Conference misery::feline

    I think it would be a GREAT idea! I'm no artist, but I'll help if I
    can!
    
    Cheryl & crew

suggested logo:   a kitten sitting in front of a terminal and two other
		  kittens peering over it's shoulder at the screen.....


It would be nice if we had an iron-on patch available...then I could put
it on a long-sleeved T-shirt......

		Fun ideas!

    And it HAS to say "Meower Power" on it!  :^)
    
    And, add to the logo suggested in .2...one kitty sitting ON the
    terminal looking down...
    
    K.C.

    Me, again!
    
    I've just done a rough sketch of a logo (I'm no one's artist), and it
    is rather cute.
    
    I honestly don't know if I can make it to the East Coast Feliner's
    gathering tomorrow night, so if there is a Feliner here in MKO1 who
    wants to take a peek at it, I'm located at MKO1-1/H13.  Maybe a REAL
    artist can use the idea, and elaborate on it.
    
    K.C. - DTN 264-2570

    I organized a t-shirt/sweatshirt thing out here (Ca) a couple of years
    ago.  The hard part/expensive part is getting the art work done.  Once
    you have that, getting tshirts/sweatshirts, etc. is relatively easy
    as long as you have enough to order.
    
    Maybe we could get sweatshirts or those very long tshirts that double
    as nighties too?
    
    How did the Feliner badges that we had awhile back -- that's a really
    nice kind of drawing.
    

    Nothing says we can't have a choice between long or 
    short sleeves!  I think, to keep it simple,
    we had better stick with 1 color of T, though.
    
    (BTW, I have connections in the T printing world!)
    
    What color T and ink should we get?
    
    I suggest: White T w/ burgundy or navy blue ink
               Orchid T w/ dark purple ink
    	       Gray T w/ burgundy ink
    	       (I love black T's, but not for this!)
    
    L-

So, would it be too intricate to have Xneko-kitty on the terminal screen? :-)

Orchid/purple sounds good to me.  You usually can't find those colors at the
store.

And I vote for super-long with either short sleeves or choice of sleeves (since
summer is coming/here).

K.C., if you can get access to a workstation, maybe you can draw in (like
type in?) your sketch and send it over to me.  I hope you can come yourself,
though...

Jill

    I think it's a great idea.  I vote for orchid/purple.  Dian's picture
    idea sounds great, and I like Meower Power, also.  Any chance of a
    v-neck style?  That would be good with the extra long for a night
    shirt.
    
    Steffi

    Suggestions so far:
    
    Reg T w/ short sleeves
    Reg T w/ long sleeves
    Reg crewneck Sweatshirt
    Long Nightshirt T w/ V neck
    
    FYI:  The more we vary the order, the more it costs to do the printing.  
    	  (T prices vs Sweatshirt prices vs nightshirt prices will vary)
          T's are the least expensive to have done.  
    
    L-
    

    Can I make a suggestion?  Please remember not all of the feliners
    are size 5-18 some of us are larger proportioned. Nothing I hate
    worse than a tight T shirt.
    
    I vote for a white T with Navy blue lettering. Maybe just a cats head
    or silioutte (sp) would not be too expensive.
    
    I will make Roberta keep me posted on your progress if nothing is done
    on this before I leave.
    
    Barbara
    
    ps/long or short  doesn't matter nor does the sleeve length. I will be
    spending a lot of time at the beach this summer so could use either.

    I vote for V-neck T.
    
    And I can't get to a workstation to draw on the system.  :^(
    
    K.C.

Hi...one of my fellow engineers runs a t-shirt business out of his home.
His prices are really good and I'm sure he'd put up with our requests for
unusually sizes/configurations/whatever.  He's doing a job for me now and
his prices are very reasonable.

Shall I hit him up for quotes on prices???? 

Mary

    I don't think an orchid/purple combo will show the design very well.
    I'd try a white design on a blue or navy shirt (ah, dark colors,
    another fav of us biggies.)
    
    The restrictions on color/size of shirts themselves tend to be because they
    buy the shirts in lumps before they print them up;  our lump size was 3,
    so we could get, like, 3 small grey, 3 small white, 6 medium grey, 3 large
    white, 6 Xlarge grey, etc.
    
    Prices varied a lot, so it's worth getting > 1 quote.
                                

    I like the Gray/Burgundy combo the best but am pretty flexible about
    the color as long as it isn't orange or yellow (there is no way that
    I can wear either of those colors and not look like a paler than pale).
    
    I prefer short sleeves but will deal with it if they come out as long
    sleeves instead.  I like loose fitting T's so I usually buy X-large
    since they are prone to shrinking.  The artwork sounds cute and I like
    the idea of Meower Power being on the shirt too.  You guys are sooo 
    creative!
    
    Jan
                                                                          

    It's great. I vote for artwork .2+.3, Meower Power, V-shaped T and navy
    on white. 
    
    But:
    
    How will I get the two I need? Is there Tube Mail to Hungary???!
    
    :^( Nat

    Sounds like a great idea - put me down for one T, any colour with short
    sleeves!
    
    Lisa. (I'll pay the postage to the UK ;-)
    

    My preference would be for t-shirt, either short or long sleeves.
    (not v-neck)  The darker the color, the better.  Black, navy blue,
    hot pink, aqua, green, red.... but no pastels.
    
    If the final design has a terminal, vaxstation, the word Digital or
    anything tech weenie, count me out!  If it has a bookitty or two and
    isn't too cutsie, count me in. :^)
    
    I'd be glad to make a few drawings or suggest ideas but will first need
    to know if we are limited to a small design or just one color for the
    design.  It would be neat to do something tropical looking since summer
    is coming.  How about a cat wearing sunglasses?  We could use Beth as
    the model!!!!

    Sounds good to me too!!!!  Any design/color would be fine...but I like
    mine real big!! (great to sleep in!!)
    
    If we can't find an artist to draw...we can always look through
    magazines and find a cute black/white picture and use that! (line
    drawing works great!!)  
    
    Sandy

    When I order t-shirts for my students (I'm a part-time Jazzercise
    instructor) they only come in X-tra large. The reason why is because
    you can get an EXTREMELY colorful logo (any color T) for a reasonable
    price. I pay about $6/t-shirt when I order in bulks of 24 shirts. My
    sister works part-time for one of the advertising places (the ones that
    specialize in neat things like balloons w/ your logo, pens w/ your
    logo, etc) and that shirts are usually sold in bulks of 25+. So, I
    think we can probably get EXCELLENT quotes/bids! And I'm putting in my
    vote for: 1) x-large t-shirts (can use for coverup, night shirt,
    everyday wear; 2) neck doesn't matter; 3) colors don't matter, except I
    don't care too much for yellow!
    
    Will these shirts come in kitty sizes? My 4 would each like one if they
    do ;^)
    
    Cheryl

    Hi,
    
    	When the design for the T-shirt etc is finalised is there anyway to
    get a couple to the UK ?, as I would love one as I am sure my wife
    would!
    
    			Hopefull
    
    
    				David

    NO yellow, NO neon colors, please.  White, navy blue, purple, OK.
    
    I like the idea of a dark (black, navy blue, etc.) line sketch 
    picture on white, or vice versa.
    
    Size really doesn't seem to be a problem (being so small, I can wear 
    an X-large as a dress).  Like was said earlier, that size can be used 
    as just about anything by just about anyone.
    
    I really like this idea!!!  :^)
    
    K.C.

    Well, this idea seems to be progressing along well and I have a couple
    of requests.  
    
    	-  100% cotton T's please (cotton/poly gives me a rash!  :^)
    
    	-  White w/blue, red, purple, whatever ink is my vote.
    
    	-  Definalty X-large T's, great w/ leggins.
    
    	-  I like the idea of the xneko kitty and Meower Power
    	   (and Cheryl's comment on no tech weenie stuff).
    
    	Michele
    

         Good idea!
    
         Any color but yellow, orange or pink is okay with me.
    
         And I guess I'm in the minority - I usually wear Small, will
    sometimes wear Medium, but feel like I'm in a burlap bag if I'm in a
    large or x-large.  Don't like my clothes *that* loose.
    
         100% cotton or cotton/poly is okay with me.
    
    					- Andrea

    I am not sure if reproducing xneko kitty would be legal.  Can anyone
    comment?  Who owns the rights to it?
    
