Conference misery::abc_soaps

    
    Noters --> one of the first things you will notice that is different
    about this conference is that the node we are using is in Californ I A.
    
    If you notice the top right of the screen, on the line where the note
    title is found, you will see the actual time your note is posted.  
    
    People outside of the PST Time Zone will notice that their notes will
    be posted at node WLDWST's local time, not at your local time.
    
    --dc
    

    Help.... I'm not very experience with notes file so please bear with
    me. I just added the new soap conference and read all the entries,
    after exiting from the conference, the main menu is telling me that I
    have "31 Unseen". Why is it telling me this, after it told me "No more
    replies"? Help....
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    I.

    I'm not an expert either, but I believe when you add a new entry, the
    only not that is posted is Note #1, usually the introduction.  Once you
    "open" the note the balance of the noted which have been added link in.
    If you had used the "next unseen" key after reading the intro, you
    would have been able to continue reading the balance of the notes.  Now
    you will have to re-open the entry to continue reading.
    

    
    SCOVAX::LAWRENCE --> Try logging completely out of notes and then go
    back in again.  I think this problem will disappear after that.  The
    main menu of notes won't be updated about your activities in a file
    until you completely exit notes --> when you re-enter notes it should
    be ok!  Let us know if this fixes your problem!
    
    --dc

    .03 Thank you, I re-open the file and everything seems ok now. Again
    thanks.
    
    I.

    Hi Donna,
    
    Thanks it worked just as you said, much appreciated.
    
    I.

    
    You can send mail directly to someone while still in notes by typing:
    
    SEND/AUTHOR --> (if you want to send mail to the author of the note you
    are reading) 
    
    {or}
    
    SEND --> and typing in the address of the person you want to send mail 
    to.
    
    --dc
    
    

    
    DC: This question is for you since I've come to respect you as the
    master of Electronic Expression!
    
    How do you make a SMILEY face?  I've been using :-)  Is this right?
    Or even close??
    
    Thanks Much!
    --Steph 

    
    Hi Steph --> because we can't see each other's expression to give
    us clues about what that person was thinking when they wrote 
    something, little visual clues added by the author can accent
    their meaning -->
    
    Smiling --> (^%     (*%     [*%   [^%    0^%   D^%  :-) %^)
    
    Frowning --> )^%     )*%     }*%   }^%  
    
    		[[[[[[[[[[[[[[EMPHASIS]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
    
    		<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<EMPHASIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    
    		***************EMPHASIS*****************
    
    IMO --> in my opinion
    IMHO --> in my humble opinion
    FWIW --> for what it's worth
    BTW --> by the way
    
    FLAME ON /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 
    		insert flaming message here (text)
    FLAME OFF/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
    
    There are so many variations of these expressions --> let your
    imagination run wild and invent some new ones!  I am still working
    on one that indicates that a FACE SLAP IS NECESSARY or IMMEDIATELY
    REQUIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any ideas???
    
    For example --> this is a frowning man with a moustache winking at a 
    gorgeous blond babe from Californ I A, while wearing shades and just
    having eaten some very cold and fresh sushi --->      
    
    				-]}^%/ -#
    
    
    --dc

    Can someone tell me how to do the Set/Seen command properly?
    Now that we have this great new conference I'd like to keep up
    with what I've seen instead of writing down the last number I read.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Renee

    Type:  
    
          SET SEEN/BEFORE=30-JAN-1991 (or whatever date you want)
    
    This will set all notes entered before January 30, 1991 as being 'seen'

    
    Once you have done as Thel says (i.e., the set seen command) do the
    following:
    
    	When you next get into notes you will be put at the earliest dated
    	note since you were last in there. Use the keypad all the way to
    	the right of your keyboard (i.e., the one with the numbers and PF1,
    	PF2, etc.) The keys that I use are defined as follows:
    
    		1 ==> go back one reply
    		3 ==> go forward one reply
    
    		2 ==> go forward one note
    		5 ==> go back one note
    
    		, (comma) ==> go to next unseen
    		- (dash, under PF4) ==> go to last read note/reply
    
    		0 ==> scroll to next screen
    
    	An example session would go as follows:
    
    		Enter notes which puts you at technical note 3.5
    		Read screen
    		Hit keypad 3, this will put you to 3.6
    		Read screen.
    		If this is the last reply in this note then
    			hit keypad , (comma). This will put
    			you at the next note unseen, say 20.4
    		Say at this point you want to go back to 3.6 cause
    			you want to write some info down contained
    			in that reply. Hit keypad - (dash), this will
    			put you back to note 3.6. When you are done there
    			you can again hit keypad - (dash) and you'll go
    			back to note 20.4.
    
    		The next note and back note keypads (2 and 5) will put
    		you at the first reply of the next/previous note. For
    		example is you were at 3.5 and hit keypad 2 you would 
    		then be at 4.0, or if you hit keypad 5 you would then
    		be at 2.0.
    
    I hope all this makes sense. Play around with it some and see how it
    works. You can always do another SET/SEEN/BEFORE=30-JAN-1991 to reset
    the last seen marker. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I was
    taught how to use these keys 5 1/2 years ago and boy does it make life
    easier. By using the next unseen keypad (,) when you exit notes and
    then get back in you will automatically be at the first note/reply
    entered since you were last in the conference.
    
    Patty

    You may also type SET SEEN/BEFORE=TODAY or YESTERDAY etc. if you don't
    want to type out the whole date.
    

    Hi again!!!
    
    Thanks for your answers.  I did it both ways (the date and the "today")
    After I type and hit return it disappears and thats that.  Am I suppose
    to see any kind of message that it worked?  When will I be able to
    tell if t I did it right?  The whole point of this is so that when
    I go into the GH file, I will type 16 and it will go right to the
    one I haven't seen yet, right?  
    
    
    Thanks also for that keypad note. 
    
    Renee  

    
    Using the BOOKMARK -->
    
    At the last note you read for a topic, you can mark it by typing -->
    
    	NOTES> MARK AMC (or whatever you want to call the topic)
    
    Go to another topic and when you are done reading, type -->
    
    	NOTES> MARK GH (or whatever you want to call the topic)
    
    Exit NOTES.
    
    The next time you enter NOTES, you don't even have to type the
    OPEN ABC_SOAPS command, all you have to type is -->
    
    	NOTES> READ/MARK AMC (keep the mark names short, it's easier!)
    
    This will OPEN the file for you and take you to your last read note
    in AMC (or whatever name you used to mark the file).
    
    If you want to enter the conference by typing OPEN ABC_SOAPS, you 
    can navigate around the files you always read, by typing --> 
    
    	NOTES> READ/MARK AMC (whatever nickname you used!)
    
    This will take you directly to the last read note that you marked!
    
    While in the conference ABC_SOAPS, you can type SHOW MARK at any
    time.  This will produce a list of all the marks you have made in 
    that particular conference.  This is helpful if you forgot what
    nickname you used for a mark!
    
    If you exit the conference and forget to make a mark at the last
    read note, the next time you enter the file, type the command -->
    
    	notes> READ/MARK AMC 
    
    will take you to the last place you marked, making you have to 
    catch up to where you want to be, by jumping ahead a few notes at
    a time, manually!  Once you get into the habit of marking your notes,
    you will start to do it automatically.  
    
    If you make a typo --> you can delete a mark like this -->
    
    	NOTES> DELETE MARK AMC (or whatever the typo was)
    
    BTW, Notes is not case sensitive!  I hope this info is helpful!
    
    --dc

    
    When you use the "SET SEEN/BEFORE=xxx" and the hit return, it won't
    change your screen, but if you either hit the next unseen button or
    exit out of notes and then get back in, you will got the first note
    entered since the date you specified in the SET SEEN command.
    
    Patty

    Thanks again for the help.  I tried the bookmarker method
    and it worked well.  I guess I'll stick to that!!
    
    thanks again,
    Renee

    I have a question.  How do you enter a personal name after your
    node name?  Thanks
    
    Angie
    
    

	      re: -.1

	      NOTES> SET PROFILE/PERSONAL_NAME="Whatever you want"    
    
	      Hope this helps,

	      _M.

    Thanks!  I did it, let's see if it works.
    
    Angie

    
    If you prefer to use your favorite editor in NOTES, other than the
    default, use this command to set up your favorite editor -->
    
    	NOTES> SET PROFILE/EDITOR=EDT
    
    	NOTES> SET PROFILE/EDITOR=WPS
    				                          
    			I hope that this is helpful!
    
    --dc

    Is there a way to take a portion of someone else's note and put it into
    my own as if I were referencing it without extracting it or retyping
    it?  Thanks.
    
    Cheryl

	Cheryl,

	I don't know if there's an easier way of doing it, but I usually
	find the note I want to include in my own, and do a REPLY at the
	NOTES>...

	The reply's text should come up on the screen, I edit out what 
	I don't want to include, and stick >>> in front of each line.

	At least it works for me with the EDT editor.

	Hope this helps,

	_M.

    
    Hi _M.  -->
    
    I tried doing the REPLY at the NOTES> prompt and I get an empty 
    buffer to type in.   With DECWINDOWS I can capture some of your 
    text in the split screen and insert them into my buffer with the
    mouse.  Isn't there some way to toggle back and forth between my 
    buffer and the note I am replying to?  
    
