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That probably happens more often than many would like
to believe. Several years ago I met a woman (who was delightfully
"free" in expression of self) who told the group we were in
that she had once felt the urge to go naked and did...the
difference was that it was on Stanford University's grounds
in the middle of the day. She had removed her clothes and was
just strolling around until the campus police came and took
her away.
I was told by a friend one night that he had encountered
a woman at an apartment complex strolling around late at night
walking a dog, doing so in the nude.
As a bit of a diversion to the topic, here at DEC the janitors have a
utility room right next to the women's room that uses the same hallway
entrance. One day our secretary kept going in and coming back
out and I made a crack about being "busy" and she responded that
it was uncomfortable going to the bathroom while the janitor was
in his utility room right next door. What makes this interesting
to me is that the last two days, Kelly & Kline on KWSS radio
in the morning, have been getting listeners to "pee" into a toilet
with the telephone there to broadcast to other listeners. I am
at work without a radio so I don't know how many callers they've
had, but yesterday I got to listen to a man "peeing" and today
I listened to a woman "peeing" (through my stereo speakers.)
Isn't it interesting how different people can be in different
situations? It isn't the act, it's the motivation that separates
"rightness" from "wrongness." Surely going naked in and of
itself should not be grounds for being judged...the context must
have a great deal to do with it, if not most of it.
Frederick
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Re .0
I did that exact thing about two years ago on my way home from (if my
memory serves me well) a party at a friend's house. It was around 3am or
so and I was about 4 miles from my house when I just felt like taking my
clothes off while I was driving (at a very safe 30mph, and with no one to
offend in sight). When I got home, I firsted stepped out of the car to get
my mail then drove up the driveway and walked in the house, carrying my
clothes in a bundle. Felt great!
Re .1
> Isn't it interesting how different people can be in different
> situations? It isn't the act, it's the motivation that separates
> "rightness" from "wrongness." Surely going naked in and of
> itself should not be grounds for being judged...the context must
> have a great deal to do with it, if not most of it.
This past week I was staying at a hotel while away on training. On
Tuesday night I went down to the hotel pool for a swim and an interesting
thing occurred, which demonstrates your statement above.
A group of people came into the pool area -- about 5 guys and one
girl. Apparently, the girl did not know the hotel had a pool and so she
was wearing a pair of swim trunks donated by one of her male friends and
a yellow t-shirt (rather than a bathing suit). When she got in the water
(and got the shirt wet) it became "clear" that she was not wearing any
thing under the shirt. And, based on her conversations with her friends,
she was well aware of the situation. In fact, she said "I know you can
see everything, but I don't care."
Well, during the entire time they were at the pool her friends kept
prodding and joking with her to take the shirt off since it wasn't
hiding anything. And she kept saying how they were probably right and
how it was heavy and uncomfortable anyway. Finally, her friends got the
shirt off of her during some water shenanigans (actually, they lifted it
to about her shoulders and she took it off the rest of the way and threw
it at one of the guys).
As soon as the shirt was completely off, she wouldn't stand up in the
pool. Although we had seen through the shirt previously, she now felt
compelled to keep her breasts below the water line where they couldn't
be seen. She swam around top-less for a few minutes while her friends
tossed the shirt around and joked with her some more.
When they realized she wasn't going to chase after them (or get out
of the pool), they decided to give her back the shirt. And they even
stood around her in the water while she was putting the shirt on, to form
a barrier so that people wouldn't see her naked breasts while the shirt
was going on.
Guess what? When she got the shirt back on, she once again started
standing up in the pool with her breasts visible through the shirt.
This illustrates your point of how differently people act and how
the context comes into play. Clearly the girl wasn't worried about all
the guys (myself included, a complete stranger to her) seeing her breasts.
But she didn't want anyone to see her NAKED breasts. As if the wet t-shirt
somehow camouflaged what was there, or made things "all right".
(Actually, the converstions she was having with her friends, while in
a joking sense, where such that it sounded like they were all leaning
towards taking their clothes off. I kind of knew they weren't serious
about it, but was hoping they might so that I could then take my trunks
off also. It isn't often that you get to go swimming nude when the
temperature outside is below freezing. And I was dying for a nude swim!)
Frank
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