    T-shirts would be great.  Any graphic artists among us please speak up. 
    We did shirts for the SCBF (Sacred Cat of Burma Fanciers) and did them
    in white print on dark shirts, they came out beautifully.  Also, we
    were able to sell them for only $10 a piece.
    
    Jo

    One thought about getting a dark color T shirt is the way cat hair will
    show on it.  I vote for light blue or lavender or pink.
    
    Steffi

    Count me in too, this is a great idea.  I'm not fussy on color or style
    just as long as it's at least an x-large.  I'm also a "big" girl and
    can't stand anything tight.  I usually by a 2 or 3 X, so the bigger,
    the better.
    
    Lori B.

If you're trying to get an idea of sizes, too, make mine extra large, extra
long, too.

Hmm, maybe grey like in sweatshirts will camouflage the tell-tale cat fur...

Jill

    HI,
      Yes, count me in too......as for sizes, I guess a medium would be
    where I would land, or a small, depending on how small.  As for color,
    well, I hate the color orange, so wouldn't want that, but as for
    getting a color that wouldn't show cat hair....I'm doomed!  I've got
    three black cats and a siamese.....they can manage to shed the proper
    color hair to show on *anything*.....They've got it down to a science
    now! ;-)
    
    -HA

    XL t-shirts don't work as nighties unless they're extra long as well,
    for non-munchkins :-)                            
    

    I like long sleeve t-shirts and I thought the idea of using either
    Xneko or a cat looking at a computer were good.  Or, maybe a cat
    playing with the mouse?
    
    As for colors, it doesn't much matter to me.  Navy blue is a pretty
    safe color.  I also prefer crew necks.
    
    I'll volunteer my babies as models should you need them!  Barney and
    Gonezo, however, are so big themselves, that they could not fit on a
    shirt together, let alone getting Benny into the picture too!
    
    Mary
    

    I don't think that showing cat hair is a major concern for most of us
    in this file.  If it was, then we sure wouldn't have as many cats as we
    collectively do!!  I vote for dark colors myself.  Not too crazy about
    pastels generally.
    
    Jo

    What a great idea.  I want one!
    
    I like the idea of a larger T - I like to wear them big and romey with
    leggens - and I kind of like the idea of a dark background but I don't
    wear navy blue.
    
    Count me in.
    
    Giudi

    I'm with Steffi.  I prefer light to medium colors like pink, lavendar,
    and royal blue.
    
    I hate V necks (sorry to those who do!) but love mock turtles and crew
    necks.  The roomier the better as well.
    

    Wow!  I guess everyone likes the idea!  (: (: (;
    
    Just to give everyone a general price - reg crewneck
    short sleeve T's would be under $8 ea.  Nightshirts
    and crewneck sweatshirts would be under $12 ea. (prices shown
    do not include the artwork/silkscreen charges, of course!)
    
    As long as no one minds paying up front, this
    will be no problem to do!  The price each would have
    to include the artwork charge, and a silkscreen
    charge.  Silkscreen charge is nominal, about $20
    max!  The artwork charge is the killer!  Getting
    camera ready artwork can be on the expensive side!
    
    I have sent myself each reply, so I can compile
    a list of who wants what.
    
    How about a group of cats/kittens around and on
    a terminal, and on the terminal screen the words
    "Meower Power" can be read?  
    Anything else we want in wording?
    
    If anyone has a good line drawing of a terminal,
    please send it to me.  Also, if anyone see's any
    cute line drawings of "generic" cats/kittens, please
    pass them along, too!  (Purrsonally, I think they should
    all look like Korats, but that wouldn't be fair! (-; ) 
    Or, if you have done a rough sketch, pass that along!
    
    Having the artwork created shouldn't be any big deal.
    I have connections in the graphic world, too!
    
    BTW, I would see to it that anyone outside of the USA who
    wanted some, got them shipped to them!  If you are willing to
    pay, I'm willing to make sure you get one! (:  
    
    
    Back with more info later!
    
    Lynne
    
     

    Oh, BTW-
    
    We cannot use "DEC's" name on this or any of the Dec
    products!  It has to be very generic!  
    
    Cheryl - tech weenie?  Hahahahahahahaaaa
    
    L-

    BTW, what is xneko kitty?  If it's some type of software
    created kitty or along those lines, we can't use it, either!
    
    L-

    I think xneko is someone's hack.  If anyone knows who wrote it, we
    could ask if it's okay to use it.  I still like those feliner
    badges, though --  was that Nancy DC?  I'm surprised sweatshirts
    are only about $12 -- I think plain ones run at least $20....
    

    Re: .34-.36
    
    Send me your mailstop via E-mail, and I'll I/O you the picture I
    sketched.  It just about fits your description, but is rough.  If you
    know someone who can "pretty" it up, feel free.
    
    K.C.  (CIVIC::FAHEL)

    I've taken a little bit of time and created a possible logo in
    DECwrite.  It's a kitty sleeping on top of a terminal.  It says "MEOWER
    POWER!!" above it.  
    
    Unfortunately, I couldn't get REALLY creative with the kitty.  The cat
    just happened to be on that I found in a .eps file on our system.  It's
    really cute!
    
    I'll bring it to the feline gathering tonight.
    
    Holly
    

    How about a pointer to the eps file?  Thanks.
    

	Hi,

	Great T-shirt idea !!!!!
	Not only UK is interested but Holland as well. Count me in for
	a xx-large (as american sizes are smaller than european).
	I prefer light blue or white because prints look much better
	on light background. 


	Our Maine Coon-club ordered last year sweat- and t-shirts with
	a Maine Coon sitting on the waterfront (+ lighthouse) from
	Carolyn Gruber (haven't the address with me).
	She makes/sells nice prints on shirts, tops and bags
	of different races (MC's, Birmans,Persians etc.).
	If anyone would like her address, let me know.
	Ask her for a leaflet with the stuff she's selling (prices,
	colours and sizes included).
	 

	-Erwin-

    RE:  .41
    
    >> -< male order >-
      
    A MALE order, eh??  heehee!  I'd like to order a MALE too! (-:
    
    RE:  the T-Shirt design.
    
    I brought it to the FELINE gathering last night.  Everybody seemed to
    like it.  I gave it to Lynne Mandile.  I guess she's keeping all of the
    drawings and we'll vote on them.
    
    If anyone wants a copy of the design, it's in my directory.  I've
    unprotected it.  
    
    AYRPLN::DISK$USER2:[TAYLOR]CAT_SHIRT.PS;
    
    If you have problems accessing it, send me mail and I'll send you the
    postscript file.
    
    Holly
    

    I mailed my sketch (pencil-by-hand - I can't draw with my computer) to
    Lynne...she should get it Monday or Tuesday.
    
    I'll admit...I'm flexible.  The only things I REALLY don't want is
    yellow/orange colors, or anything neon (like hot pink).  Other than
    that, light, dark, white, whatever is fine with me.  Although I like
    v-neck, crew is fine.  Long-sleeve, short-sleeve, whatever.
    
    Gee...I'm looking forward to this!  :^)
    
    K.C.

    Great Picture! Am I missing something though - there seems to be a bit
    of shading to the left of the terminal. Using the PostScript previewer
    it looks like something gets drawn and then almost rubbed out .... any
    chance of getting Meower Power on the screen? I love the cat and the
    colour! It's almost Pookie coloured!!
    
    Re: sending $$$$ to the USA. I either ask a friend who has a $$ account
    to write me a cheque or I send cash if it's only a small amount. If
    there are lots of orders from the UK, we could probably send the cash
    over with a Digit who is visiting the USA.
    
    Lisa.
    

    The picture is really cute.  I would like a t-shirt too.  Any color,
    short sleeve, x-large or xx-large would be fine.
    
    Linda

    No Lisa, you're not really missing anything.  Actually, that's what
    it's doing on the left side of the screen.  The original picture I had
    of the cat had a pool of milk next to it.  I simply "rubbed out" the
    milk by putting a white box over it with no borders.
    
    Pretty sneaky, eh? (-:
    
    And it should have "MEOWER POWER" written on the top.  Hmmmm... will
    have to check that.
    
    Holly
    

    Could someone maybe mail me a hardcopy of this picture?  Please?
    
    K.C. (Mailstop - Karen T. Fahel - MKO1-1/H12)
    

     Meower Power should be on the terminal, not at the top, thats what I
    meant ....
    
