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    Thought this might be helpful for the newer AMC noters...
    The names of the characters have evolved tremendously through
    the months and most of us refer to the characters by some sort
    of nickname.  A little while ago I can remember that someone was
    confused by the name "P the L" so I thought I'd compile a list of
    some our most common endearing terms.  Anyone who knows more,
    post them by all means.
    
    Travis:  Travis-the-Weenie, TtW, Tee the Wee
    
    Jackson:  Puffy the Lawyer, P the L, PtL
    
    Barbara:  Borebara, Borebra, Babs
    
    Ceara:  $eara, $$$$$$$$eara (for folks who *really* want to get the
                                 point across)
    
    David:  Davis Yawn-pal, DYP
    
    Natalie:  Nastalie, Nausalie
    
    Adam:  SAdam, Gramps
    
    Palmer:  PC
    
    Jeremy:  Jerm
    
    Haley:  Elvira, Comet
    
    Donna:  Doodles
    
    Chuck:  Chuckles
    
    Emily Ann:  EA, Arachnid
    
    Dixie:  Dumb Dixie, DD
    
    Melanie:  Nervous Mellie, Twitching Mellie, NM
    
    Will:  SWill
    
    As I said, please add more if you know of any.  I, myself, am
    particularly fond of Tee the Wee.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Oh, how could I have forgotten about that whining little brat
    Bianca???  She has *many* nicknames, but off the top of my head:
    
    Bratinella
    Barfanca
    Baggabows
    
    - K
    

    
    Great Scott, Kathryn --> I forget that a new reader would be totally
    perlexed by all these nicknames!  (^%  Here's my favorite one of them 
    all:
    
    Trevor --> Uncle Porkchop
    
    --dc

    I was watching Oklahoma Sunday and who was in it, but good ole Uncle
    Palmer. Looked pretty much the same, but he did have dark hair. Also
    EmilyAnn is doing a commerical for Bennigans (resturant).
    

    
    That [[[WAS]]] Emily Ann in the Bennigan's commercial  --> I didn't 
    recognize her!!!!!!
    
    --dc

    Did anyone watch Susan Lucci on Sat. Night Live this past
    weekend.  Was it a repeat?  They made reference to her never
    winning the emmy.  It was a funny skit.  Do you think that
    that Susan Lucci ever gets sick of playing Erica?  Erica at
    times gets on my nerves.  
    
    Regards
    Karen
    

    
    Karen --> it must have been a repeat!  Did they show Erica in the 
    suitcase room saying a prayer for the return of her lost luggage?
    
    The part of that show that made me laugh so hard was when Erica/Susan
    was walking down the corridors at SNL and there were these three guys
    eating corn on the cob using two emmy statues to hold the corn to their
    mouths!!!!!!!!  It was pretty funny!   -->    (]*;"  Yes it was sort
    of "corny" (pardon the pun) but you can give me a little burlesque 
    with my corn anyday! 
    
    --dc
    

    DC,
    
    It was the luggage episode.  I just happened to catch that much
    of it.  "All My Luggage"
    
    Also, I saw Myra on a preview for some movie.  Don't remember which
    movie was though.
    
    Jan

    I went to the movie over the week-end and saw Russia House, guess who
    had a small part?.... Mark Dalton, I don't remember his real name. Has
    anyone out there saw this movie?
    
    il

    
    il --> I saw the "Russia House!"  Yup --> that was Mark Lemura (SP)
    also know as Mark Dalton!  Can you believe it?
    
    --dc

    This came up in the regular string of AMC and I thought I'd post
    a response here since it has to do with history...
    
    Charlie's father was Philip Brent, adopted son of *Ruth* and Ted
    Brent (same Ruth who is now married to Joe Martin).  Philip's parents
    were Amy Tyler (don't know who she married to acquire the Tyler name)
    who was Ruth's sister and Nick Davis, a long-time friend of Mona Kane.
    Anyway, upon becoming pregnant, Amy left town to have her baby and Ruth
    and Ted who were childless, went away for a time too and came back
    after having adopted Amy's baby, but told everyone the baby was their
    own.  (See, Amy had an illicit affair with Nick).  Anyway, Ted Brent
    was a wicked *ssh*le (he always wore loud plaid suits) and he and Ruth
    were getting close to the edge of divorce.  Philip was in love Tara
    Martin and Erica was jealous (they were all in high school at the time)
    and one day Erica overheard (sounds like Barfanca) her mother and Nick
    discussing the fact that he was Philips's real father.  Well, Erica
    rushed right out and spilled the beans to Phil who was practically
    devistated by the news.  Ted Brent got wind of the fact that Phil
    knew and assumed that Nick told him.  He rushed out in his car to go
    "kill that Nick Davis" and due to reckless driving, got into an
    accident and died.
    
    The way Charlie found out about Phil being his real father I'm kind
    of foggy on, but I don't believe it was Erica who told him.  It may
    have actually been Tara and Phil who sat him down one day.  Cheryl A.:
    can you you help out here?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    
    Know what would be neat?  An AMC Family Tree.  Does anyone know if you
    can use something like two dimensional editor in here?
    
    Jackie  ;-)
    

    Two other names for Hailey are Tinkerbell and Elvira

    & hay head!
    
    Bon

    a few more....
    
    Jack - BUBBLE BUT!! (I loved that one, Jackie!)
    Adam - POPS
    Donna - Zaftig
    Diz - Dimbulb
    
    Still thinking....KK=Kaite Kennecott
    
    

    
    Another nickname is Beanie Man for Mr. U.
    
    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's more to the Phil/Tara
    story.  Phil and Tara married themselves (?) in a motel the night
    before Phil went off to Vietnam, where he was presumed killed.  OF
    COURSE, Tara got pregnant with Charlie, who was called little Philip,
    and she married Chuckles, who had always been in love with her.  Phil
    miraculously (!!!) reappeared, to find Chuckles and Tara and their
    little son Philip, and he married Erica.  This didn't last long, and
    Tara divorced Chuckles and married Phil, at which time, little Philip
    insisted upon being called Charlie.  Meanwhile, Erica was having an
    affair with Nick Davis, Phil Brent's real father.  But Nick was
    SMART.  He flatly refused to marry Erica!!!!
    
    As an aside, I can't remember what they were wearing!!!!!
    
    FP

    
    Kathryn and FP --> Can you remember anything about Carrie Saunders
    and her mother?  How did these two fit into the Chuck/Tara/Phil 
    saga?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    FP,
    
    You are quite right on all counts.
    
    - K
    
    Oh, and how could I have forgotten the Beanie Man?  That's another
    of my favorite nicknames, too.
    

    dc,
    
    Carrie Saunders is but a vague memory...  I remember her mother
    was a battered wife and her husband (Carrie's father) died somehow.
    The wife killed him in self-defense, perhaps?  I remember that
    Chuckles married Carrie, but I don't know how Phil and Tara fit
    into that situation.  She and Chuckles didn't last too long...  he
    left town, then she did, then he came back, left again, and came
    back...
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Kathryn:
    
    I don't remember how Charlie found out about his true parentage.  I do
    seem to remember though, that he did the usual running away to Grandma
    Ruth's house.  Wasn't that about the time little Tad was caught smoking
    pot out his bedroom window?  I remember the two sharing a bedroom and
    at the time, Charlie was a little goodie-two-shoes and didn't want to
    smoke any.  Tad made him promise not to tell on him, but he got caught
    anyway.
    
    I'm also not sure about the Carrie Saunders storyline.  I don't
    remember it very well, except that the battered wife Lenore was in love
    with Joe Martin.  Didn't he have a brief affair with her???  Boy, that
    was a long time ago!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl:
    
    I couldn't think of her name and it was driving me crazy!!!  Lenore!
    You're right!  And now that you mention it, I do seem to remember
    Joe having an affair with her.  I know that he used to treat her when
    her husband knocked her around and then they took the plunge.  Ruth
    accepted him back because of her little illicit fling with David
    Thornton even though her affair took place way before, although for
    a while there, it looked like they were going to have big problems.
    
    - K
    

    Good morning...
    
    I have just a few questions about some of the characters and what
    happened to them.  
    
    What happened to Hillary?
    
    What happened to Nina? (I know she came back, I think her and old wart
    face adopted a kid but thats all I remember)
    
    Also can someone list all the husbands Erica has had?  
    
    I stopped watching AMC about the time Tad/Hillary were and item.
    
    Thanks! You guys are Grrrrrrrrrrrrrreat..
    
    Kw

    
    kw --> I'll take a stab at it -->  Hillary, after divorcing Tad for
    perpetual philandering, left her job at Tempo around the time that
    Barbara took over.  They didn't get along.  I think Donna Sago's
    brother Mitch and her were an item for a while --> didn't they
    live in a trailer???????  Hillary was Langley's daughter, so she had
    a pretty close relationship with Brooke!  I think  Hillary went to 
    Boston???????
    
    Nina and Cliff got back together and moved to Denver.  I think this
    was their third marriage.  She divorced the burly Matt.  Cliff made
    an abrupt about-face and totally dropped Angie for Nina.  
    
    Laura was the natural child of Brooke and Tom.
    
    This brings up more questions --> does anyone remember Giles St. Clair!
    
    --dc

    didn't Brooke have an affair w/ Giles St. Claire? Was Erica involved
    here somehow?? I don't remember that far back!! Please help!
    
    Also, Erica has been married 9 or 10 times...I don't have the running
    total, but the figure seems about right, then when I go to name them 
    off it seems like she was only engaged to them, Jerm, Mike Roy, &Nick
    Davis for starters.... But she DID marry Tom (Twice maybe), Adam,
    Travis (Twice)....ummmm who else???
    
    Bon

    Erica's husbands were:
    
    Jeff Martin, Adam Chandler, Tom Cuddahy, and Travis Montgomery (twice). 
    I think that was it.  She was engaged to Mike Roy (they did have and
    do-it-yourself wedding, no priest or JP), Brandon Kingsley, Jerm, and
    Nick Davis.  So, it seems like she's been married 9 times, but it's
    actually only 5.  Looks like she's trying for number 6!!!

    Don't forget that Erica was also married to Phil Brent for a short
    time.  I seem to remember she went nuts after either losing a baby
    (miscarriage) or having an abortion.  The house she and Phil lived
    in was purchased from Erica by Myrtle.  Phil divorced Erica and
    married Tara and then died in a helicopter crash in South America
    where he was working for the DEA.  His title was "Special Agent".
    
    - K

    
    Bon --> Erica and Brooke both competed for the attentions of Giles 
    St. Clair --> He finally chose Brooke (he used to call her BWOOK!)
    He got killed in a wicked motorcycle accident!
    
    Now here is a real brain teaser!  Who was that international
    model-type, drop-dead gorgeous French girl, who became Brooke's 
    rival for Giles?
    
    --dc

    
    A couple of weeks ago --> Phoebe and Enid Nelson told Nasty Natalie 
    that she "should be expecting an invitation to join the Daughters of 
    Fine Lineage, soon!"  So far, the invitation hasn't arrived. (^%
    
    Question --> remember when Erica tried out for the "Daughters" clan
    and was soundly rejected by the silk-covered and white-gloved ladies!  
    Anyone remember why she was rejected?  Was she ever inducted into the 
    "Daughters" at a later date?  Was it because she was living in sin with
    Mike Roy?
    
    --dc

    
    The FP wasn't watching regularly during the Giles StClair period,
    but remembers Brandon Kingsley!!!!  The guy who played him, besides
    being very well dressed (!) played Steve, Whoever-Jo's husband on
    Petticoat Junction.  
    
    Also, Steve Jacobi (Dack Rambo), that hunkohunko burnin' love that Nina 
    had a passionate affair with, played Walter Brennan's grandson on
    the Guns of Will Sonnett.  Our beloved (gag!) SAdam was Candy on
    Bonanza.
    
    As for Erica's husbands: Jeff Martin, Phil Brent, Tom, SAdam, Mike
    Roy (there seems to be a lot of confusion here, and I only have
    vague memories...), and Travis the odd nostriled Weenie twice.
    That makes either 7 or 6 marriages and either 5 or 6 husbands.
    
    Here's a question:  What man in PV has been married the most????
    
    FP

    
    FP --> I bet Palmer has been married the most!  Let's see, there
    was -->
    
    Daisy, Donna, Natalie, Opal and was her name Julia (Ross Chandler's
    ex-wife).  Gawd, FIVE WIVES!  No wonder he is loosing his cookies,
    even as we speak! (^%
    
    --dc

    
    Actually DC, I counted five times too, but I don't remember a
    Julia.  I DO remember Cynthia.  I've blocked out those hateful
    Ross Chandler years...she had a son named Andrew.  Are we talking
    about the same woman, or is there a SIXTH wife??????  Also, I
    believe that Palmer was married to Daisy twice.
    
    Your bosom [clutching] buddy SAdam has also been married to five
    women: Skye's mother, Erica, Brooke, Dingalingaling, and Natalie.
    
    Mr. Righteous Holiness Tom Cudahy has been married FOUR times
    to Erica, Brooke, Skye, and Borebra.  Looks like he might be
    available again in the near future to challenge the silver set!
    
    FP
    

    I was just thinking about Erica and a couple of situations she was in. 
    Does anyone remember the time she and Nastely had the powder fight. 
    Also, I remember that both Erica and Brook were in the the jungle
    together and Brook did alot better than Erica.  Anyone remember the
    circumstances.

    
    FP --> Sorry, I meant Cynthia, there was NO Julia!  But, wasn't 
    there some horrible woman that Adam was married to --> or was it 
    Stuart?  Her name was Joanna.  If it was Adam who was married to 
    this doll --> then he has the most --> six marriages!  Was Joanna
    Skye's mother? 
    
    Marcum --> Didn't Erica and Brooke get rescued by Jeremy and Mat
    when they were kidnapped to the islands?  I can't remember why 
    they were taken there and by who?  Help, we need a historian here!
    
    --dc

    Oh Kathryn...............this file is calling for a
    historian........where are you?
    
    Re:  Joanna      I think she is Skye's Mom!
    
    Good night all!
    
    Jackie
    

    re: 15.27 I think the girl's name was Sollange (phonetic spelling!) She
    and Giles both had awful Pepe Le Pew french accents...
    
    re: 15.34 Joanna, I believe was married to Stuart by some fluke. But
    she knew about Adams estranged wife who was locked up in an
    asylum... I think her name was Olympia.
    
    Does anyone remember what Skye's real name is?!?!?!?!?
    
    LKBBKL

    
    I thought I read somewhere that Skye's real name is Antoinette...
    
    Anyone know for sure?
    
    Cherie

    
    L_Bradford --> it was Sollange or Celange!  She sure gave Brooke
    the evil eye when Giles died.  Was Adam's estranged wife, the one
    in the assylum, Skye's natural mother?  Wasn't her name Olivia?
    
    Cherie --> I think it was Antoinette!
    
    --dc

    Cherie -->  Antoinette is right.
    
    I think who ever said Olympia was wrong (confusing your soaps that was ONE of
    Asa Buchanan's wives on OLTL.  If I remember correctly Adam's first
    wife and Skye's mother was Althea.  I don't think she was ever in an
    institution, but Asa has Olympia in one!!!
    
    

    /red:  Yes, *definately* Olympia is from OLTL and Althea is Skye's
    mother.  Skye's real name is Antoinette.  She took the name Skye
    when she had a singing career (the Australian actress who was the
    original Skye used to sing in PV).  SHe had a creepy manager, I
    forget what his name was.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Here's another trivia question for all you AMC watchers. This goes a
    way back...Does anyone remember the Frank and Nancy Grant storyline? I
    think Nancy was pregnant, Frank died, I'm not quite sure about that,
    but Nancy re-marry to give the baby whose name was Carl a father. Does
    anyone remember this, and can you elaborate?
    
    il

    Joanna was not Skye's mother, she was Stuart's wife, who was really in
    love with Adam, although he never gave her the time of day.  
    
    Carl's father was Frank and he and Nancy were still married when he was
    born.  She married later and moved to Chicago.  Nancy was Jesse's aunt.

    haven't had a cjance to get caught up w/ all the history
    replies yet, but SOD just had, "all you need to know to watch AMC"
    & it sez in there who all of Ericas & PS's hubbies were!
    
    BNon

    that was BAD...
    
    Sorry for the typos..I meant Erica & PC's marriages!
    
