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Conference moira::naturism

Title:Naturism
Notice:Site report index is in topic 7
Moderator:GENRAL::KILGORE
Created:Tue Jan 26 1988
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:457
Total number of notes:3687

73.0. "Shirts VS. Skins." by TEMPE1::GAFFNEY (Paul) Sun Jun 19 1988 21:22

    I recently visted a nudist resort out in Calif. that requires all
    people to be nude at all times, weather permiting.  This rule was
    was formed years ago because of problems with lookeloo single men.
    Well this 65 year old couple came visting ( ASA members ).  And
    the man got undressed but the women did't.  One of the club
    enforcers asked her to get undressed or leave, she replied that
    she had a medical problem that caused some kind of genital bleeding
    and she could't.  The enforcer then told her to at lest take her
    shirt off.  The woman replied that had she knowned that the club
    was nudist mandatory she would not have come, but did take her 
    shirt off.  Both I and a few other members were bothered by this
    calus treatment (the other members were single men like myself).
    Some of these men said they would never have gotten their girl friends
    to try nudism if they had to get undress the first time they visted
    a place where a person could get socially nude.  Other members said they
    would be over run with single lookeloo men if the resort was clothing
    opt.  I tried to explain that other resorts I have visted that were
    CO did not have this problem, but no one wanted to hear this from
    me.  Myself I am a die hard nudist but I believe in a clothing opt.
    life style.
       So how do the other readers of this note file feel?
    
                      
                                         Paul
    
    
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73.1where did compassion go??!GENRAL::KILGOREThe Desert RatSun Jun 19 1988 21:5327
I feel so sorry for this woman!  And also feel outraged that there are not 
"exceptions" to their policies.  Geez, there are days that I don't feel like
getting undressed in front of people.  I prefer the CO attitude...the amount 
of attire (or un-attire) you wish is up to you.

Valley View Hot Springs in Colorado does not seem to have a problem with 
lookeeloo people (male or female)...at least I am not aware of it.  I don't 
care to be in a situation that I don't have some control and that includes
what I decide to wear or not wear in a nudist/CO environment.

Most women in particular have a 'monthly' problem we have to put up with.  And
some women do not use tampons.  I'm probably going to gross out a few people 
here...  <has to do with the alternative to tampons...hit next unseen before 
it is too late...>

Would you care to see a lady with a sanitary napkin plastered between her legs 
held in place with a napkin belt?  Or a swimsuit bottom or shorts instead with
the 'protection' concealed from view?  I prefer the swimsuit bottom...

My grandmother had cancer of the uterus and had bleeding 'down there' until 
she died.  I think people can have compassion in special situations and I
believe there **are** exceptions to all rules...

But then if there really is a problem with the lookeeloos, I'm not sure how I 
would handle the problem.  

Judy
73.2unfair...CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouSun Jun 19 1988 22:1414
    Each case should be evaluated for its own merits instead of having
    a general cover every situation.  Not every clothed person at a
    nudist resort is a voyeur and it should not be assumed so.
    
    At Solair (Connecticut) the rule is: You must be nude in specific
    places, such as the sunbathing beac area, the sauna, the
    whirlpool/jacuzzi, etc...  I've seen many people who had to wear
    clothes in those places because they had various reasons, such as
    sunburn.  They were in the nudity-required places because they wanted
    to be with their friends and families, which is what social nudity 
    is all about.

    B.
    
73.3Rules and exceptionsRETORT::GOODRICHTaking a long vacationWed Jun 22 1988 23:408
    Dyer Woods in Foster RI has a nude-required rule at the beach,
    sauna and tub. It also has rules against dogs. So what do
    these have in common?
    
    Seeing eye dogs are allowed, clothes are also allowed when
    there is a medical reason.
    
    - gerry