Conference misery::abc_soaps

    Wait Kathryn,
    
    Don't forget the famous scene with Ceara's dad, who said, and I can't
    quote it, something like
    
         I have to go to the _____ (whatever he called it, bathroom, John,
         etc.), so bad, my teeth are floatin'!!!!
    
    What a classy guy, huh?!?!?!?
    
    
    
    Lisa

    Also, we hardly ever see a TV in the livingrooms of Soap homes and if
    there is one it is only on when there is an important news event.
    
    And, the only person whoever watches Daytime Soaps in Frisco while
    playing Mr. Mom.
    
    How about the fact that although people "cry poor mouth" all the time,
    they are seen dressed to the nines in designer fashions when going out.
    
    

    You're right, Thel, but also what about the people who don't work
    at all, but always seem to have the money to do EVERYTHING!  On AMC,
    Arlene doesn't work and hasn't received money from anybody lately,
    yet she always seems to have enough to buy booze.  And what about
    Brian...  he always has gas in his car, but he doesn't work.  And
    then there are those ones who go to work for about 10 minutes each
    day...  Where can I get a job like that?
    
    Lisa --->  I forgot all about Ceara's dad!  Yes!  He certainly did
    act a little more real than most.  I think he said "I gotta hit the
    head.  My back teeth are floatin' from all this coffee."
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Yes, Kathryn, that's what he said, "I gotta hit the head."!!! when
    ever I hear someone use that phrase, I wanna go over & grab their hand,
    and HIT THEM IN THE HEAD WITH IT!!!
    
    On hispanic soaps, they almost ALWAYS have a TV in the living room. I
    don't know why they aren't more common on american soaps.
    
    People on soaps are smoking far less than they used to in the 70's &
    80's, but they're drinking far more.
    
    this is all I could think of right now.
    
    Bon

    
    
    	How about the women that wake up in the morning looking
    	exactly like they did when they went to bed the night before?
    	Lipstick is perfect, no raccoon eyes from mascara and their
    	hair is perfect!  ha!  I don't know anyone that wakes up
    	looking that good.
    

    How many of you use stationary and envelopes when you leave a note for
    someone?
    
    Another thing, how come nobody ever hears the door bell, unless it's
    for them?  People can be in the room while there is a screaming match
    going on and they never hear it?  Yet, they also seem to be able to
    hear every pin drop from the next room with the door closed.
    
    How come no one ever goes grocery shopping?  Well, we know EA never
    bothered her fridge was always empty.
    
    Who else, besides Brooke, keeps there pots and pans in the oven?  And
    how did Jack know that that is exactly where they were?
    
    Both Brooke (AMC) and Stacey (LOV) are in wheelchairs, but they have
    yet to address having any difficulty with accessibility.  I didn't
    think that the Alden mansion had any 1ST floor bedrooms.
    
    /red

    I don't keep my pans in the oven, however my stove is electric and has
    a draw on the bottom for storage, I store my baking pans and racks
    there.

My mother-in-law as well as my grandparents keep a few baking pans and wire
racks in the the oven.

    And,
    
    Did you ever notice that people are always tracking others down.  It
    seems that everytime someone is out to eat, another always comes
    running in saying that they've been looking all around town for them. 
    I don't know about you, but if I needed to talk to someone, I would
    wait till they get home to speak with them.  One who is famous for his
    interruptions is Adam on AMC.  He is always barging in on dinners.
    On most of the soaps, the hospital nurses station seems popular for
    tracking someone down.  It really cracks me up.
    
    Also, did you ever notice that the doorbell always rings in the same
    room as the person is in.  If Myrtle and Brian are talking in the
    kitchen, the back doorbell rings.  If they are in the living room, the
    front rings.  Although not a soap, this used to happen on Family Ties
    all the time.  How do these people know what room the others are in???? 
    I suppose it's what's set up for a set that detemines it!!!
    
    Cheryl

    AND...
    
    did you ever notice, these people never have stereos...on LOVING,
    Trisha has $100,000.00 in the closet, but she's listening to a little
    transitor radio.  Where are the quadraphonic stereos?????
    