    ;-)
    
    Lisa
    

    Hi,
    
     Can someone tell me how to preview the picture Holly drew on my
    terminal? I copied it, but our postscript printer is on the blink! I
    want to see it again! I saw it last night, but I want to see it agian!
    
    Thanks,
    
     Y

    
    If you've got DECwindows you can use the CDA Viewer application.
    
    ...Rania
    

    I'd be interested in anything extra large with short sleeves.  What a
    great idea!  
    
    Diane

    Why don't we use a whole male as the picture for the t-shirt?

Now, now, Cheryl :-) :-) 

And finally I know what K.C.'s real name is :-) :-)

Jill

    Rania,
    
     Thanks! It worked. I usually try to avoid postscript, so don't know
    the tricks of the trade!
    
     Holly,
    
     It's even cuter with the colors! I like this picture a lot!
    
     Y

    What a great idea!  Count me in.  I'm with Jan (.14): I like xtra large
    T's, no yellow or orange, short- or long-sleeved (either is fine),
    crew- or v-neck (doesn't matter). And I'm with Michele (.22) in voting
    for 100% cotton tees.  I think I would prefer xtra-long as well for
    wearing with leggins.
    
    I really like to idea of Kitties around and on a computer terminal
    (sorry Cheryl :^)) - since that's how we all "met" - with "Meower
    Power" on the screen.  How 'bout a variety of kitties/kitty-faces like
    a Persian, a Maine Coon, a Scottish fold, and a shorthair (British or
    American). [I'm not trying to play favorites here; just trying to show
    a variety of different looking cats.]
    
    Re: Shirt styles and colors -- if there are enough people interested,
    couldn't we offer 2 or 3 different styles/colors (but all with the same
    design).  For instance, offer a choice of:
    
    		a Grey V-neck with burgundy ink.
    		a White crew-neck with royal blue ink.
    	   -or-	a Royal blue xtra-long, long-sleeved with white ink.
    
    Just come up with about 10+/- choices and have everyone vote.
    
    I can't wait!! :^D
    
    --Michelle

    I like it because the cat looks just like
    Casey, my Fat Korat! (:
    
    Well!!! We have more than 40 interested in this!
    
    Let's see what we get from a graphic artist when
    I throw all the ideas at her!  (as soon as I get
    K.C.'s sketch, that is!)
    
    Lynne
    

    There would be a silkscreen
    charge for EACH color of ink.
    
    L-

    I would be interested in an x-large t with a crew neck,
    preferably a 50/50 blend (I hate 100% cotton), in preferably
    white, blue or black.    I would also probably be interested
    in an x-large sweatshirt if you do them...let us know
    what we have to do to get one!
    
    Cheri

    << Let us know what we have to do to get one!
    
    Oooohhhh, I'm not gonna touch this phrase! (:

    Bribe with whole males?  ;^)
    
    K.C.

    Geez, you guys! A person is out of the file for ONE DAY and you come up
    with a great idea..and I almost missed it! Was I sleepin' at the party
    or what? I missed the Holly's drawing too. waaaahhhh, whine, snivel,
    whimper....
    
    Well, I like the idea of multiple varieties of kitty's round the ole
    tube since that's how most of us all met. I'd prefer 100% cotton, in
    extra long, x-lg to wear with leggins and to compensate for shrinkage.
    I prefer medium colors lavendar, mint, peach, royal blue, cream. I'd
    prefer to stay away from neons. Neck design, whatever so long as I can
    get my head through the hole... ;^D I like meower power too.
    
    hmmmmm whole males, single I hope! 8^) ;^> :^D hehehehehehehehehehehe
    
    Can someone send me a copy of the picture, hardcopy? I don't have
    access to anything but a DECmate 2.....--heavy sigh--
    
    Roslyn

    re: .42
    
    Holly,
    
    I tried to copy the file so I could see what it looked like and I'm
    getting "file not found".  Have you deleted it?
    
    Lori B.

>    What color T and ink should we get?
    
>    	       Gray T w/ burgundy ink
>    	       (I love black T's, but not for this!)

if black isn't an option (we redheads LOVE black, don't ya know) I vote
for gray

notes on sizes:  If we get an iron-on or stitch on patch with the logo on it,
		 we can put this on anysize, anycolor, anything we want...
		 as I like loose clothing and I am big - I need a 5x to be
		 comfortable...it is easier to get a patch and order my 
		 shirt from Blue-Sky designs.  It would also be cheaper to
		 mail, and less costly to make, I'd bet.

notes on design:  c'mon gang...this is the logo for our notes conference...
		 a terminal is the medium of communication...I can get a tee
		 shirt with cute kittens on it anywhere...I want something
		 that is special.  I'm not interested if it doesn't have
	         a terminal on it - but, not a brand-name terminal...    8^}

    I am alittle late in reading this, but I would like one, too!
    
    Please post when you get all the info (colors, sizes, styles).  This is
    a great idea!!!  What creative people we have at DEC.
    
    Looking forward to my T!
    
    Anna/Zildjian/Spunks/Sage
    

    
    	Sounds like a great idea.....and I'm not picky as to colors
    	etc......so whatever is decided is fine with me!  =)
    
    	JJ

    Hi All!
    
     I've been out of notes for a few days fighting a deadline, but I'm
    running something right now and figured I'd pop in with my nickel's
    worth! ;-)
    
     I'm game for pretty much anything, but can't wear oranges and olives
    etc.. I think the idea for iron on or whatever patch would be good too.
    I'm on the large size myself, and if I get an extra large 100% cotton
    t-shirt, and wash it, it ends up as a regular large, which is OK for
    plain T-shirt wear, but not large enough to sleep in or wear with
    leggins for me. I'd need at least a 3X T to accomplish this.
    
     I'll settle for a regular T-shirt if the consensus goes that way
    though. Actually I'll probably settle for several! ;-)
    
     I think it should have a terminal too, since I AM a tech-weenie as
    Cheryl so nicely puts it! ;-) Plus, as was said, that's really how we
    all met!
    
     Hmmm, I think I put in a dime's worth! ;-)
    
    Y

RE:  The file

Unfortunately, disk$user2 had a problem on Friday.  Any files that I
created on Friday has been lost! )-:  I've got to recreate the file, but
don't have time at the moment.

Will have it done for tomorrow, though.  So try copying it tomorrow.

Holly

    While eating lunch I was reading notes file (Feline first then SERP)
    in the SERP file, some one is going into business himself. He is an
    artist. Does Wildlife and also mentioned he has contracted to do
    T-Shirts.  Thought maybe someone could talk to him about we would
    like to do.  I would offer but am SERPing out of DEC on the 29th of
    May and they are really keeping me busy here at work.
    
    Info:  Name Dennis Logsdon
           Node is LUDWIG::Logsdon
    
    Barbara

    Me too please.  I personally like the burgunday idea.  But whatever and
    I like my T's extra big too.  I wear a small but usually buy a large.
    More material for the cats to cover with fur! :^)

    BTW, today I've received _2_ copies of the Computer "Meower Power"
    picture!
    
    Thanx!
    
    K.C.
    
    P.S.  Lynne...have you received mine yet?

    Waaahhh.  I wanna copy of the picture.   waaaaaahhhh
    

You can copy the file again.  It should work.

ayrpln::disk$user2:[taylor]cat_shirt.ps;

If AYRPLN doesn't work, try eith PANAM or NTHWST.

Holly

    Hm.  Can we raise the cat's IQ about 50 points? :-)
    

    The picture is cute but I would prefer a more realistic looking cat
    if given a choice.  Also, the little tell-tale rectangular logo needs 
    to be removed from the terminal.  The only other thing I would suggest 
    is to move the Meower Power!! closed to the picture or the picture 
    closer to Meower Power.  Seems like a little too much space between.
    
    Jo mentioned some things to me about line drawings that may be valuable
    for us to consider when getting the artwork for this T-shirt. 
    Unfortunately, I'm not able to intelligently repeat those things here.
    Jo, can you tell them what you told me?
    
    Jan

    Re .72
    
    K.C.
    
    No!  I have been driving the mailroom crazy, too!
    
    L-

    I agree with Jan:  The picture is cute, but I would prefer more
    realistic looking cats as well.
    
    Just my $.02.  :^)
    
    --Michelle

    I've copied the file, now how do I view it?
    
    Lori B.
    
    P.S. I have a workstation

    Lori, print it to a postscript printer to view it.
    