    I tried setting my editor from EDT to TPU.  It let's me split the 
    buffer I already have, but I can't seem to see anything more than 
    the first say, 10 lines of the note I am replying to.  There must
    be a way to do this..........  thanks! (^%
    
    --dc

Hi DC,

I'll give it a try to answer you question.

If you are using regular notes (not DECWindow Notes), and you type REPLY at
the NOTES> prompt after the note you wish to reply.  It should, by default (the
way I have my account set up, I come up with a split screen using the TPU 
editor), come up with a split screen window with the note you are replying 
to in the top half.  If you want to scroll the reply note or go the reply 
window to cut/paste or whatever, press to DO key.  A prompt should come up at 
the bottom of the screen saying something like "Command:".  At this command 
prompt, type OTHER.  That should toggle back and forth between the split 
screens. 

I hope this answered the question you were asking.   I'm a bit rusty without
the use of DECwindows.

							-Lisa

    
    Lisa --> Thank you!  I was using the command CHANGE to change between
    the buffer I opened and the note I was replying to!  I should have
    been using the OTHER command.   It worked with DECwindows, too!  What
    a team!  But the editor can't be EDT --> it has to be TPU!  (^%  
        
    --dc

    You can also try this:
    
    At the note you wish to extract and use in your own reply type:
    
    EXTRACT/BUFFER NOTES$EDIT
    
    Then type:  REPLY/LAST  and you'll get the whole note in your buffer
    and you can edit out what you don't want to include.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    Hey Kathryn --> this works too! (^%
    
    
    >>> EXTRACT/BUFFER NOTES$EDIT
    
    >>> Then type:  REPLY/LAST  and you'll get the whole note in your buffer
    >>> and you can edit out what you don't want to include.
    
    --dc   

    
    
    Does anyone know what happened to the conferences on India and Curries?
    
    I know this isn't an AMC question, but didn't know who to ask.
    
    Thanks,
    
    jackie  ;-)

    
    Jackie,
    
    Do this to get all of the known NOTES CONFERENCES in one big notes file
    for your notebook -->
    
    	NOTES> ADD ENTRY TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES
    
    Once you have gotten into this conference do a -->
    
    	NOTES> DIR/KEYWORD=INDIA
    
    		OR
    
    	NOTES> DIR/KEYWORD=CURRIES
    
    If the conference you want has a new home, if it has been closed or 
    if it has been abandoned --> you will be able to find out.  I didn't
    know you liked curry!  (^%
    
    --dc

    Thanks, dc
    
    It worked....it said no such note on the India one!  There used to be I
    wonder where it went!
    
    Just tried to call you......will talk to you tomorrow!
    
    "j"  ;-)

    I've noticed that someone recently mentioned that they'd like to be
    able to do spoilers.  Well, what worked on the other terminal I used
    to have (a VT340) was to type in what I wanted to say and then where
    I wanted the spoiler to start, I'd type Control V and then Control L
    and a carriage return and it always worked.  I'm not too sure if the
    editor you use has any affect on this, but I can't seem to get that
    old way to work for me anymore.  I'm currently using a DECstation 320
    and the method I just described to create spoilers no longer works.
    Any ideas?  dc, /red?
    
    - Kathryn
    

    
    Kathryn --> I am not too sure about a DECstation 320.  Your editor 
    has something to do with the form feed you will want.  Try this --> 
    maybe it will work for you:
    
    				CONTROL L
    
    BTW, I am using EDT with the ^L key.  
    
    --dc

    O.K. dc, I'll try just plain old control L:
    
    
    
    Hey!  It works!  Thanks.
    

    
    I am inserting this in here rather than create a whole new note with
    similar info.  This came from TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES.  You may
    want to read this when you get an error message in notes.
    
    --dc
    
    
     <<< TURRIS::TURRIS$DUA18:[NOTES$LIBRARY]EASYNET_CONFERENCES.NOTE;4 >>>
                       -< EasyNet Conference Directory >-
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		TROUBLESHOOTING NOTES CONFERENCE ACCESS PROBLEMS


This conference is not intended as a forum on how to use VAX NOTES.  However,
you may use it AS A LAST RESORT to report problems accessing conferences that
are advertised here.

Before you enter a note or reply in this conference about a problem, please
make sure that you have tried all of the following steps to deal with
the problem yourself:

1) Get the full text of the error message.  The error message should be two
   lines of the form:

	error opening conference xxx
	specific reason why the conference couldn't be opened

   Older versions of NOTES just gave you the first line of the message, which
   isn't very useful in dealing with the problem.  If you only get the first
   line, you can say SHOW ERROR to get the full text of the message.

2) If the error is "insufficient system resources at remote node," it means
   that the remote system is overloaded right now and cannot service your
   request.  If you wait and try again later, eventually you will get in.
   If this condition persists for several days, you may wish to complain
   **VIA MAIL** (NOT a note in this conference) to the conference moderator
   or to the system manager (user SYSTEM) on that machine.

3) Make sure that the entry in your notebook is correct.  Use the NOTES command
   SHOW ENTRY to examine the notebook entry.  Then, make sure that the
   node::filespec matches the one given in the latest announcement for that
   conference in EASYNET_CONFERENCES (see note 1.3 in EASYNET_CONFERENCES
   for info on how to locate the conference advertisement).

   If they do not match, change your notebook entry with the NOTES command
   MODIFY ENTRY/FILE=node::filespec.  Then try opening the conference again.

4) If the error is "remote node is unknown" it means that your local system
   doesn't know the node name.  Either the node doesn't exist and your notebook
   entry for the conference is wrong, or the node does exist and your local
   system's network database is out of date.

   See step (3) to check your notebook entry.

   If the notebook entry is OK, check that the node exists.  You do this by
   seeing if node ANCHOR, which holds the master copy of the remote node
   database, knows about the node name.  From DCL, type:

	$ MCR NCP TELL ANCHOR SHOW NODE xxx

    where "xxx" is the node in question.  If this command returns the
    message "Unrecognized component, Node" it means that the node really
    doesn't exist and the entry in EASYNET_CONFERENCES is wrong.  At this
    point, you should enter a REPLY to the conference announcement in
    EASYNET_CONFERENCES pointing out the error, and also you should send mail
    to the moderator of the conference.

    If ANCHOR does know about the node, it means that your local system's
    network database is in error.  You should have your system manager correct
    the problem.

5)  If the error is "remote node is unreachable," it means either that the
    machine isn't on the network just now, or that your local system's network
    database has the wrong node address for the remote node.  To check your
    local system's network database, you use NCP to ask your local system
    for the node address and you compare that against the same information from
    node ANCHOR:

	$ MCR NCP
	NCP> SHOW NODE xxx
	NCP> TELL ANCHOR SHOW NODE xxx
	NCP> ^Z
	$

    You will get answers of the form 2.476 (TLE).  The number shown is the
    node number.  It should be the same both on your local system and on
    ANCHOR.  If it is different, have your system manager correct the
    problem.

    If your local node database has the correct node number, then it means
    that either the remote node is off the network at the moment, or that
    transient network problems prevent a connection between your node and
    the remote node.  Wait a while and try again.  If the condition persists
    for several days, get in touch with the conference moderator or the
    system manager of the remote node to find out why it is off the network.

6)  If the error is "network object is unknown at remote node," it means either
    that NOTES isn't installed on the remote system, or that the remote
    system has temporarily shut off NOTES access to prevent overload
    conditions.

    First, you should follow steps (3), (4), and (5) to make sure that your
    notebook entry is correct and that your system has the correct node address.

    If all that stuff is OK, try waiting a while and trying again.  If the
    condition persists over a period of days, contact the conference moderator
    and the system manager (user SYSTEM) of the remote node via MAIL.

7)  If the error is "network partner exited" it means either that the remote
    system is overloaded or that there is some problem with NOTES on the
    remote system.  Wait a while and try again later.  If the problem persists,
    contact the moderator of the conference and the system manager of the
    remote node via MAIL.

8)  If the error is "login information invalid at remote node," it means that
    the NOTES server is improperly installed there.  First, follow steps
    (3), (4), and (5) to make sure that your notebook entry is correct and
    that your system has the correct node address.

    If all that stuff is OK, contact the conference moderator and the system
    manager (user SYSTEM) of the remote node via MAIL.

9)  If the error is "file not found," "directory not found," "error in
    device name or inappropriate device type for operation," or "device not
    ready, not mounted, or unavailable," it means either that the NOTES$LIBRARY
    logical name is not set up properly on the remote node, or the notes
    conference file doesn't exist, or the disk containing NOTES$LIBRARY isn't
    mounted.  First, follow steps (3), (4), and (5) to make sure that your
    notebook entry is correct and that your system has the correct node
    address.

    If all that stuff is OK, contact the conference moderator and the system
    manager (user SYSTEM) of the remote node via MAIL.

If all else fails, as a last recourse you may post a note in this
conference reporting the problem.  This note should be entered as a REPLY
to the note that announces the conference.  Before putting in your
reply, make sure you have read all of the previous replies.  You may find
that the conference has moved, or is temporarily down, or something of
that sort.  If you do enter a reply, be sure to include the exact message
that you're getting from NOTES.  Simply saying "I can't seem to get to
conference X" isn't enough information for anybody to help you.