    AND...
    
    did you ever notice, they never have two people with the same name.  I
    have always been to school with or worked with at least two Debbie's at
    a time....
    
    /red

    
    AND....
    
    no person ever eats more than one forkful of food or drinks more
    than one swallow of a beverage --> EVER!!!!!!!!  Just once I would
    like to see Bryan walking out of Myrtle's kitchen munching on a
    banana of eating bowl of Cheerios!
    
    AND....
    
    whenever they pour champagne --> it always bubbles out of the glass 
    because it is NOT chilled sufficiently!
    
    AND....
    
    Whenever they show someone driving, the scenery out of the back
    window is ALWAYS a perpetual shade of verdant green --> high Summer!
    
    --dc

    AND......when ordering coffee or lunch in Kelly's on GH, everyone seems
    to leave before Ruby serves the food ofr drink and no one ever pays her

    
    
    No one ever pays for anything on AMC either!  And most of the time,
    they never even get to the main course.....all they get is their salad
    and BAM they are gone!
    
    And.....dc  I agree....champagne everywhere but in the glass!  Chill,
    chill, chill!
    
    Jackie
    

AND

They never pour more than 2 swallows of coffee into a cup.

AND

I don't care how many kids they have nobody ever has a messy house.


L

    AND...
    
    The women always have clip on earrings, that they always take off when
    they answer the phone.
    
    /red

    /red:
    
    It seems like whenever they answer the phone, they have on "clip-ons" 
    But if you look close, they wear pierced a lot!  It must be that when
    they know they are going to answer the phone, they wear clip on!  ha ha
    
    Jackie
    

    I always giggle when the telephone rings and someone answers it and it
    keeps ringing.
    
    

    Or, when the person "on the other end" is talking and they forget to
    put the speaker voice on.  They sound like they are in the next room,
    which technically, they are.
    
    Cheryl

    Or, when the parents just go where ever they want no matter what
    time it is and leave there kids like they don't remember they have
    any.                      
    
    k2

    How about the fact that no matter how short the notice the parents can
    always get a babysitter.  Also, that parents can make arrangements,
    spur of the moment for "get-aways" without the child(ren).  Also, no
    one ever has to carry all that paraphenalia most people have to take
    along when they have small children, one small diaper bag is all that
    is required, even for an overnight!

    I have changed the title of this topic to Pet Peeves & Unrealities
    about soaps.  I hope it reflects the actual content of the replies
    a little better than the original title.
    
    Jan, co-mod
    
    
    Now for my contributions.  I was mentioning in the GH topic that
    even though Robert Scorpio has been in an explosion, had surgery
    for a ruptured spleen and been shot, he is still amazingly scarless.
    Seems no matter how much bodily harm a soap character comes too,
    they have remarkable powers of recovery that defy scarring.  Now if 
    I could just get my surgery scar to go away like that, I'd be all set.
    
    My other pet peeve is...no matter whose home or office a person is
    at, people trying to call them always know where to call.  I wish
    that worked the same way in real-life.   Sure would be alot easier
    to communicate with family and friends if instead of getting their
    answering machine or no answer at all you just knew they would be
    at so-and-so's house or such-and-such shop and could call them there.
                 
    Jan

    I also mentioned this in the GH note, but with regard to answering
    machines....how come they are always on, except when it is imperative
    that the person be reached?  Even the automatic one that a built right
    into the phone are never working when someone in trouble is trying to
    contact the person.

    
    
    AND:
    
    	how come 10 - 20 yrs later the person finds out they have illigamet
    	child????  (Clay Alden (lov), Adam Chandler (AMC) and there were a
    	few more on AMC if I recall.
    
    AND:
    
    	How come if they knew they had a child we dont even here there name
    	mentioned EVER........
    
    	** I love the earing comments **
    
    Louisa (this is a great topic)
    
    

    
    
    AND...
    
    On AMC and LOVING, these rich people who have a staff, that never
    answers the door.  (GH and OLTL may be at fault here too, but I haven't
    watched them recently, last I remember Herron most always answered
    Viki's door, and their was a butler at the Quatermaines who was pretty
    good about opening doors there.)
    

    AND...
    
    These people always get dress back into the same clothes AFTER sex,
    WITHOUT showering.
    