    In the kind of line drawing that I was picturing, the texture and
    features of the cat would be drawn in too.  With a cartoon cat, who has
    very few features, we only have a couple of choices about how to
    convert to a t-shirt picture.  We can make the cat have a colored body,
    and put him on a white shirt, or we can just do an outline of his body,
    and then print him on any color t-shirt.  His body color would then be
    filled in with the color of the shirt.
    
    If we stick with a line drawing, I think that there may be a
    significant price savings, one color ink on one color of shirt.  If we
    make the picture mutli-color, we may be talking about lots more money.
    
    I think that the picture is very cute.  My only suggestion would be to
    move the cat over a bit, so that his paw isn't hanging in the air. :')
    
    Jo

	Also, to view it on a workstation, you should be able to use the
	following command (assuming V5.3+, I think):

	view/interface=decwindows/format=ps cat_tshirt.ps

    re: .81
    
    Thanks, that worked great.  I was also able to view it on DECwrite.
    
    Very cute Holly!
    
    Lori B.

    Ultrix folk can view with dxpsview cat_shirt.ps
    Do any of the shirt design folk have a copy of the Hep Cat catalog? 
    They have great cats drawn on their tshirts.  I especially like the one
    on the The Cat was Allergic so We Gave Away the Kids.
    

    p.s. adding an additional color is not a huge price hit.  I don't
    remember the details from when we did shirts out here.
    

    Each color would be a $20 silkscreen charge EACH!
    
    1 color - $20
    2 color - $40
    3 color - $60
    
    etc....
    
    I'm sending a test mailing to all of you.  Please let me
    know if you do not get a message from me, and/or if I should
    use another E-mail address for you!  
    
    Lynne
    

    I would also be interested in a T-shirt.

RE: a more realistic cat.

That cat is the only one that I had in an .eps file.  If anyone has
access to any other cat .eps files, please let me know!  I'd be more
than happy to make some different designs!  But I need the files as

And the reason that the cat is so far over is because there's a pool of
milk next to him (.eps file is caled "cat-drinking-milk.eps).
I've covered the pool of milk with a whitebox with no borders (invisible
box).  If anyone has any other .eps files, please let me know where
to access them.

Holly

    If you're getting together an interest list, add me to it.
    
    I'm not particular about color or style, but would probably like a
    large size. I'm small, but like roomy t's.
    
    NancyS

    Re:     Each color would be a $20 silkscreen charge EACH!
            1 color - $20
            2 color - $40
            3 color - $60
    
    Are you saying he quoted $60 a piece for a three color t/sweat shirt?
    He's trying to take you to the cleaners.  We had three colors (red,
    white, yellow) on blue sweatshirts done for somewhere between $20 and $30 a
    sweatshirt.  Time to deal with a different supplier, seems to me.....
                             

    RE: Alternate picture
    
    Lynne SHOULD be getting mine any minute now (hope, hope).  If someone
    could either a) re-draw it better (you know...with some TALENT) or b)
    somehow draw it in the computer...
    
    (Not to toot my own horn, but a couple of people have seen my sketch
    next to the other one, and like mine better.  Now, if people could only
    SEE it...)
    
    K.C.
    
    P.S.  I got my dist. memo!  :^)

    Re .89
    
    NO NO NO!
    
    Each color put on the shirt requires an INDIVIDUAL silkscreen
    to be made.  3 colors means 3 silkscreens at $20 ea = $60...
    
    That would increase the individual cost of the T, as each person
    buying a T would have to pay X plus a share of the silkscreen fee.
    
    example: Say 60 persons want T's.  We are quoted $5 per T plus silkscreen
    charge.  We want 3 colors, so that means each person pays $6 for the T.
    $60 silkscreen charge divided by 60 person order = $1 more per person
    to cover the SC fee....
    
    L-
    

    Cheryl Rawden, 
    
    Send me mail!  I rec'd the memo back as unable to deliver to
    you!
    
    Lynne

    
            The count is in! 
    
                 Drumroll, Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeeeee!!!
    
    1)   Most who chose wanted Regular T's. (the request for X-large was
         almost every T vote, too!)  The second item chosen is Sweatshirts.
         Nightshirts were a faroff third, and LS T's last....
    
    Since I would like one of each, (: and the printer will do both,
    we can offer a choice of either a T, a Sweatshirt or both!
    
    2)   Color - Hmmm.... this could be tough!  1/2 want light/pastel,
     the other 1/2 dark!  (Sorry, half dark, half light not available!(: )
    
            Would everyone settle for A gray or white T w/ burgundy print?
           (I suggest a white Sweatshirt rather than gray.  We can order
           a different color T vs the sweatshirts, if we wish!)
    
    Lynne 
    
     

    I'd be happy with a grey sweatshirt w/burgundy print, size Large.
    

    I am really not fussy on the color but the size has to be at least a 2X
    to be comfortable or a 3X if I'm going to wash it. :-)  If that can't
    be done, I'm afraid you'll have to count me out.
    
    Lori B.

    White/burg. T OK by me!
    
    K.C.

    Grey/burg X Large T for me please.
    
    Lisa.
    

    What is the largest size available?  Can we get 2X or 3X?

    I haven't gotten any mail ! I want a shirt! Any color! Any size (of
    course, except sm or med). I want my Kit T T!
    
    Cheryl
    
    Are  you having an official 'order' form, or just send you mail? And is
    it available in cat sizes?
    
    Cheryl

    Please add me to the list.  I'd like a T-shirt, medium, and white with
    burgandy print sounds fine, but I'll go with other color combinations
    too.
    
    Barbara

    Lynne, our cluster alias changed last week, try SPEZKO::RAWDEN, thanks!
    
    Since Lynne is doing such a nice job coordinating this, lets suggest
    that everyone send her replies rather than cluttering up the notes
    files.  I'm sure we can respect her judgement on the final decision(s). 
    :^)

	Please add me to the list too!  Any color is fine, but I couldn't
	wear anything bigger than a large.

	Sandy :^}

    Please add me to the list, too!  I'm usually read-only, but I love this
    conference!
    
    Thanks,
    Sarah

    The vote is in!  
    
        Royal Blue T's and/or Royal Blue Sweatshirts
    
    
    
    Lynne

    
    The design is still in the rough stage.  A get-together
    will be planned to get a majority vote on it.
    Estimated time for a ready artistic drawing will be
    about 2-3 weeks, so stay tuned....(K.C., I still haven't
    rec'd your sketch..??)
    
    (west coasters will plan a get together to coincide so
    we can get a larger majority type vote! (: )
    
    L-
    
    

    
    I will send out a "Feliner T Order Form" to all on
    the mailing list when we hit the final stages of
    this T project.
    
    L-

    Moi aussi, please.  Large (x if poss) most colours but I'm such a messy
    person - white is not ideal.
    
    Linda

    Me, too, please - possibly for several shirts
     
    Linda

    I have drawn up a new copy (I had sent Lynne my original, and couldn't
    copy it, as it was a pencil sketch...and all of the darkening in the
    world could not get it to copy) and am willing to FAX it to Lynne.
    
    Send me your FAX number via E-mail, ASAP...I will also re I/O it...but
    this time, I've INKED it over, so it WILL copy and WILL be backed up.
    
    K.C. the persistant
    

    It is getting confusing updating both by E-mail and
    here in the notesfile.  
    
    Updates will be by E-mail from now on.  Contact me
    via E-mail to get added on to the "I want a T, too!"
    mailing.  
    
    
    Lynne

    I've modified the computer drawing that I did to accomodate things a
    bit.  The cat is much smaller, it's actually SITTING on the terminal
    (all four paws are on the terminal), the Logo is off of the terminal
    and the "MEOWER POWER!!!" is on the terminal screen.
    
    If you'd like to view it, please copy the following file:
    
    AYRPLN::DISK$USER2:[TAYLOR]CAT_SHIRT2.PS;
    
    If you have any problems, please contact me.
    
    Holly
    

    Holly...please send me hardcopy I/O?  I wanna see!  :^)
    
    Rest of the world...Lynne has FINALLY received both my FAX and the I/O
    copy.  But, I still have a mailable copy.
    
    For those in other areas, representative of their area, who wish to see
    my copy, E-mail me CIVIC::FAHEL, and give me your mailstops...this way,
    everyone can see all the entries!
    
    West coasters, decide on your reps!  :^)
    
    K.C.

    Holly, I like the new design.  Thanks.
    

    Holly..
    
