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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
Notice:Site report index is in topic 7
Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

200.0. "TWO HUNDREAD!" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Sep 11 1989 23:49

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200.1JAMMER::JACKMarty JackTue Sep 12 1989 12:597
                       <<< Note 200.0 by GUCCI::BENSON >>>
    
>    N.O.P.E. postulates that organized nudism is infiltrated with sex
>    offenders, preying upon the innocence of parents and children alike.
    
    I don't see it, but maybe that's because I mostly practice disorganized
    nudism.
200.2CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouTue Sep 12 1989 14:3116
    RE: .0
    
    Depends on the definition of "organized nudism".
    
    The places that I've visited tend to be very controlled.  The people
    are aware of who is around and what they're doing.  People who act
    suspiciously will be asked to leave.  Naturists tend to be very careful
    about strangers around their kids.
    
    There was an article in some issue of CWS that discussed the findings
    of some survey that indicated that nudists as a group have fewer
    murderers and other criminals than any other groups of people.
    
    N.O.P.E. tends to be very radical and/or militant in its propaganda.  
    I tend to be very careful about what they say.  Is that organization
    headed by Nikki Craft?
200.3Porn and wife swappers infiltrated nudism.TRUCKS::JAMES_ITue Oct 03 1989 16:0329
    RE: .0
    
Some years ago I put our (wife and I) name on a Free Sun contact list in the 
UK, started by Phil Valack.  (For the benefit of non UK residents may not know
Phil, he has published books of Free Sun Beaches and done a lot to promote 
disorganised naturism)  We had one genuine contact from an elderly couple in 
our area, with whom we had little in common.  We had a couple of enquiries 
from couples interested in wife swapping, and several enquiries from single 
men who appeared from their letters to be interested in wife swapping but 
didn't have anything to offer as a swap.  We also had leaflets about sexual 
encounter groups and various sorts of pornography, and all sorts of other 
promotional material some of which was actually naturism related.

We have moved house since then, and needless to say have not renewed our 
membership of the contact list.

This experience suggests to me that Naturism, organised or not, is infiltrated 
by all sorts of people with all sorts of interests which may be in conflict 
with the more puritanical ethic which certainly pervaded organised naturism in 
UK years ago.

I believe that porn is part of the process which degrades women, from their 
true place as human beings to mere sex objects.  I also believe that 
wifeswapping is degrading the fundamental human relationship which is 
formalised in marriage.  I also believe that if any sex offender harmed my 
kids the number of murderers in naturism would increase by one.

Is there any way to rid the movement of perverts?
200.4GENRAL::KILGORECoyote Clan MemberThu Oct 05 1989 12:368
Did anyone watch Most_Wanted on TV this last week?  They had a segment on a 
man that infiltrated a nudist community, won there trust, then sexually
molested a young daughter of one of the residents.  He was not using his
legal name at the time and is a known offender.  I certainly hope every one
of the CO/nudist community/resorts is made aware of this creep and he is 
apprehended soon.

Judy
200.5Felon is caught...BTOVT::WORCESTERThu Jun 07 1990 11:2215
    
    RE:-1.
    
    I watched Unsolved Mystery last night.  He did get caught in Georgia
    and is in jail....They didn't say anything about a court hearing or
    anything but, I saw that they had him handcuffed and bound with chains
    on his ankles and waist....surrounded by uniformed officers, and
    taken to his cell.  Good.  Now, what will the outcome of the trial be?
    Who knows?... As a father of 2 daughters, I sure hope the court system
    doesn't take this situation lightly.
    
    John
    6/7/90