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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
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Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

155.0. "Naturism and Tarot reading..." by HAMPS::PHILPOTT_I (Col. Philpott is back in action...) Wed Apr 12 1989 11:38

    
    As I said in the Roll Call note, I have a topic to create, that
    is not strictly about naturism ... or is it?
    
    For many years now I have studied The Old Religion - Wic'ca - and
    I also regularly give Tarot readings for various people - usually
    friends, but occasionally friends of friends, or people who have
    heard about it second hand. I have a reputation for accuracy (I
    once surprised a colleague by telling her she was pregnant - she
    came back a week later and told me that indeed she was pregnant).
    
    Now the peculiarity: initially I told the Tarot in much the same
    way as I read the Runes - as part of Wic'can festivals. And of course
    both myself and the subject would be naked at that time, since that
    is how we communicate / supplicate with the Gods. 
    
    Now I don't want to discuss the religious implications of my earlier
    contacts with Wic'ca, but I have found over the years that I get
    a much clearer reading of the cards if the reading is carried out
    in the nude. It is as if the clothing somehow blurs the image.
    
    One possible explanation is that Tarot is a form of empathetic link
    between the reader and the readee, and that indeed clothing impedes
    the link.
    
    Anyway I wonder if the readership have any comments.
    
    Also I wonder (and this is why it is here and not in DEJAVU) if
    whatever makes this link happen is present in the "communing with
    nature" experience that so many of us enjoy when nuding. It is after
    all at least possible, since it seems to be the reason for the nudity
    in Wic'can festivals.
    
    /. Ian .\
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155.1InterPERSONAL CommunicationHPSTEK::SHERMANFri Apr 14 1989 21:3350
    It is with caution that I reply to this.  But reply I will.
    
    While to the casual "Opt" (he/she who opts for clothing when it
    is a stated option) may wonder at what you wrote, I am beginning
    to understand something parallel to what I think you were getting
    at.  At any rate it is what I am getting at.
    
    During my several hours of helping loving couples create body maps
    in a formal way to a long-term positive attempt to stay ahead of
    skin cancer (and other types palpable from the outside), I learned
    a lot.
    
    As the contacts increased and we worked together, it became very
    evident that the outside of the human container bore little importance
    to the kind of relationship we developed during those moments together,
    there at Atika.
    
    Believe it or not, by the end of the first day, I could look at
    a human, male or female, and relate to the person inside ... because
    that was what I trying to preserve.  
    
    There are only two types of humans: Female and Male.  I have that on
    good authority (mine ... by golly ... because I've looked!  There ... I
    said it!).  The person inside is real. The person inside has two
    functions: (1) to be a good human being and (2) take part in
    reproducing the human race occasionally. 
    
    When each of us was at the point of becoming alive, some mechanism or
    someone (and I use that terms to be very non-commital) flipped a coin
    and we became either male or female as a result.  We then grew up and
    took part in the world. 
    
    I will tell you this.  Had I not been fortunate enough to stumble
    cold-turkey into Moonstone Beach, I would have never had that beautiful
    opportunity to reach the point where "looking over the fence" so
    to speak to reach the person, did not get all tangled up with whether
    or not the person was a she or a he.  And always wondering what
    was under all that clothing.
    
    You soon get past all those awful thoughts that press down on our
    neighbors the opts.  How sad for them not to share the freedom of
    experiencing fellow humans in the real sense and not all fussed
    up with covering -- both textile and psychological.
    
    So your ancient communicators knew what they were doing.  Now neat
    it would be to know for sure.
    
    Stan/