seem to be natural nudists (as I suppose all
    children are).
    
    Anyway, my basic point of view on all this is that most people don't
    seem to be able to differentiate nudism from sexual contexts, and that
    is a real shame.  Perhaps that is just a symptom of American sexual
    repression.  Americans seem to be very preoccupied with sex because
    they are repressed.  If we all went around in the nude together, I
    think the sexual 'edge' of things would be smoothed down.  I suppose
    what I am trying to say is that in these times, a fascination with sex
    because the naked human body should allegedly stay hidden can be very
    dangerous.  Maybe I should open a topic on the subject?
    
    Needless to say, I am very glad the conference is here (thank you
    Neil!), and look forward to discussions, and outings when possible with
    those of you in the Northeast.
    
    - Steve
                                            

	Well, I've been reading around in here off and on for the last
	few months, so I thought I might as well quit being a voyeur
	and introduce myself.

	I'm Kathy Gallup, 25, single, and hate clothes.  Well, if I have
	to wear clothes, I'll wear 'em, but I'm MUCH more comfortable
	if I never have to have them on.  I wear clothes around others
	for their comfort, but when I'm alone my clothes are usually
	stripped off.  There's nothing better than sleeping in the
	nude (unless of course you're cuddling someone else!) and I
	usually wear loose clothing because I hate bras and undies--My
	body was not made to be bound and gagged! 8-)


	I've never participated much in social nudity.  In fact, this
	summer at the Ledges was perhaps my first real nude setting
	(where people actually go somewhere to be nude).  I'm sure
	next summer will include many jaunts up that way as well as
	down to Gay Head on the Vineyard.  I don't have a lot of spare
	time to participate in this conference, but I will be reading.

	kath

re.58
Hi Kath we seem to meet in the strangest places....
Welcome to Naturism!

-jerry

    I'm Dave Goss.  Longtime naturist, but focusing more on being
    an active participant.  Have the ASA application sitting on my desk.

    Enjoyed the Ledges and Gay Head this year.  I am single, but have
    several male/female friends who are also naturists, so don't travel
    alone.  I'm 24.

    I hope to participate more in this notefile in the coming years, and
    look forward to meeting you all.

        -- Dave

	Hi Jerry!


	Dave, succumbing to peer pressure?!?! 8-)



	k

    So Kath, when are ya going to be BACK in Colorado for a visit? 
    
    -dean

    Hi, I am Vickie and have been reading this file for quite some time
    and decided I should finally sign in.  My husband and I have been
    into naturism for about 2 years now. We live in central North Carolina.
    We enjoy going to the a nudist resort here in North Carolina, and 
    really enjoy the Outer Banks, but do not enjoy being hassled by
    the rangers.  We do hope to be able to go to other places in the
    future, but we do stay busy with three kids 7,9, and 11. I am mostly a
    read-only, but will reply if I have anything worth saying I will do so.
    Neil, and other moderators, thanks for this notes file.
    Vickie

    
    
    Hi, 
    
    I haven't been to a 'legal' nude or CO beach yet. Most of my nude
    activity occurs around the house/yard. I have done some nude
    tanning/swimming at the local river near my house at secluded spots.
    My wife isn't too into social nuding, but I don't think she'd have any
    problem with CO areas. 
    
    Been trying to promote more exposure on the beaches this past year and
    am certainly looking forward to the coming summer.
    
    ed
    

  Hi,

  I have never been to a nude beach/club/camp but I have always felt
strange in clothes. I've been sleeping in the nude since the age of ten.
I don't like the restrictive feel of clothes and am always uncomfortable
when wearing them. In fact the first thing I do when I get home from work
is to strip down, hence my interest in naturism. 

  As a child growing up, coming from a Baptist family public nudity was 
frowned upon, but at home amongst the family it was no big deal, a slightly
hypocrisy IMO. Nudity on T.V. and in movies offended my mother, my father
could care less. My mother always felt the female body was ugly. One thing 
I was always taught was that spiritually you had free will, so as I got older
I had my own interpitations from the bible. I also felt free to discuss opinions
with my mother, one issue was nudity. I would say that if God is perfect how or
why would the human body be imperfect, and adam and eve did not hide their 
bodies because God told them to, but because in their eyes it was wrong. 
So hangups have been around for a long time 8-). I would also say that it's
not the nudity that is "sinful" but your thoughts brought on by nudity, ergo,
nudity is not sexual, your THOUGHTS are.

