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Conference misery::feline

Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

842.0. "discouraging kitten from toilet papering?" by WRKSYS::RICHARDSON () Mon Dec 19 1994 10:46

    My mischievous Maine coon kitten, Melody, recently discovered TOILET
    PAPER!  Every cat I have ever owned has had a stint of unrolling the
    toilet paper, but Melody is really enjoying herself - it's getting so
    that she uses more t.p. than the humans in the house do!  Part of this
    may be that the local grocery store quit carrying the kind I was in the
    habit of buying, and all the brands they still carry are the real soft,
    double-ply kind which unroll real easily and so may appeal more to the
    mischief-on-four-furry-feet.  The kitten does paper towels, too, but
    not very often.  Any idea on how to discourage this behavior without
    making a nuisance for the people?  I was thinking of mounting the toilet
    paper "backwards" so that it unrolls off the back instead of the front
    of the roll - I realize that some people think that is the normal way
    to unroll it anyhow, but the holder for it is close to the floor so it
    is tricky to get paper off the roll this way.  The rationale is that
    this way if the kitten uses the roll as another scratching post, it
    will roll up rather than off, I hope.  (I don't really want to keep the
    t. p. in a cabinet since you can't reach it easily from the "throne" in
    that case.)  Thank this will work?  I'm not home often enough to try to
    squirt kitty when she unrolls the paper - in fact, I have never caught
    her in the act, but it is getting so that she does it nearly every day. 
    The elderly cat (JFCL) of course is far too dignified to unroll toilet
    paper and drag it all over the house...
    
    /Charlotte                             
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842.1USCTR1::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Dec 19 1994 11:5311
    My first thought was to mount the paper "backwards", too, but that can
    backfire--it's still a fun scratching log, and you end up with
    perforated TP  :-)
    
    You could try using those (dweeby, IMO) extra-roll-"skirts" that people
    park on the back of the throne... usually crocheted or quilted, with a
    doll's torso coming out of the top  %-P  ... just long enough for
    Melody to forget about TP and grow up a little!  Inconvenient, but you
    might only have to live with it a few weeks.
    
    Leslie
842.2Try using a scratch post in the B.R.PSYCHE::AIKEYMon Dec 19 1994 12:0313
    
    I have two maine coon's that love the stuff...  We put a scratch post
    in the bathroom...  It has now become a conversational item when people
    come to visit...  My guys started doing this late.  They are both over
    a year old.....  
    
    Good luck!
    
    
    
    *joyce
    
    
842.3Someone already thought of this!LJSRV2::FALLONMon Dec 19 1994 12:273
    They also sell a clear plastic covering device designed to prevent just
    this!  I have seen it advertised in the back of Cats magazine.
    Karen
842.4I'm going to try itWRKSYS::RICHARDSONMon Dec 19 1994 12:2716
    Yeah, Melody's over a year old, too!  Coon kitties grow up slowly...
    There's no room in the bathroom for a scratching post - it's a real
    small bathroom.  And there already is a spare roll of t.p. under a
    crocheted cover on the top of the tank (not too dweeby a cover, it's
    just that you have to store the extra t. p. someplace).  I think I will
    try reversing the paper.  I don't mind toilet paper with holes in it;
    what I don't like is finding that all the t.p. is all over the house,
    and none of it is next to the "throne"!  With one of the kitty boxes in
    the bathroom now (more convenient for JFCL who is getting arthritic at
    age 17, plus we weren't sure at first if the kitties would share a box,
    even though JFCL was used to sharing it with her old companion kitty
    before Nebula died) the shredded paper often ends up in there, which is
    pretty messy!  Good thing I love cats...
    
    /Charlotte
              
842.5I thought I got *all* magazinesWRKSYS::RICHARDSONMon Dec 19 1994 12:293
    Sounds like I ought to look for Cats Magazine; thanks for the tip!
    
    /Charlotte
842.6Try this...AIMHI::SPINGLERMon Dec 19 1994 12:2911
    
    If it is just kitten behavior, (Maine Coons can be very faithful to a
    favorite naughty behavior!) Try wrapping the roll that is mounted on
    the holder in a washcloth and secure the ends with a clothspin.  This
    will need to be done until (if) the kitten forgets about what fun it is
    to re-decorate the house!
    
    Good luck!
    
    Sue & Furry Crew (Spots is our Maine Coon kitten 9 years old!!!)
    
842.7USCTR1::LAJEUNESSEMon Dec 19 1994 12:388
    Mine was doing this and I just took it off the roll and put it and the
    back of the toilet.  She isn't interested in it anymore.  I guess it
    you can't get a good spin on it it's not any fun.  Can't you
    just put the roll on the back of the toilet?  Not pretty but it might
    stop her.
    
    M
    
842.8The Lovely MS. Pip was a decorator, tooHELIX::SKALTSISDebMon Dec 19 1994 13:105
    The late Pip (who definatly had some maine coon in her) used to grab
    the end of the paper and run thru the house with it (until the streamer
    broke off from the rest of the roll. then she'd go back for another).
    