    Bon

    
    Kathryn --> I was thinking that Antoinette's creepy manager was
    MARCO DANE!  But that's from OLTL!  You are right, this is 
    getting really hard/confusing trying to remember this stuff!  (^%  
    
    --dc

    dc:  Was the creepy manager's name Denny?  For some reason that name
         keeps popping into my head, but it's probably wrong.
    
    Everybody:  Remember when Erica was living in a boarding house
                in Llanview (the town from OLTL) - at least I *think*
                it was Llanview, but she was disguised as a nun?  It's
                all a haze to me...  Why was she pretending to be a nun
                and who/what was she hiding from?  Was this when that
                dark-haired guy (oh, what was his name?) was killed by
                the first Silver who was really a Silver imposter?   Why
                does the name Kent Bogart keep going through my head?
                I'm confused.
    
    - K
    

    
    Kathryn --> I am dying!  I wanted to know all about that Erica/NUN
    imposter business, back in the old file too!  Maybe someone out there
    can remember!  All I can remember was when Erica had to climb through
    a window in her Nun's habit because someone was chasing her!  
    
    I bet DECWET::RASK is out there and knows all about this Nun story!
    
    --dc  

    Carl's father was a man named Carl (forgot his last name).  He
    died in a plane crash on his way to marry Nancy Grant.  Nancy
    eventually married Frank Grant, M.D. 
    
    Frank Grant was Jessie's uncle.

    Hi DC.  Sorry, I wasn't watching much during the Nun story line.
    
    However, I do have some corrections to this file.
    
    15.16 - Phil and Tara were married at a roadship chapel, not in a
            motel.
            
            When Phil returned, Chuck and Tara stayed married for quite a
            while, but eventually, they did get remarried.  I don't
            remember exactly, but I don't think the marriage turned
            out that great.  There was still a very strong bond between
            Chuck and Tara. 
    
    15.42 - As I remember it, Jesse was Frank's nephew, not Nancy's.  In
            fact, at first Nancy didn't like Jesse very much, but Frank
            kept telling her to give him a chance.  She finally grew to 
            love him.  (Remember, when Jesse first arrived on the scene
            he was really bad news).
    
    

    Just think... If Erica divorces Travis and marries Jack, she'll
    be  Erica ... Montgomery Montgomery Montgomery!
                                   

    
    Although I don't know all the actual names, Erica was married 8 times. 
    This was detailed in the old notes file as well as confirmed when
    Susan Lucci had her little stunt on Saturday Night Live.
    
    

    RE: .-1
    
    Yes, the "..." was supposed to mean that I omitted the other 
    names intentionally. I just thought it was funny that not only had she 
    married the same guy twice, but would add the name again, when she 
    married her brother-in-law! Only Erica!

    
    Does anyone remember anything about when Mark Dalton was a drug
    addict?  Was Brooke involved?  Who captured him and why did they
    get him started on drugs?  Was Brooke writing a story or was she
    still working for the TV station?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    Mark Dalton started using drugs when he became involved in
    writing songs in NYC.  He started running around with a
    lot of high-powered-fast-paced people.  I don't think
    Brooke was involved.
    
    Nancy

    Mark got started on drugs when he was a song writer in New York.
    It was introduced to him by someone in the business.  At the time
    he was also singing at Chateau when it was managed by Ellen. He
    got hooked and eventually couldn't function.  I can't remember
    if he was involved wi

    continued  from 15.55
    
    th Brooke or married to Ellen during this time.  At one time when he 
    was high he gave Ellen a shove which landed her on her rump which 
    resulted in a miscarriage, and then I think eventually a divorce.    
    It's been so long that all the storylines seem to blend in together.
    

    
    I remember Mark was framed for some drug sale and he was in this 
    big old house, being forced to take IV drugs.  I thought Brooke
    was able to escape and eventually get him rescued.  I sort of
    remember gun fire....  By the time he was freed, he was a hopeless
    addict.  Maybe Brooke wasn't involved at all --> I can't remember!
    
    --dc

    I thought Brooke, Erica and Ellen were the people who tried to help him
    with his drug problem, I know Erica and Ellen did, I can't remember if
    Brooke was the third person or not.

    	When Mark was in the house Brooke was also held captive. Mike Roy
    resuced them. They were running from the house and that's when Mike got
    shot only to die shortly thereafter.
    	Remember when Mark thought he might have had aids this was when
    Cindy was in town.
    Barbara

    
    
    Wasn't the house they were all being held captive in, the house of
    some powerful judge?
    
    

    
    I sort of remember this big house and Mike Roy and Brooke are
    escaping with guns being shot everywhere.  Mark was held captive
    and shot up with the drugs.  BRYDON --> I think you are right,
    there was some Judge mixed up in all of this!  Eventually, he
    was brought to justice.
    
    Didn't Mark finally escape and Erica hid him in her attic?  Was
    she still married to Adam at the time?  Or did she already have
    the house she is in right now?
    
    Mike died in the hospital and Erica sobbed over his body!  She
    blamed and still hasn't forgiven Brooke for getting Mike involved 
    in this adventure!  BTW, if anyone wants to borrow it, I still 
    have the tape where Erica attempted to win another lost Emmy,
    as she cried over Mike.
    
    Wait a minute --> Erica and Mike lived in this little cottage!
    How was she seeing Mike while still married to Adam?  Now I am
    more confused!  Help!
    
    --dc

	I'm alittle soft in the brain when it comes to remembering, but
	wasn't Mike a writer who was writting Erica's biography or 
	helping with her autobiography?   If so, I think that was before
	Adam came into the picture, but I really don't remember.  It's 
	all kind of fuzzy in my mind.

							-Lisa

    It was at the same time Adam came into the picture.  Erica and Mike
    were working on Erica's book.  Erica and Mike were falling in love. 
    Adam was the one producing the movie of Erica's book and decided he
    wanted Erica for himself.  He proposed and Erica after going back and
    forth (yes, like with Travis and Jackson) she decided Adam could give
    her a better life (HA).  But after she and Adam got married (after she
    and Tom slept together the night before her wedding, ruining Tom and
    Brooke chance of reconciliation), she decided she wanted Mike.  Adam on
    the other hand didn't want to divorce her. (here's where I get fuzzy) 
    Didn't Adam hold her prisoner on an island and Mike (and I think this
    is when Jeremy got introduced) save her.  Then she and Mike were going
    to finally get married, and Brooke and Mark were involved with this
    drug thing with JUDGE MARTEL and Mike went to save them (i think Jeremy
    was in on this too) and Mike got shot and of course Erica blamed Brooke
    for involving Mike and Mark in her schemes.  Jeremy and Mike had met on
    Mike's trip to Tibet (I think this was part of Erica's decision to
    marry Adam, to punish Mike for going on this trip) and now Jeremy was
    here and felt he was sent here as Erica's protector.
    
    Whew, I think I've done enough for one day, I'm ready to go home;^)
    
    /red
    
    
    
    
    [judge martel]

    
    /red --> you are nominated for the AMC Hall of Fame!  After reading
    your last note --> I can remember all that stuff with --> 
    
    Mike/Erica/Adam/Jeremy/Tom/Brooke/Mark/Judge Martel and the book
    about Erica's life story!  Thanks! (^%
    
    --dc

    Does anyone know who Brooke's mother is??
    
    Lisa

    
    Lisa --> Brooke's mother turned out to be this bag-lady!  They
    finally got reunited and shortly after that, she left the show!
    Her name was Jane!  Phoebe hated her!  (^%
    
    I never understood this --> I thought Brooke's father was a big
    drug-lord....  When Jane confessed that she was Brooke's mother, 
    this never came up?  Maybe she was a big-time imposter!
    
    --dc

    After watching Oprah yesterday, here's the running total for Erica's
    husbands...
    
    (1) Jeff Martin
    
    (2) Phil Brent
    
    (3) Tom Cudahy
    
    (Mike Roy--They were never officially married, they married themselves
     on his death bed)
    
    (4) Adam Chandler
    
    (5) Travis Montgomery
    
    (6) Travis Montgomery
    
    She was supposed to marry Nick Davis, but he left town before they
    were to be married.
    
    
    
    Lisa

    dc:  Brooke's father (I think his name was Ed English - not sure)
         was married to a woman who was the drug king-pin.  Her code
         name was "Cobra" and she in tight with the family lawyer who
         did a lot of her dirty work.  I may be wrong, but I can vaguely
         remember her being responsible for Brooke's father's death.
         I'm not sure how Jane worked into this eventually because I
         was living in Europe for about a year and I think that must be
         when Jane was in the storyline.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Wasn't Brooke's mother (her real one, not the one pretenting to be)
    found by Brooke when she was doing a story on homeless people?  Wasn't
    she a bag lady?  Did Phoebe feel threatened by her (thinking she was
    taking Brooke's affections from her)?
    
    Where did she go when she left Brooke's?
    
    /red

    Brooke's mother was a drug king-pin and I think she kidnaped
    Brooke.  I think Brooke and Tom were married then.  There was
    this whole adventure about this which I only vaguely remember
    because this was YEARS ago.
    
    The women who was the bag lady (I think) was pretending to be
    Brooke's mother.  Either that or they were both Brooke's mother
    and the writers forgot about the first one.
    
    Nancy

    
    Nancy you are probably right!  That bag-lady, Jane, couldn't
    have really been the drug king-pin who was originally Brooke's
    mother?  I bet this is a real bonafide AMC blooper --> Drug
    king-pin turns bag-lady and loses memory in the process?  Nah!
    
    --dc

    the Woman, Peg English, who was the drug king was not Brooke's real
    mother.  Her real mother was Jane the bag lady.

    
    Elaine --> Jane the bag-lady was really her mother!!!!!!  I have 
    these foggy memories of Peg English and Phoebe getting along so 
    well!  Since Peg was a big-time drug king-pin --> I can't imagine 
    this being true??????  Please tell me I am wrong!!!
    
    --dc

    Hi, I'm here.  I remember what Elaine remembers, Peg English was really
    nice when she first came on the show.  I remember her having auburn
    hair and being very attractive.  Anyway, she and Pheobe got along very
    well (they were sister-in-laws).  Then all the talk about Cobra started
    and I remember someone being on the phone with Cobra, but you couldn't
    hear the person's voice.  Then the screen switched and there was Peg
    English on the other end of the phone, giving orders.  I think she
    ended up dying when the story came to a close.
    
    Peg finally told Brooke that she wasn't her real mother towards the
    end.
    
    I also remember that Jane (the bag-lady who was Brooke's real mother)
    used to take care of Laura for Brooke when she went to work.
    
    Cheryl

    Your right Cheryl, it was after Brooke found out Jane was her mother
    that she started all the work with the homeless shelter.  And although
    it hasn't been mentioned for a while she was suppose to be investing
    most of the money she got from the settlement with Adam to build
    another shelter

    Right Elaine, and Ross was the one in charge of construction.  Remember
    when he left he apologized for not being able to see the job thru but
    he couldn't pass up this wonderful oppurtunity, of a great job away
    from the miserable Pain Valley.
    
    /red

    /red   that's right, I had forgotten about that

    So what you all are saying is that Ed English had an affair with a 
    bag lady?  Or was he married to this woman before he married Peg and 
    got custody of Brooke?  
    
    
    Also, way, way back, didn't Brooke want Mark really badly?  I remember
    her trying to get pregnant by him.  Didn't she used to be really
    wild?
    
    julie v. 

    Julie,
    
    I'm not too clear on the Ed English/Bag Lady story, but I do know
    that YES, Brooke was wild in her younger days.  Her original love
    interest on the show was Benny Sago who was a biker type, then
    Phoebe took him under her wing and hired him as her chauffer.  He
    was the one who nicknamed her "the Duchess".  At first, Phoebe couldn't
    stand Benny and was always after Brooke for the types she hung around
    with, but then Brooke started seeing Dan Kennicott and she calmed
    down from there.  After Dan, she was interested in Mark Dalton, then
    married Tom, split with Tom while pregnant and went back to Mark who
    helped her deliver the baby if memory serves me correctly and then
    got back with Tom again.  Adam came along after she and Tom split
    for the second time.  BTW - she never married Mark although there was
    a time when she was desperately in love with him.  He was a music
    professor at PVU then.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    Does anyone remember the name of that Doctor who always wore a flower
    in his lapel?  He was the guy who was working with Goldie Kane in order
    to get Erica to come to Cobbler's Island to kill her!  He had some kind
    of strange power over Silver Kane.....  What was his name?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    Doctor Lazare??
    
    Jo

    
    Jo --> Dr Lazare!  I can't believe I couldn't remember his name! (^%
    OMT --> did he die in that boat accident off Cobbler's Island, or did
    he get away?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    I don't think that they ever found the bodies of Goldie or Dr. Lazarre.
    I think they left that open.
    
    Jo

    Dr. Damon Lazarre...is going to be reprising his first role on a soap,
    that of Carl Hutchins on Another World...he fell into the water on that
    show and was never found.  if he's going to resurface there, perhaps he
    and Goldie will show up again eventually on AMC.

    Does anyone remember the name of Tad's first wife.  She was in high
    school and I think got pregnant but then lost the baby but kept on
    faking the pregnancy in order to marry Tad.  I think they even lived
    with the Martin's during all this.  Her (Tad's wife) mother was a real
    wild woman... That's about all I remember.
    Thanks.
    Bye,
    Mary

    re: Mary...Tad's first wife was Dottie Thornton and her mother was Edna
    Thornton, Edna use to be a riot.

    
    	Well I'v flown threw AMC History and red has mailed me some
    	info..Thanks red..
    
    	But...who is Mr U, is he Beanie ?  If so I'm lost..
    
    	deb g
    

    Mr U is also known at Stan Ulitowski, Palmer's sidekick and former 
    prison roomie.  Other names for Stan...
    
    Stan the Beanie Man
    Beanie
    Beanie man
    Mr U
    Uli
    
    Beanie man was engaged to Opal before Palmer married her.
    
    Jo

    
    Does anyone remember if Brooke was ever a murder suspect with the
    Zach Grayson killing?  Was he romancing her, too?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    
    Can anyone remeber the name of Marion Colby's husband?  The one
    who died from a heart attack?  Thanks.
    
    --dc

    
    Was Erica already married to someone when Mona Kane stole
    Charles away from Phoebe?  Was it Jeff Martin?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    
    --dc
    
    Wasn't that around the time that Mark Dalton came to PV ?  And didn't
    Mark & Erica have an personal type relationship and even plan on
    getting married when they found out they ehh...couldn't ????????
    
    deb g
    

    
    Deb --> I can't remember if Mona was stealing Charles away from
    Phoebe when Erica was married to Jeff --> was she married to Jeff
    then?
    
    I do remember Mona having to tell Erica that she couldn't date
    Mark Dalton because he was her half-brother! (^%  What else was
    going on then?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    
    --dc
    
    I don't think Erica was married to Jeff then.  I think she was single.
    BUT..what about Nick, wasn't he after Jeff.....?? 
    
    What are we talking here...15 years ago maybe...
    
    gotta run
    
    deb g
    

    
    Deb --> I thought Nick came before Jeff?  Someone please straighten
    us out here!  We are starting to get really confused!  Help!!!!!!!
    
    --dc

    
    I'm confused too..I was looking back in the history notes...
    note #.67 has Erica's husbands listed as
    
    	1. Jeff Martin
    	2. Phil Brent
    	3. Tom Cudahy
    	   Mike Roy timeframe (no legal wedding)
    	4. Adam Chandler
    	5. Travis M
    	6. Travis M
    
    I would guess that Nick was between Phil & Tom, I think I remember
    Nick leaving and Erica running next with Tom.
    
    I think Mona was stealing Charles after Phil, Nick timeframe but before
    Tom.
    
    Now dc do I have you totally confused or shall I try again.  What do
    you think.  I could be way off base, this is eons ago.
    
    deb g
    

    
    I thought Nick was after Jeff but before Phil! (^%  I can't
    be sure --> didn't Nick also date Mona?  If so, then Mona
    stole Charles from Phoebe after Phil, but before Tom?  I am
    starting to sound like Kathryn MacDonald when she tries to 
    solve the "who is killing Palmer with the CRS-17 poison!" (^%
    
    Someone, please put me out us out of our misery --> help!!!!!
    
    --dc

    DC:  Mona and Nick were real good friends.
    
    I cna't remember exactly when Mona & Charles got together,  it seems
    like she worked as his secretary form the beginning.  Phoebe was a real
    B*tch at the time.  It took a while to really get Mona & Charles
    together so that would have been after Erica & Jeff, but I don't know
    exactly when.
    
