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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
Notice:Site report index is in topic 7
Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

374.0. "Researching dubious nude-use sites" by MOIRA::FAIMAN (light upon the figured leaf) Thu May 28 1992 21:57

The comments in 368.5 ended with this observation:

> My conclusion is that more investigation into the local custom is recommended 
> before advising anyone to use the area for nude swimming.  How does one 
> usually do such research?

While the comment was made with regard to a particular site, it is a general
problem for those of us who want to try out a site we're not personally
familiar with.  Visiting a site from the _World Guide_ can be really iffy
on occasion.

How do you deal with a site that *might* be c/o (or even one that *looks* like
it ought to be c/o)?
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374.1MOIRA::FAIMANlight upon the figured leafThu May 28 1992 21:5923
This was my reply by mail in response to the question, but it isn't really a
very satisfactory one.  I'm curious about other people's approaches.

	-Neil

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As for your question about research, that is a very good question (and one that
will often come up when trying to use World Guide listings).  Part of the answer
may just be to visit a site a number of times clothed, and get a sense for it.
That has two problems:  you may just be passing by; and, in a small site, you'll
never know whether everyone else there may be a nudist, whose staying dressed
only because of your own clothed presence.  I tend to do as you described: try
to be noticeably, but not egregiously, nude, and hope that if there is a local
tradition (or the potential for it) my example will be enough to elicit a like
response from others.  I have had the experience at other sites where people who 
were carefully clothed when we arrived undressed after my family did.

Of course, there's always the risk that some uptight family will arrive,
start screaming, and get you arrested for indecent exposure.  A real local
tradition of nude use is, I think, a fairly strong defense; the unfounded
hope that there might have been such a tradition would probably be considerably
less effective.  I don't have a good answer for you.
374.2NAPIER::WONGThe wong oneFri May 29 1992 02:4510
    When we first visited that place in Concord (Punkatasset?) last year,
    a bunch of us went and we asked the people there if they minded us
    going clothing-optional.  The surrounding people said they didn't mind
    so we did.  These people had kids around too.  Later on, some woman,
    a mother, went nuding too.
    
    Checking to see if anyone is going to run to the nearest authorities
    to turn you in is a good idea...
    
    B.
374.3WG format suggestionDANGER::JBELLAleph naught bottles of beer on the wall...Fri May 29 1992 16:1736
>  Visiting a site from the _World Guide_ can be really iffy on occasion.

    The guide really ought to include a bit more information
    about the status of a site.  It could get pretty tough if a
    a first-timer picks an entry at random.

    I think that the world Guide would benefit from a standardized
    header format. It wouild be sort of like the ones in the AMC canoeing
    guidebooks that have a little blurb describing the difficulty rating
    and the length of that stretch.  In the World Guide it could have
    a standard format for rating the situation at the beach.

    It could go sort of like this:

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    NAME: The Ledges, Wilmington VT              ACCESS: 1 mile trail
    FEATURES:  Sunning, Freshwater Swimming      LOCALE: wooded, lake
    STATUS:  well established                    CROWD:  medium
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    <more details go here>


Here are some other example headers:    (I'm guessing at some of the info)

    NAME: Pepperel Sandbar, Pepperel, MA         ACCESS: 2 mile trail
    FEATURES: Sunning, Freshwater Swimming       LOCALE: suburban,stream
    STATUS:  intermittent                         CROWD: small

    NAME: NENA Beach, Moonstone RI               ACCESS: parking nearby
    FEATURES: Sunning, Ocean Swimming            LOCALE: Ocean Beach
    STATUS:  landed organization, established     CROWD: large

    NAME: Moonstone Beach, Moonstone RI          ACCESS: parking nearby
    FEATURES: Sunning, Ocean Swimming            LOCALE: Ocean Beach
    STATUS:  Closed April through Sept            CROWD: Feathered