    Deb
842.9curiouse kittyBRAT::MINICHINOMon Dec 19 1994 13:1711
    Is there a particular reason you keep the bathroom door open? Is there
    a liter box or something the cat is using. My little Harley is a very
    curious cat and use to go into the bathroom and spin the tp until she
    discovered the Q-tips in the garbage, then she tipped the garbage over 
    and spun the toilet paper into the garbage.   
    
    So I shut the door to the bathroom now.
    
    small move but problem solved. 
    
     
842.10USCTR1::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Dec 19 1994 14:199
    .9>     Is there a particular reason you keep the bathroom door open? 
    
    I know you're asking Charlotte, but isn't a closed bathroom door the
    universal symbol for "occupied"?!  The only thing I hate worse than
    knocking on a bathroom door (when it's been closed a *long* time) is
    being *on* the throne when someone knocks: some people knock AS THEY'RE
    ENTERING, shudder!!
    
    Leslie
842.11it's the cat bathroom tooWRKSYS::RICHARDSONMon Dec 19 1994 17:0915
    The upstairs cat box lives in the bathroom, since JFCL has trouble
    making the stairs when it is cold out (arthritic hips, poor old
    kitty!).  Most of the time, both kitties use both boxes, though.  I'd
    really rather have just one box in the basement, but we are sort of
    going to have to live with one upstairs for as long as the old cat
    survives (she is 17, and beginning to have kidney trouble).  I have a
    really small place, and there really isn't any other upstairs spot for
    the cat box.  I expect paper would tend to end up in the cat box less
    often if the box were further away - though the kitten gets it all over
    the house about as often anyhow.  Toilet paper seems to be much more
    amusing than paper towels!  My husband will wait until whatever kitty
    is in the bathroom gets done before he goes in, but I don't - the cats
    don't seem to mind sharing with their human slaves.
    
    /Charlotte
842.12Extra Soft T.P.SUBURB::HARWOODJTue Dec 20 1994 11:1618
    We keep our T.P on one of those Paper Towel poles - as the paper 
    can't 'free run' so easily.
    
    It is made of wood, has a round base and a short pole sticking up
    a bit like this	
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    The only problem we have is that occasionally it has a coating of fur, 
    where our kitties have rubbed their little faces on it.
    YOu try explaining that away to non-kitty owned visitors.
    
    Judy
    
    
    			
842.13PCBUOA::aki214.ako.dec.com::cappelTue Dec 20 1994 14:598
Can you try just closing the bathroom door so the kitties can't get in
there.  It works for my with my 1 year old daughter who enjoys the same
game.

Good luck,

Pam

842.14so far, just holey t. p. nowWRKSYS::RICHARDSONTue Dec 20 1994 15:2816
    I found another bunch of "streamers" when I got home yesterday, so I
    put the roll in the holder backwards and went off to my evening
    committee meeting.  NO "streamers" when I got home, although there were
    a few tatters and holes.  Same thing this morning.  So maybe the toilet
    paper isn't as much FUN this way, and the kitten will go after
    something else...  I can't move the upstairs kitty box or keep them out
    of the bathroom since the old kitty can't get up and down the steps
    real well when her arthritis is bothering her (when it is real cold
    out).  She gets real frustrated, and then eventually, of course, does
    her thing someplace else - a couple of times she hauled the bathmat
    down to the fllor and used that, and then hid from us when we got him -
    the old kitty, unlike the kitten, knows which things she is definitely
    NOT supposed to be doing!  Not that she doesn't DO them anyhow, but she
    knows she isn't supposed to GET CAUGHT doing them - unlike the kitten!
    
    /Charlotte
842.15JULIET::CORDES_JAEight Tigers on my CouchTue Dec 20 1994 16:5410
    Re:  .12
    
    Carrie seems to be able to circumvent the paper towel poles.  I've
    come home to more shredded paper towels than I can count.  Sure 
    glad it works for someone though.
    
    Carrie is also the one who unrolls soft little piles of tp to lay
    on while I'm in the shower.
    
    Jan
842.16I love to watch them!LJSRV2::FALLONWed Dec 21 1994 13:306
    I have a couple of cats, Callie comes to mind as well as Tubba, that
    I actually enjoy watching as they shred a roll of paper towels.
    They go so excited and have a ball kicking at it with their hind feet!!
    What's the use, for the cost of a roll of paper towels, they have fun
    every once in a while.
    Karen
842.17seems to have worked!WRKSYS::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 14:146
    Well, the toilet paper hasn't been shredded for a week, so I guess it
    is lots more amusing if the paper unrolls rather than rolls up when you
    scratch at the front of the roll!  Now it just has a few holes poked in
    it.  it was getting so that the kitten was using more t.p. than I was!
    
    /Charlotte
842.18Potty training kitty!ASDG::NJACKSONThu Jul 18 1996 17:5210
    On the subject of toilets, there is a www address where cat lovers can
    find out how to train kitty in using the bowl.  It has pictures and
    everything!  
    
    The address is: http://www.sff.net/people/karawynn/cat/toiletcat.htp
    
    I never trained my kitties to use the toilet but the article is cute!
    Check it out!
    
    Nancy