    Hope I didn't confuse you any more!!! (*8
    
    Robyn

    
    hey dc...I'm loosing it..what was the original question....
    
    :-)     just kidden
    
    I'v laughed so much today from this note file my stomach hurts.
    
    deb g
    

    
    Me too! (^%  My cheeks are numb!  Okay --> so Erica was married to Jeff
    and living in what is now Myrtle's house, Mona and Charles fell in love
    and Phoebe was left out in the cold with her mink coat!  I think this is 
    right?  So, Erica wasn't still living at home when Mona had this torrid
    affair with Charles, 'cause she was married to Jeff?  Is this right?????
    
    --dc

    No, no, dc...  The house that Myrtle lives in was Erica and *Phil's*
    little love nest.  She got pregnant, had a miscarriage, went beserk,
    got divorced, got fat, went to fat farm, lost weight, came back,
    sold the house, took up with Nick who had come back to town, he dumped
    her, she married Tom.  During all this time, Mona (or, as Phoebe called
    her "that Kane woman") was happily married to Charles Tyler who was the
    chief of staff at the hospital.  Yes, indeed, she was his long-time
    secretary and was there for Charles after Anne died and Phoebe became
    an insufferable drunk.  Nick and Mona (as someone already mentioned)
    were nothing more than very close friends.  Nick (at the beginning of
    AMC) owned a dance studio and Kitty was his sidekick.  For some reason
    that I don't know, they always seemed kind of sleazy to me.  Kitty
    later married Linc Tyler (much to Phoebe's dismay) and they moved
    away.  Kitty died (the actress who played her was Francesca Something-
    or-other) and then some years later she came back to the show as
    Kelly - Kitty's twin sister.  If memory serves me correctly, Linc
    married her also.  This was when Myrtle came into the picture and I'll
    get into that later.  Now, are you thoroughly confused?  And to answer
    your original question, no, Mona was not married to Charles Tyler
    while Erica was married to Jeff Martin.
    
    Kathryn (RP and historian, not always accurate, though)
    

    Kathyrn:  Great walk down memory lane!! I don't know how you do it but
    once you start bringing up all the old names and events, it's like "oh
    yea, I remember that"! Thanks.
    
    Question:  Didn't Anne lose her baby and then like lose her mind and
    carry around a doll or hang out by the crib or something weird like
    that before she died?  Didn't they even at one point commit her or
    think about it? I'm not sure but somehow something like the above rings
    a bell.
    
    Bye
    Mary

    
    Hi Mary --> I know!  I don't know how Kathryn does it!  Here's
    a little info on your question!  It wasn't Anne who walked around
    carrying a baby doll... It was zoftig Donna!  She conceived her
    baby while stranded by an avalanche --> facing certain death, she
    and Chuck slept together in a very convenient cave, one last time! (^%
    
    She tried to pass the baby off as Palmer's --> since she was newly 
    married to him, but he was impotent at the time and knew she was 
    lying!!!!!!!  The fire occured at Ellen's restaurant (the Chateau)
    on the night of zaftig Donna's singing debut!  (^%
    
    It was another major fire in the continuing AMC fascination with fire 
    and it's concurrent devastation!  (^%  The baby was in his crib and 
    perished in the flames!  You can imagine how this affected Donna!  She 
    was a total basket case for months...... Carrying around that toy baby 
    doll was only a surface manifestation of much more serious problems!
    
    Is this all coming back to you now????????  (^%
    
    --dc
    

    Erica got fat and had to go to a fat farm?!?!?!?!  Say it isn't so!!!
    
    Jo

    Erica was pregnant in real life, and that was the way the show dealt
    with it. 

    Kathryn:
    
    Did you take the class "Becoming an Everyday Genius" or what?  Where do
    you get your memory power!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    
    Jackie
    

    Aw, come on guys...  I'm certainly no Cheryl Acquafresca.  Now *she's*
    the one who really remembers the interesting stuff and brings the
    memories back.  I guess her new job must be very demanding because
    we rarely see her in here anymore.  I miss you, Cheryl!!!
    
    dc, you are correct about Donna and the doll, but there's one small
    nit (don't you just hate how I always pick on you?!)...  Palmer was
    never impotent until now (a side-effect from the poisoning) - but
    he's always been *sterile*.  See, he was in this polo accident and
    well, you get the picture.
    
    And the other question about Anne...  Yes, she did go nuts after her
    daughter died (the baby was born with Down's Syndrome) and she was
    institutionalized for a time.  She, BTW, was the original owner of
    the boutique.  She died when someone tried to kill her husband, Paul
    Martin (Dr. Joe's brother) who was DA at the time.  They put a bomb
    in his car or something - no, maybe it was their house - oh, I forget,
    but anyway, Anne was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    I also believe that they had their child institutionalized, but I
    forget how she died.  It could have been an illness like pneumonia or
    something.  At any rate, there's still a ton of stuff that I don't
    know because I didn't watch the show all the time.  I can remember
    back 21 years ago when I was home from school for about two weeks
    with my sister just as AMC aired its very first episode.  We watched
    it and got hooked.  She was about the same age as Chuck, Tara, Phil,
    and Erica at the time (well, maybe a little older) so that may be
    what first interested her.  I was only 11, but wanted to be exactly
    like my sister so I did everything she did.  She didn't stick with
    AMC but I did obviously.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    OK, guys, just what happened to Dr. Charles Tyler anyways? I don't
    remember him ever dying -- no funeral, etc. Did he just go off to a 
    medical convention and never come back? Does anyone remember how he
    left  the show? 
    
    By the way, did you know that he was/is in real life the husband of
    Madeleine L'Engle, author of childrens' books (A Wrinkle in Time).
    
    KAren

    One more thing I forgot...  Yes, Jo, our own Erica Kane became
    fat and was begged by Mona to "go away and lose some weight, for
    God's sake!  You're falling away to a ton!"  And I believe that
    astute noter (a few back) was correct when she said it was because
    Susan Lucci was pregnant in real life.  On the show, Susan was gone
    for a few months (Erica supposedly went to fat farm in Arizona)
    and I think it was when she came back that she decided to try out
    being a model.  She was the something-or-other girl... I can't
    remember...  Now that's a good question, folks.  Anybody know
    what product Erica was the spokeswoman for?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    The man who played Charles Tyler passed away some years ago...
    When actors or actresses on AMC die in real-life, the writers
    of the show have them die on the show.  Charles' death on the
    show was real low-key and handled much the same way as they
    handled Kate Martin's death.  Charles died before Kate, but I
    can't remember exactly when it was.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    Kathryn --> for an "invisible woman" you sure can remember a lot
    of facts! (^%  I am totally astonished!  (^%  I think Erica was 
    the spokeswoman for "Sensuelle" (SP?)?????  Remember when she
    was cavorting with the New Orleans Saints football team in the
    Superdome?  
    
    --dc

    DC:  I remember the Saints and Erica, what a trip!! She has had quite a
    few atheletes on the show with her hasn't she? Wasn't Danny Sullivan,
    the racecar driver on one time too?  Maybe that's what ol'Erotica needs
    to keep her happy... a big strapping football player ...
    
    I do remember Erica working for Sensuelle but was there something
    before that or was that her first modeling assignment?
    Bye
    Mary

    Oh, dc...  you win the prize for today.  I couldn't for the life
    of me remember the name of that product, but right you are...
    Sensuelle (sp?) is definately it.  Thank-you...  It won't be bugging
    me anymore.
    
    - K
    

    Before Erica became the spokeswoman for Sensuelle Cosmetics,
    she was a model for Lacys Department Store.  Remember how she
    got the Sensuelle job ?  She was married to Tom and Sensuelle
    wanted a male/female modeling team and Erica (without Tom's
    knowledge) sent in her and Tom's picture and they liked Tom.
    When Erica tried to talk Tom into becoming a model with her,
    her refused and Sensuelle didn't want Erica without Tom.
    Just one of her many sneaky scheming manipulations.
    
    One of my favorite lines from when Erica was fat and Mona
    was after her to lose weight - Erica and Mona were at the
    dinner table and Erica says 
    "shut up and pass the potatoes, Mother!"
    Don't ask me why I remember that line from all those years ago!
    
    It's going to be fun watching a single very angry Erica deal
    with SAdam as a business partner.
    
    Nancy
    

    
    Nancy --> I don't know why either --> but I sort of remember Erica
    telling Mona to "shut up and pass the potatoes," too!!!!!  Mona was 
    never very accepting of her daughter, was she! (^%  Nancy --> did Tom
    ever finally model with Erica at Lacys' Department Store?  This must
    have been the beginning of the end with Tom, since Erica kept popping 
    the birth control pills while Tom was planning on having a baby with
    Erica.
    
    Didn't Erica get and take the job with Sensuelle in secret?  Tom didn't
    want her to do it?  Here I go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    --dc

    Oooh, Nancy --->  You *definately* deserve the title "AMC Historian".
    You brought back quite a few great memories...  I had forgotten all
    that Tom stuff until now.  And I can't explain it, but I can see how
    the "pass the potatoes" comment would stick with you over the years.
    I can imagine what the scene was like and must have been quite funny.
    
    Remember the other thing(s) Erica did behind Tom's back?  He wanted
    to start a family and she was taking birth control pills...  She
    wanted to open a nightclub and he was against it - and I think that
    when she finally did open up "Erica's", that was the straw that broke
    the camel's back and they finally split up.  Is this correct?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    You guys are gooooood with those memories...  
    
    When Erica opened up "Erica's" didn't she have some big entertainer
    open for her club?  Why does Stevie Wonder come to mind?  
    
    Remember when Tom and Erica were married, whenever they had a problem
    and especially when Tom found out she was taking the bc pills, he
    always counselled with a priest.  What was his name????
    
    Bye
    Mary

    Yes, Katheryn, and remember before that when Erica remodeled
    the Goal Post behind Tom's back.  The Goal Post originally
    had a football theme.  Tom wanted the restraunt to capatilize
    on his ex-pro football status.  One day Tom went out of town
    and Erica had the Goal Post remodeled to look like an Irish
    restraunt with lace curtains, etc.  Tom came back, saw what
    she'd done and threw a fit.
    
    No, dc.  Tom never became a model at Sensuelle with Erica.  He
    refused and she almost didn't get the job because of it.
    
    Nancy
    

    
    Nancy --> what was the final straw that broke Erica and Tom up?
    Was it the lying about the birth control pills or Sensuelle????
    Or was it something else --> like Brandon Kingsley?  Wasn't 
    Brandon the son of the owner of Sensuelle?  Thanks!
    
    --dc
    

    I always thought the final straw was when Erica went behind Tom's
    back for the last time and opened Erica's...
    
    - K
    
    Nancy and Mary -->  Now that you guys mention it, she pulled a lot
    of tricks on Tom, didn't she?
    
    - K

    I think the priest's name was Father Tierney?
    
    Also, when was Erica involved with the An American Beauty campaign?
    I can't remember when she was fat.  
    
    Kim

    I think the final straw was when Tom found her birth control
    pills - partly because she was lieing to him pretending that
    she wanted a family but what she really wanted was to be a model.
    
    Nancy

    I also remember when Erica opened up the nightclub Erica's.  I
    think Stevie Wonder performed and Dick Cavett covered the opening
    and interviewed Erica.  
    
    Stephanie

    
    I can't remember ERICA'S club --> was it before Sensuelle and after
    she redecorated the Goal Post without telling Tom?  Maybe some other
    events might help me re-sequence my memory!  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    
    
    Kathy told me who Andrew was......now, what has happened to him?  Did
    he die?  He didn't try to kill Alex Hunter did he?  Is he off the
    program for good?
    
    Jackie

    Jackie not only is Andrew off the show...he went to jail, but he's
    continuing his life of crime on Columbo...he murdered his teacher on
    the Columbo Goes to College episode that was on a couple of weeks ago.
    He was Cynthia Preston's son on AMC, she was trying to land Palmer and
    PC took Andrew under his wing.

    He was also on LA LAW a few weeks ago.  He played the ex-lover of
    Rickie Something-or-other who was accused of murdering her aged,
    terminally ill husband.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    
    Andrew did successfully murder Jeremy's father.  

    Did anyone see the former Julie Chandler in her new show last week.  I
    watched it and it was good.  She plays a lawyer, a prosecutor.  She did
    a good job in the role, but it is hard to picture her as anything else
    but sweet little Julie.
    
    Jo

    re: Andrew murdering Jeremy's father.  I thought he was already dead
    before Andrew came on the show.  And I thought Natalie was the one who
    caused his death.  I am confused.  Anyone remember the details?

    
    
    Maybe its my faulty memory.  I thought that Andrew was trying to murder
    Ross and planted some kind of device under the saddle of the horse
    Ross was supposed to ride. (It was during some kind of social horsey
    event...like a fox hunt).   I thought somehow Alex Hunter rode Ross's
    horse and died as part of a horsing accident.  I thought also that
    either Jeremy or Ross's were initially blamed for the event, but that
    eventually it came out as Andrew who was afraid of losing Palmers
    affections/money because he was not Ross's son.
    
    
    Natalie had tried to get Alex Hunter to have a heart attack by seducing
    him.  Thats when she became pregnant with Timmy but ol' Alex didn't
    die.  When she found herself pregnant she seduced Jeremy and made him
    think he was the father.  There's more to this but I don't exactly 
    remember.
    
    I never remember this stuff in detail.  Its all sketchy.
    
    

    You're right, that is what happened.  Andrew cut the saddle, so Ross
    would fall off.  Then Alex rode the horse instead for some reason.  
    I am sorry that I doubted you.  So, where did his mother go to after he
    went to jail?
    
    
    Thanks, 
    Cheryl
    

    RE. 131
    
    >>  I thought that Andrew was trying to murder
        Ross and planted some kind of device under the saddle of the horse
        Ross was supposed to ride. 
    
	Very close...Andrew cut the straps on the saddle.  He was trying to
    kill Ross but for some reason he and Alex Hunter switched horses.  I
    can't quite remember which (Ross or Jeremy) was blamed for the accident
    but you are also correct about that.  Andrew was finally found out and
    sent off to jail.
    
    Marie
      
    

    
    Brydon --> thanks to your great memory and a few socks to the 
    head, I remember Andrew and the death of Alex!  Palmer was so
    cruel to Daisy at the time and Cynthia was so evil and sneaky -->
    I forgot how Andrew was responsible for Alex's death, in spite
    of Nasty Natalie's slinky lingerie!!!  (^%  
    
    --dc

	Does anyone remember when Liza got brutally beaten? I was wondering
    if she was also raped a the time. Came up because the actress that
    played her is doing a dual personality and one of her names is Lisa.
    	 Wasn't Alex being drunk and obnoxious the day of the hunt and just
    grabbed any horse within reach??
    Barbara 

    
    Barbara --> If you mean Liza Colby, I do remember her getting beaten
    up too, but not raped --> who did this to her?  Was it Andrew?  No,
    didn't Liza already leave the show before he showed up?  help! (^%
    
    --dc

    DC,
    	I think it was right after Liza found out about Tad and her mother
    and she went off the deep end. I think she was in C city and got beaten
    up by a bum or two I'm not sure. It definitely wasn't Andrew she was
    long gone before this.
   
    Barbara

    I really liked the Liza/Tad/Her Mother story line.  I miss Liza! Tad
    too...Too bad Liza is on Santa Borebara now.

    
    This is probably an easy question, but I can't come up with anything.
    Has either Ruth or Joe Martin ever strayed into the arms of someone
    else?  I was thinking that AMC has no long-standing marriages where
    neither party has messed around, but couldn't remember if Joe or Ruth
    had done anything long ago.  Anyone remember?  
    
    Cherie

    Yes, Cherie...  BOTH Ruth and Joe have strayed in the past.  Ruth
    got involved with a doctor named David Thornton (remember his creepy
    wife Edna and bizzarro daughter Dottie?)  And then there was the time
    when Joe got involved with the woman next door, uh, something-or-other
    Saunders or Sanders.  She had a daughter named Carrie who married
    Chuck at one point.  This woman (God, I can't remember her name!) was
    physically abused (beaten to a pulp, actually) by her husband and
    Joe sort of rescued her and they sort of fell in love.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    What are the funny lines that AMC characters have said over
    the years that stick with you?  There's got to be hundreds,
    but one that I remember the most was when Langly went to the
    airport to catch that horrible guy Wade that tried to bilk
    Phoebe out of all her money.  Remember, she actually married
    the slime?  Anyway, Langly is on this hot pursuit and Wade
    knows it, so he steals this woman's suitcase, goes into the
    bathroom and comes out in drag!  Langly spots him and a scuffle
    ensues.  Wade has a gun, but Langly gets it away from him, backs
    up, aims the gun at Wade and says:
    
    
    "GO ON!  MAKE MY DAY!"
    