    Great job!  I just copied over the cat_shirt file and printed it out.
    It looks real good.
    
    Mary
    

    Please put me on the mailing list for the T-shirt?
    
    Thanx.
    
    Stella

    Sounds GREAT, add me to the list too...
    
    thanks
    Gloria

    I've been out of the office for a week and I'm just now catching up on
    notes.
    
    * Lynn I haven't gotten any other mail from you.
    
    * I would go for a white XL-T
    
    God, I hate being out and having to catch up on all this stuff but the
    time off was worth it - and my kitties were very happy to have me home.
    
    Giudi

    I have a preliminary drawing ready to be viewed by
    anyone who is interested.  Please contact me offline
    and I will copy you on the drawing.  (hard copy)
    
    West Coasters?  Need your input, too! (:
    
    
    Lynne

Hi all,

Anyone who is interested in seeing K.C.'s sketch on-line can now do so.  I
asked Bill to scan it in for me, and it came out great.

To print out on a postscript printer:

AUKLET::DISK$USER:[MEIER]MEOW.PS

To view using the CDA viewer:

AUKLET::DISK$USER:[MEIER]MEOW.IMG (you need to scroll it a little bit)

Jill

    I like Holly's better.....
    
    (What is that being on the right?  A rat?  :-)
    

    I agree, Holly's was much better.
    
    Lori B.

    
    re: KC's drawing....
    
    I thought it was a cat taking a sh...I mean going to the bathroom.  
    
    Not to put words into KC's mouth, but I think she's offering the idea
    for the t-shirt and would welcome someone duplicating her drawing.
    
    ...Rania
    

    I want one too!!
    
    I am usually a read only noter, but this is something I would really
    enjoy. I would like 2 T's, any color, XL. 
    
    (Something to remember a special aspect of DEC).
    
    Thank,
     M.K.

    
    Please add me to the distribution list for information about the
    t-shirts....  ICEFLO::LEVIN
    
    Thanks,
    Diane
    

    I have just gotten a copy of the "official" concept...
    
    I LOVE IT!!!
    
    K.C.

    I just received a faxed design (don't know who sent it).  I vote for
    this design - one cat on top of a terminal, long-haired kitty next to
    the terminal.  I love it!  Even if this isn't the final choice, I may
    have to make my own t-shirt with this design! Of course, I'll still
    want the "official" T as well.
    
    Thank you! - to whoever sent me the design.  I'll take it with me to
    the cat show next weekend in San Jose if anybody wants to see it.
    
    Michelle

    FYI- The preliminary design of SH cat curled up on terminal, with
    a LH cat on the left w/ it's paw on the mouse, was drawn by me!
    
    I took all the ideas, both drawn and written, and tried to incorporate 
    them into the preliminary drawing.  The cats are generic, (e.g. they
    don't look like a Siamese, or a Persian, or a Korat! (: etc. etc.) 
    1 is just a LH & 1 is a SH!!!!
    
    In order to get this goin':
    There is no "choice" per say.......if there are certain things
    about one of the drawings you like and/or dislike, let me know.
    But, please, in order to move this along????????!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Lynne    
    
    
    

    I love your drawing, Lynne.  I really think it should be the final
    design.
    
    If this drawing is just preliminary, I bet the final design will be
    just goreous!
    
    Best,
    Michelle

         I think you're design is *great*, Lynne!
    
    					- Andrea

    The drawing that showed up in the mail is cuute.  Seems to have the
    best features of the original cat-on-the-terminal and the freehand
    sketch that was in the ps file.
    

Please add me to the mailing list about the T-Shirts.

Thanks,

Karl (A1VAX::) Barth

    Well, I hit a minor wall with the artwork....The person
    who was going to do the "make it pretty/clean up the drawing"
    work is in the hospital for 5 weeks....
    
    Anyone have any graphic artist type friends who would have the
    time/be willing to do the clean up on our drawing?
    
    Lynne
    

    I sent out a "Feliner T" order form Friday via e-mail.  I rec'd
    back many notices of vacation, unable to transfer, unrecognized
    recep. name, etc. etc.  If you did not get my mail, please call
    me (dtn 228-5913) so I can make sure you get an order form.
    And, spread the word! (:
    
    Also, could someone make sure Jan (hip surgery) gets a form?
    
    Lynne

    Oops!
    
    It has been brought to my attention that I didn't have
    any "postage & handling" fee for those who will need their
    T and/or Sweatshirt orders mailed to them.  I will visit
    the local post office and find out what the estimated cost
    would be.
    
    Lynne

    Lynne,
    
    It's Jo Ann who had the hip surgery not me.  Just can't tell us
    apart, hmmmm. ;-)  I'll be sure she sees the form.
    
    Jan

    Oops...blush, blush! (-;
    
    L-

    I saw it, I just can't print it out!!!  If I print it, it will go to
    my office printer and I am sure they won't know what the heck to do
    with it. :')
    
    Jo

    Hi Jo!
    
     If Jan can't get you a copy from work, I'll mail you one! ;-)
    
     Hope your recovery is coming along smoothly!
    
    Love,
    
     Y

    Well, like Murphy's Laws say.....if anything can go wrong it will...
    
    If you need to contact me, use BUSY::MANDILE or dtn 228-5913.
    
    My Boston accounts will not accept any mail sent to them (and
    I find this out AFTER I send out a 50 person E-mail!) and I
    don't know how long it will be 'til they fix the problem....
    
    L-

    I printed out a copy of the order sheet for Jo, and I'll bring it to
    her when I visit her.  
    
    Steffi

    Steffi,
    
    You don't need to worry about this.  I will be at Jo's on Thursday
    and Friday of this week and can make sure she has a copy...unless
    you're planning to be there before that.
    
    Jan

    Jan,
    
     I had a FEELING you were still out there, and had planned to bring an
    order form to Jo! ;-) 
    
     Now I just have to get mine in the mail with a check! Lynne - The
    check's in the mail! 8-0
    
     Actually, it will be in this afternoon's mail! ;-)
    
    Y

    A Feliner suggested that anyone (U.S. area) that will have
    their order mailed to them, just add $3-4 per item.  If that's
    ok, please do so.....(I will, of course, return any over-payment
    to the individual! (: )
    
    BTW, I rec'd the first order form already!  (-;
    
    FYI- I'm on vacation next week.....
    
    Steffi/Jan - say Hi to Jo for me!
    
    
    L- 

    Just a reminder to those interested in a T....
    
    I cannot pay the artist until I receive sufficient orders
    to cover the fee, and only 9 have been rec'd so far out of
    over 50 interested parties.  The artist is ready to start
    anytime, so please send me your order form w/payment asap....
    
    Lynne

    My check and order form is ready, except I haven't put a stamp on it!
    It's sitting on my table, and has been for about 3 weeks! Sorry! Will
    make a SPECIAL effort to get it out today!
    
    Cheryl

    My check and order form went out today.  Sorry it took so long!
    
    Michelle

    Which relpy are the ordering details in? I listed all 146 odd replies
    to this topic but could not find a one that was appropriately titled.
    
    Are there any options other than regular old mail to getting a T or 2
    over here to Germany. Maybe I could pay, and then wait for one of my
    co-workers to make a trip...  Hmmmmm.
    
    Scott

    Are sweatshirts going to be available?
    

    re .148
    
    You have a choice of a T and/or a Sweatshirt.  (Buy more than
    one!  We need the $$$! (; )
    
    Did you get an order form?
    
    L-

    Yes, but I see I got confused by the example in it and thought it was
    just for tshirts.  I'll send along my order by snail mail.
    

          I WANT SOME!   
    
          Can I get an order form?   Who do I contact?   I hadn't followed
    this note while I was on vaca., and to save reading thru 150
    replies......
    
          thanx, Denise

    Slowly, but (hopefully) surely, we are getting there!
    
    About 15 Feliners have sent in their orders.....So, where are
    the other 35+ who thought this was a great idea?????
    
    Come on, fill out that form and get that check in the mail!!!!
    Or, if it helps,  Lynne Mandile  FXO-8/246....
    
    WHINE!  I have done a lot of work on this, so I would hate
    to have to drop the whole project!!!  sniff, sniff, whimper (;
    
    L-

    
      I lost my original order form. I need to send in the aditional $$
    for delivery. Can I get another? Or can you post that address here?
    
    M.K.

