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Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

858.0. "Help: Cat always hungry" by GVA02::TARBAY () Wed Feb 15 1995 04:23

    
    
    
I have a 10 year old, female, spayed cat who has recently developed
a HUGE appetite.

Except for the last 3 months, she has been a nibbler.  She RARELY
ever finished her food at one sitting. Since the other cat I have
is a gobbler, I would take her food when she walked away and would
give it back when she "asked" by a special meow she has that means
"I'm hungry".   I explain this, because for the last 2 months
she has been using this "I'm hungry" cry A LOT!!.   The problem
started with her finishing her food in one sitting.   Then She would
finish her food, and try to eat the other cats food.   Then she
would finish her food and immediately "ask" for more.

Where I am now:  she is constantly whining for more food.  If
I even go near where she eats she runs over and is frantically asking
to be fed.     Even after feeding, she acts like she is starving.
For 2 weeks, she has woken me up in the middle of the night with
a very loud WAIL>  it is really heart breaking... it is her
loud constant "I'm hungry" cry, made over and over.  I have gotten
up and given her attention, but as soon as I stopped petting her
she ran to her dish and asked to be fed.

I did take her to the vet, who gave her a physical. (no blood or urine test)
The vet felt her organs and the area around her throat and said
everything felt ok and to just watch her.   I did move house in
middle of January, so I have a new vet.  The problem started before the
move but the vet said that she probably is just not adjusted to
the move.  I do not think it is move related 

She is not gaining or losing weight.  Is an indoor only cat  ( I live on the 
10th floor) and she looks fine.  She doesn't seem to be drinking more than 
usual but I keep several bowls of water around so it is hard to see who is 
drinking and how much.   She is just not acting like her sweet
self that she was for 9.75 years.   I have another appointment
in 1 week for the vet.  I would appreciate it if anyone has ideas
on the problem.  I appologize for the length of this but wanted to give the
details.

thanks for listening.
    
    David
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858.1USCTR1::MERRITT_SKitty CityWed Feb 15 1995 07:508
    I would have them check her stools for parasites..and possibly
    also have a thyroid test done.   I know both of these two things
    cause a cat to be starving all the time...
    
    
    Good luck...and keep us posted!!
    
    Sandy
858.2Do have the thyroid check done tooHYDRA::WHITMOREWed Feb 15 1995 13:145
    Do please have her thyroid level checked.  Its a blood test, no big
    deal.  Sounds like hyperactive thyroid to me, all else being equal -
    she's about the right age for it.
    
    Dana
858.3DEMON::AIKEYThu Feb 16 1995 08:2513
    Hi David
    
    I agree with the others..  Also you might want to have her checked for
    Diabetes (sp?).   I had a siamese that was 19 and she started doing the
    same thing..  If I moved she was up and running crying to be fed.  No
    matter if I had only fed her 5 minutes before she would still cry...  
    
    Please keep us posted and my prayers go out to you...
    
    
    *joyce
    
    
858.4Good suggestions - will ask vetGVA02::TARBAYThu Feb 16 1995 09:0514
    Thanks all for the suggestions.
    
    I'll suggest diabetes and thyroid to the vet (I had been thinking
    diabetes, thyroid was a new option - thank you!). Maybe with 1 blood 
    test we can get to the bottom of this. And last week the vet scraped
    her teeth!
    
    We're seeing the vet again next week, so  I won't have an update until
    after that. 
    
    Cheers,
    David
    
    -What would be really great is a 'family vet' CD for cats! 
858.5HELIX::SKALTSISDebThu Feb 16 1995 12:599
    re:  -1
    
    >  -What would be really great is a 'family vet' CD for cats! 
    
    
    Well, Merck's puts their vet manual on CD for $29 ...
    
    Deb
    
858.6Could be thyroidLJSRV1::MARXMon Feb 20 1995 14:0811
    Two years ago my 12 yr. old cat began to lose the fur around her hind
    quarters, lose a significant amount of weight and eat much more.  I
    took her to the vet and found out that she has an enlarged thyroid. 
    I've had her on Tapazole (people thyroid medication) ever since.  She
    takes 2 pills a day.  Amazingly, her fur grew back and she gained
    weight nicely.  She still eats a lot, but the problem is under control. 
    My vet determined the problem by doing a blood test as well as feeling
    the thyroid.  If this is what's wrong with your kitty, it is
    controllable.
    