    I realize you kind of had to see it to think it was funny.  And it
    wasn't really meant to be serious either, I don't think.  Just
    picture Langly....
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    Kathryn --> I think Carrie's mother was called Lenore!!!  Here's
    one for the funny line of the week --> This line was delivered by 
    Stan the Beanie Man to a shocked Palmer over a particularly
    annoying problem!
    
    	"jeesh boss, we are up to our asters in aphids!"
    
    --dc

    dc -->  you are quite correct.  Lenore was definately her name.
    Thanks.
    
    - K
    

    The funniest line I have heard is Erica saying:
    
    
    	I Promise, I will always be honest, no more lies!
    
    
    
    	Now, we all know......Erica doesn't know the difference between the
    truth and a lie!!!
    
    Jackie
    

    I have a name I can't place, and I need help:
    
    			Tony Barclay
    
    
    
    Jackie
    

	The only Tony I remember (and I don't really remember if it 
	actually was Tony), but there was a guy that used to model with
	Jenny.   They were going to get married and in the middle of the
	ceromony, Greg burst in, stopped the marriage, told Jenny he loved
	her and then they sneaked out. 

	Does anyone remember this more clearly?

    
    Isn't this the same tony that was responsible for Jenny's death?
    He did something to a jet ski that she was on... (wow that seems
    like eons ago...)
    
    Ron

	Yes, The guy I'm thinking of (well, call him "Tony" for now 
	until somebody confirms or comes up with his name) was responsible
	for Jenny's death.  I think his intent was to kill Greg but he 
	ended up killing Jenny instead.

    Lisa,
    
    You are correct.  Tony (and his last name was Barclay) did indeed
    intend to kill Greg and Jenny got on the jet-ski instead.  He was
    sent to jail, I believe.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Gaaaawwwd you gize are good!
    
    :*) Bon

    Who was the Black girl that worked at Foxy's and became real good
    friends w/ Jesse. I can't remember her name but it seems like she
    was trying to make it as a singer!  Does anyone remember her name?
    
    Robyn

    RE; 151
    
    Wasn't her name Vera or Vanessa or something like that?
    
    k2
    

    I think you are talking about two different people.  The was a good
    friend of Jesse and Jenny's who worked at Foxies whose name was Vera.
    Angie didn't like her at first, but they all became really close.  If I
    remember correctly she was Frankie Godmother.
    
    There was also a singer that sand with Jesse at a club whose name was
    Yvonne.  She ended up seducing Jesse and caused alot of other problems
    for Jesse and Angie.  I think she came back to the show later with a
    baby that Angie suspected was Jesse's.

    
    /red --> I could have sworn that Yvonne's baby {{{was}}} the offspring
    of Jesse!  (^%  Isn't that what drove Jesse out of his house and marriage
    with Angie?  Didn't he get killed after they made up, or were they still 
    fighting?  Did they ever capture Jesse's killer?   Here I go again!!! (^%
    
    --dc
    

DC ---> didn't Jesse's killer turn out to be Niko's uncle (can't remember 
his name)?  For the longest we thought it might be the black guy that
Jesse jumped in front of when he caught the bullet.  The black guy turned
out to be some FBI guy or something after Niko's uncle.  There's someone
else to add to Jackie's "Who's Left AMC List"  the black undercover guy.
Can't remember his name, but he was good-looking if I remember correctly.

KK

    
    KK --> it was Creed Kelly who killed Jesse!  Didn't he die falling
    out of a plane as he tried to escape the Pine Valley police?  
    
    --dc

That I don't remember . . . I'm having visions of a cabin in the woods and
Julie/Nico being in danager from Creed.  Someone comes to rescue them and
I think Creed gets killed.  Don't remember the exact details.  But then again
I could be all wet, he may have fallen out of a plane.  

KK

    The FBI guy was John Remmington "Remmy"
    

    Okay......Stephanie brought up some names I don't remember AT ALL!  So
    I need help!
    
    Who was:  Margo Flax
              Claudette Montgomery
    
    Also, did Yvonne have Jesse's baby or not?  If so what was his name?
    
    Jackie
    
    

    I don't think Yvonne's baby was Jesse's baby, but I do remember that
    she came back to Pine Valley claiming that the baby was 
    Travis Montgomery's baby. He was running for some political office
    at the time, and she was being coerced into blackmailing him by
    somebody (maybe the baby's father?).  Jesse got involved in
    helping Travis. Does anyone else remember that storyline?
    
    Karen

    I don't remember Yvonne claiming that the baby was Travis' (but
    I do remember *something* to that effect) but I believe that the
    baby was Yvonne's manager.  He was some sleazoid guy - I forget
    his name.  Or was the baby's father Jesse's cousin?  I forget
    his name too.  Boy, some historian I am, huh?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Okay, put on your thinking cap, Kathryn, in yesterday's show they
    showed an old friend of Kate's that was in the hospital.  My theory is
    that they just added her so Joey and Katie could look into each other's
    eyes.
    
    QUESTION:  Do you remember her being on the show before?
    
    
    Jackie
    

    I believe you are correct, Jackie.  Belle has never been on the
    show before, as we never even saw Katie when she was a youngin'.
    All of the escapes that Belle was reminiscing about were never
    shown.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Well, here I am again....
    
    Who has the info on Jason Maxwell.  This came up in the "Gone" topic
    today!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Okay, Cheryl and Kathryn.......neither of you know who this Jason
    Maxwell is?
    
    I don't believe that for a second!  You two have come with with names
    for the "Gone" list that I have to sit for a while and think about!
    
    Put on those thinking caps!
    
    
    
    %^)   %^)   %^)
    
    Jackie

    Was Jason Maxwell a producer?? Didn't Erica make a movie at one time?
    Seems to me that at one time the "EMPIRE CARPET GUY" was on the show,
    maybe that was him?????

    I may be wrong, but I vaguely recollect Jason Maxwell being the
    owner of a modeling agency that Erica worked for.  And (of course)
    she got involved with him.  I do remember that Mona was responsible
    for his death, too, but forgot why and how she killed him.  I think
    maybe she blocked it out and was a little psycologically screwed-up
    there for a while...  Hey Cheryl!  You remember?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    I don't remember Jason Maxwell, although the name is familiar.  Sorry!!
    
    Cheryl

    Yes, Jason Maxwell was the owner of a modeling company that Erica
    worked for and fell in love with.  Seems like they were living together
    for a while.  I can't remember why Mona killed him. Did she shoot him??
    But yes, she did block it out.  Wasn't Erica accused of the murder?
    I think they had to hypmotize (sp?) Mona for her to remember what she
    had done.  Now, I'm really curious what happened, why Mona killed him,
    maybe it will hit me in the middle of the night.
    
    Robyn

    Okay, Kathryn and Cheryl......here's a good one:
    
    Have you read in the AMC file that Phil Brent's twin comes into the
    picture on the show?
    
    Have you ever heard that there was a twin?
    
    jackie
    

    Yes, I read it.  Oh no, not another evil twin story!!!  Phil was never
    a twin, at least not the way I remember it.  But anything is possible?? 
    Afterall, they need to keep our attention some how.  Now, they would
    want to come up with a totally new idea, would they, like having
    another marriage like Ruth and Joe's (happy)!!!  No, just bring back
    people from the dead, have a new twin show up, etc.  Hey, maybe they'll
    bring back Billy Clyde's twin,  Billy Joe.  Now, wouldn't that be a
    trip!!!  Just kidding.
    
    But, seriously, I am getting confused on Ellen Dalton's Father.  Was it
    Shepard or Tucker?  I just looked it up in my SOD.  It was Harlan
    Tucker.  There was a question on who Devon's father was.  They answered
    that they didn't know who he was, but that Ellen's father was Harlan
    Tucker.  Well, I got the Harlan and the "ker" right!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheeryl:
    
    I LOVE IT...........Billy Clyde's brother....Billy Joe!  That's great,
    I am sitting here smiling andd people think I am not TOTALLY nutso!
    
    I can't wait to see how they fit this in, do you think that they will
    come up with the story that somehow someone stole the baby at birth? 
    Since there is that TV movie on or will be on about the two little
    girls being switched?
    
    Jackie   I LOVE THE SOAPS...THEY ARE SO UNREALISTIC.....speaking of
    which.....Kathryn where are you?  We haven't had an RP report for a
    long time!
    

    I have a funny feeling that this twin thing is going to happen.
    After all, they already brought Phil back from the dead once
    (he was supposedly killed in Vietnam) but then, when his helicopter
    went down in South America, his body was never recovered...  The
    twin thing is really far-fetched, but I think bringing him back from
    the dean *twice* would be more far-fetched.  I just wonder how they're
    going to work this into everything...  Like, where was he all these
    years.  How come Ruth didn't know?  After all, her own sister was
    Phil's mother and she was there when he was born.  Why wouldn't she
    say anything about a twin?  This makes no sense...
    
    - Kathryn
    
    P.S.  Ellen and Devon's last name may very well have been Shepherd,
          but don't forget that Harlan was Ellen's father and would
          therefore have a different last name.  Ellen and Devon had the
          last name of whoever Ellen married and fathered Devon.  And I
          believe his name was Harlan and not Adrian as mentioned earlier.
    

    Ellen and Devon's last name was Shepard.  Ellen was married to
    .... Shepard (I don't remember his first name).  When Ellen and
    Devon came to PV, Ellen's husband had left her for another woman.
    Then Ellen married Mark Dalton and she became Ellen Dalton.
    She actually married Mark twice and Ross Chandler in between so
    she would be
    
    	Ellen Shepard Dalton Chandler Dalton
    
    I don't remember if Ellen's maiden name was ever mentioned.
    
    Then Devon Shepard married Wally McFadden and she became
    
    	Devon Shepard McFadden
    
    I think she was only married once but I think that before she
    married Wally she was in love with Sean Cuddahy and he broke
    her heart and she started drinking a lot.
    
    Lots of people who drink a lot on this show.  Let's see,
    there is Tom Cuddahy, Devon McFadden, Skye Chandler, Arlene
    (can't remember her last name).  Can anybody think of any
    more?
    
    Nancy

    Ellen's maiden name had to have been mentioned at some time but I can't
    remember what it was.  When they first came to town they lived with
    Ellen's father (possibly parents but I only remember the father).  They
    lived next door to the Martins.
    

    Well, all we have to do is remember what Harlan's last name was and
    we'll have Ellen's maiden name.  So /red, you remembered it, right?
    I forget...
    
    - Kathryn
    

    It was Tucker, according to the SOD.  Harlan Tucker.  Ellen and Devon's
    last names were Shepard when they came on the show.    So, Ellen's
    maiden name was Tucker!!!
    
    Cheryl

    THAT'S IT!!!  I couldn't remember for the life of me.
    

    
    
    What is Tad Martin's middle name?  Is he Thaddeus J. Martin?
    I was wondering, because I thought that Brooke might name her baby
    after him somehow.
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie...
    
    It's James.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    I was talking to someone recently regarding Tad's middle name and
    they distinctly remembered that when Tad was adopted by Joe and
    Ruth, that Tad wanted his middle name to be Joseph.   Does that
    mean that it wasn't Joseph, but James instead?

    That's what Brooke said. She sed, "I hope nobody makes the connection
    between my Jamie & Thadeous James Martin."
    
    This *IS* soapland after all, Maybe they thought we wouldn't remember!
    
    Bonnie

    When the Martins adopted Tad, the only name they changed on him
    was his last name - from Gardner to Martin.  I'm sure if they
    wanted to change his middle name to Joseph, they would've changed
    Thaddeus too.  What a horrible name!  (Just IMHO, of course).
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Someone mentioned in AMC that Wilma Marlowe died.  I don't remember
    her dying in real life....can anyone help?
    
    Jackie

    Yes Jackie...  When she was written off the show (aka "gone on a long
    cruise) it was actually because she had passed away.  When they were
    playing the closing music for the show, there was a picture of the
    actress (sorry... forgot her name) with the year she was born and the
    current year.  I can't remember if she died in '89 or '90, however.
    I did see her shortly after in some TV movie.  I think she played a
    judge.  Quite the opposite of Wilma Marlowe.
    
    Also...  I happened to catch the actress who played Pat Baxter on
    Sesame Street the other day.  She played "Barbara the Barber".  I'm
    not sure when this episode was taped, though.  It could have been
    old, but she looked the same as the last time I saw her as Pat Baxter.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    -Kathryn:
    
    Is Pat Baxter dead too?  I mean in real life (I don't know her name).
    
    Jackie
    
    

    Kathryn--- AMC and Sesame Street?????
    
    /red

    Jackie -->  To my knowledge, anyway, the actress who played Pat Baxter
    is not dead.  I think her work on Sesame Street is current, although
    I could be wrong.
    
    /red -->  Yes!  I *LOVE* Sesame Street!  My daughter is now at the age
    (almost 20 months) where she is absolutely transfixed by the show.  Her
    favorite character is Ernie.  I got her an Ernie doll and she's in
    heaven.  We can't go anywhere now without "oineee".  I've heard from
    Bonnie that your daughter has a similar passion that mine has:
    
    Playing with washcloths!  I can't keep her away from them.  Wet or dry,
    they're her favorite play-thing.  Well, aside from Ernie that is...
    
    - Kathryn
    

    re: washclothes--
    
    I thought only my kids had these strange habits glad to know it's
    "normal", well it must be right, if your daughter does it too...
    
    re: ss--
    
    My oldest loved Ernie.  Poor thing, played with her stuffed one so
    much, his head came off.  That evoked massive hysteria.
    
    My youngest loves Elmo.  Elmo goes almost every where with us.  Elmo
    even got in the tub once...
    
    /red 

    I thought it was more appropriate to answer (or lack thereof) dc's
    question in the history.  Please move it back to the other file if it
    is confusing.
    ***********************************************************************
    Surprisingly, I don't remember much about Brooke's pregnancy with
    Laura.  Could it be that it was normal and not very memorable???? 
    Anyway, I do remember that the kid who played Laura didn't have any
    hair until she grew up and was played by another actress.  The baby
    Laura was played by Lorraine Broderick's (the head writer of AMC)
    daughter.  I worked with Lorraine's sister Corrine at the Mass. Medical
    Society and used to watch it at lunch time.  Everyone used to comment
    about this kid's lack of hair.  
    
    Kathryn or Elaine, I pass this one on to you guys!!
    
    Ruthie had a pretty normal pregnancy with Joey, although she was
    neurotic (to the point of obsession) that he might have Downs.  Sloey
    started out as a late-in-life baby, but since he's aged about 20 years
    in 10, it's no longer the case.
    
    Donna had a normal pregnancy with Jon, but the baby died in the fire.
    
    Ann Martin's baby, Beth, was born mentally retarded and died about a
    year or two after birth.
    
    Dottie Thornton had a miscarriage but pretended she was still pregnant
    so she could keep Tad.
    
    Erica had the first abortion ever on soaps.  Then, when she had Bianca,
    she was toxemic and had to be put in the hospital early.  Then she had
    "the dream" (the one with every man ever in her life present) and
    delivered Bianca, who they thought was a boy until she was born.
    
    Nina Cortlandt, Werner, Werner, Connolly, Werner (wow!), I think had a
    normal pregnancy with her son, Michael, but didn't he get really sick
    and she brought him back to PV to be treated by Cliff??
    
    These poor kids!!!
    
    Cheryl

Yup, good idea Cheryl.  I moved this here.
    
- K
    
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    dc:  What am I, invisible again???  Actually, Brooke's pregnancy
    with Laura went quite smoothly when it came to physical stuff, but
    she and Tom had split up prior to it and she was off in some other
    town (Llanview, I think) and was kind of living with Mark Dalton.
    Tom would come by and visit now and then, but I think Mark played
    an integral role in Laura's birth.  If I remember correctly, Brooke
    delivered at home and Mark played mid-wife.  I'm a little foggy on
    the details, but I know her pregnancy went O.K.
    