    /red

    AND...
    
    As I once mentioned in the GH file - when they are on the phone, they
    don't say goodbye.  They just spit out what they have to say and then
    they hang up.  No goodbye or nothing.  If someone did that to me I
    would think they hung up on me.
    
    AND...
    
    Don't these people ever clean their home.  I have yet to see it, just
    once I would like to see GH's Lucy pushing a vacuum, or Scott doing his
    laundry.
    
    Kathy
    

    Kathy,
    
    Now that you mentioned it, on GH today.  Bobbie was doing the wash!
    

    
    Kathy --> on AMC we got to see Dumb Dixie folding endless piles
    of laundry!  She never put it away of course, she just folded it!
    
    --dc

    Where did Ceara get that envelope to put that letter in ?????
    
    /red

    This note is really a HOOT!!!  I have one for "unrealities"
    
    How about when one character eithers sees or overhears another
    character talking to the opposite sex.  The the first chartacter
    assumes the second is having an affair or some type of conspiracy
    with the person they were talking to.  (actually, it doesn't always
    have to be the opposite sex!).  Jeez, if you guys saw your husband
    talking or having coffee with another woman, would you automatically
    think he was having an affair?  Then go on to get yourselves so worked
    up that you start freaking out on him?    I think when soaps do
    that it is soooooooooo silly!!!!!!   
    
    My favorite was the doorbell ringing in whatever room they are in!!!
    That was really funny!!!!!
    
    Renee

    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in .30 that if the character actually
    does hear or see something that would lead them to believe their mate
    is having an affair, they almost never confront them!!!!  They would
    rather sneak around and follow them or hire a private investigator,
    or ask advice from others than just ask their mate!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Renee

    Are there ever weekends on soaps???  Why do most men ALWAYS wear
    suits????
    
    Cathy

    Cathy:
    
    I was just going to enter that weekend thing myself!  You never hear
    about people going away for the weekend or even *see* them on the
    weekend.  They just all have jobs that they can go to for 10 minutes
    a day, so I guess that's why they don't need them.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    How about these people who just leave their doors open with no screens,
    you never see them chasing around a fly with a rolled up newspaper.
    
    /red

    /red you are too much!
    
    This is the best topic, I laugh at it all the time...keep 'em coming!
    
    Renee, you're right this is a HOOT!
    
    Jackie
    

    Another thing...Don't you just love how people travel at the speed
    of light on these soap operas?  One minute they are in one scene
    and then lo and behold during the commercials they have traveled all 
    the way across town (and sometimes across states) to be in the next
    scene.
    
    I wish I could move that fast don't you.  Then I wouldn't have to
    worry about ever being late for anything.
    
    k2
    
    

    Ok, here's one that really irks me...
    
    Why is it that *no one* ever seems to have a bad day.  They're always
    so blasted cheery.  You know, those days where you wake up and by the
    time you get to work you realize what your wearing doesn't match, you
    have runs in your stockings, your hair won't go right.. and you
    generally look and feel terrible....
    
    Christine (who discovered runs in her stockings this morning a little
    too late to do anything about it)

    On the other end of the spectrum.....it might take the characters the
    few minutes between scene broken by commercials to travel half way
    around the world, but to get home from that same location if there is
    an emergency takes just about a week of shows.

    Whenever anyone falls asleep on the sofa or something, there is always
    a blanket right there for someone else to cover them up with.  They
    never have to search around in cupboards and closets for a blanket.
    And of course, we have never seen this blanket laying across the couch
    before, it just appears for the scene.
    
    And, if the blanket was right there to begin with, why didn't the
    person that was about to go to sleep just grab it and cover themselves
    up, huh???
    
    Jo

    Jo,  You beat me to it, I just watched the tape this morning and
    noticed the same thing.
    
    /red

    I saw it too!  How convenient for Jack to be able to cover is latest
    love!
    
    
    And did you all notice how Myrt on AMC brought over the electric drill
    for Brian?  In a box, tied with string!  Now don't we all do that for
    our hubby's or SO?  ha ha
    
    Jackie
    

    
    
    And the size of that Drill box...Wow!!  That must've been some drill.
    