--PSW

    
    This note will tell you how to COMPRESS your NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTE;1
    file.  If you have never done this and you use NOTES often, there 
    is a very good chance that you will benefit from this procedure.  
    
    It will compress, with NO HARM --> your notebook!  As a result, you 
    will regain disk space.  For those of you working with disk quotas, 
    you will be very happy to get some space back! (^%
    
    The next note (3.37) will contain the actual command procedure.  
    Here's what to do -->
    
    1.  Go to the next note and type EXTRACT/NOHEADER COMPRESS.COM
    
    2.  Exit NOTES and type this at your DCL PROMPT --> $@COMPRESS
    
    3.  If you have never done this before and you use NOTES often,
        this procedure can take 3-7 minutes.  WAIT FOR IT TO FINISH!
    
    4.  When the procedure finishes, it will show you that it has made
        two versions of the NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTE file.  Like this -->
    
        NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTE;2
    				 *2,344 (this is the actual block size
    				       	of the new compressed file)
    
    	NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTE;1  
    			 	*19,665 (this is the actual block size
                                       	of the old uncompressed file)
    
    	You can see that Version 2 is much smaller than Version 1. 
    
    *Note:  I made up these numbers to indicate how a sample output
            would work.  Everyone who uses this procedure will get
            actual block size numbers relevant to their specific
            accounts.
    
    5. Do the following to remove the old Version of notes and get
       that disk space back for other uses -->
    
    	$DELETE/LOG NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTES;1  (be sure to delete the
                                             older version.  Version
                                             1 is older than version 2)
    
    
    Additional thanks goes to Lisa Dugal!  She is the one who had a better 
    command procedure than I did!  I tried this on three different systems 
    and got back thousands of blocks with NO negative impact on my 
    NOTES$NOTEBOOK.NOTE file!  Try it!
    
    If you have a question or problem --> post a note right here!
    
    --dc

$!
$ edit := edit
$ analyze := analyze
$ convert := convert
$ delete := delete
$ set := set
$ directory := directory
$ analyze/rms/fdl/out=notes$notebook.fdl notes$notebook.note
$ edit/fdl/nointer/anal=notes$notebook.fdl notes$notebook.fdl 
$ convert/fdl=notes$notebook.fdl notes$notebook.note notes$notebook.note
$ set prot=(o:rwd) notes$notebook.fdl;*
$ delete notes$notebook.fdl;*
$ set prot=(o:rwd) notes$notebook.note;*
$ set prot=(o:rw) notes$notebook.note;
$ directory/size=alloc notes$notebook.note;*
    

    re: -.2
    
    Can you still Compress your notebook if your account does not allow you
    to get to a DCL prompt?  The account I use for notes does not have
    access to the DCL.  If there is a way, please let us know.  I'm all for
    conservation!
    
    Christine

Christine,

Is your account an All-in-1 account?   Is there any option to run a command
procedure from your account?


							Lisa-Marie

    Lisa-Marie,
    
    Yes, it is an All-in-1 account.  I have no idea if I have the option
    you are speaking of.
    
    Christine

Christine,

It's been almost 2 years since I last used All-in-1, so I don't really 
remember how to do much.  I'll ask around as see if anyone knows if you 
access a command procedure from A1.  

BTW, if any other noters out there use A1 and have any suggestions/ideas,
please share them.


							-Lisa

    DC,
    
    Thanks for the Compress command and instructions.  Boy you must have
    had a very big notefile (from 19,665 to 2,344 blocks), mine went from
    48 to 35 blocks.  Since I had never used the command before, it did
    take about 5 minutes to complete.
    
    Many thanks,
    "COC"

    Was wldwst down today before 12:00 or was my system doing weirdos!?  I
    logged in and there was only one topic and it said Where is ABC soaps?

    Barbara,
    
    Check the Welcome to ABC Soaps (1.39) topic and you will see the note 
    that DC put in explaining what happened.
    
    Jo

    Okay DC, what the heck does OMT mean?  That is one that I haven't come
    across before.
    
    Jo

    
    Sorry Jo --> OMT :== one more thing!
    
    --dc

    
    WLDWST was off-line from around 11:45 AM - 3 PM  PST.  To 
    complicate things, FORTSC (10 miles away) was also off-line!  
    Hopefully, everything is fixed and we can get back to noting! (^%
    
    Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you all.
    
    --dc/jan/jo

    I am so sorry to ask this here...but I am desperate to find out where
    IOALOT::SMALL_ANIMALS went to....does anyone know???
    
    I am sorry...I just didn't know who to ask!!!!
    
    ellie

    Log onto Easynet_Conferences and check for it there.  That is the best
    way to find out where a conference moved to.
    
    Jo

    thanks Jo....I did this and it still says that it is under
    IOALOT...which is wrong...it also still says that soaps is under
    IOALOT....so maybe it just need to be updated!!! I'll check again in a
    few weeks
    
    Thanks for your help!!!
    ellie

    Oh well, we tried.  I used to have small animals in my notebook but
    recently deleted it.  If you remember who the moderator was you could
    write them mail.  The name of the moderator might be in Easynet.
    
    Jo

    I can ask Bob Baron, he is the sysmgr of IOALOT, but I know what the
    answer will be.  As with all the other non-business notesfiles on that
    system, it was deleted.  Bob gave everyone until l1/25 to find a new
    home for all these files and the only one that was picked up was
    Classified Ads.  I'll check with Bob sometime today and let you all
    know his answer

    Ellie, Jo, and others,
    
    Small_Animals is gone totally.  No one raised a hand to take it over so
    it was deleted the week after the 1/25 deadline.

    thanks thel and jo for helping!!! 
    
    i went out and bought a *bunny* book that answers all my questions
    about raising bunnies...
    
    THANKS AGAIN
    ellie

    hi jo.............are you there???? My baby bunnies are so cute..all 7
    of them!!!!
    ellie

    Congratulations on the new additions Ellie!  What kind of bunnies are
    they?
    
    Jo

    Oh dear, 
    
    I have to ask a questions again....how do I get a listing of my
    "marks"?  I thought I knew how.....but it didn't work!
    
    Jackie ;-(
    

    
    Guys......I need your help!!
    
    How do you do a set seen last note (what ever it's called)?!?!
    
    
    
    Thanks in advance!  :-)
    nadine
    
    
    

    Hi everyone.  I'd like to know if there is a way to do a directory
    within a note.  For example, if I'm in AMC and I only have time to read
    certain replies, how can I tell which reply number is which?  
    
    The way I worded that question almost confused me so if I'm not clear
    just let me know.  By then I'll have figured out how to ask the
    question.
    
    Thanks

	POBOX::BRADDIX  ==>  I think what you want to do is something
	like the following:

	If you wanted to get a directory for all the replies in the
	AMC note, you would do the command:

		Notes>  DIR 14.*

	Also, if you wanted to narrow the directory listing down to just
	notes entered after a certain date, you can do that too.  

		Notes> DIR/SINCE=date 14.*

	An example of a directory listing for all GH replies posted
	this week, I would look like:

		Notes> DIR/SINCE=25-FEB-1991 16.*

    Lisa,
    
    Your directions for getting a directory worked like a charm!  Thank you
    so much.
    
    mlb

    
    Jackie,
    
    To get a display of all of your marks in this conference just type -->
    
    		NOTES>  SHOW MARK
    
    --dc

    Wow, I shoulda had a V8!
    
    Thanks, I knew I knew how to do it!  A mind is a terrible thing to
    waste, but mine is definitely wasted!
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jackie  ;-)

    Nadine,
    
    Do a set seen/before= date
    example: set seen/before=28-feb-1991
    
    Then after you do that, you can use your 10 keypad,
    the comma will advance you to the next unseen note
    
    Hope this is what you were looking for.
    
    Robyn

    
    Thanks alot Robin!..................I will try that!
    
    
    
    /nadine   :^)
    

    
    Some of you may want to compress your VAXMAIL messages and get back 
    some disk space!  Remember, your mail is [[NOT]] really deleted until 
    you do this!  Here's how -->
    
    MAIL> COMPRESS
    
    (wait a few minutes until the mail prompt comes back)
    
    Then exit mail and get to your DCL prompt ($).
    
    Type $DELETE/LOG MAIL.OLD
    
    If you have your VAXMAIL going to a directory called MAIL.DIR then
    set default to MAIL.DIR like this:
    
    $SET DEF [.MAIL]
    
    Then you can type the $DELETE/LOG MAIL.OLD
    
    If you have a problem with this, post a note right here!
    
    --dc

    We here in the Midwest were having a heck of a time trying to get in
    yesterday......it said remote node unreachable....what's up?
    
    Jackie ;-)
    

I don't know of any problems with Wldwst yesterday.  I was able to get in when
I tried.  DC has been out again, and Jan is still out, so I haven't got anyone 
else to talk it over with.  As far as I know, there weren't any system problems.

