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Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

171.0. "Showing Kittens in CFA" by GRANPA::CCOLEMAN () Mon Feb 03 1992 11:12

    I have a  question regarding kitten judging in CFA. This weekend will
    be the first time that I have a kitten entered for judging. Are they
    judged basically the same way cats are? They don't receive Champion/
    Grant Champion status, correct? They just collect points? Are points
    based the same as the Allbreed and Specialty rings? Do they also get
    judged against their own breed as well? 
    
    Any info on kitten showing in CFA would be appreciated!
    
    Cheryl
    
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171.2JUPITR::KAGNOKitties with an AttitudeMon Feb 03 1992 11:4327
    I will attempt to answer what I can, then let Jo finish up.  :^)
    
    No, kittens do not receive champion or grand status.  Cats cannot
    compete for titles until they enter the championship or premiership
    class, which, I believe, is at 9 months old.  (4-8 months is kitten
    class competition).
    
    Kittens, do however, obtain points for regional and national awards. 
    CFA tracks those points in regards to placement in the finals.  I
    believe the kitten has to final in order to collect these points.
    I *think* the system works in a way that the best kitten would take the
    count of the whole kitten class in an allbreed ring, minus a point for
    themselves, the second best would get 95% of that, the third 90%, and
    so on.  In a specialty ring, the best kitten would take all the points
    of either the shorthair or longhair kittens (in your case with Korats,
    shorthair) minus one for themselves, and proceed as above.
      
    Yes, they do compete against kittens of their own breed for color class
    ribbons.  Last I showed a kitten in CFA, there were no best of breed
    ribbons awarded.  Jo mentioned some new show rules in the old version
    of Feline; perhaps this has changed.
    
    Now, if this reply is 100% incorrect, I hereby allow Jo to delete it
    and enter the proper information!!  :^)
    
    -Roberta
    
171.3JUPITR::KAGNOKitties with an AttitudeMon Feb 03 1992 11:458
    In case anyone is wondering where .1 is, I wrote & entered it, made a
    slew of typos (typical Monday!), did a reply/extract, edited it, then
    deleted the old version.
    
    Back to our regularly scheduled topic...
    
    -Roberta
    
171.4showing and typos, etc. :')MUTTON::BROWNTue Feb 04 1992 16:2935
    Roberta is right on all counts.  The point of showing a kitten is to
    get them used to the things that go on in a showhall, and to try for
    regional and national awards.  Kittens only get points if they make the
    finals.  No Best or 2nd Best of breed is awarded, but in your case,
    with only one color class, if you get the best of color win, that is as
    good as getting best of breed. :')
    
    The resolution to add Best and 2nd Best of breed awards for kittens and
    premiers is still pending.  The Judges Association is against the plan,
    saying that it will take more time to make these decisions, and cost
    the clubs more money, and cost CFA more bookkeeping.  They are making a
    counter proposal that if the resolution is adopted, then CFA should
    limit the counts allowed at the shows (225 count show would drop to
    200, and 450 count shows would drop to 400 max), and add mandatory
    start times of 8:00 a.m. for full count shows.  I will fill you in when
    I heard more.  Right now they are requesting clubs to write the board
    with their thoughts.
    
    Oh, one more thing, kittens are shown from the age of 4 months to the
    age of 8 months.  The day that a kitten turns 8 months it becomes an
    adult and shows in the adult class.  The age is determined by the
    opening date of the show.  If you had a kitten entered in a two day
    show and the kitten was to turn adult on the second day, it would
    compete as a kitten for that entire show and then as an adult the next
    weekend.
    
    Jo
    
    PS - almost forgot...Roe, when you wish to edit an existing reply, the
    easy way to do it is to delete it first, then immediately type
    reply/last.  A buffer will come up with the entire text of your last
    message (the one you deleted), you can then edit the reply and re-enter
    it.  This won't mess up the count either.  :')
    
    
171.5Kittens, kittens, kittens!GRANPA::CCOLEMANWed Feb 05 1992 12:3310
    Thanks for the info, Jo. P.A. will be 4 months old on 2/8, the day of
    her first show! Her and Crystal (the other kitten my niece bought) will
    be competing against each other, and of course, Gracie will be her
    typical PMS self, I'm sure. 
    
    Also, when does CFA's show year begin and end???
    
    Thanks,
    Cheryl
    
171.6MUTTON::BROWNWed Feb 05 1992 14:238
    The show season runs from May 1st to April 30th each year.  Any
    points earned this season will not carry over to the next season.  Your
    kittens will be in the same situation as my new ones, half their kitten
    career in one season and half in the next.  That means they probably
    won't be making any regional or national wins for us. :')
    
    
    Jo