    
    Kathy
    

    Kathy:
    
    You're right!  That must have been a BBBBBIIIIIIIGGGGGG Dril, ha ha

    
    And...
    
    How come it only takes ONE try --> when two people AREN'T married
    to have a baby and it takes FOREVER and a day if they are married?
    
    And...
    
    How come when the baby comes --> someone is always either
    switching the tot with another one, kidnapping it, claiming
    or denying paternity? (^%
    
    And...
    
    How come NOONE raises their own children?  It's always their 
    very worst or most hated enemy that winds up raising the kids! (^%
    
    --dc

    Good points dc...I've had these same pet peeves myself

    Now this bugs me almost as much as seperately wrapped lids on
    gifts...  Maybe even *MORE*...
    
    Let's be frank for a minute, folks...  How many of you wake up
    in the morning and the absolute first thing you do is passionately
    kiss the person next to you in bed???  Shheessh, if I did that,
    my husband would've left me long ago!  I, for one, have the most
    disgusting breath in the morning and my husband's is equally bad.
    I'm not afraid to admit this, as I think it's a fairly common
    affliction.  So why don't people on soaps have this problem???
    You always see them going at it first thing upon opening their
    eyes and I think it's totally sick and unrealistic!  Maybe the
    writers are trying to make us who have a.m. trench mouth feel
    that we're in the minority and that there's something wrong with
    us.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Something I read in the GH file got me today,  Robert and Anna are
    changing the location of their wedding and are sending out new
    invitaions.  When I ordered my invitaions last year it took a minimum
    of 2 weeks to get them.  How can they get new invitaions and get them
    mailed out in 4 days?
    
    re .46  I agree, they always have these people kissing without even
    brushing their teeth first thing in the morning. GROSS!!!
    
    Robyn

    
    Kathryn:
    
    Great topic!  All the answers are good, but I'm especially glad someone
    brought up the weekend thing!!!
    
    A couple of other things: Hardly anyone has pets.  When they do, they
    are fluffy little lap dogs or cats (Bonkers on AMC), but rarely
    does a goofy dog or cat come galumphing to the door to say welcome
    home!  We all know that Palmer Courtlandt's Dobermans are nothing
    more than a tape recording!!!!!!!  At least half (if not
    more) of the real life people I know have some kind of pet....
    
    Another thing:  everyone seems to be Protestant, except for 
    soap working class Catholics (and they have really Italian or Irish
    names), and no one is ever Jewish.  Whenever anyone dies, they always
    have the same "reverend" doing the funeral (even though they come 
    back to life within 2 years 90% of the time...)
    
    Finally: there is a very high rate of hysterical pregnancies on soaps.
    The only real life hysterical pregnancy I ever knew about was a GREAT
    DANE.....
    
    	
    FP

FP --->

>    Whenever anyone dies, they always
>    have the same "reverend" doing the funeral (even though they come 
>    back to life within 2 years 90% of the time...)

Maybe that's why that have the same "reverend" doing the services all the time!
If they die, he sends a guarentee along with them and if they are not completely
satified with death, they can come back in 2 years!  :-)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.


The one thing that bothers me, is that people forget to mention something
extremely important at the most inconvient times.  I guess that's mostly for
the plot reasons.  


							Lisa

    On GH, Robert had a dog, Friday.  The dog was on quite alot
    when he was dating Katheryn.  I thought that was protrayed fairly
    realistically with lots of cute things Friday did.  Scorpio seemed
    to enjoy having the dog on the set!
    
    However, Friday has conveniently disappeared without a trace and 
    no mention of him either!  
    
    We better not mention it in our letters to GM, she'll probably
    have him get run over in the street and show the whole thing!!!!

Unreality:

How come everyone buys milk in a 1 quart carton?  Nobody ever has a half
gallon or a gallon...  8^)

Kb

    
    I buy milk in a 1 quart carton... what are you implying?
    
    08^)

    
    Kathryn, you beat me to the morning breath comments!  When Erica
    and GTC woke up the other day and immediately started kissing one
    another (more than a peck) I grossed out.
    
    And, no one EVER has to look up a phone number, even if they are
    tracking someone down at some out of the way bistro.
    