Jo

    Boy dc, can't you give up Natalie for just one afternoon and answer
    some of these technical questions ;^)
    
    /red

    Jo:
    
    Thanks for checking it out!  Must be it was on our end!  How are you
    holding up with everyone deserting you?  ha ha
    
    Jackie  ;-)
    

I am not holding up well!! :^)  I am beginning to wonder if DC has gone AWOL!
I mean, geez!  How much training does a person need??  I think the training 
excuse is just that, an excuse.  He is surely on St. Tristan with Natalie.

Jo

    The WLDWST mixed-interconnect VAXcluster was unavailable due to a
    friendly power "glitch" that crashed 75% of our hardware.  I spent the
    afternoon picking up the pieces.  You should of been there.  :-)
    
    --Ron

    RON:
    
    THANKS FOR PICKING UP THE PIECES!
    
    By any chance, if you have some pieces left over and it is Travis and
    Bianca,....throw them away!  ha ha  %^)
    
    dc....you better get back here fast and give Jo a little rest!
    
    But......Jo:  you're doin' a GREAT job!
    
    Jackie  ;-)
    

Jackie,

Thank you for your support! %^)

Jo

    Ok, I have this whopper technical question.
    
    How do you get parts of someone elses memo and bring it into your reply
    so that you can refer to what they said?
    
    
    Jackie

Hi Jackie,

There are a couple of ways of doing what you want to do.  I usually use the
following method because it's the quickest for me and it is the quickest if
the note you want to include pieces of is long!


When you REPLY to a note, Notes usually puts you into the TPU editor.
1/2 your screen is the note you are replying to (usually the top half), and
the other half (bottom) is the note you are typing.   Assuming you are using 
the standard DEC keyboard, you want to do something like the following (and I 
hope this isn't too confusing to follow):

Notes> REPLY

(now in editor)

1. Press DO key, type OTHER  (this will get you to the other half of the screen)
2. Use arrow keys to position cursor just before text you want to include
3. Press the SELECT key
4. Use arrow keys to highlight any text you want to include in your note
5. Press REMOVE key
6. Press DO key, type OTHER
7. Press the INSERT HERE key


I hope this helped.  There are other methods for doing this or if you want to
include a whole note but some of those have already been posted here (go back 
and read previous notes in this topic).

								-Lisa

Jackie,
    
    This is the easiest way I've found.  Just edit out anything you don't
    want in the note (obviously, I haven't done that with this one).
    
    - Kathryn
    
             <<< WLDWST::NOTES$:[NOTES$LIBRARY]ABC_SOAPS.NOTE;1 >>>
                           -< ABC Soaps Conference >-
================================================================================
Note 3.27                 Technical Questions Answered                  27 of 78
EXIT26::MACDONALD_K                                  11 lines  12-FEB-1991 11:50
                          -< I don't have DECwindows >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You can also try this:
    
    At the note you wish to extract and use in your own reply type:
    
    EXTRACT/BUFFER NOTES$EDIT
    
    Then type:  REPLY/LAST  and you'll get the whole note in your buffer
    and you can edit out what you don't want to include.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    Lisa & Kathryn:
    
    Thanks!  It works!
    
    Jackie
    
    P.S.  You're right, I shoulda did a directory for this topic before I
    asked.  But thanks for answering anyway!!!!
    

    Okay, here I am with another technical question:
    
    I have a document in VAXmail.  I want to print it, but the person who
    sent it told me to print it to "print this to a .ps file.
    
    When I told it to print/queue=aci4$dan it didn't work.  What am I doing
    wrong, and how do I do it?
    
    Jackie
    

Hi Jackie,

What kind of printer is aci4$dan (ie, is it an LN03 scriptwriter, LPS40, etc?)
If you don't know, you can ask around your group, somebody might know.  We'll
need this info to help you get that file to print.

Also, if you are able to get to the $ prompt (I know many people can't due to
captured accounts), you can do a $ SHOW QUEUE.  It give you a list of all the
queues available to your system.  You may find that you have a queue that is 
already set up for Postscript (.PS files) printing.  Look for something like
pos4$dan or post4$dan or something with "post" in it and try that.


							-Lisa

    Lisa,  I have a ln03 ScriptPrinter (Postscript printer), is that what
    you needed?  the ACI4$DAN is my system printer que
    
    Jackie
    

Hi Jackie,

First of all find out what the queue is for you LNO3 ScriptPrinter is.
and try printing to that.  Normally, the scriptprinters are set up to
handle postscript just by typing $ print/queue=<scriptprinter queue> (atleast
in the last 3 building I worked in they had them setup that way).

If that still doesn't work, try using the command:
$ print/queue=<scriptprinter queue>/param=(data=postscript)

where <scriptprinter queue> is the queue name for your scriptprinter.

I hope this makes sense.  Let me know how you make out.


							-Lisa

    
    RE .81
    
    Before you print it make sure you have: Extract/nohead = file.ps  
    
    I think that is what the person means when they told you to
    'print to a .ps file.'
    
    It is very important to have .ps extension when printing
    postscript files.  Hopefully, you can print your file now.
    
    Kristen
    
    

    
    
    AGAIN....this file has held its own!
    
    
    IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jackie
    

    Vaslerie:
    
    How do you toggle back and forth?
    
    Jackie

    Hey Valerie.................You out there?  How do you toggle back and
    forth?
    
    
    Jackie
    

    What happened to notes 35 and 36?
    

    Notes 35 and 36 were moved to topics that were more suited to their
    content.
    
    When we move a note and its replies to a different location, the 
    system deletes the old location.  When that happens in the middle
    of the directory it can cause skips in the numeric sequences of
    the notes.  When it happens at the end, the next time a topic is
    created, the number should be used again.
    
    For example:  I moved your note (3.89) from it's original location
    as topic 41.0 because I felt it was a technical question and belonged
    in this topic.  Next time a new topic is created it should become the
    new topic 41.0.
    
    Did I explain that okay?  Are you confused yet?
    
    Jan
    Co-mod ABC_SOAPS

    
    Great explanation Jan --> I didn't know that when you move a base
    note that is in a numbered sequence, we can't reuse that number
    unless it is the last topic in the conference!  Now I know why we 
    have skipped a few numbers!  Where's my manual! <=(^% Thanks Jan!
    
    --dc

    For those of you wondering what happened to note 41.0-.1, I am way
    ahead of you this time, here is the explanation before the question!
    
    I just moved note 41 and it's replies to the Personal Dating Service
    topic, #11.  When I moved the note, I got an error message saying that
    the record did not lock.  That is why note 41 appears to be there, but
    you can't read it.  It is some kind of a glitch.  
    
    Those wishing to read more about Walt Willey at the comedy club can
    find the information in note number 11.99.  I moved it because it
    seemed to fit into the personal dating topic due to the noters wishing
    to get together for that show.
    
    Jo

    So.....that is what happend to my I NEED topic!  I wondered, when I
    said "read/mark need" it skipped to the next topic!
    
    I thought somehow I had deleted it!
    
    Jackie
    

Jackie,

I think the mods changed it to RESOURCES/INFORMATION REQUESTS (note 40).
You may want to verify that though.

							-Lisa

    Lisa:
    
    You're right, but for a while I was really confused.  In other
    conferences, it seems the mods let the people know when they move
    something, or in this case rename it.  I just thought it was old age
    again and I couldn't find it!
    
    Jackie
    

    
    
    Hi,
        I recently tried to locate where a certain node was by using
    UT FINDNODE and was unable to do so. It stated no such utility!
    I know at one time it worked. Is there no such thing now or is it
    just in the good old WLDWST that its no longer usable?  Any help
    will be appreciated.
    
    janice

HI Janice,

I don't know anything about WLDWST, but the utility VTX has a way to find
node locations.  On most systems, you type VTX NODE_LOCATION and a menu
with some directions will come up.   Maybe you could give that a try.


							Lisa

    
    Thanks Lisa! I tried the directions you gave me and they worked.
    
    janice

    Does anyone know how to delete words or letters?  My natural instinch
    is to use the wordprocessing keys, but they don't work.  I keep making
    typos and can't correct them!!
    
    Thanks, Renee

    Renee, it depends on what editor your file profile is set at.  I set
    mine for EDT and use those editing keys.  Somewhere in this note
    there is an instruction note, can't remember what number it is though.

    
    Hi Renee,
    
    This is probably a repeat that was already answered in this note
    (for the technical questions and answers) --> to make it quick and
    easy for ya, try doing this in Notes --->
    
    NOTES> SET PROFILE/EDITOR=EDT
    
    If you prefer WPS as your editor --> then type in WPS instead 
    of EDT.
    
    For a personal name string do this -->
    
    NOTES> SET PROFILE/PERSONAL_NAME="whatever you want inside the 
    quote marks!"  You can change it everyday if you want to!  (^%
    
    --dc

    
    
    Technical question time:
    
    Let's say that I have just entered an UPDATE and I forgot to put in a
    "ctrl L".  It is already entered.  Is there a way that I can edit the
    note that I just posted?
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Jackie, the only way I know how to do that is to delete the note and
    then type reply/last.  It will bring your note back and then you can
    make changes to it before you enter it again.
    
    /red

    Jackie, 
     /red is corrct as far as I know.  I do this all the time when I've 
    goofed and didn't notice it before control/Z.  Just type N at the
    question "do you want to post you note" (or whatever it says), then
    type reply/last at the note prompt.  Your just deleted note will 
    reappear on the screen in edit mode.
    