    Well, I have to admit that I'm one of the slackers here.  I
    printed the form and promised to take it to Jo Ann.  Put 2 copies
    of it in my briefcase and I'm still trying to remember to take
    it out of there.  Things have bit a bit crazy (personally and
    work-wise) but I promise get this taken care of within the week.
    (I'm on vacation 7/16 thur 7/19.)
               
    Jan
    
    P.S. What were we supposed to do about shipping charges?  One more time
         for those of us that still haven't gotten it.  ;-)
    

    shipping charges -- add $3 or $4 Lynne told me (per shirt? per package?)
    

    Re .154/.155  Per shirt!
    
    (-;
    
    One of our noters sent me his order in from the Nederlands!
    
    He also sent me a copy of his cat club's book, which is
    Maine Coons!  Wonderful pictures, but the book isn't in english! (-;
    
    L-

    
            mine is in the mail already!  (really)  However the order
    form didn't mention additional charges.....are there some?
    
            Denise

    I forgot about shipping charges, for those who are not local....
    It was suggested that $3-4 be added per item....
    
    Lynne

    Current order count is running at about 50% of the actual
    sign-up.  
    
    To cover the cost of the artist, that would mean another
    $2 per item.  (we have 40 T's/SS's so far....)
    
    Any suggestions on where to go from here?  Asking for $2
    more from everyone per item is embarrassing! )-8
    
    Lynne

    
    
    	Sorry Lynne,  I have my form right here, all filled out
    	but keep forgetting to send it!
    
    	JJ
    

    Lynne,
    
    If you need a few extra dollars per person, I don't have a problem with
    that. But hopefully we won't have to do that! (Don't be embarrassed!
    Kitty litter happens!! ;^)
    
    Cheryl

    Lynne,
    
     I'm willing to put in a few more bucks too. The price was VERY
    reasonable to begin with! Like was stated in -.1 "kitty litter
    happens!" I love that saying! ;-)
    
    Love,
     Y 

    It's about time to set a deadline for orders, I think.  Then you can
    figure out what extra is needed based on the orders you have and post a
    note.
    

       =======>	  Deadlines, yuck!  But, you are right!
    
    O.K. This is it, fellow Feliners.....
    
           ***      JULY 29th is the deadline     ***
    
    Write it up now, go mooch a stamp off someone, and get that order
    in the mail, now!!!!!
    
    Lynne

    I still havent' seen an order form, but would like to get a shirt.
    Maybe if Jan hasn't sent her order yet I could tack mine onto hers.
    
    Jo

    Geeze, Jo! I was really only kidding when I said I would mail you one
    from Mass., but maybe I SHOULD have! ;-)
    
    Somebody get this girl an order form! Jan, are you listening? ;-)
    
    Y

	Do I really have to fill out a hard-copy form and send it.......

	.........from the UK to the US. Can I order electronically?

	Heather

    Yes!  But, how are you going to include the check? (;

    Okay, okay, I'm mailing her the form today...honest.
    
    I won't actual get to see her till some time next week so this will
    be the fastest way.  I hope.  Or, if money allows, I'll take her order
    by phone and white the check for both of us then have her reimburse
    me later.  Well, see what works best.  I'll be out of town (in Dallas,
    TX) this Sat. through next Wed. so I may be a little behind the
    deadline if I can't get this worked out today.
    
    Jan

    Jan-
    
    I'll be in Dallas, TX in about 2 weeks....
    
    L-

    Too bad it wasn't going to be this week.  I'd just hand carry the
    order to you.
    
    Jan

    I have rec'd the first draft of the artist's clean-up task....
    Looking good!  (;
    If all goes well, we should be able to have the T's/sweatshirts
    by mid-Sept.
    
    (I am shooting for NDC's next party tentitively scheduled for
    the 12/13th of Sept.  Or, I would plan a get-together maybe at
    a centralized location as soon as they are ready...will advise...)
    
    FYI - I will be cashing the checks (finally!) (This is just to let
    you know, as I have been sitting on some of them for quite a while!)
    
    Re: Shipping costs - If you haven't already, or won't/can't make it
    to the T-party (;, an extra $2-3 per item for shipping would be needed.
    
    Lynne

So, if we're local and can pick up the shirts, we just pay the $7 or whatever,
right??

The check's in the mail!

Mary

    And if we've been totally overwhelmed with stuff and haven't sent our
    order in yet, is there still hope?
    
    Jan

    Yes, there is still time to order!!! (;
    
    Lynne

    
             so does that mean if we go to the party and pick them up, we
    dont' need to send in the additional money?
    
             Denise

    Yes!
    
    

      WHERE'S THE PARTY?
    

    
    I go tomorrow to place our T/SS order!!!!!   HOORAY!!!!!!!!
    
    If you didn't send in your order, you now have missed out! ):
    
    I will post the delivery date after I talk to the store.....
    
    I am still shooting for mid-Sept delivery, to coincide with
    the feliner's party at NDC's, or at least have one arranged
    for T/SS distribution....
    
    Lynne

    Well, pending any hurricanes (: or other natural disasters,
    I should have our T's/Sweatshirts by this weekend!
    
    So....do we plan a get together next week to have a "get kit "T"
    shirt party"?  (;
    
    Lynne

    Anyone with a clean house want to host a party so Lynne can hand out
    t-shirts?  Let's have one tomorrow night - I've still got leftover
    noodles. :^)

    I would certainly have it at my place, if the drive
    wasn't such a long way for everybody.....(Rte 495S, exit 
    4....pretty close to the Cape!)  I do have a big enough
    back yard and I'd even clean the house! (;
    It's about a 45 min drive from Marlboro exit 24 (Rte 20).
    I have a pool (brrrrr...(: ), and will provide cat treats
    and carrots for anyone who wants to feed the 6 cats, the
    rabbit or the horses! (: (: 
    
    Lynne

    Lynne,
    
     It's about the same distance time wise as going to Braintree, so I'd
    certainly be willing to come to your house and meet all your critters!
    
    Yonee

    I won't be able to make it this weekend because I already have
    plans with the hubby who I have totally ignored for the last
    three weekends doing shelter stuff!!
       
    Sandy

    Well, actually, this Saturday, I also have plans. But Sunday might be
    all right! ;-)
    
    Yonee

    Er...I was thinking of some night during next week! (;

    Well, as long as it's not Monday or Thursday, I could make it! Monday's
    I bowl, and Thursday is my night at the shelter.
    
    Yonee

    Ok....so it IS too far!
    
    Anyone have any input on a good place to have an after work
    party in the Marlboro area?   Tues or Weds next week?
    
    Lynne

    Spags parking lot.  :^)

    Where's Spags in Marlboro?
    
    L

    Cheryl,
    
     If you hadn't put that in about Spag's I was going to say that Spag's
    is a place we can be sure Cheryl will show up! ;-)
    
     Only it's not in Marlboro! It's in Shrewsbury. Are we talking
    someone's house, or a restaurant here? I live in Hudson, and would be
    willing to have people over my place, if you don't mind being a little
    cramped. I live in a mobile home, but it has a good sized living room
    and kitchen dining room area, plus a good sized porch/room. My
    mother-in-law goes to bed early, but she's deaf as a post when she
    takes out her hearing aid, so noise would not be a problem.
    
     Let me know if this is something people would like, and I'll make up
    some directions. There are quite a few turns, but most of them are dead
    ends if you miss them! ;-)
    
     Yonee

    Isn't Hudson next to Marlboro?

    Yeah, Hudson & Marlboro are close by although still a hike for some of
    us New Hampshire people.....  I was just joking about Spags.  I mean,
    doesn't everyone shop there now and then?  

    Hmmm, I do need a Spags fix.  What day you having this get together
    again?  If it's at Yon's, I've go to go and serenade Nick.  :^)

    Due to some idiot who shipped the wrong T's to my
    supplier Monday, the T's have been delayed about 
    a week. ): ):  
    
    Lynne 
    

    Lynne,
    
    Oh nooooooo.  The last chance for me to get the shirts and give them to
    Lisa is 9/30.  On 10/1, we are all leaving for the Grand Canyon. 
    She'll fly back to the UK from Las Vegas after out trip.
    
    Steffi

    Better late than never, I suppose......T's are supposed to be
    ready tomorrow (paws crossed-I'm not getting too excited this
    time, tho'.  I'll believe it when I have 'em in my lil hands!)
    