    Weren't *both* of Borebra's pregnancies O.K. too?  Aside from the fact
    that she went into labor while she and Tom were about to get married,
    I remember everything else to be quite normal.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    I don't remember much about Laura's birth...so you people are right it
    must have been normal.  I do remember Donna's hysterical pregnancy and
    figured they were heading that way the other day with EA.  I agree
    about those doctors, what ever happened to patient confidentiality? 
    Shouldn't EA be the one, not Joey who was told she wasn't pregnant? 
    And since when can you tell by a doctors face that something was wrong? 
    I certainly can't tell anything with my doctors, in fact I had all I
    could do to pry any info out of my surgeon, I got all my info on the
    operation from the surgeon I went to for a second opinion.
    
    I wish these soaps would be a little more realistic sometimes.

    Lisa in NH:
    
    In response to your question on Derek and Angie, they were kissing in
    that garden and then Angie said "I love you too Jesse".  Derek told
    Angie that she only loved him because he reminded her so much of Jesse
    and she wanted that type of relationship back in her life.  Angie
    protested this, but after talking with Ruth, she decided that he was
    right and they mutually broke off the relationship.  Angie decided to
    take a position as Chief of ??? (the only 21 year old doctor I know!!)
    in another state.  I forget where, but I think it may be Chicage. 
    Anyway, she and Frankie moved away very quickly.
    
    In reality, the show decided to write out the characters of Angie, Cal
    and Sharla.
    
    Cheryl

    thank you, thank you, thank you. 
    
    i didn't like angie in the angie/derek team. now i don't like 
    derek in the mimi/derek team. 
    
    c'est la vie.
    
    lisa in NH

    This happened before Donna was introduced onto the show.  Donna had
    appendicitis when she was working for Tyrone, her pimp.  Tyrone bribed
    the doctor into tying her tubes while she was having her appendix out. 
    
    Now we come to the part after Donna was introduced onto the show. 
    Donna was convinced that she was pregnant.  I think it was Dr. Clater
    (boy, he's been around for a while!!) who told Chuck that it was
    impossible because he found that Donna's tubes had been tied.  Donna
    was still convinced she was pregnant.  I remember that her stomach
    really grew to look like she was really pregnant.  It wasn't until she
    got help that she finally realized that she wasn't.  She was so
    insecure in Chuck love that the only way she felt she could keep him is
    to have a baby.
    
    The operation was reversed after Donna recovered but I believe she
    still couldn't conceive.  That is until that unexpected rendevous in
    the cave during the snowstorm with Chuck while married to Palmer.
    
    Cheryl

    That's the way I remember it!
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Nick Davis (again)?  Can anyone please refresh my memory about
    how he left the show --> it seems so long ago!  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    Kathryn's note at 15.101 has a good description of Nick.  I'll add a
    little.  He had an affair with Amy Tyler, Ruth's sister and got her
    pregnant with Phil.  So, he's Charlie's grandfather.  Also, he had an
    affair with Erica who was madly in love with him.  He tried to resist
    her because she was his good friend Mona's daughter, but succumbed to
    Erica charms.  Never mind the fact that she was always chasing him and
    trying to seduce him.  That would be sick behavior today, but then, it
    was persistant and entertaining.  They slept together a few times, but
    Nick realized that Erica wanted a father figure, not a lover in him and
    broke off the relationship.
    
    I think he ran the Chateau for a while and Ellen bought it from him. 
    He left town to run a chain of restaurants and has appeared on the show
    from time to time throughout the years.  Mona always called him Nicky,
    but no one else did.
    
    Cheryl

    Just read thru all this, and I have a partial answer to .159:  who
    was Margo Flax?

    Margo was married to Paul Martin (Joe's brother).  I think this was
    while Ann Martin was still alive, in fact I'm pretty sure she and Paul
    were "estranged" but Paul was still in love with her.  He definitely
    wasn't in love with Margo!  And she knew it, so in order to keep him,
    she faked a pregnancy.  She eventually wore pillows under her clothes.
    She arranged a trip to New York around her due date, and arranged to
    buy a baby while in NY.  Somehow this plot got foiled at the last
    minute.

    I distinctly remember her because I thought she was despicable.  (This
    was my first taste of the old "fake a pregnancy to keep a husband"
    story-line).

    Also in note .159 was a question about who was Claudette Montgomery.
    Anyone remember?  I remember the name, but that's all.

    
    Someone --> please refresh my memory about Nina and Cliff's 
    baby --> Bobby.  Cliff is the father --> but who was his mother?  
    
    Did Nina know the natural mother?  Were they friends?
    
    What was Palmer's role in the subterfuge --> I can remember him
    causing so much trouble --> but I can't remember what he actually
    did?  
    
    --dc
    

    dc
    	Bobby's mother was Cybil Thorne who was murdered by
    Sean Cuddahy.  I think Palmer encouraged Cliff and Cybil's
    friendship in hopes that Nine and Cliff wouldn't get back
    together.  Nina did know Cybil but I don't think they were
    friends.
    
    Nancy

    
    
    Can anyone point me to the note in this file that explains Bobby
    Martin?  We have a person who is just now starting to read our GREAT
    SOAPS conference and questioned Bobby Martin.  I would like to tell her
    what # it is.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jackie
    

    
    
    I just went thru every one in here and no one has explained Bobby
    Martin.  I know he went upstairs to wax his skis, but whose son was he,
    etc?
    
    Cheryl......You know?   %^)
    
    Jackie
    

    Bobby was Joe's son by his first marriage.  He was Tara and Jeff's
    brother and like Chuck on Happy Days, he just disappeared and was never
    mentioned again.  It's like he never even existed.  The running joke is
    that he went to the attic to wax his skis, but never came back down. 
    AMC even made a joke about it when Opal was locked in the Martin attic
    about a year ago.  There were a pair of skis hanging on the wall and
    she commented on them without mentioning Bobby's name.  We, who know
    the history know what she mean't though!!!
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl:
    
    Thanks a Bunch!
    
    Jackie
    

    And now I think they're doing the same thing w/ Joey!! He asked to be 
    excused from dinner the night of GEEKO & Erica's engagement dinner and
    has not been heard from since! I wonder if he's hungry yet?!?! ;*)
    
    Bonnie

    Bon:
    
    YOU'RE RIGHT.  I forgot all about that.....Wonder where he went? 
    HMMMMMMMMMMM......maybe visiting Bobby!
      ha ha
    
    Jackie
    

    
    
    I asked this in the regular file, but maybe someone here knows:
    
    What is Barbara's baby's name?
    
    
    Jackie
    

    that Sea City and Center City are actually two different places.  I
    didn't!!!  Sea City (in the show) is a beach resort town, somewhat like
    Atlantic City.  And, Center City is the home of the infamous Foxy's.
    
    Just an FYI!!!
    
    Cheryl

    
    Cheryl --> where is Locust Street?  Center City or Sea City?  Is the
    bar where Billy Clyde terrorized Lettie Jean in Center City or Sea
    City and what was the name of that bar again?  Not only are you the
    RP but you have become the AMC cartographer, too!  (^%
    
    --dc

    Sea City is the fancy resort town where Adam kept an apartment, and
    where Erica and Charlie had their tryst and filmed their first
    commercial.
    
    Center City is the sleazy town where Foxy's bar is, and where Lettie
    Jean and Billy Clyde hung out in that bar.  Wasn't it called the Harbor
    Lights or something like that?  Locust street is in Center City. 
    Locust Street was where Donna used to hook it. :^)
    
    Jo

    For a long time I thought that "SEA" city was"C-city" (the"C" being
    short for "center") /red & I argued about this for months. She insisted
    that it was "sea City", but I didn't believe her. Then one day, Hayley
    & Brian snuck out to a concert at the Sea City Arena, there was a wall
    w/ the name painted on it & that's how I finally came to believe /red!
    
    Also, someone (I'm sorry, I THINK it was Thel) asked about Hayley &
    Adam, and whether or not Hayley knew tha Adam was her father. It was
    during the Sea City Arena scenes that Adam sed he was Hayley's dad.
    
    There was a stampede at the concert they were seeing & Adam had heard
    that there was a teenaged girl injured. He was desperate to get on the
    other side of a blocked set of doors to see Hayley & make sure she was 
    alright. The guard wouldn't let him, so Adam sed, "I'm her father, Damn
    it!" So the guard led Adam to Hayley. Once there, Hay asked him, "What 
    the hell are *YOU* doing here?" They guard sez, "He sed he wuz your
    father." Hay sez to Adam, "You sed *WHAT!?!* Why would you say that?!?
    Adam told her he was just trying to make sure she was alright & the guy
    wouldn't let him by. She tells him that the thought of him being her 
    dad made her sick! He could never be her father, or take Harry's place!
    Adam was crushed of course!
    
    Well, that's my edition of AMC history! I never write in this topic,
    but it's fun reminiscing!!
    
    I just can't wait till the Nat in the well story is HISTORY!
    
    Bonnie

    Okay.........the AMC dinner is now HISTORY!
    
    So what's the entire scoop??????
    
    Jackie    ha ha
    

    
    Jackie --> check out the date file for your answer!  
    
    Can anyone refresh my memory about the night that Nasty Natalie 
    somehow got Jeremy drunk --> she acted like he made wild and
    passionate --> completely drunken love to her.  She later pretended 
    that Timmy was his son! 
    
    What was it that gave her away and caused Jeremy to find out that
    the baby was really the spawn of Alex Hunter?  Was Alex still alive 
    when this happened?  Thanks!
    
    --dc

    I think this was after Alex died.  Alex had left a video will, where he
    left his estate to the mother of his unborn child.  Therefore, Nat had
    to come clean, but then Wilma accidently/drunkenly erased the tape.
    
    /red

    /red
    
    You are right.  Nat wanted the money Alex left behind and Jeremy only 
    offered to take care of Timmy but not to marry Nat (she figured he'd
    marry her for Timmy).  The money was more important to her so she came
    clean but by then Wilma had erased the tape.
    
    Marie

    
    
    
    
    I'm posting this here because it's more historical than topical!!! (^%
    
    Nancy --> I remember it all now!  (^% Andrew was trying to kill Palmer
    and Alex got on Palmer's horse by accident --> so he got killed instead 
    of Palmer!  (^%  
    
    Nasty Natalie toasted Wilma with a big glass of sherry just before the 
    funeral!  What a grieving widow she was --> Alex's corpse was hardly 
    cold before she was making plans to seduce Jeremy!!!!!!!!!  (^%  Just 
    like the scheming --> BLACK WIDOW!!!!  (^%  Well, she sure ain't the 
    "BLUE DAHLIA!"   (^% (^%
    
    >>>"Natalie would never try to kill anybody."
    
    HA HA HA HA HA -->
    
    Well, just don't forget that your beloved "Huntress" (^%  --> Nasty 
    Natalie, pulled out a pistola and planned to use in on Erica Kane the 
    night before Tom's nightclub was about-to-open!  (^%  
    
    Just in case you forgot about this part --> I'll throw it in to remind 
    everyone that --> NASTY Natalie stuffed Silver Kane's still warm
    corpse under her couch, had that Sago woman over for tea and chatted
    like it was the day before the Emperor's Ball!!!!!!  (^%  Instead of
    notifying the police --> about SOMEONE GETTING KILLED IN HER LIVING
    ROOM --> she agreed with Palmer and let him DISPOSE OF THE BODY in the
    Duckpond!  (^%
    
    Then of course there was THAT torrid affair with Ross --> he was only
    her husband's (Palmer) son.  You do remember how Ellen suffered at
    that large hands of Nasty Natalie?  (^%
    
    Of course you remember how she left Virgil Mason to die all alone in
    the hospital room!  There is no doubt about the fact that this narly
    doll married Adam for money and power --> and I quote her as 
    saying --> "I WANT TO RULE THE WORLD, AND I WANT TO MAKE ERICA AND 
    PALMER SUFFER UNTILL THE END OF THEIR HORRIBLE LIVES!"  (^%
      
    You don't need me to go on and on about this narly doll --> send her 
    to the landfill!!!!!! (^% (^% (^%  So, long live Jezebel Janet --> who 
    knows what she is saying when she calls her double-chinned sister -->
    
    
    
    	{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{"SELFISH!"}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}  (^% (^% (^%  
    
    --dc

    I remember Margot Martin.  I don't remember too much about her trying
    to fake a pregnancy, but I remember her getting a facelift and having
    postcards sent to her loved ones from exotic vacation spots so that
    they wouldn't know where she was.  She did it because she was *SO* much
    older than Paul. 
    
    I forget how it all came out and how she got written out of the show,
    but I think that towards the end of the Paul Martin/Ann Martin reign,
    they were reunited.  Of course, Pheobe couldn't stand that relationship
    either.
    
    I can actually remember a lot of the early stuff but I'm sketchy on the
    

    VALMONT, no,no,no,no!  Natalie had the affair with Ross BEFORE
    she married Palmer - not during.  But it was while she was
    married to Palmer that Ross raped her but Palmer never believed
    her (sound familiar - he never believes his wives) and that's
    when he disowned Ross and divorced Natalie.  That's why Nat
    used to hate Ross and Palmer.
    
    True, she wasn't happily married to Alex but she didn't kill him.
    You have to admit he was a rat.
    
    And Silver attacked Nat with a knife and was going to kill her.
    Nat was just defending herself.  She was admittedly upset when
    she hid the body in the sofa.  And Palmer took advantage of her
    by pretending he was helping her when he hid the body in the
    duck pond.
    
    Really, VALMONT, Nat is just a poor helpless victim.  Again.
    
    I'm sure I can think of some more history details about poor Nat
    later.
    
    Nancy
    

    What were the circumstances surrounding the break-up of Hillary & Tad. 
    Didn't they get a lot of flack from Pheobe? I forget how this whole
    thing went, but I seem to remember Tad cheating on her or something???
    Doreen mentioned their relationship, but I don't remember the details.
    
    Thanks,
    Bonnie

    I think Tad and Hillery got divorced because Tad kep lying to
    Hillery and she couldn't trust him.  I think the final straw
    was when Aunt Phoebe gave Tad and Hillery a piece of property
    and Tad tried to sell it or turn it into some big development
    and make money and he was sneaking around and lying to do it.
    
    Does anybody else remember this?
    
    Nancy

Didn't Skye Chandler have something to do with Tad and Hillary's breakup?  I
remember Skye coming to PV and practically throwing her body at Tad.  I could
be wrong . . . it's been a long time.

KK

    C'mon, Cheryl.....Are you gonna straighten this out for us, or what?!
    I *KNOW* you don't forget a thing when it comes to AMC history! :*)
    
    Bonnie

    Tad had an affair with Skye Chandler, who had recently joined the show
    as a brunette with an english accent.  Hillary would not forgive Tad.
    
    /red

    
    /red --> didn't Hillary have an affair with Mitch Beck while Tad was
    playing around with the first Skye???
    
    Or was that after she divorced Tad for philandering! (^%
    
    What was the name of that woman in Texas that Mitch was protecting?  
    Phoebe went there to interfere and buy her off --> was her name 
    Carmen-Maria?????
    
    --dc, but YOU can call me Valmont! (^% (^%

    Mitch was well after Hillary threw Tad out, please, Hillary would never
    cheat on anyone.  She even sacrificed her happiness by getting married
    to Bob Georgia while she was in love with Tad, because it was the noble
    thing to do.
    
    /red

    A looooooong time ago, Donna was a hooker in C-city. Her pimp was a 
    scumbag looser named Billy Clyde Tuggle. Her best friend, also a
    hooker, was named Estelle LaTour (sp?). Estelle was raped by Billy
    Clyde, but chose to have her baby. This is who Emily Ann is.
    
    Estelle was fatally injured in a car accident when EA was just an
    infant. EA was in the car at the time as a matter of fact. On her
    death bed, Estelle asked Donna to care for her daughter as if she
    were her own. Donna made the promise to do so. Donna married a man
    named Benny Sago, who also accepted EA as his own child.
    
    Through Emily ann's upbringing, she always knew that Donna was not her
    bio-mom. But she always thought that Benny was her bio-dad. She had a
    very close bond w/ Benny because she thought he was her "real" father.
    
    I don't remember quite how this happened, but she & Benny broke up,
    Donna married Chuck for a while, but both men ended up divorcing her &
    left town for a long time. Billy Clyde ended up going to prrison for
    some reason or another. He had no idea that he had impregnated Estelle.
    