    BTW:  I've also found this works about 60% of the time is the netwrk
    path is last while you are typing a reply.  Re-open the note select 
    the note number (GH = 16) and type the same thing "Reply/Last"...then
    cross your fingers!   (<:

    To be on the safe side, I extract and name it from the file(ex.
    GH.txt;), then delete the note I made a mistake on.  Then I do a
    "Spawn", which bring to the dollar sign on the VAX.  Then I edit the
    document, log out and to a "reply gh.txt;" and the note comes back
    edited.  Seems long but I have it mastered!!
    
    Cheryl

    That's how I do it too...

    /red:
    
    I tried it and it worked!  (See my last note in AMC).  I haven't tried
    the others, but plan to!
    
    Thanks all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Jackie
    

    I have been trying to use the "MARK" command to mark my place, but
    everytime I try to do this I get "ACP File Extend Failed"  What is
    this?  Is this on my end or yours? What am I doing wrong?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Susan

    I also have a question:
    
    I need to print off an entire topic in the CIM notesfile.  Any way of
    doing that other than "print/queue=________" at each one?
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Yes... go to the note and type print/que=printer_name  number.*
    for instance, if I wanted this note and all it's replies I would type
    at the NOTES> print/que=ln03 3.*
    
    and it would print it all under one heading at your printer.
    
    M-L

    Printing a whole topic generally isn't a good idea.  Moderators get
    nervous when they hear things like that. :^)  Anyway, remember to
    remove all the headers before printing.  Do an "extract/noheader" when
    you extract the topic to a file.
    
    Jo

    M-L:
    
    Thanks a bunch!  I needed something that was quicker than the way I was
    doing it!
    
    
    Jo:
    
    We receive a Synopsis of what the Topic is and are told if we want the
    entire "article", we should go into the notesfile and print off a copy! 
    Each part of the article is put in as ___.1, ___.2, etc.  That's the 
    only reason I asked!
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Susan --> do you only get this error in ABC-SOAPS?  Here is a 
    sample MARK command -->
    
    NOTES> MARK AMC
    NOTES> EXIT
    
    (Now you are at DCL)
    
    $NOTES
    NOTES> READ/MARK AMC
    
    That should get you to the last note you read in AMC, while
    opening the conference for you.  Let us know if the problem
    persists.
    
    --dc

    I get this error in a couple of files although not all of them.  
    In this Note I also tried to cancel a marker called DS and it says
    marker not known. Yet when I do a directory of my markers in this 
    Note, it shows up.  
    
    Susan

    This isn't AMC related, but can someone help me??  One of my notes
    files has moved to another node and I don't know how to add it to my
    directory.  I thought I knew how to do it, but I think I'm missing one
    little step when I try it.  The node name is TBEARS.  Can someone give
    me a short blurb to let me know how to add the new one and delete the
    old one???
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Virginia

    Hi,
    
    I first deleted the first one the add entry tbears::dool and it
    worked!!

    An easier way (IMHO) is to modify the entry...if it's DAYS were talking
    about try...
    
    NOTES>modify entry DOOL/file=TBEARS::DOOL
    
    That should do it.
    
    /red

    I tried the delete and add method, but I think I was leaving something
    out because it wasn't working for me.  I did the "modify entry" and it
    worked!
    
    Thanks for the help.
    
    Virginia

    
    Susan --> use this command to delete a bookmark.
    
    NOTES> DEL MARK DS
    
    I think you want to talk to the system manager on USWAV1.  
    The problem you are describing --> may be the result of your
    UAF record attributes being set too low.  Once they are 
    increased --> the problem should go away!  
    
    --dc

I know a silent noter who picked up the tape I think you guys are talking 
about in AMC. 

She hasn't had much luck with the tape.  The tape itself is appears to be 
thinner than many other brands (probably so they can fit more tape onto the 
spool.  Her VCR (an older model) just loves to eat the tape.  Also I would 
assume that the thinner tape would wear out alot faster too (that's just my 
personal opinion).


If you are really looking for higher quality tape, I've always has good luck
using the Maxell HGX.  It is a little on the expensive side, but I've been 
using the same tape for 3+ years now and I haven't had any problems.

Just my opinion.  If others have more info, I'm sure we'd all love to hear it!

    The tape I have is a regular 6 hr one.  It is pink.  It's called "all my
    soaps".  I think the quality is pretty good.  I picked it up at a
    grocery store.  I don't remember exactly when but at least a year or
    two ago.  It is still going strong!
    
    A twelve hour one would be great for vacations!
    doreen

    I use a regular tape and haven't had much trouble at all!
    
    Also, just a hint to all of our ABC noters.......watch when Digital
    people throw out old VHS tapes.  If they even have 29+ minutes on them
    when you record in extended play you get 60 minutes!
    
    Recycle....recycle.,...recycle!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Thanks ffor all this tape info, you gize!!
    
    Bon

    I have a question that I think has been answered and I have looked
    in the technical questions and couldn't find it please help.
    
    I wanted to go back and change something in my entry .3373 after
    I entered it and I couldn't do it.  I wanted to take out the 
    that Erica at the bottom, I don't know how to do it.
    
    Please help!!!!  I have tried several things.
    
    Thanks a bunch.
    
    TCRAMER
    

    Tracey:
    
    See .103.....it works great!
    
    
    Jackie
    

    
    Mods/Comods:
    
    I have a question.  Is it possible for you to go thru the technical
    file here and throw out the ones that are not questions/answers and
    rename the one's that don't have a name?   I was just trying to find a
    note that I knew was in this technical note and couldn't find
    it....then I found it but when I did a dir 3.* it didn't show it
    because the name wasn't right.  How frustrating!
    
    Also, maybe we could start now and make sure the name for each is
    correct.
    
    Suggestion, only!
    
    Jackie
                            

    The moderators have discussed the possibility of going back through
    this topic to rename all the notes and delete non-related notes and 
    have come to the conclusion that none of us really has enough time 
    to devote to that project.
    
    What we would like to suggest for future notes in this topic is that
    everyone make an effort to give a brief idea of your question or answer
    in the title of the note.
    
         Example:      -<?: How do I ... >-         ? = Question
                       -<A: How do I ... >-         A = Answer
      
    Hopefully, the practice of adding descriptive titles will make things
    easier to find in this topic in the future.
    
    Jan
    ABC_SOAPS Moderator
                                               

    
    
    Jan:  
    
    Thanks for answering.  I guess I never realized how much work it
    would be!
    
    Your suggestion for future questions is Right On!
    
    Thanks!
    
    Jackie

    Hi,
    
    Does anyone know if the Santa Barbara notesfile has moved? I was
    out for a few days last week, and I know there was some mention
    of the original node being taken over.
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    sheila
    

    
    ABC-SOAP noters --> we had an unusual phenomenon occur in the early
    PM here in Northern Californ i A!  We lost our link from Santa Clara
    to Cupertino --> the home of WLDWST.  It has now been restored.  We 
    don't how many of you were affected by this problem, but service has
    been restored and we are back in business!
    
    --dc

    
    WLDWST is having some very bad link problems.  Those of us that run on
    the WSTer... Are having big probs..
    
    :(
    
    
    

    
    WLDWST is back on the network.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  The 
    link between Santa Clara and Cupertino, Californ i A --> has now been 
    repaired!
    
    --dc

    Glad "We're" up again!
    
    
    Question:  I know how to do a dir in the note you are in, but is there
    a way to do a dir from a certain point to the end?  Like
    
    14.3000 to last?
    
    
    Jackie
    

    do this...
    
    Notes> dir 14.3000-.*
    
    That will give you a dir from .3000 to the end.  Don't forget the .
    before the * though.
    
    Jo

    the -last would work too.
    
    /red

    Does anyone out there know how to tape from the TV to VCR??  I got
    my vcr second hand, without a manual.  Does the tv have to be on?
    What channel do you put it on??  Any help would be appreciated.  I
    just started working earlier hours and can't see AMC on Monday, 
    Thursday or Fridays.  
    
    Thanks,
    Janice

Janice --> Every VCR is different.  If you could post the brand of VCR you have
	maybe one of us can help you.

    Janice.... One thing I can tell you is that a VCR does not record from
    your T.V. but from the cable/antenna signal coming into your house. 
    Most VCR's I've seen you plug your cable into the VCR and another cable
    runs from the VCR to the T.V.  But posting the brand would be your best
    bet.  Chance are one of us has a similar brand and may be able to help.
    
    Marie

    One more thing Janice, do you have cable, if so do you use a cable box?
    
    /red

    No, I don't have cable.  I will look tonight and see what kind of
    VCR I have.  Thanks for the responses.
    
    		- Janice

    Janice, do you use an outdoor antenna???
    
    /red

    Red - No, I don't have an outdoor antenna...  But wouldn't you know
    it?  I forgot to check to see what kind of vcr I have (pretty bad
    that I don't even know the brand...)
    
    I guess I'll be missing it again today...  8^(
    
    - Janice

    Awww, Bummer, Jancie!!
    