    L

    Well, I'm the first kid on the block to see and have the Feliner T. 
    The T's for Lisa and I arrived via Airborne this morning.  They look
    great.
    
    Thanks Lynne, for all your efforts.
    
    Steffi

    
                  T H E Y   A R E  H E R E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Yeah!  Hurrah!       Sheesh,  Lynne, it's about time!!! (;
    
    
     (and, if I do say so myself, they look pretty sharp! (: )
    
    They start going out in the mail Friday.....for those who
    didn't include shipping (you know who you are!) contact me
    to make arrangements for shipment....
    
    
    Lynne

    Lynne,
    
    I did include shipping in my check, but I still haven't seen my shirt.
    Did they actually go out last Friday?  Or is the mail just really slow?
    
    It shouldn't cost more than $2.90 for anything less than 2lbs even for
    priority first-class mail since the post office is having a special
    this year.  First-class normally doesn't take that long, even cross
    country, does it?
    
    Michelle

    First class cross country can take 8 days or so.  Mine is still in the
    mail some place.
    

    My shirts are here! My shirts are here! The only problem is, I'M STILL
    AT WORK!!!!! ARGH!!! I want to go home right now and see them! :-( I
    sort of wish Nick hadn't just called me to tell me a package arrived
    from Middleboro!
    
    Great start for my weekend though! 8-)
    
    I really just wanted to announce that mine did arrive!
    
    Thanks again for all your hard work Lynne!
    
    Love,
    
     Yonee
               

    FYI-
    
    I shipped very few orders via mail because I would not be able
    to replace them if the post office "lost" them.  Most went out
    via UPS.  I am still holding 5 packages for ransom (ransom=shipping
    fee! (: ), so contact me offline to make shipping arrangements!!!!
    
    Lynne

    I'm glad everyone likes their T's/Sweatshirts!   Thanks for letting
    me know that you got them, too!
    
    There are a few extra (1 large and 1 X-Large, I think!) in case
    anyone else is interested!
    
    Lynne

    I had to add my thanks too. I rushed home yesterday to change clothes
    to get to a class. I found a package on the front step and was thrilled
    with what I found inside. I wore the sweatshirt to my class, staight
    out of the package. I just couldn't wait.
    
    NancyS

    Waiting and hoping every time I get home -- anyone on the West Coast
    gotten theirs yet?
    

    Yup.  Mine came yesterday.  (Irvine, Ca.)  They're wonderful.

    Hey, not bad.....5 days to the West Coast via UPS! (they quoted 7-10)

    
    They haven't reached San Francisco yet.  There seems to be a consistent
    delay in deliveries in this area... :'(
    
    
    

    They haven't reached Fresno yet either. |^(

    
    What I currently have as extra's:
    
       2 - XX-large T's
       1 - X-large T's
       2 - Large T's
    
    
    
    Lynne

    wherez mine, o post office.....
    

    
    re: .211  sitting next to mine....
    
    
    

    Thanks for organising the Ts Lynne! Mine looks great!!!!! I must have
    been keen - travelling all the way to San Francisco *just* to get
    my T ;-) Took a bit of a holiday while I was there ... nice place :-)
    
    Lisa.

    
    All the extra T's have been spoken for!  
    
    (I'm glad, because I had to pay for them!  They were extra due
    to cancellations after printing started)
    
    BTW, does anyone know Patti Rivetts?  I cannot contact her, and
    I have her order!
    
    Lynne

    Also, can somene contact Jill Meier, too?  I have her order!
    
    L

    I'll send you Jill's phone number off line.
    
    signed,
    
    still waiting at my front door
    

    
    I recevied a UPS notice yesterday and walked out of the door this a.m.
    forgetting to sign the form and leave it on the door.  At least I know 
    that it made it to SF! :'D
    
    

    Yes! Mine came Friday.  Let's do this again :-)
    

    AGAIN?..........
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                            THUD!

    I got mine Friday too!  Great job!!!   8^)
    

The sound heard in 260.119 is the sound of Lynne doing a face plant onto
her keyboard....

    More T's went out yesterday and today.  All went 2 day
    priority mail, so there should be some surprises in tomorrow
    and Saturday's mail! (;
    
    Lynne

Oh, I can't wait!!  You know, the funniest thing happened last night---I was
going thru some drawers trying to see what was what and I came across a very
old t-shirt that I got in Houston ages ago at a Houston Oilers football game.
It's a blue t-shirt and it has emblazed on it "Love Ya, Blue!" (blue and white
are the team colours).  I slept in it....

    Hi!
    
     I just wanted to let Lynne and everyone else know, that I wear my
    sweatshirts and T-shirts all the time, and I get tons of compliments on
    how cute they are!
    
     I love being able to tell people they can't get them, because it's an
    'exclusive' design! ;-)
    
     I actually do belong to a bowling league called The Alley Cats, and I
    wear my T-shirts a lot on those nights! 
    
    Yonee
    

    
      I still have 1 T-Shirt in XX-large left.......many wanted it,
    but no one sent the $$$ for it.
    
    Anyone interested? $11  ($7 + $3 to mail it)
    
    (it could be picked up at LKG/Littleton Ma or along 495S as I go that
    way home - you could save the $3 that way)
    
    Lynne  (DELNI::MANDILE) 

    Lynne,
    
     If no one has laid claim to the T-shirt, I have a friend who would
    love it! Gee! We could meet for pizza again! ;-)
    
     Let me know. BTW, this girl's hubby is an ex DECcie, so it would still
    be in the DEC Family. ;-) She loves mine.
    
     I can have the check in the mail to you tomorrow if the shirt is still
    available.
    
    
    Yonee
    

    Folks,
    
    I was a lucky UK noter who managed to obtain one of these sweat-shirts
    thanks to a now ex-deccie.
    
    Due to wearing it so much, mine is now very much the worse for
    wear and I'd dearly like to replace it.
    
    If all else fails, does anyone still have access to the art-work
    which might allow me to have it re-printed over here - costs 
    permitting ?
    
    All ideas and suggestions gratefully recieved.
    
    Judy
    

    Mine is on the ropes also.  Who has the artwork, anyone know?  I had
    some tshirts printed up for a Dec group several years ago, so I
    more or less know the ropes and would handle getting reprints if we
    can find the artwork and enough people wanted tshirts and or
    sweatshirts.  Or maybe also those long tshirts that are used as nightgowns.
    

Just an idea, if someone has the graphics on the computer.  I see that Staples
sells (iron on) transfer paper to make iron on transfers from any graphic
printed by an ink jet printer.  The sheets are about $1.50 each.

Laura

    Some grubbing thru notes seems to indicate that Lynne Mandile handled
    the order (okay, I didn't read all .229 replies, so maybe she
    didn't handle the artwork :-) and that she left in about 1994.  I'll
    look thru my (now defunct) offline feliner's newsletter address
    listings tonight and see if I have her address and phone number
    (or maybe someone else does)?  Worst case, personnel might forward
    a message to her to ask her to call one of us.
    

    
    re .228
    
    >Or maybe also those long tshirts that are used as nightgowns.
    
    Uhm, some of us catlovers don't wear "nightgowns"...
    
    len.
    

>    Uhm, some of us catlovers don't wear "nightgowns"...
    
 But plenty of people wear long nightshirts...men and women!!



And many people wear nothing at all, so maybe they should just get the artwork
tattooed instead???

Sorry...couldn't resist :-)

laura    

>    Uhm, some of us catlovers don't wear "nightgowns"...

Some of us just wear our kitties.  :-) 
Knuffies convinced me her main nocturnal role is 
as a tunny button warmer (or a hat) :-)   and Lucy 
does my feet and Belle does my chest... 


>And many people wear nothing at all, so maybe they should just get the artwork
>tattooed instead???

Well, I don't know about the artwork, but I've a portrait of Belle 
free-hand tattooed on my right hip,  done from a photo of her with 
me pointing out finer points (like her eyes look a little greener 
than in the photo).   It took 2 hours, I nearly passed out twice
but I'm incredibly proud of it and it's a great portrait of her
and it got me filmed at the Phoenix festival about half a dozen 
times last year :-) (not to mention the getting to know you 
lines it makes for..)

I just wonder at the day she goes missing and having lost 
all my photos I have to wander door to door asking if anyones 
seen the cat from my leg. 

:-) 

    
    8^)))
    

    >Knuffies convinced me her main nocturnal role is
    >as a tunny button warmer (or a hat) :-)   and Lucy
    
    just to rat hole this a bit further, has anyone see the new cat food 
    commercials on TV about all the jobs a cat has?
    