    EA & Donna were on their own for quite some time. Benny came back to
    town (this was a little over a year ago) and wanted to start anew w/ 
    Donna. His gambling addiction, which had ruined their marriage to begin 
    with, seemed under control. Donna was considering it, until she found
    lottery tix in Benny's jacket pocket & then Chuck (the love of her
    life) returned to PV.
    
    Around this same time, Billy Clyde re-surfaced too. He was hanging out
    in his old dive when one of his old hooker friends, Lettie Jean met up
    w/ him. She told BC that EA must be his daughter. Simple math confirmed
    this suspicion.
    
    Billy Clyde was determined to claim his Emmie-hunny-stelle-baby and
    tell her about her parentage once her won her over. He assumed the role
    of a personal manager/music producer, since EA was taking voice lessons
    at PVU, and he was sure he could captivate her this way. He called
    himself "Mr. John Henry Rockafeller". He ended up opening a teen-dance 
    club & called it cyclops, which he asked EA to sing in. SHe worked for
    BC for a few months.
    
    She began a relationship w/ Joey Martin, which Billy Clyde openly
    rejected the idea of. Emily ann couldn't stand Billy Clyde interfering
    in her personal business all the time. He was quite the psychotic, BTW.
    Finally she told him to stay out of her business & that he had NO RIGHT
    to tell her who to see & what to do. BC then told her he was her real
    father. EA was crushed. She had no idea what to do. She ran off & no 
    body could find her. Joey ended up finding her & he asked her to marry
    him. The family didn't want them to marry, but they eloped anyway.
    
    Dixie, not knowing how much of a nut BC was befriended him. Tad, Donna, 
    and the WORLD, basically told her that he was a danger to her, EA & 
    everyone involved. Donna told her that BC would just as soon kill her
    as look at her. Dix didn't listen. He tried to connive her into helping 
    him convince EA that he loved her & wanted a chance to be her pappy!
    
    Dix tried to tell him that he should just leave EA alone, but he
    refused. One day he went over to EA's & EA was pregnant & married by
    this time. Ea tried to run from him & ended up falling down the stairs,
    killing her unborn child. Dix was pretty ticked off at BC for not
    listening to her. He was ticked of at Dixie for telling him off, and
    had fallen in disgusting, perverted love w/ his Dixie-bird.
    
    He ended up getting in to Dixie's car & chloroforming her from behind,
    kidnapping her & taking her off to some cabin where he planned to have
    some pseudo, mail order priest to marry them. He had the dress, the
    flowers, everything. He kept her locked away there until Tad, Derreck &
    the PVPD stormed the place. Derrick enede up being injured so severly
    that he was confined to a wheelchair for months. 
    
    Tad got a phone call from someone Billy Clyde paid off, saying that he
    must come to the bridge (which was supposedly AT THAT TIME, way off in
    the country someplace, NOT IN PV!) and that it had to do w/ the Tuggle
    investigation. Billy Clyde was still on the run & he wanted to stop
    Tad & Dixie's wedding which was to be held on THAT DAY.
    
    Tad got to the area, BC tied him up in a box car w/ a bomb, but Tad
    escaped. He came after BC, who was running away from the area, but the
    bomb went off while they were battling it out on the bridge. Tad was
    never found, but BC's body was. 
    
    I think you know by now, that *WE VIEWERS* were the only ones who saw
    Tad come to, get up in a daze & wander off w/ some truck driver, not
    knowing who or where he was or how he got there.
    
    Emily Ann seemed to recover, but the noters here knew that it wouldn't
    be long before she began showing those tuggle genes!!!
    
    Adn the rest is history!! :*)
    
    Hope this helped....if you read this far!!! :*)
    
    Bonnie

    
    Bonnie --> you are now an official --> AMC Historian!  That history
    report was totally great! (^%  Billy Clyde Tuggle was the most evil,
    nefarious character {{EVER}} to appear on daytime TV.  When I think 
    of the time he was digging that macabre grave with Donna locked-up in 
    a nearby coffin, with a window in it, so he could bury her totally 
    alive --> it reminds me of Edgar Allen Poe!  (^%  Gawd --> he was 
    BAD!  Even though most of his dialogue was totally outrageous!!!! (^%
    
    --dc, but YOU can call me Valmont!  (^% (^%

    Cheer up you guys,  maybe someday Billy Clyde's totally evil twin
    brother will land in town seeking revenge for the mean way Billy was
    treated by the good citizen.

    Billy Clyde was going to bury Estelle in that grave, not Donna.
    Estelle was still alive, by the way.
    
    Billy Clyde was married to Estelle when he raped her and she
    became pregnant with Emily Ann.  Billy Clyde went to prison
    (forget why) and she divorced him.  Estelle then married
    Benny Sago while she was pregnant with Em and Benny always
    claimed paternity.  Knowing what a crazy Billy Clyde was, they
    never wanted anyone to find out who Em's real father was.
    Donna and Estelle were best friends and Donna knew.
    After Estelle died, Benny and Donna got married.
    
    Nancy

    One more thing Estelle (EA's mom) was married to Billy Clyde, but he
    did rape her.
    
    /red

    OOOUUUCH, Nanacy did you feel that??????
    
    8*) 8*)
    
    /red

    
    
    Bon ---> WOW!!!  When you remember something, you REALLY remember! :-)
    
    Thanks EVERYONE for helping me out!  It's tough to pick up a soap in 
    the middle... but all of you are helping to make it easier on me!
    
    Cheers!
    --Steph

    WOW NANCY!! I forgot about that...that Estelle & BC were married!!
    You're *QUITE* the historian!!!
    
    Glad we could be of help steph!!!
    
    Bon

    BTW,
    
    My last personal name was wrong. I'm *JUST SO SURE* I sent you into
    panic mode by saying x-mas is only 12 weeks away, when it's really 13!!
    
    I forgot Oct has 5 weeks! (that's one extra paycheck for christmas
    shopping!)
    
    Bon

    bon,
    
    just wanted to let you know i read the tuggle history too!!  Great
    Job!!
    
    Renee

    
    
    OK, this is going ***WAY*** back.  In fact, I'm not even sure if it
    happened on this soap.  I just know my mother used to watch AMC when I
    was real little...
    
    Anyway, I remember a woman being killed, I think it was during a
    robbery, and her ghost kept coming back and only her husband and son
    could see her (I think).  What was her name, who were her survivors,
    and does anyone else remember seeing her on *very* old "L'EGGS"
    commercials?  Or is all my imagination?
    
    --RAQ--
    
    P.S.  I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ALL THESE ENTRIES.  YOU GUYS ARE INCREDIBLE!!!

    I am going out on a limb here but I think her name was Mary, she was
    married to a doctor (was his name Jeff) I can't really remember which
    soap it was, I want to say One life to Live.  As a youngster I used to
    watch Edge of Night, One Life, All my Children and General Hospital
    with the teenage girls in the neighborhood and do remember this one
    too, just a little fuzzy!

    I'm not sure if that's the one you asked about but....
    
    >>I am going out on a limb here but I think her name was Mary, she was
      married to a doctor (was his name Jeff) I can't really remember
      which soap it was,
    
    That particular story was AMC.
    
    Marie

    
    That story was on AMC.  Her name was Mary Kennicott, Katie's older
    sister.  She was married to Jeff Martin.  Jeff was a dr Mary was
    a nurse.  She was pregnant when she was killed.  She did keep coming
    back as a ghost for a while, but I don't remember how that story
    line was finished.

    
    Steph --> Jeremy spent a long time with the monks in Tibet after his 
    Mercenary days.  He used to regularly have flashes of insight from 
    all of this training --> especially when he was dating Silver Kane.  
    
    He also used his "sixth sense" to rescue Erica from Cobblers Island 
    and when Adam kidnapped Erica!!!!!!!!
    
    Suddenly, he NEVER uses it or ever has a flash of insight about 
    anything at all!
    
    Dorca remembers when he used to have all these flashes, since he 
    knows that Jeremy went to study in Tibet!  They were Mercenaries
    together!!!!  
    
    Hope this helps!
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    In addition to what dc said... according to Websters....
    
    Mahatma... A Hindu title of respect for a man renowned for
    spirituality.
    
    Marie

    
    Well thanks DC and Marie!!  This helps tremendously!!  I knew I didn't
    have the name quite right, but I knew it was something like "Mahockma"
    or "Mahogma."
    
    It's a very sweet little pet name  :-) , and I notice that Porkchop is 
    the only one who ever uses it.  Must be a male bonding thaaaaaaang :-)
    
    Cheers!
    --Steph
    
    

    Mahatma is also a brand of rice. :^D  So that is what I think of when
    Trev calls Jeremy Mahatma...rice cake, rice paddy, etc. :^D
    
    Jo

    Hey Jo, you impersonating me now?  That's what I was going to say.
    Good thing I read all the replies before I entered mine.
    
    Maybe to Trevor "Mahatma" really means "my little rice cake".  You
    know how he does like food.  Sort of like how chou-chou in french
    means "my little cabbage head".  Oh, these cute little terms of
    endearment.
    
    Jan

    The way Trev goes for food, I would be careful if I was Jeremy and Trev
    was calling me his "little rice cake". :^D :^D
    
    Jo (impersonating Jo again)

    Steph--->Ya know, like Mahatma Ghandi? :*)
    
    Porkchop is funny!! He's got great nick names for everyone! This is how
    he got his own nickname. He calls Hayley "Tinkerbell", so she calls him
    Porkchop. He calls Natalie "Doll", he calls Janet "Janet from another
    planet", he calls Timmy "The Timman", he calls Ceara "Goldilox", he 
    calls Adam "pops", he calls Arlene "sis", ummmm I think that's it.
    
    He's a funny dude!
    Bon

    
    Just in case this hasn't been mentioned before, the departed nut case
    Emily Ann is now appearing in a MASSINGILL DOUCHE commercial!!  How
    appropriate!
    
    FP
    

    
    You guys are truly a riot!!  I get some of my best laughs from all of
    you... Thanks!!   
    
    "My little rice cake" ---> that is GREAT!!!  
    
    The only nicknames I've heard Porkchop use are "Doll" and "Tim Man."
    I love the Tim Man one!  I also think the little guy who plays Timmy
    is just adorable.  What a little sweetie!
    
    Thanks again everyone for all the great info!  
    
    --Steph
    

    Probably a real easy question for all you "historians" but my other
    half (yes, he watches now ever since Nat starting wearing those
    Fredericks of Hollywood nighties) was asking about Timmy's history. 
    Anyway, I remember most of it (Alex, no Jeremy, no Alex) but I dredged
    up something from those dark caverns in my mind about Jeremy delivering
    Timmy on a plane or something??? Should I take an adjoining room with
    EA and JJ or am I onto something?
    
    Thanks.
    Mary
    

    Actually, Clay (actually Alex Masters posing as Clay) delivered Ava's
    baby Sandy on the floor of an airplane on Loving.  If you watch both
    shows, you may be remembering that show instead of AMC.
    
    I don't recall any unusual events around Timmy's birth other than the
    paternity thing.
    
    Jo

    
    
    Could someone tell me what happened to the story lines of EmilyAnn,
    Joey, Stuart, Scott, Travis, Bianca, and Barbara??
    
    I didn't watch the show for a while (shame on me) and then one day they
    were gone!!!
    Thanxx
    
    
    
    --raq--
    
    

    
    Raquel --> Barbara and Travis are living in Seattle with Bianca.
    Barbara had her baby and the body parts matched.  So Tom flew out
    there to await the results of the bone marrow transplant.  It was
    successful and Molly Rose will probably survive!
    
    Emily Ann is in the mental hospital for trying to poison Katie
    Kennicott!
    
    Sloey has left Pine Valley to attend Medical School at Stanford.
    
    Stuart is around somewhere and we haven't seen Scott in what seems
    like years.  Hope this helps.
    
    --dc/Valmont!
    

    
    
    DC-->  MERCI BOUCOUPE!!  One more question?  Who's Katie Kendicott?
    I kepts seeing her name, but didn't think she was that significant.
    Didn't EA lose her baby?  I'm so out of date!!
    
    One more thing.  I haven't been able to quite figure this out yet....
    Where are you located??  Have a great day and if you don't see this
    until Monday....................................................
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	          	     HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    -raquel-

    
    Racquel --> Emily Ann lost her first baby when she fell down the
    stairs (in SLO-MO)--> as she was fleeing from her "pappy" Billy 
    Clyde Tuggle!
    
    She was NEVER really pregnant with the second baby.  It was all
    in her hysterical mind!  She wanted a baby so badly --> she just 
    created one for herself!  When she found out that it wasn't real,
    she transitioned her anger and hatred towards Katie Kennicott -->
    the fish-lipped student nurse from New Hampshire!  
    
    Emily Ann attempted to murder the Vermont Maid with crushed-up 
    heart medicine, that she served in tumbler glasses, filled with 
    ice cubes!  Don't all crushed-up pills dissolve in an iced beverage?
    
    Then she stuffed the bosom clutching Katie into the bathroom!  Sloey
    finally rescued Katie.  Emily Ann got locked up and Katie fled back
    to New Hampshire.  Katie used to giggle a lot!  (^%  Actually, she
    giggled all the time!!!!!!
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    I'm soooooooooo sorry, DC! I just can't help but put my /red hat on!
    
    I must pick a nit w/ your KK/EA/JOEY note! Katie was the fish lipped
    student nurse from VERMONT!  ;*) not New Hampshire! Maybe you're
    confusing her w/ Pamela Smart?!?! ;*)
    
    Bonnie

    
    Bonnie --> Valmont always mixes up New Hampshire and Vermont!!!!!!
    Isn't Vermont the one with the microscopic little seacoast?  (^%  
    
    Can anyone remember where Nico and Julie were married? 
    
    --dc/Valmont!
    
    

    dc-->  Nico and Julie were married at the little house where
    2 nice old people lived.  The man said he was a preacher, so
    they preformed the marriage.  I wish I could remember the
    old peoples names.    
    
    I remember Julie walking down the stairs in the old wedding
    gown that this lady had when she got married.  It was a
    cute ceremony.  I liked Nico and Julie together, but when
    Cecily came along I liked them better.
    
    Nico and Julie did find out there marriage was not valid
    and then went and got married fo real.  I even think Cecily
    was there for her when she in fact got married in PV.
    
    I hope this helps alittle. *^) *^)
    
    
    Tracey
                  

    Will someone that remembers the Erica/Adam marriage and divorce please
    fill us in on the details of the divorce?  I mean, I keep hearing
    everyone talking about them not really being divorced, and I can't
    think of any facts to back that up.  Do you guys actually remember this
    or did you read it somewhere?
    
    Jo

    Jo,
    
    Stuart stood in for Erica and Adam too.  Adam forced him to do it but I
    forget why.  But, that's where Stuart got the idea, from when he did it
    before.  That's what Stuart has on Adam, the fact that Erica and Adam
    are still legally married because Adam wasn't present at the divorce.
    I actually remember this but as I said, I do forget where Adam was at
    the time.  It seems to me he had to be "two places at once".
    
    Cheryl

    I got Soap Opera Magazine this weekend and they had a pretty good
    article on the Martins.  I can't write it all in one note, so when I
    have time I'll enter what I can...
    
    The Martins are an old and respected family in Pine Valley.  Although
    they are financially secure, they believe that family honesty,
    integrity and fairness are more important than being rich.
    
    Despite their sense of compassion and morality, the Martins have
    certainly had their share of scandals and skeltons in the proverbial
    family closet.  Although Ruth and Joe are the only Martins currently
    living in Pine Valley, the family has left behind a legacy whick lives
    on daily for AMC fans.
    
    TO BE CONTINUED.....

    KATE MARTIN:  Deceased matriarch of the family.  Mother of Joe and
    Paul.  The typical grandma, who loved her family and treated everyone
    she met with friendship and kindness.
    
    JOE MARTIN:  A respected doctor and head of Pine Valley Hospital. 
    Kate's son and Paul's brother.  He is a sensitive, caring family man
    who loves his wife and children and can always be counted on for help
    of any kind.  Currently married to Ruth Brent, he is the natural father
    of Joey and adoptive father of Tad.  Joe's children from a previous
    marriage are Tara, Jeff and Bobby.
    
    TO BE CONTINUED....

      
    
    
    
    Do you think the article says anything on Bobby?
    
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie--->I KNOW it does!!! :*D /red read some of it to me this
    morning, and she mentioned Bobby Martin in it! He was from Jovial Joe's
    first marriage! I didn't realize that!
    
    Bonnie

    Jackie --> you'll have to wait and see.....
    