    I hope you get it going soon!! Well, at least you get to see Tracey's
    updates right after the show ends!!! Thank goodness for her & her
    mini-TV!
    
    good luck!
    
    Bonnie

    Just wanted to let you know that I figured out how to tape the show.
    Now, If I can figure out how to set the timer to automatically tape
    when the show starts, i'll be all set!!  
    
    Thanks for the help!
    Janice
    

    GOOD LUCK!!
    
    Bon

    I have been trying to delete some conferences from my notes
    directory with no success.  I know in the past I did a DELETE ENTRY
    command, however, that does not seem to work any more -- HELP!!!
    

    del entry node::name
    
    /red

    You can also try 
    
                Delete entry notename/class=*
    
    

    I have found that delete entry conference name works.  If you use the
    nodename and conference name you get an error message.
    
    Jo

    Jo is absolutely correct.  I don't know where my mind was at.  One
    thing to remember tho is if you have a long conference name your
    directory may be showing an abbreviated form and it won't delete, you
    must enter the whole name:  example if you have DIGITAL_MYTHS_DEBUNKED
    you directory will show it as DIGITAL_MYTHS_DEBUNK, if you type in
    delete entry digital_myths_debunk, it will tell you its not found.  You
    have to type in DIGITAL_MYTHS_DEBUNKED.
    
    I hope this made things clears and not hazier.
    
    /red

    What does it mean when entering notes the phrase " exceeded Enqueue
    quota?
    
    thanks,
    
    doreen

    I have contacted our system manager and he tells me he recently did
    a software upgrade to WLDWST.  He has just had to increase the ENQUEUE
    limit on WLDWST too.  This should fix the problem.  If you continue
    to get this message, please let me know so I can pass it on to Ron.
    But, as of this time, the problem should be fixed.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAPS

    Jan,
    
    I've been getting this all afternoon. I just finished reading your
    message, and had to exit out. When I tried to get back in, I got
    it again.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Sheila
    

    I know.  I just had to try 10 times to get in.  I just got off the
    phone with Ron and he is trying to figure out why this is still 
    happening.  He upgraded the system to a later version of VMS and
    right now he is blaming VMS for this problem but he doesn't know
    the reason for it.  He will contact me when/if he get get it fixed.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAPS

    I was told that the enqueue exceeded could be avoided it one enters
    through $ instead of in All-in-One.
    
    doreen

    That is how I always enter notes and it still was happening.  I
    don't think the problem exists any more though.  If anyone is
    still getting that message, please let me know.
    
    Jan

    Testing 1, 2, 3.
    
    Okay, the conference is back on track.
    
    Jo

    How can I delete the old soap notes file and I have a holiday travel
    file that I used once a long time ago?
    
    doreen

    Hi Doreen,
    
    Do this---> at the NOTES> prompt, type DELETE ENTRY IOALOT::SOAPS and
    it will delete the old file. For the Holiday Travel one, you'll have to 
    fimd out the node name it resides on in order to delete it. to do this,
    open the file, and it will give you a message like this------>
    "opening NODENAME::Holiday_Travel" then you'll know the nodename so you
    can now use the delete command.
    
    Hope this helped!!
    
    Bonnie

    Hi Bon,
    
    That's not quite right.  Jo corrected me the last time this came up. 
    They just need to DEL ENTRY SOAPS, or DEL ENTRY HOLIDAY_TRAVEL.
    
    /red

    I would do a "delete entry soaps" and a delete entry Holiday_travel"
    instead.  I always get an error message when I include the nodename.
    
    Jo

    Bonnie, /Red, and Jo thanks for the prompt responses.  I tried /red's
    method.  It said they were deleted.  
    
    thanks for the help,
    doreen

    I hope this isn't a duplicate question, but I keep having disk space
    problems in A1 because of Notes.  I know about compressing the file, but
    I also wanted to "edit" out the topics I never read.  I've tried using all
    these recent instructions for deleting entry, and it won't work.  I
    don't want to delete all of ABC_SOAPS (obviously).  Is there some way
    to do this?  Can I "customize" my abc_soaps with only a handful of the
    available topics?
    
    Valerie  

    Hi!!  I just got a new Persian kitty and I wanted to start
    a note over in Feline BUT I forgot how to start a brand new
    note.  I usually do a reply/edit and just attach notes.
    How do I start one?
    
    Perky!!

    You start a new note by typing WRITE.  This will open up a new topic
    for you.
    
    Good luck.
    
    Kathy

    "perky",
    
    There is an introductions note in Feline that you can introduce your
    cat in.  I think it is topic number 2.
    
    Jo (who is also moderator of Feline)

    Thanks for the reply so quickly!!!!  Jo see ya there!!!
    
    Perky!!

    Re:  .163
    
    As far as I know there is no way for you to edit out the topics in
    ABC_SOAPS that you do not read.  I believe it is out of your control.
    The file is set up on WLDWST and appears on your system in its complete
    form when you access it through notes.
    
    Jan

    Re: .163
    
    Can you log into notes from a $ prompt rather than from All-in-1?
    If not, just keep your notes notebook compressed.  Also, if you have
    files in your notebook that you rarely use, delete them. (don't delete
    the notes$sample conference!) ;^)
    
    Jo

    
    Doing a compression of your VAXnote NOTEBOOK is a good way to reclaim 
    some disk space --> 
    
    		Read note 3.37 and 3.38 for details.
    
    If you get stuck, please send me mail!!! (^%
    
    --dc

    Perky,
    
    I had this problem several months ago, and what I ended up having
    to do was have the A1 system manager do some reprogramming to prevent
    notes from eating up my disk space.  He said this problem happened
    to people every once in a while. He also told me if I don't read all
    the notes, do a set seen today everyweek to mark them all read.  It's
    the unread notes that eats up the disk.
    
    Angie

    HELP, HELP, HELP,....HELP, HELP!
    
    I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRUSTRATED!
    
    I am trying to add Cross Country Skiing to my notebook and no matter
    how I do it, it JUST WON'T WORK!
    
    Am I a ditz today or what?
    
    Can anyone help me?
    
    Jackie
    

    Is anyone out there in the Cross Country Skiiing file?
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie,
    
    I would need some details before I could begin to figure out the
    problem.
    
    /red

    /red:
    
    I have tried everything.  Here is how it is listed:
    
    ARTIE::ARTIE1:[NOTES$TOPICS]X_C_SKIING
    
    It adds okay, but when you try to open it...no such luck!  Try it and
    see what happens for you....let me know how you do.
    
    
    and.......as always THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie,
    
    I just added ARTIE::ARTIE1:[NOTES$TOPICS]X_C_SKIING to my notesfile
    and opened and closed it a couple of times without any problems.
    Have you tried deleting and readding it?  Also, are you using the
    number 1 or the letter l in the ARTIE1: section?  Just grabbing
    at straws trying to see what could possibly be the problem.
    
    Jan

    Jackie,
    
    When you go to open it, what are you calling it.....in other words at
    the NOTE> prompt after you type open what do you put after it?
    
    /red

    JAN & RED:
    
    It must have been my ditzy day yesterday.....I tried everything!  When
    I read your notes I decided to try again this morning and IT WORKED!
    
    Do you think it is possible that my keyboard or VT220 had PMS
    yesterday?  ha ha
    
    
    Jackie
    

    Jackie,
    
    I think keyboard PMS is entirely possible.  Mine seems to have it
    quite often.
    
    Glad you got that darned note added and opened.
    
    Jan

    Questions:
    
    
    1.  Is there a way to print a copy of the topics in the AMC conference?
    
    2.  Is there a way to print a copy of the notes (reply's) entered for
    	a specific topic?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jackie  

    Jackie 
    
    you could do dir/output=amc.txt
    
    This would put a copy of the whole directory into a vms file called
    amc.txt.
    
    If you want to print say note number 14 (you would need alot of time
    and paper) you would type print 14.* (at this point I have to designate
    a printer) .
    
    let me know if this isn't what you had in mind.
    
    /red

    I want to know if there is a way to change my default printer in notes? 
    I have tried all different ways it even shows my printer list on my
    profile but if I just type print with out typing /que=......then it
    goes to sys$print.  HELP HELP HELP!!!!
    
    /red

    /red:
    
    Thanks!  It worked.  At the $> I just told it to print to my system
    printer and it worked wonderfully!
    
    THANKS AGAIN!
    
    
    jackie
    

    Just a reminder everyone, if you extract and print anything from this
    file, you must do so with ALL headers removed.  To do this, type
    "extract/noheader foo.txt...."
    
    This notesfile is for internal use only.
    
    Jo

    
    /red --> to change the logical for your sys$print, you have to create
    or edit your login.com file.  Otherwise, when you do a -->
    
    $show logical sys$print
    
    you get the printer that the System Manger set up for all the users.
    
    Put in a line like this in your login.com file -->
    
    $define/job sys$print your-printer-name
    
    Then execute your login.com like this -->
    
    $@login
    
    then do a --> 
    
    $show logical sys$print
    
    From now on, all print jobs will go to the new printer with just 
    the --> PRINT command!  Let me know if there is a problem, it's 
    late and I may have left out a step!!!! (^%
    
    --dc

    Thanks DC!!!!!!!!
    