    And the no shower after sex comment was great!
    
    Heather
    

    Kathryn:
    
    Every time I see a gift wrapped the way you described, (separate
    wrapping on the box and on the cover), I will definately think of you.
    
    Cheryl

    How about this one.  When there's an emergency they never call 911
    but the operator "Operator get me the police!"
    
    (Haven't read thru whole file, hope this isn't a repeat!)

    The doctors on these shows always make house calls.  Yesterday, Dr.
    Clater went to EA's house, and on OLTL, Larry is always running over to
    Llanfair.
    
    Cheryl

    I just thought of one!!!  How many people do you know look
    at something and get that wild look in their eyes and freak out?!!!
    Like Icky Bill or Dominique?   
    
    I think all those story lines where people "freak out" are pretty
    stupid.  The only one which I think was carried out pretty good was
    Ceara's.
    
    Renee

    Did anyone notice on GH, Thursday I think it was, Lila was sitting in
    her wheelchair doing needlepoint/crossstich or some kind of handwork
    like that.  She didn't have any scissors, extra thread, book (unless
    it was a preprinted pattern), or any other paraphernalia around her
    that you need to do work like that.  Nor did she have on any type
    of glasses, and women that age usually need magnifying glasses at the
    very least for work like that.
    
    Angie

    Angie,  One of Anna Lee's (Lila) many talents is designing needlepoint
    patterns for others to used.  She usually designs on a blank piece of
    cloth.  She did say that she brings a piece she is working on into a
    scene from time to time as she feels it makes it more realistic.  BTW:
    not everyone needs glasses as they get older for close work, that
    happens when you are far-sighted.  People who are near-sighted don't
    need glasses for close work.  One of my further daughter-in-law's
    grandmother is 75 years old and has 20/20 eyesight.  Stuart Damon is
    quite realistic in his use of glasses during scenes....always pulls
    them out of his pocket to read anything handed to him...just like my
    husband does.  (Me...I'm nearsighted, so can't see distant things
    without glasses, but I can read stock-market numbers and phone books
    without any problem what so ever.

    How come no one ever smells (or tastes) alcohol on someone's breath. 
    that's the first thing I would notice when talking with someone.  AMC
    is so famous for that.  There's the person, standing in front of them,
    obviously smashed.  It's bad enough that they don't notice that, but
    then the can't even smell it.
    
    Cheryl

    Thanks Thel for the clearing up on the needlepoint.  It looked like
    she had a needle in her hand because of the way she was holding it.
    That's why I thought she was working a pattern.  I also didn't mean
    to imply that all people that age wore glasses.  My grandmother was
    farsighted, but still used magnifying glasses to sew because it
    strained her eyes and gave her a headache not to.  She never wore
    them any other time.  Lila must have a great talent (naturally)
    to be able to design needlepoint!!!
    
    Angie

    How come the justice system in soaps is so speedy?  Someone is arrested
    and goes on trial practically the same day.  In real life it can take
    up to 2 years for an accused person to stand trial.  It is amazing that
    pre-trial hearings are never required prior to a soap trial, they never
    have evidence the defense wants suppressed.  Also, everyone can afford
    the best lawyer in town (usually the only lawyer) and no one ever asks
    they be represented by the public defenders office.  Also, how come no
    matter how large the city, the DA always tries the cases and seldom is
    it stated he/she has any assistant DA's working in his office. The
    defense attorney always does his own investigation, never has an
    associate, an investigator and seldom has a secretary.

    
    And do you know what gets me?  The only one on TV that you see fixing
    her hair or in hair curlers is Opal (AMC).  The Glamorama can't be
    doing that good!
    
    Jackie
    

    Well Jackie, that's why Opal's hair looks the way it does all the time. 
    She doesn't have Doodles, Ethel or Irma do it for her!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl:
    
    (Picture me doing the hand movement to I shoulda had a V-8) and
    then....
    
    
    Wow, I never thought of that!  and BTW  I miss Ethel and Irma, they
    haven't been on much!
    
    
    Jackie
    
    

    Reading the FP report in AMC brought to mind one thig that I hate:
    
    When people are sitting around for dinner, they all sit on one side!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie:
    
    re:  sitting on one side of the table reminds me of an old joke
    about the painting of the Last Supper, where everyone is on one
    side, because that's where the photographer told them to be!
    