    PAUL MARTIN:  A lawyer.  Normally reserved, but extremely determined. 
    Kate's son and Joe's brother.  He married Ann Tyler, daughter of Phoebe
    and Charles Tyler, with whom he had a daughter, Beth, who was a victum
    of crib death.  Ann spent time in and out of mental institutions as a
    result of Beth's tragic death.  Paul tried to make a go of their
    marriage and it looked like happier times were ahead for the couple
    until Ann was suddenly killed by a car bomb intended for Paul.  he
    eventually left town and went to Washington D.C. to practice law.
    
    RUTH MARTIN:  A nurse.  A kind and loving woman, who sometimes can't
    help meddling in family affairs.  Married to Joe Martin, she is the
    natural mother of Joey and the adoptive mother of Tad.  Previously
    married to Ted Brent with whom she raised her sister Amy's illegitimate
    son Phil.
    
    JEFF MARTIN:  A doctor.  Joe's son from his first wife.  Kind hearted
    and very dedicated to his career.  Jeff's private life was a mess. 
    After succombing to the charms of Erica Kane, he married her - only to
    find out that she had aborted his child.  After his divorce from Erica,
    Jeff found comfort in the arms of Mary Kennicott and they were married. 
    After her tragic murder, he left town.  Single once again, Jeff
    recently returned to Pine Valley for a brief visit, but decided not to
    stay.
    
    TO BE CONTINUED.....
    
    /red

    Okay, so... (no offense anyone)...
    
    Ruth never went looking for Bobby because he was Joe's son from his
    first marriage, right?? :'D  
    
    Jo

    Good One JO !!!!!!
    
    TARA MARTIN:  Daughter of Joe and his first wife.  A sensitive young
    woman who was caught up in a triangle between two men who both loved
    her.  A young Tara fell in love with Phil Brent, and slept with him
    before he was shipped off to Vietnam.  She married Chuck Tyler when she
    found out she had become pregnant by Phil, who was reported missing in
    action and presumed dead.  When Phil finally surfaced, Tara divorced 
    Chuck and married Phil -- only to lose him again when he died in a
    plane crash.  She then married Jim Jefferson and moved to Japan.
    
    
    CHARLIE "PHILLIP" BRENT:  Son of Tara Martin and Phil Brent. 
    Originally called Phillip when his mother was married to Chuck, but
    later changed his name to Charlie.  He resently resurfaced in Pine
    Valley where he briefly courted Erica.  He works for "Enchantment," and
    is currently on promotional tour.
    
    BOBBY MARTIN:  Joe's son with his first wife.  He went up to the attic
    to polish his skis and hasn't been seen since.
    
    JOEY MARTIN:  Youngest son of Ruth and |Joe.  Brother of Tad.  A
    college student, Joey was always in the shadow of his bbrother Tad.  He
    married Emily Ann, but fell for Katie Kenicott.  When Emily Ann
    realized she was close to losing Joey, she tried to kill Katie and was
    taken away to get professional help.  Joey then decided to follow in
    his father's medical footsteps and left for California.
    
    TAD MARTIN:  Appropriately called "Tad the Cad", he has had affairs
    with most of Pine Valley's eligible young women.  Adopted son of Ruth
    and Joe.  His natural parents are Ray Gardner and Opal Gardner
    Cortlandt.  Brother of late Jenny Gardner.  Tad never took anything too
    seriously and it seemed like he was always in trouble.  His first
    marriage was to Dottie Thornton.  Hilary Wilson, the daughter of
    Langley Wallingford, came next.  When he married Dixie Cooney, it
    looked like Tad was finally ready to settle down, but his womanizing
    ways led to divorce.  While separated from Dixie, he had an affair with
    Brooke English and fathered her son Jamie.  When he and Dixie
    reconciled and were about to be remarried, Tad was supposedly killed
    in a fall from a bridge while trying to capture Billy Clyde Tuggle. 
    Everyone in Pine Valley thinks he's dead, but viewers last saw him
    hitchhiking west.
    
    
    THE END
    
    
    /red

    /red:
    
    You sly fox.......making me wait til probably the end to hear about
    Bobby!
    
    I lent my Episodes to a friend...guess I shoulda read it first!
    
    ha ha
    
    
    Jackie
    

    
    /red --> great historical information!  I was thinking about this
    the other day and can't figure out if it makes sense?  Here goes -->
    
    Phoebe is Brooke's Aunt.  Paul Martin married Phoebe's adopted 
    daughter Ann.  Does that make Brooke and the Martin's --> actual
    relatives or just kissing cousins?????????  (^%\'  Thanks!
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    DC-->  Ann was Phoebe's biological daughter.
    	   Brooke and Ann were cousins.  So that 
    	   would have made Paul and Brooke --
    	   cousins-in-law, but I don't think that
    	   really makes them related, do you?????
    
    /red	

Let's see if my memory is working at all this afternoon.  After all, this was 
quite a while back so someone correct me if I'm wrong.


Daisy is Nina's mother.  Palmer threatened her to stay way from Nina while
she (Nina) was growing up.  Later, she came to town under the name of Monique (I 
think), and became good friends with Nina and Cliff.  Nina didn't know Monique
was really Daisy, her mom, at first.  Myra (Palmer's maid) is Daisy's mother.


I don't remember much about Adam's first wife, but when Adam first came to
town and married Erica, he had Stuart hidden away in the mansion, and had
Stuarts wife, Joanna, as his housekeeper.  Joanna was in-love with Adam at 
the time.

    Palmer did keep Daisy hidden away for a while... As we used to see her
    in the attic.... or a light going by the window.. And she showed up at
    the masquerade ball Palmer had.... She snuck down so she could she her
    daughter.
    
    Robbin
    

    Also, Daisy promised to stay away from Nina if Palmer would let Myra
    stay close to her.  That's why Myra stayed with Palmer all the years
    that Nina was growing up, even though Palmer had banished her daughter
    out of the US.
    
    Daisy also stayed in the attic when Palmer didn't know she had
    returned.  Myra used to have the sayances (sp???) for Nina to contact
    her mother because Nina thought Daisy was dead.  One day, Daisy
    appeared to Nina.  In reality, Myra had been keeping Daisy in the
    attic.  Then, she was known to Nina as Monique Jonville(sp??? again!!)
    
    
    Cheryl

    re.272
    	I think you have your soaps mixed up it was Asa who had a wife
    named Olympia not Palmer. Also it was at his mascarade ball that she
    showed up at dressed in the same costume that Asas' wife SAm had on.
    This is from One Life to Live at least 12 years ago.
				barbara

    /red:
    
    
    WHERE ARE YOU????????????????  You are DESPERATELY needed in this file
    to answer some questions!
    
    
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Barbara --> maybe there were two masquerade balls, one on AMC and 
    one on OL?  (^%  
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    Thought that since it is snowing and some of you won't get to go home
    tonight (that's a laugh!) you might like to take a gander at this:
    
    Can you think of any more?
    
    Jackie
    
	WHO'S SLEPT WITH WHOM?
    
    
PHOEBE: Charles Tyler
	Langley Wallingford

LANGLEY:Phoebe Tyler Wallingford
	Myrtle Fargate (?)

PALMER:	Daisy Cortlandt
	Donna Tyler
	Natalie Hunter
	Susan Preston
	Opal Cortlandt

NINA:	Zack
	Cliff Warner
	Matt Conolley

STUART: The only adult virgin in Pine valley!

TRAVIS: Barbara Montgomery
	Erica Kane

JACK:	Erica Kane
	Brooke English

ERICA:	Phil Brent
	Mike Roy
	Brandon Kingsley
	Travis Montgomery
	Jack Montgomery
	Jeremy Hunter
	Tom Cudahy
	Charlie Brent
	(I know there's more...)
    	(Anyone wearing pants............~/~, tee hee)
    
CHARLIE:Melanie Cortlandt
	Erica Kane
	Maria (the CA girlfriend)

WILL:	Skye Chandler

NICO:	Julie Chandler
	Cecilie

DONNA:	Anyone with $20 (ooo that's not nice!!!)
	Palmer Cortlandt
	Chuck Tyler
	Phil Brent
	Brenny Sago

ADAM:	Skye's Mother
	Arlene Vaughn
	Erica Kane
	Brooke English
	Natalie Hunter (?)

BROOKE:	Mark Dalton
	Giles St. Clair
	Tom Cudahy
	Tad Martin
	Jack Montgomery
	Adam Chandler

TOM:	Erica Kane
	Brooke English
	Skye Chandler
	Barbara Montgomery
	Livia Frye (soon...soon!)

RUTH:	Ted Brent
	Joe Martin

JOE:	Ruth martin
	Lenore ??? a patient who was beaten by her husband???

OPAL:	Ray Gardener
	Palmer Cortlandt
	The guy she boinked to death!

JEREMY:	Erica Kane
	Skye Chandler
	Cear Connor
	Marrisa Rompal

TREVOR:	Natalie Hunter

NATALIE:Alex Hunter
	Jeremy Hunter
	Palmer Cortlandt
	Adam Chandler (?)
	Trevor Dillon
    

    Don't forget that Stuart was married to Cindy, surely they must have
    slept together at least once during their marriage. ;-)
    
    Jan

    You also forgot about Opal and Langly. Remember when she had him locked
    in the Sauna?
    Barbara

    Here are a couple you forgot:
    
    Nina:  Steve Jacoby (played by Dack Rambo who now has AIDS)
    
    Erica:  Jeff Martin (her first husband)
            Jason Maxwell
            Adam Chandler
    
    Adam:  Dixie Cooney
    
    Ruth:  David Thorton
    
    Opal:  Ralph Purdy (last husband before Palmer)
    
    Jeremy: Natalie

    Wasn't Phoebe sleeping with Wade Matthews?  I was on seeing the show
    sporatically at that time so I can't say for sure.
    
    Robyn

    I'm pretty sure that when Brooke first showed up she was sleeping with
    Benny Sago.
    
    Leslie

    Alright!
    
    I knew you were all awake!  ^&)   %^)
    
    I'll do an update to this list! This is fun!
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Jackie/Barbara --> Opal NEVER slept with Langley!  He wanted to, but 
    she wouldn't do it, unless he divorced Phoebe!  Remember when Opal
    locked him in that steam-sauna-bath and stole his clothes!  He thought 
    it was part of their LOVE-NIGHT --> instead, he had to trundle himself
    home wearing a large, terry-cloth towel!  It wasn't easy, explaining to 
    Phoebe where his clothes went, especially on such a frigid night!  (^%
    
    We never saw Phoebe actually make love to Wade Mathews, not even one
    afterglow scene --> but I do remember a scene with them together in bed 
    and she was wearing her famous --> satin, sequined, and be-jeweled 
    sleeping mask!  (^%  I think she had one of her well-known migraines!
    Wade brought her some hot cocoa --> to soothe her jangled nerves!  (^%
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    Phoebe married Wade Mathews so yes, they definately slept together.
    
    Erica was also married to Phil Brent (I don't think he was mentioned).
    Erica was also married to Tom Cudahy.
    
    Nancy

    I just remembered that Nina also slept with Benny Sego!!
    
    Talk about the odd couple!!!!
    
    Nancy

    Langly and Myrtle never slept together.  They have always just
    been friends.
    
    Also I don't remember Donna and Phil Brent together.
    
    Nancy

    
    Didn't Langly & Marion Colby... do the wild thang.... I am not sure...
    
    Robb
    

    Nancy--->Are you SURE that Wade & Pheobe did {{{IT}}}?? If I know
    Pheobe, she made him wait til after they were married. And wasn't
    he stopped at the airport dressed as a woman only hours after their
    wedding, trying to make off w/ her millions? You've got me wondering!
    
    Bonnie
    
    PS: This whole story line is kind of vague to me. Did Wade love Pheobe?
    I don't think he ever did, not even in the begining, did he?

    Bonnie, I'm never SURE of anything!!  I thought Wade and Phoebe
    were married for some time.  She divorced Langley, married Wade -
    that's when Langley and Myrtle became close friends - then
    after Phoebe divorced Wade she married Langley again.  No, Wade
    never loved her and yes he married her for her money.  But I
    remember Phoebe had the hots for his bod.
    
    Nancy 

    Thanks, Nanc!

    I don't think that Stuart and Cindy ever slept together. She was
    diagnosed with AIDS before they were married, so I kind of doubt that
    they did.
    
    Did we mention Melanie and David Yawnpal???

    Married couples that have Aids can sleep together, can't they?
    
    Jo

    Stuart and Cindy did sleep together, they used protection.  I remember
    they had discussions with Angie about how safe it would be and would
    Stuart be protected.
    
    /red

    /red
    You are right.  Stuart and Cindy did sleep together after Stuart talked
    to Angie about it.  She explained the only really "safe" way was to 
    refrain from having sex but if they really wanted to he should use
    protection.  He loved Cindy enough that he wanted to take the risk.
    
    Marie

    Remember Erica's sister Silver?  Didn't she sleep with anyone?
    Like maybe Jeremy???  Or maybe I'm confusing her with Marrissa.

    I think Silver wanted to but Jeremy, being the noble man that he is.
    didn't feel it would be right since at the time she didn't know who she
    was. Didn't she call herself Noel?? Am I totally confused???
    
    LKB

    I can't remember the whole story about Silver.  How she came to town.
    What she was up to.  How she died.  Will someone please refresh my
    memory.
    
    Thanks,
    Cheryl

    Didn't she get shot during a struggle for a gun? I think she was trying
    to kill someone (Skye? I don't remember). But her body was dumped into 
    the pond behind Palmers place & her body was discovered by Dixie
    (maybe?) when she went for a swim?! I'm sorry I really don't remember
    enough to be commenting on this, but I was hoping I could jog someone's
    memory.
    
    Bonnie

    >> Didn't she get shot during a struggle for a gun?
    
    She was shot during a struggle with Natalie.  Silver was going to kill
    her because she wanted Jeremy.  Nat hid her body in a storage compartment 
    in her sofa and Palmer discovered it.  They then took the body rolled up 
    in a rug and dumped it in Palmers pond.  I believe it was Dixie who found 
    the body.
    
    Marie

    what I recall... Jeremy kept having visions of a woman in a forest who
    was in some kind of trouble or danger. He eventually found Silver in
    this state but she didn't know who she was and between the two of them
    they came up with the name of Noel. I don't remember the details but
    she and Natalie were fighting over Jeremy and Silver disguised herself
    as a burglar and broke into Natalie's apartment. They argued and
    struggled over the gun which of course went off and killed Silver. Nat
    stuffed Silver into a chest in her livingroom (bet her place smelled
    great!) Palmer figuered it all out and bailed Nat out by having hte
    body removed and dumped in the pond on his property. Prior to all that
    there was some weird stuff going on with Goldie (Silver's mom, Erica's
    'stepmom') and Dr. Lazar. They were hypnotizing her and trying to
    program her to kill Erica so that Goldie could get total ownership of
    some island that Erica and Silver inherited from their Father. I think
    that Goldie went overboard and was never heard from again except in
    ghost form!! This is all very vague, so fill in the missing parts!
    
    LKB

    What I remember about Silver -- she honestly didn't know who she was
    when Jeremy found her and called her Noel. He fell in love with her --
    doesn't he always fall in love with the women he rescues? Dr. Lazar
    showwed up, claiming to be her psychiatrist and wanting to help her
    remember who she really was. He and Goldie were hypnotizing her and
    programming her to kill Erica, but somehow, their plan backfired, and
    there was a scene on a boat where Dr. Lazar pushed Goldie overboard.
    
    Jeremy did sleep with Silver, and was living with her when he started
    to become interested in "poor abused" Natalie again. Silver tried to
    kill Natalie because she was so insecure...
    
    Does anyone remember that there were two actresses playing Silver?
    The first Silver (Noel) had short dark hair and blue eyes, and was
    quite petite. I've seen her in commercials since... The second
    Noel was taller with red hair and green eyes.
    
    Karen

    I remember the first Noel/Silver. I called her 'Helmet Head' because of
    her incredibly stiff hair.
    
    It funny you should mention Jeremy always falling in love with the
    women he rescues. He used that with Dimitri in the show yesterday!!!

    I have a question.  I just watched the tape of Erica and Adam's
    marriage and Opal said something to Erica about Adam having an
    illegitimate daughter.  I thought that Adam was married to Skye's
    mother when she was born, and Hayley wasn't illegitimate because her
    mom was married to Harry Vaughn at the time.  So, what am I missing?
    Wasn't Adam married to Skye's mom?  
    