    /red

      Hi,

      Anybody know how to program the Cable TV box?  Currently, I have
      to program the VCR, then leave the Cable TV box on all day set
      to channel 5.  The TV can be off.  Unfortunately, I keep forgetting
      to turn the Cable TV box on so I rarely see the soaps!  I know that
      my box is programmable, however, the cable company neglected to
      give me directions to do it.  Anybody have a box that could tell
      me the steps to take?

	Thanks,

	Karen

    Karen,
    
    When I hook my old vcr up thru the cable box (new vcr gets all channels
    so it doen't require a cable box) I just make sure when I turn off the
    cable box it's on channel 5 and that's the channel that gets recorded. 
    Works great as long as there is not a power failure, or you have a
    husband like mine that unplugs the cable box to plug in the vacuum
    cleaner.  He thinks he does me a big favor by plugging the box back in
    before the recorder comes on, but what he doesn't realize is that the
    box resets itself for channel 2. So I come home to 2hrs of Sesame
    Street and Mr. Rogers.
    
    /red

    
    Hi,
    
    I would like to know how I can enter a .txt file to a topic.  I know it
    can be done, but how???
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dianne

Dianne --> If you want to take a file, like A.TXT, and bring it into a
	topic, you do the following:

		Notes>  REPLY A.TXT

    
    
    	This is the first time I've been in this note, and a while back
    	DC showed everyone how to compress their notebooks...well I just
    	thought I would share something with you.
    
    	I compress mine at least once a week because it grows so fast,
    	but anyways, twice when I purged the versions of my notebook,
    	and went into notes, it blew away my notebook and created a
    	new notebook each time I entered notes...
    
    	I had to have my notebook restored twice...operations is beginning
    	not to like me too much!
    
    	Just thought I would warn everyone to be careful when you do this.
    
    	Alexis

    It is always a good idea when compressing your notebook to go into
    Notes and make sure all your stuff is still there before purging the
    old version.  Also, if you enter your conference and enter the
    set seen command to set all your unseen notes as seen you will
    not grow your Notebook much.  It is the unseen notes that start
    to eat up your disk space. To do this, open the conference and
    enter the set seen command.
    
    	Notes>  open abc_soaps
    	     >  set seen
    
     or you can enter a date on the set seen command.  No date is the
    default and the dafault is today.  You can enter any date and then
    the notes entered before that date will be set seen.  This is for
    when you like to use the read next unseen command.
         
    Nancy

    
    Sometimes you have a big note to post and the system crashes or
    won't let you make a network link.  This procedure could save you 
    from having to retype your note all over again!
    
    If you have a note typed into your buffer and the system where you
    want to post it has crashed --> first, try to reconnect, but don't 
    leave notes.
    
    If you can reconnect, type at the NOTES prompt --> REPLY/LAST.   
    This should bring up your buffer with your note already in it.
    
    If you can't reconnect to the system that crashed --> try this.  
    
    Don't leave notes, but open another conference instead.  Do a 
    REPLY/LAST to get your buffer emptied.  Then do an 
    EXTRACT FILENAME.TXT.  Now that you have your note dumped into 
    another conference, and you have extracted it to VMS, you can
    wait for your system to come back up --> then you can post your
    file with this command --> NOTES> REPLY FILENAME.TXT.
    
    NOTE--> ***** BE SURE TO [[[DELETE]]] THE NOTE YOU DUMPED INTO 
    ANOTHER CONFERENCE AFTER YOU HAVE EXTRACTED IT. *******************
    
    There has to be an easier way to save a buffer in notes when you 
    can't post it due to system failure.  Maybe someone can tell us how 
    to save a few steps.  For now, the above method will save your 
    buffer in the event of a system failure/network link problem.
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    DC-->I save a note the same way you described.  The only way to protect
    a long note is to first create it in vtx and then post it into notes.
    
    /red

Another way of adding a LONG note without having to worry about losing it,
is to do the following:

1. Edit SOAP.TXT (with your editor of choice)
	
	write text of your note

2. Exit the editor

3. $ NOTES
4. Notes> OPEN ABC_SOAPS
5. Go to the note you wish to add the reply to.
	For example:  if you want to add it AMC, go to note 14.

4. Notes> REPLY SOAP.TXT

	The file soap.txt will be included into the reply buffer.
	You can now make any last minute changes here

5. CTRL/Z
6. Add title
7. Y to add reply

And your done!   Then if you want you can go back and delete SOAP.TXT from your
directory (at the $ prompt).

For those of you using All-in-1, I'm not sure how this will work.  I don't
know all-in-1.  Sorry.

    HELP!!  --Steph is having "technical difficulties"... and she 'aint' 
    likin' it!  :-)  Here's the scoop...

    I modified my profile and set a printer - using the following command...

    SET PROFILE /PRINT="/QUEUE=STARR$LN3/NOWAIT"

    The profile accepted this fine.  But when I go to a note and try to print,
    by typing PRINT, I get the following MONDO BIZZARO message...

    "Invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special characters"

    What am I doing wrong??  The "STARR$LN3" is (obviously!) my printer 
    name.

    Thanks Bunches!!!!
    --Steph

    It must be the format of the command, since it mentions special
    characters.  I am no expert on this stuff, but I would say that
    probably the /'s are in the wrong place.
    
    Jo

    Steph --> check out .185 in this note, dc helped me do this a while
      	      back and it works great!
    
    /red

    
    /red --> Thanks babe!  I'm headin' over to .185 as soon as I hit 
    CONTROL Z!!!!!!!!!! :-)
    
    --Steph
    
    P.S.  Give Bon a big HELLO for me!

    
    It didn't work!!!!!!!!
    
    I plugged the appropriate line into my LOGIN.COM as directed, then
    executed my LOGIN.COM by typing @LOGIN.COM.  Fine and Dandy!  Next
    I typed "$ show logical sys$print" and it came up with...
    
       "SYS$PRINT" = "STARR$LN3" (LNM$JOB_809CBAF0)
       "SYS$PRINT" = "MLO" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    
    I went back, looked all thru my LOGIN.COM for the "MLO" command and
    couldn't find it.  It 'aint' there!!  When I entered "PRINT" to print
    a note from this file, I got the "...check use of special characters"
    message again.
    
    HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  please :-)
    
    --Steph
    

    Steph... I really have no idea but...is it possible you might want
    to type STARR$LN03 instead of STARR$LN3 ?
    
    Just a thought.
    
    Marie

    
    Hi Marie!!  Thanks for the thought... but it won't work because my
    printer name really IS STARR$LN3!
    
    HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    --Steph
    

    Steph ---> try changing the print que in notes back to sys$print and
    	       see if that makes a difference.
    
    
    
    /red

    I just checked my profile and my print qualifiers says NONE, what does
    yours say????
    
    /red

    
    Yo /red!  I took your suggestion in .203 and changed the print queue
    to SYS$PRINT!  It worked... BUT --> my entries are printing on the
    MLO printer, NOT my STARR$LN3 printer!!!!!!!!!!!  
    
    MORE HELP PLEASE!
    
    --The Pest :-)
    

    
    My PRINT qualifiers reads as follows...
    
    PRINT qualifiers:   /QUEUE=Sys$PRINT/NOWAIT
    
    UGH!
    
    --Steph
    

    Steph,  I don't know if your note .196 left a space between 
    Profile /Print just for read purposes, but if you really let the space
    when you typed the command, it could be one of your problems.  Also, if
    there isn't a space, try moving the slash (/) from before the word QUEUE 
    to before the quotation mark (").
    
            i.e.  SET PROFILE/PRINT=/"QUEUE=STARR$LN3/NOWAIT"
    
    Sorry my handy little instruction booklet doesn't show how to set
    Print, but where it does show  quote, it shows it after a slash.
    

    Well Steph....I'm stumped!!!
    
    When I do show qualifier sys$print I get
    
       "SYS$PRINT"="SECURITY" (LNM$JOB_818E2610)
    1  "SECURITY"="MR1_1_L9_LN3" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
       "SYS$PRINT"="TO_CLEVER_SYS$PRINT" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    
    I don't know how or why that "1" is there, maybe that signifies what I
    have put in my login.com
    
    Good Luck!!!
    
    /red

    
    /red --> Your many efforts haven't gone unappreciated!  Thank you so
    much for trying to help me.  This sounds like a Moderator/System Mgr
    problem...
    
    --Steph
    

    
    Steph --> get out of notes (after you read this) and try doing this!
    
    $ show logical sys$print
    
    If you get two separate printers listed instead of one --> then there
    are two printers identified as sys$print.  If there really are two, then 
    we'll have to edit your login.com file to set [YOUR] sys$print to be 
    the one to correctly respond to the PRINT command.  Otherwise, whenever 
    you use just the word PRINT as your command, the system will print
    your job on what the system thinks is it's sys$print queue!
    
    Remember, if this is done right, the word PRINT is really just a logical
    name (shortcut) for the whole print command.  That's why you have to
    execute your login.com file like this, after the edits are made --> 
    $ @login, to make the edits current!
    