  I won't dwell on religous ideas, because not everyone has the same ideas, so
I won't. My wife is not as "free" as I am about nudity because when she was 
at home nudity, even amongst the family it was frowned upon. As my son gets 
older (he's 17 months) I've tended to be more careful around the house. But
I will not allow him t grow up beleive that nudity is wrong. I feel that
alot of the sexual criminals become so through repression of sexuality and 
a ideology that nudity is shameful and wrong. Mystery is what drives lust IMO.

Enough rambling, 

Shawn

    
    Hi!  I'm Dave Dawson.....so where's the applause?  For most of my life
    I have *HATED* wearing clothes but finding a place (outside your
    bedroom) has been kinda tough.  I like nude bodies...it leaves nothing
    to the imagination so its easier to get on to the really important
    things like "Who are you....really?".   I am a moderator of Christian
    Perspective and believe that God made us and we *ARE* beautiful...just
    as he/she/it made us.  <---did that cover everybody? :-)  I have been
    read only for some time now but I think I might just start noting here
    so here I am.
    
    
    Dave 

    
    
        Thought I would finally introduce myself. My name is Bob Adams
        and have been a Naturist all of my life also. As a young child
        and thru my teens, the most fun was had at the 'old swimmin' hole
        down at the river or pond. I didn't know what I was, nudist,
        skinny-dipper, exhibitionist, untill I found a copy of the World
        Guide and joined the Naturist Society.
    
        I am usually not too vocal around most people regarding this life
        style, but as I get older I start to have less regard for what
        people think of me.
    
        I also belong to NENA and was the original author of the site
        guide. Did this for about 3 years before they decided to do it
        more professionally.
    
        My only claim to fame is a mention in the new World Guide on the
        third page under listings, I'm the first name.
    
        I am taking the early retirement (SERP) and 5/29 is my last day.
        Any more SERPers out there in Naturist land?
    
        Enjoyed this notes file very much, and good luck to everyone.
    
        ....and get nekkid........Bob
    

    Hi! I am Serenity Starbright and I have been a non-card carrying
    naturist for about 28 years. (First experience 1964 or 65 - a very
    enlightened flower child) (smile)
    
    I moved to the New England area about a year ago and have been to the
    Ledges in Vermont about a dozen or so times while the weather was warm
    last year ... looking forward to when I can run into all those
    wonderful folks again ... have not been able to attend any of the
    hottub parties yet ... I work nights and also weekends, which tends to
    leave me out of alot of gatherings. I do get every third weekend off
    though! Hurrah!
    
    I have the phone number for NENA now and will contact them this week to
    become a member.
    
    It's wonderful to be here!
    Serenity
    
    

    Hello Brenda!
    
    How is everything down there in -sunny- New Mexico?? Miss ya bunches
    and bunches! Oh yeah ... my name changed too! I am no longer -sunny- or
    Janet. ;)
    
    Serenity

    Seems to me you've got plenty of BEACH in NM, just that the tide is
    really far out!

    Hi Gang,
    
    I'm sort of back.  I'm in MRO1, typically on Mondays, to attend a
    meeting for the company I work for.  To reach me on the Internet,
    send mail to "btw@world.std.com".
    
    Benson

>>    I'm sort of back.  

Welcome back Benson!  :-)  

Mega-hugs!

Judy

    
    Hi Benson,
    
    My first time to get a chance to look in here in over a month. Now
    let's see when I can get back out there and spend some time at
    Solair??? Remember September a couple years ago. Enjoyed my visit very
    much.
    
    Dave L....

Hi there Serenity ... 

I look in the conference after a few months away (well, it *IS* starting 
to get warm enough to head out to the beach soon ;-) ), and you're 
here too...

Small world ! :-)


Rob.

    Yo Rob! That's me! Here, there and everywhere!
    
    Serenity

    I am a very broad minded guy. Mails are always welcome. Looking for
    contacts in India (preferably Bangalore).
    
    Status
    
    	31, married, having a daughter, been with digital since Feb 92.
    
    Interests	
    
    	- reading books/magazines (all kinds !)
    	- listening music
    	- watching TV
    	- gardening
    	- nuding wherever possible
    
    Office Address :	
    
	C Sunder Rao
    	MIS, Digital Consulting
    	Digital Equipment (India) Ltd.
    	92, Industrial Suburb, Yeshwanthpur
    	Bangalore 560 022
    	India
        
    
    Sunder                                   

    G'day,
       Anthony here from the land of Oz just wondering if there are any other
    ozzies out there.
    
    I'm a contractor in Sydney, 33, married with 2 kids 4 1/2 and 2 1/2.
    
    We're into this nudist bit whenever possible, kids love it especially.
    
    Say hi! if you're in Oz or planning to visit.
    
    Cheers
    Anthony...