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Title:Meower Power - Where Differing Opinions are Respected
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Moderator:JULIET::CORDES_JA
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1079
Total number of notes:28858

766.0. "Bordatella appearing in cats now. " by STOWOA::FALLON (Moonsta Cattery) Fri May 27 1994 13:12

    Just in case any of you run into this, fyi.
    
    I have heard of several cases of Bordatella appearing in cats.  This is
    what is called "kennel cough" in dogs.  It is a virus that CAN affect
    cats.  It seems that a few breeders from far ranging areas have come
    down with an "upper resp" that can turn into pneumonia and kill the
    kitty.  Baytril is proven effective against it.  To determine for sure
    if this is what is affecting your cat a culture must be done.  Quick
    action can save the kitty.  
    
    Knock on wood I haven't picked it up, but if it is showing up in
    different areas, it would seem to me that it has become a prevalent
    disease.  Don't let your vet rule this out if kitty becomes sick.
    Karen
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766.1More info, pleaseEASI::GEENENIllud cape et ei fibulam adfige!Fri May 27 1994 13:356
    I've never heard of this, Karen.  Can you give us an idea of the
    symptoms, please?  Is the cough sporadic or more frequent?  Where are
    these far ranging areas?  I'd like to learn more about it.  Thanks for
    any info you can provide.
    
    Carl
766.2It's not new, but is rel. unknown.STOWOA::FALLONMoonsta CatteryFri May 27 1994 14:1811
    Carl,
    I have heard from breeders in western NY state up through NH.
    Someone I talked to last nite seemed to think that someone in Canada
    had mentioned it too.  I don't actually know much about the symptoms
    other than it turns into the pneumonia.  The Nels Pederson book
    discusses it.  Do you have the book?  If not, I can bring it in and
    write what it has to say next week.  I do think it is more like loss of
    apetite, upper resp sort of symptoms.  Not so much the cough like in
    dogs.  Has anyone in your area had kitties with strange upper resps? 
    Perhaps this would explain it.
    Karen
766.3Always curiousEASI::GEENENIllud cape et ei fibulam adfige!Fri May 27 1994 19:3020
    Our little Joe Mao, who died of FIP last Dec. 31, had an unexplained
    URI for some months before his death.  There was never any coughing
    or fluid buildup like is found with pneumonia, just a lot of
    sneezing and nasal discharge.  Two different vets could not find the
    handle on Joe's problem.  We would try an antibiotic for a month and
    that seemed to work, only to have the URI return after a few days of
    being off the antibiotic.  The URI didn't kill Joe, but it sure
    weakened his immune system to the point where the FIP could gain a
    stronghold.
    
    So I'm always curious about any mention of feline URIs.  I've not
    heard of this one and would like to know more.  I don't have the
    Nels Pederson book, so any info you could easily enter here would
    be most appreciated by me.
    
    BTW, which Pederson book are you referring to?  Is this the same N. C.
    Pederson who writes articles about feline diseases for veterinary
    publications?  In my FIP and FeLV readings, his name comes up a LOT.
    
    Carl
766.4SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideSat May 28 1994 15:038
        
        Both Beau and Spike had kennel cough a couple of years ago, and
        it took a  while  for  my  vet  to  diagnose it, as it has been
        relatively rare in cats.   It looked like a regular URI, except
        for the bloody sneezes.   They  were  both  effectively treated
        with Gentocin (sp?) and have had no recurrence.
        
        
766.5Kennel Cough in dogsHOTLNE::CORMIERTue May 31 1994 10:0910
    In dogs it's very easy to diagnose - a gagging, hacking cough.  Not
    sure how it manifests itself in cats, though.  Dogs pick it up not only
    from kennels, but from other dogs.  So if your dog is a roamer and
    comes in contact with another roamer who has it, you dog will most
    likely come down with it.  For cats who are typically always roaming,
    it could probably spread very easily.   Dogs can be vaccinated against
    it with a nasal spray.  Most kennels require a certificate or note from
    a vet attesting to the fact that your dog has been vaccinated before
    permitting it to board.  
    Sarah
766.6STOWOA::FALLONMoonsta CatteryTue May 31 1994 12:159
    Hi Carl!
    Yes, it is the same Neils Pederson.  I have the book of Cattery
    Management.    I didn't bring it in today but will try to remember
    tomorrow.  He is the same man that is also running the seminar on fip I
    wrote about in the silver lining note.  He is pretty good with cat
    stuff, that's for sure!  I am glad to see someone devoting so much time
    to feline research.
    regards,
    Karen