    
858.7UpdateGVA02::TARBAYThu Mar 09 1995 07:1224
    Well, we got the vet results: Negative for diabetes, liver, kidney.
    Thyroid is not enlarged. 
    
    possibilities: worms (even though an indoor cat) or an underactive pancreas.
    The pancreas is suspected since she's eating more, but not gaining
    weight, and some stools are greyish. This could be malabsorbsion of
    protiens. The vet says he does not have a test for feline pancreas (in
    Switzerland), so he must see what helps.
    
    She's just finished the worm pills, and has started on a general
    digestive pill. The pancreas pills are on order.
    
    The good news is, Gwen is less hungry after 2 days of pills. Could be
    the worm medicine, could be the digestive, could  be the trauma from 
    the blood sample. 
    
    I've proposed to the vet that we wait a week before we start the
    prostate pills. At this point, if her hunger and behavior goes back to
    normal, I want to see if it was the worms or the digestive pills. 
    
    Thanks again,
    David
    
    - I'll try to order the CD!
858.8fingers and paws are crossed....DEMON::AIKEYWed Mar 15 1995 15:106
    
    David - Thanks for the update...  We will keep our fingers and paws
    crossed that all works out for the best....
    
    *joyce,shilo,and oliver
    
858.9Update - ideas?GVA02::TARBAYThu Mar 23 1995 10:0740
I wanted to give another brief update on Gwen:

While taking the Metronedazole (sp) for anaerobic bacteria
in her stomache, she seemed somewhat less hungry but much more
than usual.
That medicine stopped on friday and by last night she was much worse.
She is wailing for food every couple of hours.  This
morning she seemed very agitated, running to her dish and
licking her food, then going to the waterdish and licking
the water and back and forth.  Her drinking has also increased
(including drinking from the Toilet, which she has NEVER done)
The vet does not seem concerned by the increased thirst as he
said this could just be a consequence of her eating more
and needing something to wash it down.

More alarming is she is losing weight, even though her
food intake is dramatically increased.   

The vet examined another stool sample and says it does
not have the characteristics of a pancreatic problem.
(though he says there is no definative test for a cat)

I have another appointment on saturday for an examination
and another bloodtest.  If these values come out negative
then he said they could do extensive (and expensive)
tests for the Hypothalmus.

I really feel he doesn't know what to do and is shooting
in the dark.  (try this, try that etc)

Does anyone know if there is a test for the pancreas function?
I would appreciate any other ideas of what to do.  
Gwen was such a sweet natured cat and now she is
quite miserable)

many thanks
David

    
858.10Your cat sounds so familiar to what happened to me ...HELIX::SKALTSISDebThu Mar 23 1995 10:5216
    well, I was acting like that for months when I became hyperthyroid
    (except for drinking out of the toilet) . And even though blood tests would 
    have shown I was hyperthyroid (had they been done), my thyroid didn't seem
    enlarged for months (until I started having a thyroid storm and went into
    thyrotoxic crisis). I kept being told I had the flu and to rest.
    
    Did the vet do a T3/T4 uptake or a TSH, or did he just check the neck
    to see if he felt a goiter, and when he didn't feel anything, decided
    it couldn't have been the thyroid thus didn't do the tests? 
    
    Is there a vet school near where you live that you can get a referal
    to? Or is there another vet in the area that maybe you could bring your
    cat to for a "second opinion?
    
    Good luck,
    Deb
858.11I guess Zoe takes after me!HELIX::SKALTSISDebTue Apr 04 1995 21:018
    For what it is worth, I had my 15 year old Zoe tested on Saturday. They
    did a  T3/T4 uptake. The T4 results were back today and she is
    definatly hyperthyroid. (9.0 on a normal range of 1.7-3.0).
    
    The vet is waiting until we get the T3 results to decide how to
    definatly treat it.
    
    Deb
858.12BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 21:3513

	Well, we cured the KD of her pigginess. And we did it by accident. My
roomate took his cat to be fixed, and the vet said it might be better to feed
them dry food for their teeth. We switched to that and she doesn't run over,
gobble all of her food, and then gobble Isis' food as well. She eats a little
bit all through the day. She has lost some weight, but has stablized at 6.5 lbs
At one point she was up to 7.5 lbs. It's weird, just losing a lb and she is is
MUCH thinner. AND, when we feed her wet food on Sundays, she doesn't gobble it
all down. She makes it last all day. 


Glen