    Paperweight (cat sitting on papers)
    Comforter  (cat sitting on napping human)
    
    There are about 5 of these "jobs". I can't remember the others because
    I start laughing hysterically when everytime it comes on.
    
    Deb
    

    Masseuse (cat kneading human)
    Bookend (cat on bookshelf)
    Alarm Clock (cat waking human)
    Babysitter (cat entertaining child)
    
    I love those commercials.
    
    Jan

    How could I have forgotten Alarm Clock!!!
    
    Deb

    "Therapist" (cat sitting on top of couch listening to
                 human laying on couch)

    I called Lynn and she couldn't remember offhand which place had
    done the previous shirts, or if they would still have the artwork.
    Looking back thru the notes here, I am guessing it might be Just Cats,
    so I've dropped her a note.  She says hello to everyone (she was
    mucking out the barn when I called :-) and says she is up to
    one baby and nine cats.
    

    I never succeeded to get one. If there shall be a reprise, I also need
    two.
    Nat

    
    I'd like one (maybe two) too.
    
    len.
    

    Lynn can't find the artwork.  Looking back in this thread, it
    occurred to me that maybe Holly has a copy, so I'll drop her a line.
    

    If we can't find one of the original drawings, would it be
    possible to copy/scan the picture from a shirt and then 
    tidy it up using one of the many PC packages that are
    around ?
    
    Not being a PC type, I don't know what is/isn't realisticaly
    possible.
    
    I just though that a contingency plan wouldn't be a bad idea 
    should a clean copy of the picture not be available.
    
    Judy

    I have my old shirt (threadbare) tucked away, if it comes to that.  I
    don't know about the scanning stuff.  We have one defunct scanner
    here but it's smaller than the design as I recall, so besides
    cleaning up the image, it would require merging two images if
    this is a typical scanner.  Hopefully Holly has the file...
    

    Sorry ... I don't have a copy of the original design either.  I had
    created one, but we decided on a different one. 
    
    We could always come up with a new design.
    
    Holly
    

    Holly. I didn't realize you were still here.  Who did the
    cats on the terminal, wasn't that you?
    

    Folks,
    
    A collegue thinks that he might be able to scan in the image
    from my shirt, tidy it up and produce a clean enough copy for
    the printers.
    
    Apparently he's done this before, and is prepapred to lend us
    some of his time to try again.
    
    The draw back is that he's away on business shortly, so will be
    unable to attempt anything until mid March.
    
    Bearing in mind that I'm in the UK, shall I ask him to have a go ?
    
    Is there anyone over in the US who would be prepared to pick
    up the art-work and then arrange for shirts etc ?
    
    I'm not being idle - it just appears to me that as there are more
    US feliners interested than UK/Europeans it should be logistically
    easier (and hopefully cheaper) this way.
    
    What do folks think ?
    
    Judy
    

    Karen,
    
    would it be possible to photocopy the design from your shirt and then
    scan the photocopy. And from there someone could do somthing to enhance
    it if need be?
    
    Deb 

    Well...since my husband is in the silk screening business, I'd
    like to suggest the following.  I'm so busy with all my cat 
    stuff..work..and volunteering that I don't have the extra time
    to take this on all by myself...BUT how about:
    
      Ernie and I will work on enhancing the original design,
      getting the prices (we should be able to get a decent price)
      ...printing the Tshirts. 
    
      Someone else can take the responsibility of working with the
      notesfile to determine how many we need and do all the mailing
      of the Tshirts. 
    
     What do you think????  
    
     Sandy   

    
    It should be possible to scan from a shirt in good condition on a
    flatbed scanner (the kind that can scan a full size sheet of paper
    without "feeding" it into the device); many office supply places offer
    flatbed scanning services for a modest fee.
    
    len.

    Sandy, I'll take the responsibility of taking orders, sending out
    shirts, etc.
    
    Holly
    

    Oh .. and Karen... yes, I did the design of the cat sitting on top of
    the terminal.  But I don't believe that was the design that was picked.
    
    If you want that, I can re-design it with no problem.
    
    Or maybe we want a whole new design for the new shirts??
    
    Holly
    

    Sandy, can we have sweatshirts also?  Maybe one of the colors could
    be medium or dark blue
    to hide those extra pounds :-)  I'm also wondering, I've noticed that
    some sweatshirts wear well, and others shrink and get scratchy in no
    time - is that a function of 100% cotton vs cotton + poly maybe?
    
    I have the offline feliners newsletter address list, so once we
    decide on what will be available, I can send out a mailing to
    that list.  I'll ask them to reply either to me or to Holly, whichever
    Holly prefers.  So that will probably be a 2-3 week cycle with the
    two mailings.
    

    Holly...thanks for offering.  It will work well since we are
    both from Fitchburg!!!
    
    Karen....I'll talk to the hubby this weekend and see what will
    be available. (Tshirts/sweatshirts)  Ernie is a perfectionist...
    so I can guarentee the quality of the job will be there.
    
    I prefer NOT to get 100% cotton....because they do shrink no
    matter what you do.
    
    I'll post a note on Monday...
    
    Sandy 

    Re: .254
    
    You're right about the cotton.  I called Land's End, which makes
    the really sturdy Digital logo sweatshirts (I have two that still
    look new after 2-3 years), and they said theirs are an 80% cotton,
    20% poly blend, heavyweight 10.4 ounces per yard.
                      

Any chance of the logo/design going on line somewhere? 

I can happily offer space on the kittyzone for it.

I for one have so many t-shirts and sweatshirts that I 
just can't justify any more unless it's better than
/will be more worn than one of my current top 20 :-) 
and in fact was having a conversation about just this 
at the weekend.  So clearly I want to know what I'm ordering 
before doing so .. or something like that. 

    Folks,
    
    My friend has scanned in the logo from my sweatshirt.  
    In his opinion it will need a lot of tidying up before 
    it can be used for a rerun.  
    What he is recommending - and offering to do - is re-draw 
    the artwork, based on the scanned image.
    
    The result would be something very similar, but not
    identical.
    
    We can then vote on whether or not the result is acceptable
    - or maybe someone with the right skills and tools can 
    tweek it to meet suit.
    
    How do other people feel about this ?  
    
    Judy

    I'm getting confused about who's doing what...  Is Sandy
    separately working on t/sweatshirts?
    

    I had offered my husbands services...but he has been pretty
    busy lately so hasn't accomplished anything.   If someone else
    wants to do the artwork...that is okay by me.
    
    Sandy 

    Judy, sounds good to me,
    
    Karen
    

    Folks,

    Apologies if I've upset or bewildered anyone.

    I had no intention of confusing anyone (except possibly myself)
    I thought we were missing the original design.

    Is someone else providing a design from which to work ?
    If so, then please carry on.  Our work over here won't be
    wasted and no one will be offened.
    
    Just so I don't step on anyones toes can we have a brief
    list of who is offering what.

	eg Producing Design
	   Producing Artwork
           Taking orders etc etc etc...........
   
     Kind regards and purrs to everyone
    
     Judy
    

    My thoughts..
    
    I have the original shirt still...I was going to ask my husband
    to attempt to create the artwork from the shirt and touch it
    up a bit.  That way we won't get charged with the artwork fee.
    
    Holly was going to get a listing of how many shirts/sweatshirts
    we would need.   Based on that info...I would have my husband
    boss price what each shirt would cost us.  (the more we order...
    the less the price per shirt)   Then if everyone agrees with
    the cost...my husband would do the printing and we would deliver
    the shirts to Holly.   Holly then would be responsible for collecting 
    the money and delivering/mailing the shirts to everyone.  I'm sure
    the cost will be the price of the shirt..as well as mailing fees!
    
    Now..my only issue is my husband is VERY busy at work right now...
    and will do this in his spare time.  So if anyone is in a real
    hurry for the shirts...I have no problem letting them be responsible
    for all of the above!!   Believe me...it wouldn't hurt my feelings
    at all because if you read my original note....I was hesitant to
    take this on because we have very limited "free" time!!!  (my
    14 cats, my rescue work and my shelter work...take up all my
    spare time)
    
    So just let me know if you want me to pursue this!!!
    
    Sandy 

    I haven't said anything before this, but I would very much like to get
    some of the finished product - when finished.
    
    thanks!
    
    janetb.