    Until the login.com is fixed, you can direct any job to the printer you
    really want it to go to, by issuing this command outside of notes -->
    
    $print/queue=STARR$LN3 YOUR_FILE_NAME.TXT;14  
    
    The same command should work in NOTES, but you won't get it to print
    until you either exit NOTES or add the /NOWAIT qualifier  -->
    
    NOTES>$print/queue=STARR$LN3 YOUR_FILE_NAME.TXT;3/nowait  
    
    If this is too confusing, I can try to talk you through it tomorrow!
    
    --dc/Valmont!

    
    DC --> Thanks for the response!!  Here's the scoop...
    
    After reading your message I typed "PRINT/QUE=STARR$LN3" at the Notes>
    prompt, and it printed IMMEDIATELY - because I had previously added the
    /NOWAIT qualifier!!  A good sign...
    
    BUT... when I exited out of NOTES and typed "$ SHOW LOGICAL SYS$PRINT"
    it came up with TWO printers -> 
    
    "SYS$PRINT" = "STARR$LN3" (LNM$JOB_809B2970)
    "SYS$PRINT" = "MLO" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    
    It's ok tho --> It's working fine the way it is, and I type quickly so 
    don't have a problem entering "PRINT/QUE=STARR$LN3" when I want to
    print something!
    
    Thanks everyone for you patience with me... :-)
    
    --Steph
    

    But Steph, it should still let you just type print and it should go to
    the printer you designate in your login.com.
    
    /red

    
    I'm sorry, I know this probably doesn't belong here, but would someone 
    please tell me how I can easily get to the next note and pick up
    reading where I left off.  I know there's a way to do a NEXT/UNSEEN, but
    for the life of me can't remember how.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    BjM
    

    I'm going to move this to the technical section, but real quick:
    
    To do next Unseen, there's two ways.  Once is to just type Next Unseen,
    I can do  n u   or if you have a WPS keyboard, press the paste key on
    the key pad.  It's on the cluster of keys to the right.  
    
    Paste=Next Unseen
    Cut= Back to previous note you read
    Para=Back up whole subjects of notes (like from note 11 to 10)
    Line=Forward to whole subject of notes (like from note 10 to 11)
    Back up=back up notes (like 10.888 to 10.887).
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Cheryl
    
    
    

    Also, if you want a diagram of the keypad, do this
    
    Notes> help keypad
    
    and it will build you a diagram of the commands.
    
    Cheryl

    HELP!!!!                             
    
    I haven't been in Notes for 2 weeks, but now everytime I read 5 or 6 replies
    the system bumbs me out!  What could the problem be?   Who do I call'
    "Soap Busters"????
    
    Thanks!
    
    Sign,
    
    A new face in the crowd

    Hi "new face in the crowd".  I haven't had any problems reading these
    notes.  I have a feeling it may be something on your systems side but
    I don't really know.  "Soap Busters"...hahahaha....that was a good one.
    
    Sorry I can't help.
    
    Marie

    Is that happening now, or just in the last few days?
    
    Jo

    I'm still having that problem!!! I can read up to 5 notes, then the 
    system boots me out.  This first lines, says: something.... error,
    send SPR or SRP form, (it quickly runs through this). It runs through
    18 - 20 different lines, not in English, then takes me back to the 
    $ prompt.   I hope this information can help.
    
    Thanks,
                   

    I've sent mail to Susan letting her know that the problem has been
    fixed through the WR1FOR system manager.  It was caused by a corrupt
    NOTES$NOTEBOOK file.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAP
    

    
    Tracey --> sorry you lost your buffer when you lost your connection 
    to WLDWST.  If that happens to you again, try doing this -->
    
    Don't go all the way out of notes (if you do, then you will lose
    your buffer) --> go into any other conference and type REPLY/LAST.  
    
    Your note will be posted in another conference that way.  Then you 
    have to type EXTRACT TRACEY.TXT (your note), to VMS.  After you have
    extracted your note --> you must immediately delete the note you 
    posted in the other conference like this --> DELETE 66.8766 (or 
    whatever number it is).
    
    Exit NOTES and do a DIR at the $.  You will see the note you just
    extracted.  Later on, try getting back to the original notes file,
    once you are where you want to post the note, type this --> REPLY 
    TRACEY.TXT.  You will then see your note in your buffer.  
    
    There are several steps involved in using this method --> but, it 
    saves a lot of re-typing!  
    
    Be sure you deleted the note you posted in the other conference!!!!
    
    If anyone knows of a faster and better way to do this --> please
    let us all know!
    
    --dc

    Can someone please tell me what this means:
    
    
    Please set/seen before=22-may-1992:12:00:00
    
    Sorry for my ignorance but I just want to understand so I do what you
    all tell me to do.  That sentence is popping up on my screen.
    
    
    Thanks!!
    
    Kelly

    When we copied the file, all the notes currently in it become unseen
    notes in the new location unless you type that command.  If you don't
    mind wading through all the old notes, you don't need to bother with
    this.  If you don't want to see all those old notes again, then type
    at the notes prompt...
    
    Notes> set seen/before=22-may-1992:12:00:00
    
    
    This tells the system that anything entered before May 22nd at 12:00
    should be considered seen already.  I don't remember the exact time
    we shut down the file.  It might have been later than 12:00 so you
    may still get a couple of old notes but 12:00 seemed like a reasonable
    time to use. 
    
    Jan

	re: .223

	Funny, but I didn't have this problem at all!  I simply did
	a modify entry to the new file, opened it, and was right
	where I left off on Friday!  No need to do a set seen!

	Karen

    I ended up back at the beginning of the file after it finished
    copying so I entered this command for anyone who had the same
    problem.
    
    Jan

    Tracey,
    
    Don't know if you are interested in doing this but I know it will 
    work if you can get to DCL and use an Editor.
    
    The steps you would go through are 
    
    1.  $ Edit may28.txt or $ Edit/tpu may28.txt
    2.  $ notes
    3.  (In notes) open ABC_SOAPS
    4.  go to your particular section  xx.xxxx
    5.  Reply/title = "Update for Thursday"
    6.  (when inside the buffer, press "DO"  (above the mini-keypad)
    7.  At the command prompt, enter
        Include may28.txt  (and press return)
    8.  Congrats!!!!! your update is in!!!
    
    
    To go into an editor (more on number 1), 
    At the $, create a file using the EDT or EVE editor, for example.
    
    $ edit may28.txt  for EDT
    or
    $ edit/tpu may28.txt  for EVE
    
    Then type in your file.  If you system went down at this point you
    have a journal file named 
    
	may28.jou    for the edt editor
        may28.tjl or may28_txt.tpu$journal  for the eve editor
    
    so.....you wouldn't have lost anything.
    
    Let me know if you don't know about the editors or journal files and 
    I will help you with this.
    
	Apologies if you already knew this method.  I get interrupted so
    	many times, that I have to create my note at DCL and then 
    	include it in Notes.
    
    I am FOR SURE that our FUSCHIA!!!!!! loving dc/Valmont's method is
    like THERE, but it never hurts to have a "Lucky Star" Material Girl
    method either.
    
    Dee
    
    

    This really isn't a technical question, but this note is the only one
    that sort of fits my question.
    
    Are Beverly Hills 9020? and Melrose Place considered Night-Time Soaps
    or are they "continuing stories" (for the life of me I can't figure
    what the difference is)?

    
    Don't know either, but it is Bh90210......%^}
    
    

    
    
    Does anyone remember how K2 got her little 2 behind her name?  She sent
    me directions but I can't find them.  I have to use the little 2's on
    something I am typing.
    
    I sure hope someone can help!
    
    
    Jackie

    
    hello everyone...this probably doesn't belong here, but i'm hoping
    someone will help me anyway.  i'm new to notes, and i have a few
    questions...
    
    how can i access/read the archived IOALOT::SOAPS file?
    
    how can i get updates on non-ABC soaps?
    
    what happened to topics 26-29 of this conference?
    
    thanks,
    that lynn girl.
    

    I don't believe there is any way to access IOALOT::SOAPS.  The
    powers that be shut that file down.
    
    Pointers to other soap updates can be found in note 5.0.
    
    Notes 26 through 29 were for programs that were cancelled or topics
    that were no longer being used.  We were having a disk space issue 
    and in the interest of saving disk space those notes were deleted.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS
    

    All the new updaters are doing a wonderful job.  I just want to take
    this oppotunity to remind everyone that when you are doing a "same
    day" update you need to put in a spoiler.  To do that just type
    CONTROL L.  That should work in most cases.
    
    Jan

    
    Hi Lori,
    
    The tv_chatter conference has topics on these 2 shows.  Add
    SNOC02::TV_CHATTER.
    
    ...Rania
    

    
    Hi Lori,
    
    It looks like tv_chatter is having some difficulties.  Don, the
    moderator, explains in note 89.
    
    ...Rania
    

    How do you do a next unseen from a pc keyboard.  I used to do it with
    the right hand number keypad, but now it doesn't work.
    
    Thanks.

    how do you get into the web??
    
    thanks
    

    
    I'm trying to pull the updates from the WEB.  I can see and read 
    them but for some reason, I can't download them to my PC. 
    Can any of you Netscape guru's out there help me figure out 
    what could be causing this to happen?
    
    Thanks
    Monica
    
    I'll see if I can use MOSAIC and access them that way.