    Heather
    

    hee hee...I've heard that one too! :*D
    
    Bon

    Why are these people (for instance Charlie) always shocked when they 
    walk into the house (Mona's) and find someone (Ruth and Nick)
    there....don't they recognize the car in the driveway??????
    
    /red

    Heather:  Good one!
    
    /red:  I love it!  You're right....cars must be in the driveway!!!!!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    
    ...and
    
    How come most scenes are shot while everyone is standing up!  Doesn't
    anyone ever sit down, except to eat, anymore? (^%  When's the last time
    you told your wife or girlfriend that you were having an affair with 
    her best friend --> standing up and walking around the living room!!!!
    
    ...and
    
    How come whenever someone goes for a drive --> the scenery we see
    from the backwindow, is always green --> like in Summer, while the 
    driver NEVER keeps their eyes on the road!!!
    
    --dc
    

    For those who are driven crazy whenever they see the way gifts are
    wrapped on soaps....there is a game show on the lifetime channel called
    Shop til you Drop.  All the packages are wrapped that "soap way".
    
    /red

    I hate when people get totally PLASTERED and then 20 minutes later they
    have straightened up. C'mon! Even coffee, cold showers & slaps in the
    face can't straighten ya up that fast!....and hangovers are RARELY ever
    even heard of!
    
    Bon

    What gets me is the total lack of communication between the characters. 
    One person will find out information that they KNOW some else needs to
    know.  They will talk to that person 10 times before they mention the
    info they know and even then they leave half of it out.  I know that
    sometimes there wouldn't be a story if they told it all, but gee wiz it
    gets real frustrating sometimes.
    
    If real life was like that, what a mess things would be.
    
    Kathy
    

    
    ...and Kathy is right!  Like there is [[NO]] communication between 
    these SOAP people!  Grab this for example --> I just slept with
    my brother's nympho-maniacal, slutty, partially-paralyzed, blind, 
    sister-in-law and 11 busi-body, gabby, gossipy woman all know about 
    it!  (^% 
    
    Does my brother ever find out --> well, in about 120 days or so.
    Just who does he find out this information from?  Probably ME!!!! (^%
    I guess all the small-town gossips just aren't doing their jobs!  (^%
    
    --dc
    

    I hate it when people on soaps start out hating each other, than later
    end up being related, falling in love or the best of friends.  For
    example, on OLTL, Dry-Megan wanted to SLAP Vicki with a rubber chicken
    every time they run into each other FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL...
    Dry-Megan didn't even know Vicki but she hated the sight of her, than
    of course Vicki ends up being her MOTHER!!!!!
    
    I know there are several soap relationships that start out this way, but
    this one really plucked my nerves the most!!!!!  I can't imagine
    falling in love with someone I desperately HATE the sight of!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Strawberry 

    Re: -1
    
    I agree with your point Strawberry, but Megan hated Vicki because
    her father was paying so much attention to her.  She was being loyal
    to the woman she THOUGHT was her mother.
    
    

    Yeah, like Opal & PC on AMC, or Nat & Trevor....
    
    Any more?
    
    BON

They always say, "There's a fine line between love and hate"  I couldn't stand
my husband when I met him the first time.  The man had an ego the size of Texas
(sort of still does) and thought he was God's gift to women.  I hated him,
thought he was [[[[DISGUSTING]]]] and then about 18 months later I married him.

Who woulda thought!!!!!!!!! (^% (^%  

KK

    .77--> I know dry-Megan didn't like Roger giving Vicki so much
    attention, but that was no reason to HATE her like she did.  I can
    understand her disliking her, but GOSH she despised Vicki.
    
    Another HATE/LOVE was Alexis and Bo...  When horny-Alexis first showed
    up to help Bo find Sara, he treated her like SH*%, than they became
    good friends and he recommended to work for Asa.  At first all he
    wanted to do was send her back to Washington.
    
    Strawberry

    
    Nat/Trev would be the Love/Hate I HATE!
    
