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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
Notice:Site report index is in topic 7
Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

124.0. "In the movies" by TLE::PETERSON (Bob) Thu Nov 17 1988 16:04

So let's talk about naturism and body-acceptance in the movies.  I'm not
talking about shower scenes, either.

A good current example in the States is "The Good Mother" with Diane Keaton.  I
really liked this movie.  It has two themes I could pick out.  The first was
the rather simplistic choosing between your morals (being a mother in touch or
following her newly found body-acceptance).  The other was the whole idea about
body acceptance and just how "far" can one go?  I had a long argument with my
partner on whether the legal system and court scenes portrayed were real or
correct, and I guess I still don't know if there would have been a better way
to approach the case.

To judge how well the movie is made, I felt everything completely natural and
was just as *shocked* as the mom when she found out the big news.  To counter
my own argument, however, I admit the pacing slowed considerably by that time
so anything might have been a shock.  Also they held back a number of facts
until after that point, so the audience has to judge in the mom's point of
view, not knowing the full story until confronted with that horrible choice to
make.  None the less I felt what was shown and even talked about to be very
well handled.

Anyone else see this?
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124.1KAOFS::D_BIGELOWLife's a beach!Mon Nov 21 1988 19:2435
    Well.......
    
    	I haven't yet seen the movie "The Good Mother", so I should't
    be quick to criticise just how much the movie has to do with body-
    acceptance.  I saw some preview flicks on the tele the other night
    and it looked more like a movie on how a mother wants to keep her
    child, than on the subject of naturism.
    
    	Does the movie have naturists in it ? A nude beach or something?
    
    	While we're talking naturism in movies, Neil brought this subject
    up in note 108, but since the topic was posted in this later note,
    I thought I'd reply here.  Neil's note is very enjoyable reading,
    for those who might be interested.
    
    	I rented a movie this past weekend, that I thought was very
    good.  WARNING, the subject of the movie is SEX, (relationships, positions,
    attitudes, etc), however, they really did a very nice job in showing
    a person how to accept their bodies, and had some very general naturist
    annotations, such as the most common, being naked outside with nature,
    sunning, swimming, playing in the nude, and at the same time presenting
    a wholesomeness and very positive attitude about being nude, both
    by yourself, and with others.
    
    	If I rated movies for a living, I would rate this one as "AA",
    Adult Accompaniment.  Yes, the movie portrays couples engaged in
    sexual activities, but it certainly couldn't be rated pornographic.
    Then again, I guess it depends on what pornographic means to each
    individual.  It is very educational, and definitely not grotesque.
    
    	The movie is called "Love Skills".
    
    Darrell
    
124.2Body acceptance, not naturismTLE::PETERSONBobTue Nov 22 1988 13:4311
Topic 108 is about educational videos.  I wanted to focus more on popular
entertainment, specifically movies (or movie videos).

"The Good Mother" is indeed mainly about parenting.  The active issue in the
second half was the child custody fight.  But I was talking more about the
theme (not visually explored but verbally) of body acceptance.  Nor am I
claiming this to be the movie's only or even main theme.  Themes, some
deconstructionists might say, are in the mind of the beholder. 

By the way, in my view b.a. is not to be confused with naturism since the
latter requires or inspires the former.
124.4More nudity on TVKAOFS::D_BIGELOWLife's a beach!Fri Dec 30 1988 11:0622
    Last night I watched a movie on a French station here in Canada.
    It had full front and back nudity frequently throughout the show,
    and I believe the beaches used for the set were in Morocco.  Although
    it was a frech station (limited audience), I was surprised because
    it was being shown on the normal cable station and during prime
    time.  The movie itself had no great plot, and it certainly had
    nothing to do with naturism, but in a lot of scenes at the beach,
    not only were the main characters usually in a state of undress,
    you could see a lot of 'normal' people (people not part of the movie)
    in the background sprawled all over the beach, most of them naked.
    
    	Something else that will be interesting.  I saw the show called
    "A Current Affair" last night.  They previewed what they will be
    showing on television tonight.  Someone has set up a 'Nude Car Wash'.
    Yes, it's where you take your car through a non-mechanical car wash,
    and a bunch of naked girls wash your car for you.  It will be
    interesting to see how much nudity (if any) the networks will allow
    the show to put on the air.  Remember, that's tonight at 7:00 PM,
    EST. 
    
    							Darrell