    Jo

    Jo -->I brought this up in the regular AMC note.  I don't get the big
    deal about Bianca being illegit if Erica was married (regardless of who
    she was married to).  But I guess they are talking about not being
    married to the child's father, so that would make Hayley illegit as
    well as Adam Jr.  Adam was married to Skye's mother.
    
    /red

    Yesterday, I was going through all of my tapes and labeling them.  I
    stumbled on a really old one.  It had on it an episode from 1988. The
    show opened up with Skye in a coma.  Tom was drunk and Barbara was
    trying to rescue him.  Jesse was talking with Charlie (the dirty blond
    one, not the darkhaired one) and Cecily.  Ross was in prison talking to
    a shrink and someone we can put on the GONE LIST -- JEB TIDWELL.  He
    was the guy in prison who posed as a preacher who wanted to kill Ross. 
    Cindy and Stuart were talking about Skye getting better for their
    wedding.
    
    
    /red

    
    /red --> I can't believe it --> I did the same thing over the
    Holidays!  I found about 10 old AMC tapes.  The saddest one was 
    the tribute to Kate Martin!  Some of these tapes were from all
    the way back to --> 1985!!!!!!!  I even found one with Tom and Skye
    getting married and Adam asking Brooke to marry him!  There's Tad
    and Hillary, etc, etc, etc. --> if anyone wants to borrow them, 
    send me mail!  The best one I've watched so far, was when Ellen Dalton
    got the goods on that Nasty Natalie and exposed her to Palmer!!!  (^%
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...BOTH ELLEN AND ERICA TRIED TO HELP SALVAGE
    MARKS' DRUG ADDICTED LIFE...Does anyone remember the fact that Erica
    was lusting after Mark before she found out he was her brother..Came
    pretty darn close to incest if you ask me...

    Yep, I remember that!  Erica thought she'd found Mr. Right (again...)
    and came THIS close to sleeping with Mark.  Then Mona told her Mark's
    her half-brother.  So what did Erica do??  The usual, she got really
    p.o'd at Mona and wouldn't speak to her for a long time.

    - Diane

    
    I remember that, wow, I'm getting old. Anyone remember the half
    bald guy that owned the restraunt she used to go with? I don't
    remember his name.

    Pete, are you talking about Nick Davis, who used to own the Chateau. 
    He was came back on again for about a week when Erica was about to
    marry Charlie.  Nick was the one who talked some sense into her and she
    decided not to marry Charlie.
    
    Cheryl

    What a farce!!! "Poppa" Nick returning to save "Momma" Erica from
    making a giant baby sitting mistake by marrying "Lil' Charlie...I know
    the writers laughed all the way to the bank on that note!!  I could've
    seen the Newspaper headlines as follows "OLDER WOMAN SPURNED BY YOUNG
    LOVERS INFEDELITIES, KILLS HIM IN A JEALOUS RAGE!"

    
    Yep, that's him.

    Last night I picked up SPRING 1992 Soap Opera Digest.  It had some
    great article in it....
    
    For each soap it featured The Years Best and Worst 
    
    BEST STORYLINE
    Molly's Leukemia
    The discovery of Molly Cudahy's leukemia kicked off one of the most
    informative and comprehensive -- if not controversial -- storylines
    that AMC has ever done.  Barbara Cudahy and Travis Montgomery's
    decision to conceive a child who not easy, nor was it depicted that
    way.  AMC explored all moral viewpoints and portrayed a full range of
    repercussions:  Tom fell off the wagon; Travis and Erica's daughter,
    Bianca, underwent abandoment trauma; and both Travis and Barbara lost
    their marriages.  An untimely departure for Larkin Malloy (Travis)
    meant that this storyline was forced to end conveniently, but that in
    no way diminishes AMC's intent or execution.
    
    
    
    That's all I have time for right now.  More later.....
    
    /red

    This one will shock most...
    
    MOST RIVETING PERFORMANCE
    Richard Shoberg (Tom Cudahy)
    
    Richard Shoberg had a lot to work with this year:  betrayal, anger, a
    relapse into drinking, recovery, hope, rejection.  And because it's
    been so long since he's had a story of any depth, we'd forgotten how
    exciting a performer Shoberg can be.  So used to his Mr. Nice Guy act,
    we forget that alcoholic Tom fights a tough battle every day, that he
    still harbors deep feelings for Brooke, and that he often feels very
    much alone.  Shoberg made all of this perfectly clear in just a
    handful of well-executed, dramatic scenes that not only entertained,
    but also underscored.  When Tom is relegated to the back burner for too
    long, we suffer withdrawal.
    
    
    More later....I'm going on an interview...wish me luck!!!
    
    /red

    Luck!!!!
    
    

    /red:
    
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  LUCK!!  
    
    
    whew...................%^)
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Here's some more....
    
MOST MOURNED CHARACTER
Tad Martin

Tad Martin had it all -- looks, brains and a great sense of humor.  It's no 
wonder he was a viewer favorite.  Fans followed Tad through every mess 
he got himself into -- from his problems with the mob, to his divorce 
from Dixie, to his feud with Billy Clyde Tuggle -- never waivering in 
their support.  His expected marriage to Dixie was a long awaited event, 
but wasn't to be:  An explosion blew Tad off a bridge on his would be 
wedding day.  although it was difficult to say good bye to a cherished 
hero, it may not be over yet.  when last seen, an amnesiac Tad was 
wandering around California, so there is always the hope that he will 
return to Pine Valley -- if he ever remembers the way.


    /red

MOST DISAPPOINTING MARRIAGE
Opal Purdy And Palmer Cortlandt

When Opal Purdy and Palmer Cortlandt said their "I dos," a fun, offbeat 
union was expected.  Sadly, Opal's wardrobe was about as offbeat as it 
got.  Palmer used to be devious, a master manipulator and a shrewd 
businessman, but since his wedding, he's lost his zest for living.  
Granted, contented people don't usually spar with their help of feel the 
need to conduct underhanded business dealings, but that's what we expect 
from Palmer.  Instead we're getting a henpecked, doting husband -- 
boring.  Palmer doesn't even run his dogs anymore.  As for Opal, her 
sole function appears to be collecting and spewing oneliners.  
Occasionally, she plays the saxaphone or matchmaker -- two activities 
that have brought little success.  Where are the Palmer and Opal we know 
and love?  Marriage, unfortunately, has had a tranquilizing effect on 
both of them.
    
    /red

    
    Would someone refresh my memory about the fire at the Chateau and
    how Donna, Ellen, Mark were involved!  Who set the fire or was it
    spontaneous?  Thanks!
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    Didn't someone plant a bomb?? In Mark's dressing room??

    correct me if i'm wrong but isn't jeremy's father and the father of
    timmy the bad guy on lethal weapon?
    
    just curious as it was on t.v. last night.
    
    thanks,
    cj
    

    cj -- I think that's the same guy
    
    
    
    /red

    
    What ever happend to the Sky and SWill romance????
    When did he turn into such a skitz?
    
                                               jazzzzzzz

    Jazz-->>  To try to answer your question on whatever happened
    to the Skye and Swill romance.  They broke up when Skye decided
    to move away from her father and Swill.
    
    Swill wasn't ready to put Skye first before anyone and Skye
    felt like she wasn't important enough for her father.  It
    seems as though she wanted a excuse to leave.  
    
    Swill turned into a "skitz" when his family meaning his
    Uncle Palmer and DUMB DUMB DIXIE threw him out of the
    Courtland House and Uncle Palmer fired him from Courtland
    Electronics and let Creepy take his place.
    
    Palmer did this when Swill tried to frame Creepy for 
    something he really didn't do that time at least.
    Palmer didn't want Swill in the family and didn't
    trust him at all.
    
    DUMB DUMB DIXIE also disowned him basically as her
    brother as well because of Creepy.  She doesn't want
    to believe anything her brother has to say, even when
    Swill was even telling the truth about Creepy. *^)
    
    Hope that helps you. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
     
                                                 

    Skye was a recovering alcoholic and needed to get away from her
    father's manipulation since it is part of what drove her to drink.  So,
    she accepted a job in a faraway town counseling alcoholics.  She and
    Will broke up when she left.
    
    Jo

    
     Thank-you!  The last time I had watched them two together they were
    still hiding out from Palmer and Adam.
    
                                                 jazzzzz

    
    
    Help Needed!
    
    Did Billy Clyde REALLY die?  Didn't he REALLY get buried at the
    cemetary?  I mean, no chance for him to come back?!?!?
    
    Jackie

    
    All gone!

    Jackie-->>  Billy Clyde was found, but Tad wasn't.  He is really
    all gone. *^)  He was found dead in the water. 
    
    I'm not sure about the cemetary part of it.  If  they would have had
    a funeral DUMB DUMB DIXIE probably would have shown out of guilt for
    the dead.  PPPLLLLEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ she's always good for a few
    tears.
    
    Hope that helps ya. *^)
    
    Tracey
    
                                                  

    
    
    Ya know, Tracey, that's what I thought.  But a friend (and closet
    noter) said that she remembered differently.  So I thought i would
    ASK THE EXPERTS!
    
    Thanks to everyone who answered!
    
    Jackie
    
    P.S.  (See, I KNEW I was RIGHT!)  ha ha

    
    	Can someone remind this fry-brain who the new guy on AMC is??  I
    	know he's playing Ed Grey, but where have I seen him before??!?!	
    	Thanks.
    
    -raq
    
    

    he was on falcon crest.  played eric stavros.  hsi real name is john
    calahan.
    
    ann

    
    
    Is it me, or is he HOT?!?!?!
    
    

    It's not you!!

    
    
    HE'S HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Jackie

    
    
    I was trying to remember ....
    
    Brooke didn't really grow up in PV did she?  Didn't her Mom send her to
    Phoebe's to straighten her out?
    
    Reason I'm asking is that someone raised the questions in the regular
    AMC file on why she didn't know Dimitri, and that was the explanation
    that I gave..........am I correct?
    
    Jackie

    Jackie... you are correct!
    
    Brooke was sent to live with "Aunt Phoebe" because she was a rebellious
    teenager and her mother felt Phoebe could straighten her out.
    
    Marie

    o.k. here we are.  i remember brooke coming to pheobe's at 17.  
    
    still, you would think that at 17, angelique, edmund and dimitri would
    be the same age and would hang out at the same spots.  
    
    while i'm here, does anyone remember exactely who brooke has been
    with.  i remember it as follows:
    
    benny
    mark
    tom
    jean st. hiles (or whatever his name is) 
    adam
    tad
    jack
    edmund
    
    
    cj

    I think Brooke also had a fling with Dan Kennicott??? Katie's brother.
    
    il

    And wasn't Wally after her too?  Did she ever sleep with him?  I
    thought she did.
    
    Jo

    Jo:
    
    What is a "2hhps"?
    
    Jackie

    That means two household pets (read that non-purebred cats). My
    personal name refers to my cattery.
    
    Jo

    Wally McFadden and Brooke did not have a fling, he was in love with
    Devon but she was in love with Dan Kenicott who was in love with 
    Brooke.
    
    Robyn

    
    
    Jo:
    
    Thanks!  I was trying to figure that out for a long time!
    
    
    Jackie

    The way I remember it, Devon was in love with Shean Cuddahy,
    Tom's broher.  Remember Shean was a real playboy and he broke
    Devon's heart and she started drinking because of him.  She
    married Wally on the rebound.
    
    Nancy

    Actually, the way I remember it, Devon was in love with Dan Kennicott
    and she married Wally on the rebound from Dan.  I don't remember Sean
    being around when Devon was on.  
    Can anyone else clear up this confusion?
    
    Marie

    re: 347
    Marie,
    I remember it the same way you do. Devon was in love with Dan K. and 
    marry Wally on the rebound.
    
    il.

    Didn't Devon end up having an affair with Sean after she had
    Bonnie (Wally's daughter)?  They (Devon & Wally) had left for a while 
    and when she came back that was when I thought she and Sean got it on.
    
    Robyn

    Thanks Robyn, I thought I was losing it fursure.
    I guess my memory is going.  I was sure I thought Devon fell in
    love with Sean, maybe it was after she married Wally.  I just
    remember Devon fell for Sean and he was really mean to her and
    she started drinking.  Does anybody else remember any more details.
    
    Nancy

    I'm sure Cheryl will have the answers when she comes back....she
    remembers it all.
    
    /red

    
    Yesterday, in the attic of the Martin house --> Ruthie told Myrtle 
    about Kate's husband --> HENRY!  Did we ever see Henry Martin on AMC?  
    Myrtle nodded her head like she knew exactly who Ruthie was talking 
    about --> did she know Henry, too????  (^%
    
    --dc

    --dc
    
    Poor ol' Henry was already dead when AMC first began.  Even though
    Myrtle didn't start off on the show, she was supposed to have lived
    in Pine Valley before joining the circus and was friendly with the 
    Martins before she left town.  I miss Kate.  She was a real sweetheart.
    
    Marie

    HELP....
    
    Can anyone explain exactly what happened to Erica losing Bianca?  I
    personally couldn't stand the kid but it would nice to know why Travis
    got her.
    
    She'll probably show up in two years as a senior in high school to 
    rival her mother as the most beautiful woman in Pine Valley.
    
    Thanks
    
    Karen

    Karen -->>  Let me try to explain what happened to Bratinella
    and the custody battle.
    
    Erica and Travis went to court over Bianca because Travis felt
    Bianca should be with her and obviously Erica felt she should
    be with her.  It all really took a turn for the worse when 
    Erica found out that Travis had got Barbara pregnant to try
    to save Molly.
    
    Erica really was in love with Jack and after she found out
    about Travis and Barbara having a child, she went back to Jack.
    That ended up coming out in the trial that Erica was with Jack
    and she lied on the stand saying that she and Jack weren't together
    when she and Travis remarried.
    
    Erica wanted Jack to lie, but he couldn't and Erica then
    blamed Jack for her loosing Biance because since Erica did
    not tell the whole truth the courts with the help from 
    Travis's attorney let him have custody of Bianca and she
    could have visiting rights while he took her to Seattle
    to live with he and Barbara.
    
    Erica was very devistated over this and blamed Jack for her
    loosing Bianca.  The courts felt with the circumstances given
    Bratinella would be better off with her father.  After the
    trial was over Bratinella went with Travis and Jack and Erica
    did break up.
    
    Hope what I said helps.  If there's anything else someone
    please add more. *^)
    
    
    Tracey
    
    
    
    

    Tracey -
    
    Thanks for the update.  I really appreciate it.  To honest I wasn't to
    upset when I turned on the TV one day to watch AMC and find out that
    Bianca was gone.  That child must be the worst child actor that I've
    seen in awhile.
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Karen

    Nick is Phil's Father and he was involved with Ruth's sister (can't
    remember her name but Amy keeps popping up in my head).  Ruth
    and Joe adopted Phil.  Charlie belongs to Tara and Phil.  (Chuck
    prtended to be his father when Phil was presumed  killed in
    Vietnam.) Charlie should really only be about 17 years old as he
    was born after my first born who is 18. That's soapsville for ya.
    

    Thanks, I guess that one was before my time.  
    
    Deb

From SOD:1983
	Verla Grubbs confided to Myrtle her reason for coming to Pine 
Valley:"I'm here to find my real father, Lenny Wlasuk." Langley (a.k.a. Lenny) 
panicked.. Unaware that Langley and Lenny were the same man, Phoebe offered to 
hire a private eye to find Lenny, a known criminal. Verla learned the truth 
and confronted Langley/Lenny, who refused to publicly claim her as his 
daughter: If Phoebe ever found out his trye identity, she'd divorce him in a 
second. Verla almost told Phoebe the truth, but in the end, she sadly left 
town.
	When Angie vetoed premarital sex Jesse quickly proposed. After they 
eloped, Jesse and Angie returned home. Afraid to ruin her parents' already 
shaky marriage, Angie convinced Jesse to keep their nuptials a secret and to 
live apart for a while.
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	I thought that Phoebe found out about Verla and Lenny's relationship. 
But maybe the memory is just going.
		Barbara 

    I saw this in the paper this weekend:
    
    If you are a fan of Susan Lucci and her "All My Children" character,
    Erica, you will definitely want to rush out and get your very own copy
    of the new ABC video "All About Erica".  In the video, Lucci will take
    viewers on a tour of Erica's life during the nearly 25 years the
    actress has played the role.