    I hated my husband the first time we met in October (our first date). 
    (Blind date!)  Didn't see him until by chance we met at a New Year's 
    Eve Party (3 months later).  We hit it off and I got a gorgeous HUGE 
    ring Feb 7 and we married Arpil 25th!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    WOW, Jackie!! All of this happened within 6 months?!?! Whatta woman!
    Your husband must have been PRETTY SURE of you!! I suppose your friend
    that set you two up takes all the credit, right?
    
    Bonnie

    Why doesn't anyone EVER say "goodbye" when the terminate a telephone
    conversation???!!!
    
    Yesterday's Loving, (not exact words)...Paul calls Ava at work...
    
   PAUL: "When are you coming home, I miss you!"
    
    Ava: "Soon, I miss you so much!"
    
    PAUL: "I miss you too, so hurry!"
    
    AVA: "I'll be ther just as soon as I can, I LOVE YOU!"
    
    .....click.....
    
    It happened on AMC yesterady too, I don't remember what the convo was
    tho. I think I'd call back & say, "Why did you hang up on me?" *BUT*
    I'd be sure to say "GOODBYE" before I hung up!
    
    Bonnie

    The partition of glass at the jails/prisions.
    
    On LOVING...Matt is just in jail, not a maximum security prison and
    he's behind glass.
    
    /red

    The TEENY WEENY tables in the soap restaurants. In the Chateau and the
    Pine Valley Inn the tables look the 2' across unfinished wood things
    that you buy (unassembled) at Target fo $5.99. If anyone REALLY
    tried to eat a normal meal at one of those, they'd end up eating off the
    floor! 
    
    Re: past notes love/hate. In the old Soaps notefiles there was entire
    topic devoted to this, but it was geared more towards how the Soaps
    regularly had women who were raped/abused fall in love with their
    abuser. 

    How come when someone is trying to call a person who's not home, the 
    person on the phone will only let the phone ring 3 times and then say 
    they're not home.  But when the person is home, they let the phone 
    ring about 10 times, while the person gets out of bed, puts on their 
    robe, stretches and walks leisurely to the phone????
    
    
    /red

    Last night Jan and I did what so many soap people do all the time, we
    stayed at someone's house after they had left!!!  It sure felt weird...
    
    Jo

    One thing that bugs me is when they show a room full of people
    and various conversations are going on but no sounds are being
    made - people are just lip synching like they are talking.  I'm
    sure they have reasons for this - like I'm sure they have to
    pay actors more if they actually speak lines and it probably
    makes it harder to hear the main conversation between whomever
    the main characters are but it still bugs me.
    
    Nancy

    YEAH, what she said and Brooke must have froze the other day when she
    left the ball.  I think the streets are heated in Soap Land.  Wonder if
    I can get their heating people to come do my office.
    
    /red
    

    FAKE SNOW!!!! I HATE FAKE SNOW!!! When Derrick, Mimi, Livia, and Tom
    came back from Livia's fall they were all covered in snow. 10 minutes
    and a commercial break later poor Livia still had 'snow'
    electrostatically stuck to her face!! She'd brush it away and it kept
    jumping right back on her!
    
                   

    Hey, we may have to take that thing about how gifts are wrapped on
    soaps out of this topic....
    
    On Monday our step-sister (Jan's and mine) got married, and when she
    opened one of her gifts we almost died laughing!!  The top of the box 
    was wrapped separate from the bottom of the box, just like they do on 
    the soaps!  All Becky had to do was lift off the top of the box!!  I am
    sure that all of the relatives were wondering what was so funny about a
    floral comforter. ;')
    
    Jo  

    
    The soap houses NEVER have a screen door!  They only have the storm
    door.  Now I could understand Santa Barbra they are in CA! But the
    others are located around NY...NY parts all have screen doors.  
    
    Lou

    LouL:
    
    Brooke (AMC) has a screen door, and the Martins do on the back door!
    
    
    Jackie

    
    All the fireplaces take only 1 match to light!  It takes me about
    4 newspapes and and a box of matches
    
    Lou

    Kate & Louie have a screen door too.
    
    Bon

    Ever notice that when soap people are at work, they almost NEVER
    discuss work issues .. always gossip!  
    
    I want their jobs!